ikeco: hi all
trying to do a fresh install, but keep getting server error 500---any thoughts
luciash: ikeco: try to run sh setup.sh
ikeco: workin on it--thanks!
luciash: if you can't (ftp only access) you have to set your dirs writing perms properly... ah, ok
:)
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chealer: heh. there's room for more than a single commit of that kind
luciash: wouldn't sectionelse be appropriate there?
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tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks
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marclaporte: LOL
chealer: hi marclaporte
I was just looking at tickets for Toronto
marclaporte: anything good?
chealer: I'm ready to buy but need to choose between train (via rail) and plane (probably Porter)
marclaporte: the plane ticket increased to at least 150. but that's October 30
marclaporte: arrival at 15:35. the other plane ticket I see is much more expensive (300). maybe I should look at other airways
marclaporte: $150 for plane is excellent
from Qc city?
chealer: marclaporte: yes
I saw 115 I think a few days ago
marclaporte: what are dates?
chealer: marclaporte: the 115 seems to be sold out. the one at 150 arrives October 30 15:35. that's the only one I'm looking at now, since I didn't consider the one on November 1 for 300$
marclaporte: Oct 30th is perfect, no?
chealer: marclaporte: remember I'm just talking about going to Toronto, since I would come back in car.
marclaporte: ok
go for it. We need you in Toronto to be able to release Beta
chealer: marclaporte: I don't know. I thought October 31 or November 1st would be better, but I don't know exactly since I don't really know where I'll stay
marclaporte: don't worry, we'll find place
you stay where I stay
just bring your laptop and toothbrush :-)
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luciash: chealer: oh yeah, sectionelse sounds nice, somehow didn't remember that... thanks
chealer: hmm, but no, i cannot put the ul/ol inside the section
chealer: i would need to display the "No records to display" in a li which i think wouldn't look good
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luciash: chealer: i could do it with the table ones though
good morning Caarrie
Caarrie: morning
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jonnyb: morning all (just)
chibaguy: did you see that IE css thing that i changed for colorbox last night? I just wanted to check that it wasn't just me getting the page locking up in IE
luciash: jonnyb: hello
jonnyb: hi luciash
luciash: i haven't noticed IE css change
jonnyb: last time i had a non-validating <ul></ul> i just did a hacky preg_replace to clean out any empty ones - i couldn't find a more elegant way of doing it
i thought you said yuou didn't have access to IE?
luciash: yea, i have actually, but the not-so-quick workarounds way
chibaguy: hi jonnyb (and everyone). I haven't checked with ie yet.
jonnyb: hi chibaguy
luciash: jonnyb: preg_replace sounds hacky, yup
jonnyb: luciash: better than not validating? (discuss!)
luciash: jonnyb: sure it is better than non-validating, but is it faster than if-else ?
jonnyb: chibaguy: i was getting IE7 & 8 freezing on each page load for nearly 10 seconds - i.e. very noticeable. and tracked it down to the last 10 lines of colorbox.css (when feature_shadowbox==y)
these are now commented out, so i'd like you to check what happens if you uncomment them
luciash: if/else wasn't possible without totally rewriting the whole tpl (and probably the php)
luciash: hi chibaguy
jonnyb: i was lucky i did have to do just few changes in the tpl last night ;)
jonnyb: :)
luciash: but as chealer said, there's lot of room to do it with other modules yet
some are even still table "lists"
jonnyb: mmmmmm, yum!
hey chealer - well done for tackling the shoutbox revamp - i was meaning to have a go at that one myself (eventually!)
seems to work well
luciash: IE6 seems to cope much better with trunk now
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luciash: chibaguy: i thought you deleted the empty.css ?
chibaguy: does theme switch work for you in IE6 as anonymous ?
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22567 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Use new {img} syntax when markup inserted from filegal manager.
tikiwiki: Now defaults to using fileId instead of src, thumb=y and rel="box[g]" for colorbox.
chibaguy: luciash, no, I didn't delete it. jonnyb, what was the idea for empty.css? Did you add it?
jonnyb: yes, t'was me - it's so you can check what layout.css (and now design.css) look like on their own - just for us for dev really
should be removed before release
luciash: jonnyb: mybe we can keep it if it's useful and make just exception for the dropdown
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jonnyb: could be - but it's off the dropdown that i use it most (like when debugging this colorbox issue)
so hide it if not admin, maybe?
luciash: aah, okay :)
yup yup
chibaguy: my ie6 is having a hard time opening pages right now :-/
jonnyb: chibaguy: did you see all that stuff about IE locking up? (about 30 mins ago)
chibaguy: no
jonnyb: thought not...
chibaguy: i was getting IE7 & 8 freezing on each page load for nearly 10 seconds - i.e. very noticeable. and tracked it down to the last 10 lines of colorbox.css (when feature_shadowbox==y)
these are now commented out, so i'd like you to check what happens if you uncomment them
-: chibaguy just read it
chibaguy: ok, as soon as I get my IE's to cooperate.
jonnyb: sorry to inflict that on you :)
it was really unusable for me - but i use windows under emulation, so it might have been that
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chibaguy: this is in trunk currently, right/
?
jonnyb: yy
chibaguy: on pages that use colorbox specifically, or any page?
jonnyb: trunk is now ok for me - you need to uncomment the last lines in colorbox.css to make it bad again
any page (strangely)
chibaguy: ah, ok.
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chibaguy: I uncommented the lines and ftp'ed the file to zukakakina.com/tw4/ and there seems to be no problem with IE7.
I do get a javascript error on list_file_gallery though.
(something separate)
jonnyb: oh?
ok, i'll try on mine
chibaguy: the install I'm trying on isn't totally up-to-date, though.
not sure what revision it is.
luciash: chibaguy: i just fixed it in trunk tonight, are u svn up ?
chibaguy: ie7 doesn't seem to want to load my localhost install.
jonnyb: ok - i just updated mine yesterday, but it was the same with IE7
service pack 3?
chibaguy: yes
I mean I'm not sure what revision of tiki trunk I'm trying IE7 with.
It's several days old anyway.
jonnyb: it's something to do with the alphaloader filter, so maybe i've got something nasty in my system... it has all the m$ dev stuff on (visual muppet, as we used to call it)
oh, ok
luciash: ah, ok, then you just have to ignore the error ;)
jonnyb: i can try with my wife's laptop IE7
jonnyb: thx
chibaguy: where are the colorbox pics?
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chibaguy: at that site, http://zukakakina.com/tw4/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1
jonnyb: ta (should have guessed - more coffee!)
chibaguy: I'm updating the site now but it'll take a while to complete.
should be more or less usable anyway.
jonnyb: it doesn't seem to be locking up like my one was... (strange)
chibaguy: maybe could be the revision? (not current yet)
luciash: jonnyb: i am going to uncomment it on mine
chibaguy: ah, I was testing while logged in. Now, logged out, I get a white page.
jonnyb: ik
chibaguy: Could also be due to file inconsistencies while updated, I imagine.
while updating
luciash: jonnyb: the last one comment only ?
jonnyb: it's about 7 or 8 lines of MS specific filter alpha loader stuff
chibaguy: hmm, in ie7, i can get tiki-login ok, but tiki-index is white.
well, I'll stop trying, until the site is updated.
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jonnyb: it'll need a db update too
that's probly the wsod
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luciash: jonnyb: maybe i know why, read the !!! Important note there
jonnyb: hmm? in colobox.css (thought i'd read it - will re-read)
luciash: jonnyb: yes, the AlphaImageLoader paths
jonnyb: :P
luciash: jonnyb: anyway, doesn't seem to freeze here
jonnyb: try on my test.ground
jonnyb: weird - i must have been tired when doing that - totally misread it :D
chibaguy: It's kind of cool how superfish menus wrap if they're too wide for the page. With menu 42, I have 3 rows of items and no scrollbar. ;-)
Not the greatest visually, but everything's there. :-)
luciash: oh, f**k, i am so used to firefox taht i tested in FF on Vista instead of IE7 :-p
i have IE8 here now it seems
looks good, no freezes
jonnyb: can you try on my test.ground ?
jonnyb: you need some colorbox images there ?
jonnyb: did you fix the urls?
luciash: no, i just uncommented
jonnyb: i'm going to try with the corrected urls (adding lib/jquery/colorbox/styles/ before images on each)
but am battling... gimme a minute...
luciash: fine
anyway, YSLOW will not be happy i bet about using AlphaImageLoader
i will add some colorboxes in the meanwhile
jonnyb: yup - confirmed on my localhost - it's the urls being incorrect (thank goodness someone here can read English!)
luciash: :D :D
chibaguy: Some strangeess with calendar events in ie7 - on a calendar month page, one event is outlined ok, but the second is 1151px tall. the box goes way down the page.
jonnyb: will rollback r22535 and do it properly
maybe it's enhanced for me somehow cos it's on localhost - or something...
chibaguy: element.style {height: 1151px}
luciash: strangees and sprongees
typo ?
chibaguy: yep. strangeness, I meant. :-)
luciash: i mean the 1151 can be a typo
chibaguy: :-)
luciash: jonnyb: does it freeze for you ?
jonnyb: hold on...
luciash: jonnyb: it doesn't freeze for me but the colorbox graphics are definitely missing because of the paths in IE8
jonnyb: no, seems ok
luciash: so we are on the good way ;)
jonnyb: i get the top left corner only!
luciash: yes, same here
jonnyb: wtf?
luciash: i haven't fixed the paths nor did svn up, isn't that why ?
i didn't svn up in last 20 minutes i mean ;)
jonnyb: i guess - i'm fixing (please hold...)
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22568 10/trunk/lib/setup/js_detect.php: [FIX] Rollback of 22536 (thanks Luci for finding correct fix)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22569 10/third_party/jquery/ (colorbox/styles/colorbox.css jquery-tiki-readme.txt): [FIX] Rollback of 22535 (thanks Luci for finding correct fix)
jonnyb: phew - ok, IE good now
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22570 10/third_party/jquery/ (colorbox/styles/colorbox.css jquery-tiki-readme.txt):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Add correct path for colobox border images to URLs in colorbox.css
tikiwiki: (Thanks to luci for pointing out the !!Important Note just above them... :)
luciash: :)
ok, now my IE8 is frozen :-p don't worry, it must be just bad weather or something ;)
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jonnyb: děkuji ti luciash
ok, want the next one? :)
luciash: ok, reloaded and it behaves nicely again
hehe, neni zač, jonnyb :)
what is the next one ?
jonnyb: ok, you got an image: {img fileId="1" thumb="y" link="display1" rel="box[g]"} and all is well
then add a description to it, thus: {img fileId="1" thumb="y" link="display1" rel="box[g]" desc="nice picture"}
and when you click on it colorbox gets a JS error (url undefined)
if you take the thumb=y bit out, it's ok again...
nasty
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-: jonnyb loves the noise important people make when they log in now
Caarrie mutes the speakers on jonnyb's mac
luciash: haha
marclaporte: :-)
luciash: jonnyb: why is there link="display1" it already makes the link automagically if you use fileId and thumb
jonnyb: ah, didn't spot that...
does it make the bug stop?
luciash: no idea, i just wondered
:)
i am not that fast ;)
jonnyb: (nope)
luciash: it must be bug in img plugin
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luciash: jonnyb: works for me
jonnyb: no JS error?
luciash: no JS error
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jonnyb: odd - the one with Foooooo as a desc?
luciash: yes
jonnyb: in safari i get: "jquery.colorbox-min.js:2 TypeError: Result of expression 'Z' [undefined] is not an object."
luciash: {img fileId="1" thumb="y" rel="box" desc="Foooooo"}
-: marclaporte requests a moment of silence for OverLIB code
jonnyb: and in firefox is get... (odd - no colorbox..?)
luciash: marclaporte: how long should the moment be ?
-: jonnyb throws hat in the air and looks for more overlib errors to jump up and down on
marclaporte remembers a young OverLIB, bouncing around, giving life to dull web pages...
luciash: :D
RIP OverLIB
jonnyb: maybe because i have no [g] there ?
{img fileId="1" thumb="y" rel="box" desc="Foooooo"}
jonnyb: no, i think it's the new session/missing icons thing
luciash: huh ?
jonnyb: ok (refreshed page eventually) - i get the same error in firefox
are you looking at your error console? (or is this ok in Opera?)
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luciash: yeah, no JS errors
refreshed the Tests page several times
you get it there ?
on t.g.cz ?
jonnyb: most odd
luciash: ah, just after clicking on the thumbnail i get something
but some other error i guess
jonnyb: on http://test.ground.cz/tiki/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Tests
yes, that error
no problem with the 3 images below it (no description)
and it's not really a bug in the img plugin (the html looks fine)
luciash: message: Statement on line 2: Cannot convert undefined or null to Object
i though the error appears on page load, sorry
jonnyb: i tihnk it's something to do with all that (your ;) ) code doing the shadowbox thing in tiki-jquery.js (but after an hour or two of debugging yesterday i gave up)
luciash: *thought
jonnyb: no no, on click
luciash: it must be something with the img plugin
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luciash: it doesn't happen with the other images which have desc too but not thumb=1 and not fileId
it must generate some onclick oddity
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jonnyb: indeed
not nice, sorry
but i think it must be to do with the shadowbox emulation stuff - it doesn't happen on the demos (as far as i can see - but then, they don't use filegals)
ok, next: newsletters
luciash: jonnyb: I get "aa is undefined" in FF which points me to jquery.colorbox-min.js
jonnyb: yup - if you use non-minified js you get a slightly nicer error message
somehow the settings object for that image gets reset to the default, and the url is empty (or false i think)
-: luciash inspecting the element
jonnyb: anyway, marclaporte - newsletters. still has overlib code in, and the switch to wysiwyg seems broken - is that the case?
marclaporte: no idea about WYSIWYG
jonnyb: the "switch" button does nothing
so i'm converting to the new textarea to see what happens
luciash: jonnyb: seems only difference is that it creates divs instead of table for the desc and that the erroring one has 3 times unnecessarily title set
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luciash: jonnyb: i will check the img plugin
jonnyb: true luciash - but colorbox will only look at what it's told to - e.g. the <a> wrapping the <img>, no?
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22575 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] {img} doesn't need link set for filegal files
luciash: where is use minified scripts ? Admin → ?
-: luciash realizes he can use "Configuration search"
luciash: waiting
grmbl... still waiting
that search isn't much helpful ;)
goes to give a shot of Admin → Features
jonnyb: admin/features/programmer
luciash: hrmpf, did it kill my apache ?
tnx jonny
jonnyb: the admin search needs to tell us where the thing was found, otherwise we never learn
also needs to be 10x faster
(one day)
-: jonnyb feeding - bbl
luciash: hihi
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luciash: jonnyb: weird, i can't see it there
marclaporte: when I edit a wiki page, there is <label for="comment">Edit Comment: <a title="Edit comment: Enter some text to describe the changes you are currently making"
but I don't see anything when I mouseover
is it just me?
luciash: hi marclaporte
sai_kiran: Hi Everyone
sylvieg: how guys do you do to overload shadowbox css ... it is loaded after the site style
luciash: marclaporte: it is here, just a bit slow before it appears
sylvieg: !important or jQuery
marclaporte: hover the icon
chibaguy: I guess a file like strasa/option/cool/ie.7.css won't work.
luciash: sai_kiran: hi
chibaguy: I mean ie7.css
luciash: chibaguy: won't work for wha ?
chibaguy: I mean the file isn't used.
luciash: oh
sai_kiran: i have just integrated LDAP authentication with AD for tiki. I have also enabled auto user creation. however when a user is created his mail attibute is not picked from teh LDAP attributes
chibaguy: apparently theme options can't have ie7.css, etc. files, as things are now.
sai_kiran: am i missing something?
chibaguy: sorry, sai_kiran, that wasn't meant as a reply to your problem.
sai_kiran: Chibaguy: no prob.. i understand
luciash: marclaporte: i wonder why it is so slow
marclaporte: the cluetip
chibaguy: sai_kiran, there's an LDAP forum at tikiwiki.org, if nobody here can help.
luciash: marclaporte: i wonder if anybody uses the powered by buttons nowadays still :-p
marclaporte: hehe
-: luciash just enabled it and it looks ridiculous :-p
marclaporte: we need something very clean and sublte, which gives a backlink to tikiwiki.org
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luciash: back to 90'
marclaporte: yes
how about replacing by the small buttons?
luciash: we have subtle link after Powered by: already
jonnyb: back
sai_kiran: chibaguy: thanks for the tip.. will wait for a while before i hit the other forumn
luciash: what about killing it completely ? ;)
marclaporte: hahahaha
ok, here is a thought
luciash: people can put "powered by" buttons in custom code in footer anyway if they want support some project
marclaporte: I would like an optional zone where people make publicity for Tiki: if they want to help. inspiration: http://tikiwiki.org/Viral+TikiWiki
jonnyb: hi sylvieg - re overriding colorbox.css - hmmmmm
marclaporte: we could distribute these "ads" via profiles
luciash: yea, just put it in the custom code textarea ;)
marclaporte: ex.: link to all Tiki Networks (http://tikiwiki.org/Networks)
hehe, yes, so customizable now :-)
except that we can't append in preferences, we can just replace
so if someone uses for something, and then, they apply the profile, it erases what they had
luciash: yup, it would work only for fresh installs
but people usually copy and paste widgets/buttons with no problem if they want
so is it necessary to make profiles for that ?
marclaporte: we'll want to update links every once in a while
luciash: if others agree, I don't object to killing this zone and using generic zones instead
did you ask Gary?
luciash: nope
but he's here
chibaguy: I was also thinking about those logos recently.
And how I never see any site with them being used.
I have no problem with them getting dropped.
luciash: marclaporte: btw, check open.ground, do we want something like that using trackers and colorbox ?
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luciash: (the red thingy)
marclaporte: I see mouse-over help in Firefox, Opera, IE, Safari but not Chrome
too bad for Chrome :-)
the red thingy: where do you have in mind? for trackerlist reports?
luciash: for anything, using Pretty Trackers... for making Appointments, giving Feedback (it's also poular on websites like that, but black... seen with Get Satisfaction, etc.), maybe for Contact Us, Register, etc.
marclaporte: reminds me of pop-over admin panel with quicklinks
perhaps there could be a free zone of text in Site Identity for people to configure this?
Ex.: "New to this site" or "first time visitor"
luciash: please see bottom right of http://www.impresscms.org/
jonnyb: bye all - back in a few hours
marclaporte: later
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CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22576 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]tracker: do not show link of a page selector if showlinks=n
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22577 10/trunk/styles/strasa/options/ (cool.css mono.css): [FIX] Site header background colors, mostly for IE7.
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chibaguy: marclaporte, the impresscms powered-by images are better because they're smaller, but still they don't seem necessary these days, imho.
luciash: chibaguy: bottom right ;)
chibaguy: The social networking links, otoh, are probably a good idea.
luciash: chibaguy: btw, have you tried blip.fm ?
chibaguy: no luciash, not yet.
luciash: ok, just thought if i can add you to my favorite DJs ;)
chibaguy: I'll check soon.
marclaporte: ideally, we would have a zone of willing Tiki sites, which we can update (like a remote control)
Like a RSS
like we have on info.tikiwiki.org (the RSS with stats from SourceForge)
chibaguy: as long as it's small and discreet, I think.
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chibaguy: that is, if it's kind of low-key, it will be more acceptable on more sites.
if it could be done in a side-column module, that'd simplify the implimentation.
if it's a special page-bottom zone ('messages from the mother ship'), that could be done but would need to be worked into themes, etc.
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chibaguy: Something we want to be careful about is interfering with the identity of the site. If it isn't a Tiki project site, then peol
people expect social networking links to be related to that site, not to the software that runs it.
luciash: my thoughts are maybe people will not be open too much to have auto-updated stuff on their site which they cannot control
but mam wrong... it happens with Ads and various widgets today anyway
s/mam/maybe i am/
chibaguy: the labelling would have to be clear, if it's Tiki promotion, like "This web site is powered by Tiki" and then the links to twitter or whatever under that.
luciash: i just think if its worth of implementing it in tiki when it can be just piece of code we can ave on a wiki page somewhere and people can just copy and paste
s/ave/have/ (caesar)
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luciash: my writing skills get worse and worse on this laptop keyboard ;)
-: luciash have to buy extra full size usb keyboard :-p
chibaguy: Yes, we could be using the links, etc., on the Tiki sites and then a link or other easy way to copy the code for people to use, so would take care of two jobs at once.
I think we're probably lucky to have the little "powered by Tiki" text at the bottom of users' sites, and shouldn't push it with additional links, etc.
luciash: my thoughts
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chealer: polom
luciash: you're not working on your laptop's keyboard at home?
marclaporte: polom
chealer: how many more modules?
chealer: marclaporte: 9 with PHP code, but still the biggest ones. 1185 LOC of original ~3700
luciash: chealer: polom, damn i am :-p
chealer: luciash: is your laptop your main PC?
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luciash: nope :)
marclaporte: how many without PHP?
luciash: well, depends on what i am working on
chealer: any idea what is AND 1 = 1 in SQL query ? gives error with pgsql
will 1 = TRUE help ?
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chealer: luciash: ah. still, I bought a USB keyboard and a 19" screen (now 22"), before I did my first shoulder tendinitis, and I'm very happy I did. I also got a 2-channel KVM for sound, keyboard and mouse. those are even cheaper these days
luciash: AND 1 =1 is a bit strange, but sounds like the common WHERE 1=1 [AND ...], which means WHERE TRUE (condition-building hack)
luciash: no, no idea why it would give an error (without seeing the error message, anyway :) )
luciash: now, no idea why it would give an error (without seeing the error message, anyway :) )
luciash: ok, it is like ERROR: function find_in_set(unknown, text) does not exist
LINE 16: AND 1 = 1 AND ( FIND_IN_SET('critical', bits.flags) > 0 ...
/home/luci/Development/trunk on pgsql/lib/multilingual/multilinguallib.php : 518 -> query(array ( ))
chealer: marclaporte: apparently 14
marclaporte: so 20 in all!
chealer: luciash: oh, that's a SET issue (I mentioned that one in my report)
luciash: aye
right, changing 1 = 1 to TRUE doesn't help
HINT: No function matches the given name and argument types. You might need to add explicit type casts.
seems complicated
i will try to swicth multilingual off
chealer: luciash: as I wrote, this one takes a litttle time to solve, but it shouldn't be difficult. SET is a type designed to carry several flags, but bits.flags is only used for storing a single flag. so we could change the field to a boolean and adapt multilinguallib in a few places
luciash: that's what I did, yes
luciash: the nice part of this is that this SET field was not released in a stable version yet, so we could change it with little care :)
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chealer: marclaporte: yeah. some very long, some that should be very short
marclaporte: do short ones first :-)
chealer: can't I keep the candy for the end? :)
luciash: hahah
candy is amrc praising you !
grmbl
*marc
marclaporte: i get notice Undefined index: feature_wiki_screencasts
lib/setup/perms.php line 25
marclaporte: chealer: sure!
the more are done, the more we can test
chealer: :)
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CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22579 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [MOD] More plain English labels for tool help.
chealer: luciash: about sectionelse... true. we could use .first and .last, but then the're very little difference between both approaches
luciash: chealer: what is .first and .last ?
chealer: luciash: section properties: http://smarty.net/manual/en/language.function.section.php#section.property.show
well that's not the right anchor
luciash: marclaporte: where should i add it so the feature_check is happy ?
chealer: ok
chibaguy: hey, colorbox is resizing vertically now after latest svnup
chealer: luciash: that said, your fix moves the annoyance from HTML to Smarty: "Undefined offset: 0"
:)
luciash: chibaguy: is it bad or good ?
chealer: heh, oops, sorry, have to enable smarty error reporting it seems :-p
chibaguy: that's good. before, it was always one height no matter how tall the image it contained, for several weeks anyway.
originally, it resized to shrinkwrap the image, but then lost that for a while.
luciash: chibaguy: i am not sure it is good for small images like icons
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luciash: chibaguy: the title will not be visible
chibaguy: I think a minimum size would be good, probably. I didn't test yet, but small images have had a colorbox too narrow to contain the nav icons properly.
maybe 200px wide or so.
luciash: chealer: i don't get how the .first and .last would help me, sorry
marclaporte: luciash: I don't know but I sent LP a bug report about screencast. lib/prefs/feature.php looks ok
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luciash: chibaguy: i don't know how... there is no minWidth and minHeight for ColorBoc
marclaporte: tks
chibaguy: yeah, I guess it's not meant for icons and avatars, etc.
chealer: luciash: let me do last_files as an example
luciash: sure, you can fix the last blogs even ;)
blog posts
chibaguy: why ? you could have gallery of icons, nope ?
chibaguy: no, just for testing, but thought it would be good in case some site did have small images.
luciash: chibaguy: so maybe i prefered the same size for all images in gallery and only resize down if larger than viewport
i mean same size for the white colorbox area
anyway, that was just my preference
chibaguy: you're very organized ;-)
luciash: chealer: is there any module which could work with pgsql or no one ?
chibaguy: anyway, time to sleep here. g'night.
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luciash: good night gary
chealer: ah, online users works
chealer: luciash: I did not test any module with pgsql for fun, but I got the application menu to work. menus should work with ADOdb. I see no reason for other modules to work less than a random feature.
luciash: the problem is i have PDO here and don't know how to switch to AdoDB
chibaguy: i don't know how... there is no minWidth and minHeight for ColorBoc. menu
grmbl, that keyboard sucks :-p
so far i have seen the Resouce Id problem only with app menu
even the admin menu module seems to work
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chealer: luciash: it's very simple
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luciash: marclaporte: can we switch from mnu_application_menu to custom module with cssmenu for barebones ? (so it would work with pgsql too)
chealer: for dev or for common tiki admin ?
chealer: luciash: developer.
luciash: quick MySQL/PgSQL switch: http://paste.debian.net/49720/
luciash: but we need it for admins too
thanks
chealer: luciash: well, I think we want to simply get rid of ADOdb
luciash: well, then there's no point if the menu works with ADOdb
chealer: luciash: I think it's useless to work on PgSQL/PDO until we resolve the PDO BYTEA issue
luciash: indeed
luciash: see r22580 regarding .first and .last
luciash: cool
chealer: oh yeah, now i get it, thanks
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nelek: hello
can i download an irc announce bot somewhere for tikiwiki?
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Caarrie: nelek: to announce what?
nelek: wiki changes
Caarrie: you can use the rss feeds and any irc bot that can read the feed
marclaporte: mnu_application_menu is menu 42?
nelek: you have this kind of bot that when you change something on your wiki it posts it in the channel right?
Caarrie: my bot is an eggdrop with an rss reader script
nelek: aha
Caarrie: nothing special for tikiwiki
nelek: any url i can use to catch *all* wiki changes?
luciash: marclaporte: yes, menu 42
Caarrie: the rss feeds for tw
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nelek: uhm?
Caarrie: the rss feeds for wiki show all edits
as far as i know
nelek: ok
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nelek: hm where can i find the rss url for the wiki caarrie
Caarrie: you need to enable it in admin first
nelek: under rss modules?
chealer: nelek: no, under RSS Feeds (Admin panel)
nelek: ok thanks
i enabled it
is it possible to have the feed but hide the link on the bottom?
chealer: nelek: yes (see admin look)
nelek: uhm where?
sorry i'm a bit slow today :s
i just want the articles but not the wiki to show up at the bottom
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nelek: who's running tikiwiki|bot? is it running on eggdrop with rss-synd.tcl?
Caarrie: i run it and it does not use that script
nelek: which one are you using?
Caarrie: ftp://ftp.kvirc.de/pub/kvirc/tools/kvircrss-2.1.tcl.bz2
nelek: ok so its not on eggdrop
Caarrie: no it is an eggdrop
nelek: ah ok caarrie
it seems that kvircrss is an earlier version of rss-synd
Caarrie: well it works for what i use it for
nelek: did you have to do something special to get the urls to display? i setup mine but the urls dont show. works fine with with other rss feeds though
Caarrie: i loaded it like any other rss feed, not sure if tw.org is setup differently for feeds or something
nelek: would you be so kind to pastebin me the config of one of the items so i can compare it with my configuration?
Caarrie: give me a few minutes
set rss(tikiwikibugs) {
"url" "http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-tracker_r$
"channels" "#tikiwiki"
"database" "./scripts/tikiwiki2.db"
"output" " 002Recent Bug:002 @@item!title@@ - $
"output-order" 0
"trigger" "!bugs"
"update-interval" 10
}
opps just a sec
e@@ - @@item!link@@@@entry!link!=href@@"
nelek: uhm
iprobeer ik ff samen te plakken
Caarrie: ?
nelek: i tried to glue that together
"output" " 002Recent Bug:002 @@item!title@@ - @@item!link@@@@entry!link!=href@@"
that works :)
Caarrie: great
nelek: i now have an ubercool news announcer in my chan for my site :o)
Caarrie: so it outputs something like
[Wed 10:18:38 pm] <Tikiwiki|bot> New Forum Posts: Problem actualitzant TikiWiki a 3.2 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=16&comments_parentId=349
nelek: yes
Caarrie: great
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miki_tnt: hi all
i have just installed tikiwiki and I have some questions
is there any posibilities to have a theme for each group?
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miki_tnt: and to have a language for each group? So if you login with user 1, who belongs to group 1, you have a theme and a language and if you login with user2 you have another theme and another language
chealer: miki_tnt: you can have a theme for each group. see Admin Groups
miki_tnt: let's take a look
and a language?
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miki_tnt: is possible to assign a language for each group?
luciash: miki_tnt: you can have homepage for each group and if you set it to specific language maybe that is what you want
miki_tnt: i think I don't understand the language feature
luciash: each wiki page can have set its own language and you can choose to switch the whole site language to be the same as the current wiki page lang
miki_tnt: i mean, can I change the langage menu on the left depending on the group?
luciash: you need to enable multilingual feature for that
or you can set for each group as homepage: tiki-switch_lang.php?language=<group_lang_here>
iirc
miki_tnt: yes, i have set a page for each group
but, can the menus change of language depending on the group?
luciash: the mnu_application_menu should be translated if you change the language... if you mean some custom menu, you have to add your strings to be translated or you can assign a modules with your own menu translated version for each group
miki_tnt: yes, when i change of language the menu language change. I just wanted a langunage menu for each group
?
so, the only way is using modules
luciash: create custom modules at Admin > Modules... e.g. french_menu, spanish_menu and assign to groups e.g. French group, Spanish group
in the custom modules you can have {menu id=44}... in the other one {menu id=45}, etc.
the menus you create on Admin > Menus
there are also multilingual wiki structures, but it is more complicated i guess
miki_tnt: umm, thank you. it seems difficult. I am trying right now
and which id number should I use?
i don't understand this pretty much
when you create a new module and locate it to the left for example, teh module is empty
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chealer: miki_tnt: you need to put content in that module, for example {menu id=44} to insert the menu with identifier 44
miki_tnt: the id is the one of the menu you created
miki_tnt: but it is empty
isn't it?
how can i put content?
chealer: miki_tnt: as I wrote, you need to put content in the module, for example "{menu id=44}" to insert the menu with identifier 44
miki_tnt: if you use an identifier which corresponds to no menu, I wouldn't be surprised if the effect would be that the module is empty
miki_tnt: yes, sorry but I dont get you :-s
firts I have created a module, I have located it on the left, this module has id= 45
now as you said I need to add content to this module
where can I do this?
(sorry for my missunderstanding)
chealer: miki_tnt: the module id doesn't matter. what matter is the identifier of the menu which you'll put in a module.
miki_tnt: you'd better start creating the menu
miki_tnt: ahmm,
firts the menu
id = 44
but I have only set the name of the menu
now the module
with data {menu id=44}
i feel a little dummy :-s
where should I add the content? in the menu section?
chealer: miki_tnt: yes. you don't choose the menu id, it is assigned automatically, you have to look at what you get
miki_tnt: ok
chealer: miki_tnt: yes. the module simply includes the menu
miki_tnt: thank you. let's see
yes
I see!
thank you to chealer and luciash
buff
sorry , i were really slow
thank you very much
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CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22582 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: upcoming_events(): also return parsed field for parsed description
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Use the tiki-js.js "version" of getElementById() to find textareas, because sometimes the areaname is the name, and other times it's the id.
tikiwiki: Fixed dialog tool unplesantness in tracker plugins.
tikiwiki: TODO properly for 5.0.
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chealer: hey jonnyb
jonnyb: hi chealer
tiki's a funny place!
areaname can sometimes be an id, so you use a function called getElementById, which gets elements by name! :D
chealer: jonnyb: share!
jonnyb: each time you think you're "getting somewhere" with a new version you reveal another layer of horror!
chealer: hum, I had probably forgotten about that
jonnyb: Ah well, sometime to sort out for 5.0
chealer: sylvieg: I see issues on French tiki-admin_newsletters.php
jonnyb: i was looking at newsletters - broke it immediately :(
chealer: sylvieg: Lettres d'informations in tab names displays as "'Lettres d'informations". not at the top but in the page. extra slashes. did you notice that issue? it's in other places too
jonnyb: you'll be at TikiFestToronto4?
jonnyb: no sorry - just the montreal one
i'll join in here though (& skype etc)
chealer: oh, sorry. I'll probably see you there then
sylvieg: extra backslashes, that is
sylvieg: chealer .. a very interesting bug
chealer: sylvieg: myeah... name is passed to tab with some escaping (the slashes). clearly a Smarty syntax issue
sylvieg: I'm under the impression that Smarty's syntax lacks a formal definition. it's not clear what a tag inside another one does
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22586 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix toolbar pickers when more than one toolbar per page and reduce data duplication
tikiwiki: Optimised colour data and fixed one missing getElementById (wiki link)
sylvieg: {tab name="{tr}Newsletters{/tr}"} is working
.. does it mean we need to change all the '' in {tab
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22587 10/trunk/lib/wiki/ (renderlib.php wikilib.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Stop the same author being listed multiple times on wiki pages.
tikiwiki: Made it optional as it's unclear to me whether the versions data is used elsewhere.
sylvieg: perhaps we should ask to #smarty
chealer: sylvieg: yeah
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sylvieg: I tried a str_replace('\'', "'", $value) in block.tabset - but it still puts the first '
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22588 10/trunk/lib/setup/editmode.php: [FIX] Missing globals
sylvieg: we have about 20 {tab name='{tr .. we can chage them perhaps
jonyb - what is your problem with send newsletter?
sorry jonnyb
the bouton switch wysiwyg - do not work anymore :-(
jonnyb: hi sylvieg - i decided i should fix it myself really - you're porbably busy ;)
just committing fix for that, as it happens - hold on...
sylvieg: was working in 21911 - at least the last time I checkes
thx jonnyb
jonnyb: strange - (well, don;t think it was me ;) )
the one i had on newsletters admin was if you add a new one with a user selected _and_ all users checked it blows up
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22589 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Switch editor modes. Deployed {textarea} Smarty object.
tikiwiki: Needs more - part 2 tomorrow (confirm exit dialogs etc)
jonnyb: anyway - i gottago for a while - bbl (or tomorrow)
sylvieg: thx jonnyb the switch editor buttom works again
jonnyb: :)
sylvieg: chealer: http://pastebin.com/m2632bc4c
(but jonnyb I was sure it was working last time I testes - I just backported the wyswyg feature this morning in a tiki3 - and it was working
chealer: I propose we change the {tab name='{tr into {tab name="{tr
chealer: sylvieg: well, if it works, I have no problems with it
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22590 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletters.tpl: to prove chealer it is ok
sylvieg: just for you chealer
:-) sending an email on devel
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22591 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: upcoming_events(): pseudo-document and add new $maxDaysStart argument to filter on the number of days to an event's start date
sylvieg: btw jonnyb is verynice .. because html newsletters is very picky - the html must be more than 'clean' I committed that because it was working pretty well on a site... I do not know if we are lucky - or if the html produces by fck is 'clean;
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22592 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping
tikiwiki: [MOD] do not escape module parameter descriptions, to allow inserting HTML there. I hope nothing had to be escaped.
tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks
chealer: sylvieg: thanks, that works...for this specific string. I have no doubt double quotes solve some issues, I just see nothing which tells me it doesn't create more, perhaps with other characters (if we're considering doing this change everywhere)
sylvieg: in the language file everything with " must be escape
it is why the get_string does ""=>"" and not ''=>''
even if it slower
it was a choice a long time ago...
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22593 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
tikiwiki: [FIX] rename "RSS modules" to "External feeds"
marclaporte: chealer: : RSS modules was an ugly name!!!!
sylvieg: +1 for chealwer
marclaporte: chealer is a cleaner
CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22594 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]watch: send also a notif if attach file on a watch wiki page
sylvieg: s/l/n/; s/h/l/; ;-)
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luciash: sylvieg: ?
i thought someone recently commited something that should "allow single quotes in translation strings"
or something like that, so i wonder...
but fine that there is a workaround at least :)
chealer: hehehe :)
luciash: meaning in the "source"/ English string?
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luciash: chealer: yup
chealer: luciash: OK. possible, but the tab problem is with the translated string
it's not a get_strings issue, if that's what you mean
luciash: heh, i don't know, it was r22453