#tikiwiki 2009-10-22,Thu

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ikeco	hi all trying to do a fresh install, but keep getting server error 500---any thoughts	[00:02]
luciash	ikeco: try to run sh setup.sh	[00:06]
ikeco	workin on it--thanks!	[00:07]
luciash	if you can't (ftp only access) you have to set your dirs writing perms properly... ah, ok :)	[00:07]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22550 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] tikilib: save going through one extra preg_replace cycle if 'feature_use_quoteplugin'] != 'y'	[00:53]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22551 10/trunk/templates/ (browse_file_gallery.tpl tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl): [FIX] file galleries: JS error because of the onload call adjustThumbnails() from the info icon when #thumbnails not loaded yet + XHTML was not valid (onload attr. can be only on body and frameset)	[01:59]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: File Gallery uploading chinese name file error - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=13&comments_parentId=34979	[02:08]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22552 10/trunk/templates/browse_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] file galleries: XHTML validity fixes (missing alt and s/onClick/onclick/)	[02:12]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22553 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-last_blog_posts.tpl: [FIX] last blog posts module: XHTML - don't display empty ol/ul list with missing li tags when no records to display	[03:48]
chealer	heh. there's room for more than a single commit of that kind	[03:51]
	luciash: wouldn't sectionelse be appropriate there?	[03:56]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22554 10/trunk/templates/ (2 files): tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding	[04:04]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22555 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] "Newletters" -> "Newsletters"	[04:34]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22556 10/trunk/lib/importerlib.php: [FIX] Compilation (r22404 regression) tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22557 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Move wiki page lists to dynamic preferences	[04:46]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22558 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Position:top on cssmenu dropdown was causing all dropdowns to display briefly on page load; replaced with margin-top.	[05:10]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22559 10/trunk/templates/ (5 files): tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding	[05:30]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22560 10/trunk/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] calls to userlink with pre-escaped username tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22561 10/trunk/templates/tiki-user_tasks_view.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding	[05:40]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22563 10/trunk/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php: [SEC] calendar item: hopefully defuck perms checking and personal calendars handling	[07:12]
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marclaporte	LOL	[07:24]
chealer	hi marclaporte I was just looking at tickets for Toronto	[07:32]
marclaporte	anything good?	[07:33]
chealer	I'm ready to buy but need to choose between train (via rail) and plane (probably Porter) marclaporte: the plane ticket increased to at least 150. but that's October 30 marclaporte: arrival at 15:35. the other plane ticket I see is much more expensive (300). maybe I should look at other airways	[07:33]
marclaporte	$150 for plane is excellent from Qc city?	[07:36]
chealer	marclaporte: yes I saw 115 I think a few days ago	[07:36]
marclaporte	what are dates?	[07:37]
chealer	marclaporte: the 115 seems to be sold out. the one at 150 arrives October 30 15:35. that's the only one I'm looking at now, since I didn't consider the one on November 1 for 300$	[07:40]
marclaporte	Oct 30th is perfect, no?	[07:40]
chealer	marclaporte: remember I'm just talking about going to Toronto, since I would come back in car.	[07:40]
marclaporte	ok go for it. We need you in Toronto to be able to release Beta	[07:40]
chealer	marclaporte: I don't know. I thought October 31 or November 1st would be better, but I don't know exactly since I don't really know where I'll stay	[07:42]
marclaporte	don't worry, we'll find place you stay where I stay just bring your laptop and toothbrush :-)	[07:44]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22564 10/trunk/templates/tiki-stats.tpl: [FIX] Heading shouldn't contain entire form; revised heading to be consistent with other heading and easier to translate.	[08:34]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r22566 10/branches/experimental/coe_filegal_manager/ (157 files in 47 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 22513 to 22564	[10:09]
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luciash	chealer: oh yeah, sectionelse sounds nice, somehow didn't remember that... thanks chealer: hmm, but no, i cannot put the ul/ol inside the section chealer: i would need to display the "No records to display" in a li which i think wouldn't look good	[10:34]
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luciash	chealer: i could do it with the table ones though good morning Caarrie	[10:42]
Caarrie	morning	[10:43]
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jonnyb	morning all (just) chibaguy: did you see that IE css thing that i changed for colorbox last night? I just wanted to check that it wasn't just me getting the page locking up in IE	[10:49]
luciash	jonnyb: hello	[10:51]
jonnyb	hi luciash	[10:51]
luciash	i haven't noticed IE css change	[10:52]
jonnyb	last time i had a non-validating <ul></ul> i just did a hacky preg_replace to clean out any empty ones - i couldn't find a more elegant way of doing it i thought you said yuou didn't have access to IE?	[10:52]
luciash	yea, i have actually, but the not-so-quick workarounds way	[10:53]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb (and everyone). I haven't checked with ie yet.	[10:53]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy	[10:54]
luciash	jonnyb: preg_replace sounds hacky, yup	[10:54]
jonnyb	luciash: better than not validating? (discuss!)	[10:54]
luciash	jonnyb: sure it is better than non-validating, but is it faster than if-else ?	[10:55]
jonnyb	chibaguy: i was getting IE7 & 8 freezing on each page load for nearly 10 seconds - i.e. very noticeable. and tracked it down to the last 10 lines of colorbox.css (when feature_shadowbox==y) these are now commented out, so i'd like you to check what happens if you uncomment them luciash: if/else wasn't possible without totally rewriting the whole tpl (and probably the php)	[10:55]
luciash	hi chibaguy jonnyb: i was lucky i did have to do just few changes in the tpl last night ;)	[10:56]
jonnyb	:)	[10:57]
luciash	but as chealer said, there's lot of room to do it with other modules yet some are even still table "lists"	[10:58]
jonnyb	mmmmmm, yum!	[10:58]
	hey chealer - well done for tackling the shoutbox revamp - i was meaning to have a go at that one myself (eventually!) seems to work well	[11:03]
luciash	IE6 seems to cope much better with trunk now	[11:09]
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luciash	chibaguy: i thought you deleted the empty.css ? chibaguy: does theme switch work for you in IE6 as anonymous ?	[11:12]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22567 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: tikiwiki: [FIX] Use new {img} syntax when markup inserted from filegal manager. tikiwiki: Now defaults to using fileId instead of src, thumb=y and rel="box[g]" for colorbox.	[11:15]
chibaguy	luciash, no, I didn't delete it. jonnyb, what was the idea for empty.css? Did you add it?	[11:18]
jonnyb	yes, t'was me - it's so you can check what layout.css (and now design.css) look like on their own - just for us for dev really should be removed before release	[11:19]
luciash	jonnyb: mybe we can keep it if it's useful and make just exception for the dropdown	[11:20]
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jonnyb	could be - but it's off the dropdown that i use it most (like when debugging this colorbox issue) so hide it if not admin, maybe?	[11:21]
luciash	aah, okay :) yup yup	[11:21]
chibaguy	my ie6 is having a hard time opening pages right now :-/	[11:22]
jonnyb	chibaguy: did you see all that stuff about IE locking up? (about 30 mins ago)	[11:22]
chibaguy	no	[11:22]
jonnyb	thought not... chibaguy: i was getting IE7 & 8 freezing on each page load for nearly 10 seconds - i.e. very noticeable. and tracked it down to the last 10 lines of colorbox.css (when feature_shadowbox==y) these are now commented out, so i'd like you to check what happens if you uncomment them	[11:23]
chibaguy	chibaguy just read it ok, as soon as I get my IE's to cooperate.	[11:23]
jonnyb	sorry to inflict that on you :) it was really unusable for me - but i use windows under emulation, so it might have been that	[11:25]
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chibaguy	this is in trunk currently, right/ ?	[11:26]
jonnyb	yy	[11:27]
chibaguy	on pages that use colorbox specifically, or any page?	[11:28]
jonnyb	trunk is now ok for me - you need to uncomment the last lines in colorbox.css to make it bad again any page (strangely)	[11:28]
chibaguy	ah, ok.	[11:28]
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chibaguy	I uncommented the lines and ftp'ed the file to zukakakina.com/tw4/ and there seems to be no problem with IE7. I do get a javascript error on list_file_gallery though. (something separate)	[11:35]
jonnyb	oh? ok, i'll try on mine	[11:37]
chibaguy	the install I'm trying on isn't totally up-to-date, though. not sure what revision it is.	[11:38]
luciash	chibaguy: i just fixed it in trunk tonight, are u svn up ?	[11:39]
chibaguy	ie7 doesn't seem to want to load my localhost install.	[11:39]
jonnyb	ok - i just updated mine yesterday, but it was the same with IE7 service pack 3?	[11:39]
chibaguy	yes I mean I'm not sure what revision of tiki trunk I'm trying IE7 with. It's several days old anyway.	[11:39]
jonnyb	it's something to do with the alphaloader filter, so maybe i've got something nasty in my system... it has all the m$ dev stuff on (visual muppet, as we used to call it) oh, ok	[11:40]
luciash	ah, ok, then you just have to ignore the error ;) jonnyb: i can try with my wife's laptop IE7	[11:41]
jonnyb	thx chibaguy: where are the colorbox pics?	[11:42]
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chibaguy	at that site, http://zukakakina.com/tw4/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1	[11:43]
jonnyb	ta (should have guessed - more coffee!)	[11:44]
chibaguy	I'm updating the site now but it'll take a while to complete. should be more or less usable anyway.	[11:44]
jonnyb	it doesn't seem to be locking up like my one was... (strange)	[11:46]
chibaguy	maybe could be the revision? (not current yet)	[11:46]
luciash	jonnyb: i am going to uncomment it on mine	[11:47]
chibaguy	ah, I was testing while logged in. Now, logged out, I get a white page.	[11:47]
jonnyb	ik	[11:48]
chibaguy	Could also be due to file inconsistencies while updated, I imagine. while updating	[11:48]
luciash	jonnyb: the last one comment only ?	[11:48]
jonnyb	it's about 7 or 8 lines of MS specific filter alpha loader stuff	[11:49]
chibaguy	hmm, in ie7, i can get tiki-login ok, but tiki-index is white. well, I'll stop trying, until the site is updated.	[11:49]
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jonnyb	it'll need a db update too that's probly the wsod	[11:51]
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luciash	jonnyb: maybe i know why, read the !!! Important note there	[11:52]
jonnyb	hmm? in colobox.css (thought i'd read it - will re-read)	[11:53]
luciash	jonnyb: yes, the AlphaImageLoader paths	[11:54]
jonnyb	:P	[11:54]
luciash	jonnyb: anyway, doesn't seem to freeze here jonnyb: try on my test.ground	[11:54]
jonnyb	weird - i must have been tired when doing that - totally misread it :D	[11:55]
chibaguy	It's kind of cool how superfish menus wrap if they're too wide for the page. With menu 42, I have 3 rows of items and no scrollbar. ;-) Not the greatest visually, but everything's there. :-)	[11:55]
luciash	oh, f**k, i am so used to firefox taht i tested in FF on Vista instead of IE7 :-p i have IE8 here now it seems looks good, no freezes jonnyb: can you try on my test.ground ? jonnyb: you need some colorbox images there ?	[11:57]
jonnyb	did you fix the urls?	[11:59]
luciash	no, i just uncommented	[11:59]
jonnyb	i'm going to try with the corrected urls (adding lib/jquery/colorbox/styles/ before images on each) but am battling... gimme a minute...	[12:00]
luciash	fine anyway, YSLOW will not be happy i bet about using AlphaImageLoader i will add some colorboxes in the meanwhile	[12:00]
jonnyb	yup - confirmed on my localhost - it's the urls being incorrect (thank goodness someone here can read English!)	[12:01]
luciash	:D :D	[12:02]
chibaguy	Some strangeess with calendar events in ie7 - on a calendar month page, one event is outlined ok, but the second is 1151px tall. the box goes way down the page.	[12:02]
jonnyb	will rollback r22535 and do it properly maybe it's enhanced for me somehow cos it's on localhost - or something...	[12:02]
chibaguy	element.style {height: 1151px}	[12:02]
luciash	strangees and sprongees typo ?	[12:02]
chibaguy	yep. strangeness, I meant. :-)	[12:04]
luciash	i mean the 1151 can be a typo	[12:06]
chibaguy	:-)	[12:06]
luciash	jonnyb: does it freeze for you ?	[12:06]
jonnyb	hold on...	[12:08]
luciash	jonnyb: it doesn't freeze for me but the colorbox graphics are definitely missing because of the paths in IE8	[12:09]
jonnyb	no, seems ok	[12:09]
luciash	so we are on the good way ;)	[12:09]
jonnyb	i get the top left corner only!	[12:09]
luciash	yes, same here	[12:09]
jonnyb	wtf?	[12:09]
luciash	i haven't fixed the paths nor did svn up, isn't that why ? i didn't svn up in last 20 minutes i mean ;)	[12:09]
jonnyb	i guess - i'm fixing (please hold...)	[12:10]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22568 10/trunk/lib/setup/js_detect.php: [FIX] Rollback of 22536 (thanks Luci for finding correct fix) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22569 10/third_party/jquery/ (colorbox/styles/colorbox.css jquery-tiki-readme.txt): [FIX] Rollback of 22535 (thanks Luci for finding correct fix)	[12:13]
jonnyb	phew - ok, IE good now	[12:18]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22570 10/third_party/jquery/ (colorbox/styles/colorbox.css jquery-tiki-readme.txt): tikiwiki: [FIX] Add correct path for colobox border images to URLs in colorbox.css tikiwiki: (Thanks to luci for pointing out the !!Important Note just above them... :)	[12:19]
luciash	:)	[12:19]
	ok, now my IE8 is frozen :-p don't worry, it must be just bad weather or something ;)	[12:25]
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jonnyb	děkuji ti luciash ok, want the next one? :)	[12:26]
luciash	ok, reloaded and it behaves nicely again hehe, neni zač, jonnyb :) what is the next one ?	[12:28]
jonnyb	ok, you got an image: {img fileId="1" thumb="y" link="display1" rel="box[g]"} and all is well then add a description to it, thus: {img fileId="1" thumb="y" link="display1" rel="box[g]" desc="nice picture"} and when you click on it colorbox gets a JS error (url undefined) if you take the thumb=y bit out, it's ok again... nasty	[12:30]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22571 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/mittwoch/styles/mittwoch.css: [FIX] Position:top on cssmenu dropdown was causing all dropdowns to display briefly on page load; replaced with margin-top. Better Supersubs.js compatibility.	[12:31]
jonnyb	jonnyb loves the noise important people make when they log in now	[12:32]
Caarrie	Caarrie mutes the speakers on jonnyb's mac	[12:32]
luciash	haha	[12:32]
marclaporte	:-)	[12:33]
luciash	jonnyb: why is there link="display1" it already makes the link automagically if you use fileId and thumb	[12:34]
jonnyb	ah, didn't spot that... does it make the bug stop?	[12:34]
luciash	no idea, i just wondered :) i am not that fast ;)	[12:35]
jonnyb	(nope)	[12:35]
luciash	it must be bug in img plugin	[12:35]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22572 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.userlink.php: [FIX] Remove more dead overlib code	[12:36]
luciash	jonnyb: works for me	[12:37]
jonnyb	no JS error?	[12:37]
luciash	no JS error	[12:37]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22573 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/mittwoch/styles/mittwoch/ie7.css: [NEW] CSS rules for Mittwoch theme for Tiki.	[12:38]
jonnyb	odd - the one with Foooooo as a desc?	[12:38]
luciash	yes	[12:38]
jonnyb	in safari i get: "jquery.colorbox-min.js:2 TypeError: Result of expression 'Z' [undefined] is not an object."	[12:39]
luciash	{img fileId="1" thumb="y" rel="box" desc="Foooooo"}	[12:39]
marclaporte	marclaporte requests a moment of silence for OverLIB code	[12:39]
jonnyb	and in firefox is get... (odd - no colorbox..?)	[12:39]
luciash	marclaporte: how long should the moment be ?	[12:40]
jonnyb	jonnyb throws hat in the air and looks for more overlib errors to jump up and down on	[12:40]
marclaporte	marclaporte remembers a young OverLIB, bouncing around, giving life to dull web pages...	[12:40]
luciash	:D RIP OverLIB jonnyb: maybe because i have no [g] there ? {img fileId="1" thumb="y" rel="box" desc="Foooooo"}	[12:40]
jonnyb	no, i think it's the new session/missing icons thing	[12:41]
luciash	huh ?	[12:41]
jonnyb	ok (refreshed page eventually) - i get the same error in firefox are you looking at your error console? (or is this ok in Opera?)	[12:41]
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luciash	yeah, no JS errors refreshed the Tests page several times you get it there ? on t.g.cz ?	[12:43]
jonnyb	most odd	[12:44]
luciash	ah, just after clicking on the thumbnail i get something but some other error i guess	[12:45]
jonnyb	on http://test.ground.cz/tiki/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Tests yes, that error no problem with the 3 images below it (no description) and it's not really a bug in the img plugin (the html looks fine)	[12:45]
luciash	message: Statement on line 2: Cannot convert undefined or null to Object i though the error appears on page load, sorry	[12:46]
jonnyb	i tihnk it's something to do with all that (your ;) ) code doing the shadowbox thing in tiki-jquery.js (but after an hour or two of debugging yesterday i gave up)	[12:47]
luciash	*thought	[12:47]
jonnyb	no no, on click	[12:47]
luciash	it must be something with the img plugin	[12:48]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22574 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/underground/styles/underground.css: [FIX] Position:top on cssmenu dropdown was causing all dropdowns to display briefly on page load; replaced with margin-top.	[12:48]
luciash	it doesn't happen with the other images which have desc too but not thumb=1 and not fileId it must generate some onclick oddity	[12:48]
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jonnyb	indeed not nice, sorry but i think it must be to do with the shadowbox emulation stuff - it doesn't happen on the demos (as far as i can see - but then, they don't use filegals) ok, next: newsletters	[12:52]
luciash	jonnyb: I get "aa is undefined" in FF which points me to jquery.colorbox-min.js	[12:53]
jonnyb	yup - if you use non-minified js you get a slightly nicer error message somehow the settings object for that image gets reset to the default, and the url is empty (or false i think)	[12:54]
luciash	luciash inspecting the element	[12:55]
jonnyb	anyway, marclaporte - newsletters. still has overlib code in, and the switch to wysiwyg seems broken - is that the case?	[12:55]
marclaporte	no idea about WYSIWYG	[12:59]
jonnyb	the "switch" button does nothing so i'm converting to the new textarea to see what happens	[12:59]
luciash	jonnyb: seems only difference is that it creates divs instead of table for the desc and that the erroring one has 3 times unnecessarily title set	[13:00]
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luciash	jonnyb: i will check the img plugin	[13:01]
jonnyb	true luciash - but colorbox will only look at what it's told to - e.g. the <a> wrapping the <img>, no?	[13:01]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22575 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] {img} doesn't need link set for filegal files	[13:26]
luciash	where is use minified scripts ? Admin → ? luciash realizes he can use "Configuration search" waiting grmbl... still waiting that search isn't much helpful ;) goes to give a shot of Admin → Features	[13:37]
jonnyb	admin/features/programmer	[13:40]
luciash	hrmpf, did it kill my apache ? tnx jonny	[13:41]
jonnyb	the admin search needs to tell us where the thing was found, otherwise we never learn also needs to be 10x faster (one day) jonnyb feeding - bbl	[13:41]
luciash	hihi	[13:43]
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luciash	jonnyb: weird, i can't see it there	[13:50]
marclaporte	when I edit a wiki page, there is <label for="comment">Edit Comment: <a title="Edit comment: Enter some text to describe the changes you are currently making" but I don't see anything when I mouseover is it just me?	[13:50]
luciash	hi marclaporte	[13:51]
sai_kiran	Hi Everyone	[13:53]
sylvieg	how guys do you do to overload shadowbox css ... it is loaded after the site style	[13:53]
luciash	marclaporte: it is here, just a bit slow before it appears sylvieg: !important or jQuery marclaporte: hover the icon	[13:54]
chibaguy	I guess a file like strasa/option/cool/ie.7.css won't work.	[13:55]
luciash	sai_kiran: hi	[13:55]
chibaguy	I mean ie7.css	[13:55]
luciash	chibaguy: won't work for wha ?	[13:56]
chibaguy	I mean the file isn't used.	[13:56]
luciash	oh	[13:56]
sai_kiran	i have just integrated LDAP authentication with AD for tiki. I have also enabled auto user creation. however when a user is created his mail attibute is not picked from teh LDAP attributes	[13:56]
chibaguy	apparently theme options can't have ie7.css, etc. files, as things are now.	[13:56]
sai_kiran	am i missing something?	[13:56]
chibaguy	sorry, sai_kiran, that wasn't meant as a reply to your problem.	[13:58]
sai_kiran	Chibaguy: no prob.. i understand	[13:58]
luciash	marclaporte: i wonder why it is so slow marclaporte: the cluetip	[13:59]
chibaguy	sai_kiran, there's an LDAP forum at tikiwiki.org, if nobody here can help.	[14:01]
luciash	marclaporte: i wonder if anybody uses the powered by buttons nowadays still :-p	[14:02]
marclaporte	hehe	[14:02]
luciash	luciash just enabled it and it looks ridiculous :-p	[14:02]
marclaporte	we need something very clean and sublte, which gives a backlink to tikiwiki.org	[14:02]
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luciash	back to 90'	[14:03]
marclaporte	yes how about replacing by the small buttons?	[14:03]
luciash	we have subtle link after Powered by: already	[14:03]
jonnyb	back	[14:03]
sai_kiran	chibaguy: thanks for the tip.. will wait for a while before i hit the other forumn	[14:03]
luciash	what about killing it completely ? ;)	[14:03]
marclaporte	hahahaha ok, here is a thought	[14:04]
luciash	people can put "powered by" buttons in custom code in footer anyway if they want support some project	[14:05]
marclaporte	I would like an optional zone where people make publicity for Tiki: if they want to help. inspiration: http://tikiwiki.org/Viral+TikiWiki	[14:05]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - re overriding colorbox.css - hmmmmm	[14:05]
marclaporte	we could distribute these "ads" via profiles	[14:05]
luciash	yea, just put it in the custom code textarea ;)	[14:05]
marclaporte	ex.: link to all Tiki Networks (http://tikiwiki.org/Networks) hehe, yes, so customizable now :-) except that we can't append in preferences, we can just replace so if someone uses for something, and then, they apply the profile, it erases what they had	[14:06]
luciash	yup, it would work only for fresh installs but people usually copy and paste widgets/buttons with no problem if they want so is it necessary to make profiles for that ?	[14:08]
marclaporte	we'll want to update links every once in a while luciash: if others agree, I don't object to killing this zone and using generic zones instead did you ask Gary?	[14:11]
luciash	nope but he's here	[14:13]
chibaguy	I was also thinking about those logos recently. And how I never see any site with them being used. I have no problem with them getting dropped.	[14:14]
luciash	marclaporte: btw, check open.ground, do we want something like that using trackers and colorbox ?	[14:20]
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luciash	(the red thingy)	[14:22]
marclaporte	I see mouse-over help in Firefox, Opera, IE, Safari but not Chrome too bad for Chrome :-) the red thingy: where do you have in mind? for trackerlist reports?	[14:24]
luciash	for anything, using Pretty Trackers... for making Appointments, giving Feedback (it's also poular on websites like that, but black... seen with Get Satisfaction, etc.), maybe for Contact Us, Register, etc.	[14:28]
marclaporte	reminds me of pop-over admin panel with quicklinks perhaps there could be a free zone of text in Site Identity for people to configure this? Ex.: "New to this site" or "first time visitor"	[14:29]
	luciash: please see bottom right of http://www.impresscms.org/	[14:35]
jonnyb	bye all - back in a few hours	[14:35]
marclaporte	later	[14:36]
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chibaguy	marclaporte, the impresscms powered-by images are better because they're smaller, but still they don't seem necessary these days, imho.	[14:45]
luciash	chibaguy: bottom right ;)	[14:45]
chibaguy	The social networking links, otoh, are probably a good idea.	[14:45]
luciash	chibaguy: btw, have you tried blip.fm ?	[14:46]
chibaguy	no luciash, not yet.	[14:46]
luciash	ok, just thought if i can add you to my favorite DJs ;)	[14:47]
chibaguy	I'll check soon.	[14:49]
marclaporte	ideally, we would have a zone of willing Tiki sites, which we can update (like a remote control) Like a RSS like we have on info.tikiwiki.org (the RSS with stats from SourceForge)	[14:50]
chibaguy	as long as it's small and discreet, I think.	[14:56]
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chibaguy	that is, if it's kind of low-key, it will be more acceptable on more sites. if it could be done in a side-column module, that'd simplify the implimentation. if it's a special page-bottom zone ('messages from the mother ship'), that could be done but would need to be worked into themes, etc.	[15:13]
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chibaguy	Something we want to be careful about is interfering with the identity of the site. If it isn't a Tiki project site, then peol people expect social networking links to be related to that site, not to the software that runs it.	[15:18]
luciash	my thoughts are maybe people will not be open too much to have auto-updated stuff on their site which they cannot control but mam wrong... it happens with Ads and various widgets today anyway s/mam/maybe i am/	[15:19]
chibaguy	the labelling would have to be clear, if it's Tiki promotion, like "This web site is powered by Tiki" and then the links to twitter or whatever under that.	[15:21]
luciash	i just think if its worth of implementing it in tiki when it can be just piece of code we can ave on a wiki page somewhere and people can just copy and paste s/ave/have/ (caesar)	[15:21]
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luciash	my writing skills get worse and worse on this laptop keyboard ;) luciash have to buy extra full size usb keyboard :-p	[15:23]
chibaguy	Yes, we could be using the links, etc., on the Tiki sites and then a link or other easy way to copy the code for people to use, so would take care of two jobs at once. I think we're probably lucky to have the little "powered by Tiki" text at the bottom of users' sites, and shouldn't push it with additional links, etc.	[15:27]
luciash	my thoughts	[15:34]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22578 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] Moving new features to distinct tab, so people can easily find and are eager to try out, while maintaining warning	[15:44]
chealer	polom luciash: you're not working on your laptop's keyboard at home?	[15:48]
marclaporte	polom chealer: how many more modules?	[15:49]
chealer	marclaporte: 9 with PHP code, but still the biggest ones. 1185 LOC of original ~3700	[15:50]
luciash	chealer: polom, damn i am :-p	[15:51]
chealer	luciash: is your laptop your main PC?	[15:51]
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luciash	nope :)	[15:51]
marclaporte	how many without PHP?	[15:51]
luciash	well, depends on what i am working on chealer: any idea what is AND 1 = 1 in SQL query ? gives error with pgsql will 1 = TRUE help ?	[15:52]
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chealer	luciash: ah. still, I bought a USB keyboard and a 19" screen (now 22"), before I did my first shoulder tendinitis, and I'm very happy I did. I also got a 2-channel KVM for sound, keyboard and mouse. those are even cheaper these days luciash: AND 1 =1 is a bit strange, but sounds like the common WHERE 1=1 [AND ...], which means WHERE TRUE (condition-building hack) luciash: no, no idea why it would give an error (without seeing the error message, anyway :) ) luciash: now, no idea why it would give an error (without seeing the error message, anyway :) )	[15:53]
luciash	ok, it is like ERROR: function find_in_set(unknown, text) does not exist LINE 16: AND 1 = 1 AND ( FIND_IN_SET('critical', bits.flags) > 0 ... /home/luci/Development/trunk on pgsql/lib/multilingual/multilinguallib.php : 518 -> query(array ( ))	[15:56]
chealer	marclaporte: apparently 14	[15:57]
marclaporte	so 20 in all!	[15:57]
chealer	luciash: oh, that's a SET issue (I mentioned that one in my report)	[15:57]
luciash	aye right, changing 1 = 1 to TRUE doesn't help HINT: No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need to add explicit type casts. seems complicated i will try to swicth multilingual off	[15:58]
chealer	luciash: as I wrote, this one takes a litttle time to solve, but it shouldn't be difficult. SET is a type designed to carry several flags, but bits.flags is only used for storing a single flag. so we could change the field to a boolean and adapt multilinguallib in a few places luciash: that's what I did, yes luciash: the nice part of this is that this SET field was not released in a stable version yet, so we could change it with little care :)	[16:00]
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chealer	marclaporte: yeah. some very long, some that should be very short	[16:02]
marclaporte	do short ones first :-)	[16:02]
chealer	can't I keep the candy for the end? :)	[16:04]
luciash	hahah candy is amrc praising you ! grmbl *marc marclaporte: i get notice Undefined index: feature_wiki_screencasts lib/setup/perms.php line 25	[16:05]
marclaporte	chealer: sure! the more are done, the more we can test	[16:09]
chealer	:)	[16:11]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22579 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [MOD] More plain English labels for tool help.	[16:12]
chealer	luciash: about sectionelse... true. we could use .first and .last, but then the're very little difference between both approaches	[16:12]
luciash	chealer: what is .first and .last ?	[16:13]
chealer	luciash: section properties: http://smarty.net/manual/en/language.function.section.php#section.property.show well that's not the right anchor	[16:15]
luciash	marclaporte: where should i add it so the feature_check is happy ? chealer: ok	[16:16]
chibaguy	hey, colorbox is resizing vertically now after latest svnup	[16:17]
chealer	luciash: that said, your fix moves the annoyance from HTML to Smarty: "Undefined offset: 0" :)	[16:17]
luciash	chibaguy: is it bad or good ? chealer: heh, oops, sorry, have to enable smarty error reporting it seems :-p	[16:17]
chibaguy	that's good. before, it was always one height no matter how tall the image it contained, for several weeks anyway. originally, it resized to shrinkwrap the image, but then lost that for a while.	[16:18]
luciash	chibaguy: i am not sure it is good for small images like icons	[16:19]
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luciash	chibaguy: the title will not be visible	[16:19]
chibaguy	I think a minimum size would be good, probably. I didn't test yet, but small images have had a colorbox too narrow to contain the nav icons properly. maybe 200px wide or so.	[16:19]
luciash	chealer: i don't get how the .first and .last would help me, sorry	[16:20]
marclaporte	luciash: I don't know but I sent LP a bug report about screencast. lib/prefs/feature.php looks ok	[16:21]
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luciash	chibaguy: i don't know how... there is no minWidth and minHeight for ColorBoc marclaporte: tks	[16:21]
chibaguy	yeah, I guess it's not meant for icons and avatars, etc.	[16:22]
chealer	luciash: let me do last_files as an example	[16:22]
luciash	sure, you can fix the last blogs even ;) blog posts chibaguy: why ? you could have gallery of icons, nope ?	[16:23]
chibaguy	no, just for testing, but thought it would be good in case some site did have small images.	[16:24]
luciash	chibaguy: so maybe i prefered the same size for all images in gallery and only resize down if larger than viewport i mean same size for the white colorbox area anyway, that was just my preference	[16:24]
chibaguy	you're very organized ;-)	[16:26]
luciash	chealer: is there any module which could work with pgsql or no one ?	[16:26]
chibaguy	anyway, time to sleep here. g'night.	[16:27]
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luciash	good night gary chealer: ah, online users works	[16:27]
chealer	luciash: I did not test any module with pgsql for fun, but I got the application menu to work. menus should work with ADOdb. I see no reason for other modules to work less than a random feature.	[16:28]
luciash	the problem is i have PDO here and don't know how to switch to AdoDB chibaguy: i don't know how... there is no minWidth and minHeight for ColorBoc. menu grmbl, that keyboard sucks :-p so far i have seen the Resouce Id problem only with app menu even the admin menu module seems to work	[16:28]
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chealer	luciash: it's very simple	[16:33]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22580 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-last_files.tpl: [FIX] HTML validation on "No records to display"	[16:33]
luciash	marclaporte: can we switch from mnu_application_menu to custom module with cssmenu for barebones ? (so it would work with pgsql too) chealer: for dev or for common tiki admin ?	[16:34]
chealer	luciash: developer. luciash: quick MySQL/PgSQL switch: http://paste.debian.net/49720/	[16:35]
luciash	but we need it for admins too thanks	[16:36]
chealer	luciash: well, I think we want to simply get rid of ADOdb	[16:36]
luciash	well, then there's no point if the menu works with ADOdb	[16:37]
chealer	luciash: I think it's useless to work on PgSQL/PDO until we resolve the PDO BYTEA issue luciash: indeed luciash: see r22580 regarding .first and .last	[16:37]
luciash	cool chealer: oh yeah, now i get it, thanks	[16:38]
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nelek	hello can i download an irc announce bot somewhere for tikiwiki?	[16:44]
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Caarrie	nelek: to announce what?	[16:46]
nelek	wiki changes	[16:46]
Caarrie	you can use the rss feeds and any irc bot that can read the feed	[16:46]
marclaporte	mnu_application_menu is menu 42?	[16:46]
nelek	you have this kind of bot that when you change something on your wiki it posts it in the channel right?	[16:46]
Caarrie	my bot is an eggdrop with an rss reader script	[16:47]
nelek	aha	[16:47]
Caarrie	nothing special for tikiwiki	[16:47]
nelek	any url i can use to catch all wiki changes?	[16:47]
luciash	marclaporte: yes, menu 42	[16:47]
Caarrie	the rss feeds for tw	[16:48]
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nelek	uhm?	[16:50]
Caarrie	the rss feeds for wiki show all edits as far as i know	[16:52]
nelek	ok	[16:54]
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nelek	hm where can i find the rss url for the wiki caarrie	[17:34]
Caarrie	you need to enable it in admin first	[17:34]
nelek	under rss modules?	[17:38]
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chealer	nelek: no, under RSS Feeds (Admin panel)	[17:59]
nelek	ok thanks i enabled it is it possible to have the feed but hide the link on the bottom?	[18:02]
chealer	nelek: yes (see admin look)	[18:07]
nelek	uhm where? sorry i'm a bit slow today :s i just want the articles but not the wiki to show up at the bottom	[18:10]
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nelek	who's running tikiwiki\|bot? is it running on eggdrop with rss-synd.tcl?	[18:30]
Caarrie	i run it and it does not use that script	[18:31]
nelek	which one are you using?	[18:32]
Caarrie	ftp://ftp.kvirc.de/pub/kvirc/tools/kvircrss-2.1.tcl.bz2	[18:32]
nelek	ok so its not on eggdrop	[18:32]
Caarrie	no it is an eggdrop	[18:32]
nelek	ah ok caarrie it seems that kvircrss is an earlier version of rss-synd	[18:33]
Caarrie	well it works for what i use it for	[18:34]
nelek	did you have to do something special to get the urls to display? i setup mine but the urls dont show. works fine with with other rss feeds though	[18:34]
Caarrie	i loaded it like any other rss feed, not sure if tw.org is setup differently for feeds or something	[18:35]
nelek	would you be so kind to pastebin me the config of one of the items so i can compare it with my configuration?	[18:36]
Caarrie	give me a few minutes	[18:36]
	set rss(tikiwikibugs) { "url" "http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-tracker_r$ "channels" "#tikiwiki" "database" "./scripts/tikiwiki2.db" "output" " 002Recent Bug:002 @@item!title@@ - $ "output-order" 0 "trigger" "!bugs" "update-interval" 10 } opps just a sec e@@ - @@item!link@@@@entry!link!=href@@"	[18:41]
nelek	uhm iprobeer ik ff samen te plakken	[18:42]
Caarrie	?	[18:46]
nelek	i tried to glue that together "output" " 002Recent Bug:002 @@item!title@@ - @@item!link@@@@entry!link!=href@@" that works :)	[18:48]
Caarrie	great	[18:48]
nelek	i now have an ubercool news announcer in my chan for my site :o)	[18:48]
Caarrie	so it outputs something like [Wed 10:18:38 pm] <Tikiwiki\|bot> New Forum Posts: Problem actualitzant TikiWiki a 3.2 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=16&comments_parentId=349	[18:49]
nelek	yes	[18:50]
Caarrie	great	[18:50]
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miki_tnt	hi all i have just installed tikiwiki and I have some questions is there any posibilities to have a theme for each group?	[19:02]
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miki_tnt	and to have a language for each group? So if you login with user 1, who belongs to group 1, you have a theme and a language and if you login with user2 you have another theme and another language	[19:05]
chealer	miki_tnt: you can have a theme for each group. see Admin Groups	[19:07]
miki_tnt	let's take a look and a language?	[19:08]
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miki_tnt	is possible to assign a language for each group?	[19:19]
luciash	miki_tnt: you can have homepage for each group and if you set it to specific language maybe that is what you want	[19:23]
miki_tnt	i think I don't understand the language feature	[19:24]
luciash	each wiki page can have set its own language and you can choose to switch the whole site language to be the same as the current wiki page lang	[19:25]
miki_tnt	i mean, can I change the langage menu on the left depending on the group?	[19:25]
luciash	you need to enable multilingual feature for that or you can set for each group as homepage: tiki-switch_lang.php?language=<group_lang_here> iirc	[19:25]
miki_tnt	yes, i have set a page for each group but, can the menus change of language depending on the group?	[19:31]
luciash	the mnu_application_menu should be translated if you change the language... if you mean some custom menu, you have to add your strings to be translated or you can assign a modules with your own menu translated version for each group	[19:33]
miki_tnt	yes, when i change of language the menu language change. I just wanted a langunage menu for each group ? so, the only way is using modules	[19:36]
luciash	create custom modules at Admin > Modules... e.g. french_menu, spanish_menu and assign to groups e.g. French group, Spanish group in the custom modules you can have {menu id=44}... in the other one {menu id=45}, etc. the menus you create on Admin > Menus there are also multilingual wiki structures, but it is more complicated i guess	[19:37]
miki_tnt	umm, thank you. it seems difficult. I am trying right now	[19:43]
	and which id number should I use? i don't understand this pretty much when you create a new module and locate it to the left for example, teh module is empty	[19:48]
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chealer	miki_tnt: you need to put content in that module, for example {menu id=44} to insert the menu with identifier 44 miki_tnt: the id is the one of the menu you created	[19:59]
miki_tnt	but it is empty isn't it? how can i put content?	[20:00]
chealer	miki_tnt: as I wrote, you need to put content in the module, for example "{menu id=44}" to insert the menu with identifier 44 miki_tnt: if you use an identifier which corresponds to no menu, I wouldn't be surprised if the effect would be that the module is empty	[20:01]
miki_tnt	yes, sorry but I dont get you :-s firts I have created a module, I have located it on the left, this module has id= 45 now as you said I need to add content to this module where can I do this? (sorry for my missunderstanding)	[20:02]
chealer	miki_tnt: the module id doesn't matter. what matter is the identifier of the menu which you'll put in a module. miki_tnt: you'd better start creating the menu	[20:04]
miki_tnt	ahmm, firts the menu id = 44 but I have only set the name of the menu now the module with data {menu id=44} i feel a little dummy :-s where should I add the content? in the menu section?	[20:04]
chealer	miki_tnt: yes. you don't choose the menu id, it is assigned automatically, you have to look at what you get	[20:08]
miki_tnt	ok	[20:09]
chealer	miki_tnt: yes. the module simply includes the menu	[20:09]
miki_tnt	thank you. let's see yes I see! thank you to chealer and luciash buff sorry , i were really slow thank you very much	[20:09]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22582 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: upcoming_events(): also return parsed field for parsed description	[20:14]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22584 10/trunk/lib/ (tiki-js.js toolbars/toolbarslib.php): tikiwiki: [FIX] Use the tiki-js.js "version" of getElementById() to find textareas, because sometimes the areaname is the name, and other times it's the id. tikiwiki: Fixed dialog tool unplesantness in tracker plugins. tikiwiki: TODO properly for 5.0.	[20:36]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22585 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to search admin template	[20:38]
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chealer	hey jonnyb	[20:42]
jonnyb	hi chealer tiki's a funny place! areaname can sometimes be an id, so you use a function called getElementById, which gets elements by name! :D	[20:44]
chealer	jonnyb: share!	[20:45]
jonnyb	each time you think you're "getting somewhere" with a new version you reveal another layer of horror!	[20:46]
chealer	hum, I had probably forgotten about that	[20:46]
jonnyb	Ah well, sometime to sort out for 5.0	[20:46]
chealer	sylvieg: I see issues on French tiki-admin_newsletters.php	[20:47]
jonnyb	i was looking at newsletters - broke it immediately :(	[20:48]
chealer	sylvieg: Lettres d'informations in tab names displays as "'Lettres d'informations". not at the top but in the page. extra slashes. did you notice that issue? it's in other places too jonnyb: you'll be at TikiFestToronto4?	[20:48]
jonnyb	no sorry - just the montreal one i'll join in here though (& skype etc)	[20:49]
chealer	oh, sorry. I'll probably see you there then sylvieg: extra backslashes, that is	[20:50]
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sylvieg	chealer .. a very interesting bug	[21:10]
chealer	sylvieg: myeah... name is passed to tab with some escaping (the slashes). clearly a Smarty syntax issue sylvieg: I'm under the impression that Smarty's syntax lacks a formal definition. it's not clear what a tag inside another one does	[21:11]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22586 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix toolbar pickers when more than one toolbar per page and reduce data duplication tikiwiki: Optimised colour data and fixed one missing getElementById (wiki link)	[21:16]
sylvieg	{tab name="{tr}Newsletters{/tr}"} is working .. does it mean we need to change all the '' in {tab	[21:19]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22587 10/trunk/lib/wiki/ (renderlib.php wikilib.php): tikiwiki: [FIX] Stop the same author being listed multiple times on wiki pages. tikiwiki: Made it optional as it's unclear to me whether the versions data is used elsewhere.	[21:21]
sylvieg	perhaps we should ask to #smarty	[21:23]
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chealer	sylvieg: yeah	[21:38]
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sylvieg	I tried a str_replace('\'', "'", $value) in block.tabset - but it still puts the first '	[21:39]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22588 10/trunk/lib/setup/editmode.php: [FIX] Missing globals	[21:39]
sylvieg	we have about 20 {tab name='{tr .. we can chage them perhaps jonyb - what is your problem with send newsletter? sorry jonnyb the bouton switch wysiwyg - do not work anymore :-(	[21:40]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - i decided i should fix it myself really - you're porbably busy ;) just committing fix for that, as it happens - hold on...	[21:41]
sylvieg	was working in 21911 - at least the last time I checkes thx jonnyb	[21:42]
jonnyb	strange - (well, don;t think it was me ;) ) the one i had on newsletters admin was if you add a new one with a user selected _and_ all users checked it blows up	[21:42]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22589 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Switch editor modes. Deployed {textarea} Smarty object. tikiwiki: Needs more - part 2 tomorrow (confirm exit dialogs etc)	[21:44]
jonnyb	anyway - i gottago for a while - bbl (or tomorrow)	[21:44]
sylvieg	thx jonnyb the switch editor buttom works again	[21:50]
jonnyb	:)	[21:51]
sylvieg	chealer: http://pastebin.com/m2632bc4c (but jonnyb I was sure it was working last time I testes - I just backported the wyswyg feature this morning in a tiki3 - and it was working chealer: I propose we change the {tab name='{tr into {tab name="{tr	[21:53]
chealer	sylvieg: well, if it works, I have no problems with it	[21:55]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22590 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletters.tpl: to prove chealer it is ok	[22:05]
sylvieg	just for you chealer :-) sending an email on devel	[22:05]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22591 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: upcoming_events(): pseudo-document and add new $maxDaysStart argument to filter on the number of days to an event's start date	[22:09]
sylvieg	btw jonnyb is verynice .. because html newsletters is very picky - the html must be more than 'clean' I committed that because it was working pretty well on a site... I do not know if we are lucky - or if the html produces by fck is 'clean;	[22:10]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22592 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping tikiwiki: [MOD] do not escape module parameter descriptions, to allow inserting HTML there. I hope nothing had to be escaped. tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks	[22:12]
chealer	sylvieg: thanks, that works...for this specific string. I have no doubt double quotes solve some issues, I just see nothing which tells me it doesn't create more, perhaps with other characters (if we're considering doing this change everywhere)	[22:14]
sylvieg	in the language file everything with " must be escape it is why the get_string does ""=>"" and not ''=>'' even if it slower it was a choice a long time ago...	[22:17]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22593 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding tikiwiki: [FIX] rename "RSS modules" to "External feeds"	[22:31]
marclaporte	chealer: : RSS modules was an ugly name!!!!	[22:42]
sylvieg	+1 for chealwer	[22:44]
marclaporte	chealer is a cleaner	[22:49]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22594 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]watch: send also a notif if attach file on a watch wiki page	[23:11]
sylvieg	s/l/n/; s/h/l/; ;-)	[23:11]
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luciash	sylvieg: ? i thought someone recently commited something that should "allow single quotes in translation strings" or something like that, so i wonder...	[23:30]
	but fine that there is a workaround at least :)	[23:37]
chealer	hehehe :) luciash: meaning in the "source"/ English string?	[23:43]
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luciash	chealer: yup	[23:54]
chealer	luciash: OK. possible, but the tab problem is with the translated string it's not a get_strings issue, if that's what you mean	[23:55]
luciash	heh, i don't know, it was r22453	[23:59]

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