sylvieg: was your fix to avoid unwanted space in pretty trackers between tracker items backproted to 3.x or is it in trunk only ?
*backported
Martin:  thanks for the video's, did u make it over to see the launch?
You are welcome. Yes! We saw the first ever Aries I-X launch - very exciting!
yes it was beautiful, I'm glad you got to see it!  :)
oh, there was some launch ? :-p
We were lucky that it was delayed a day
the Aries I-X is the basis for the replacement for the Shuttle
oh
NASA - NASA's Ares I-X Rocket : http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasa.gov%2Fmission_pages%2Fconstellation%2Fares%2Fflighttests%2FaresIx%2Findex.html&ei=buToStyrDIbO8QbT473bDA&usg=AFQjCNGgxB1sImaAEq-OSJ1Q55BWOCjYFQ
yes, I thought about u all as I watched it, good thing for bad weather
did u see the beach then?
hah googley
y, we walked down it for a bit during our 3 hour wait
>google NASA's Ares I-X Rocket
Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
I watched it from my backyard...
Kimberlee: kewl :)
y, well, you are on top of it, huh :)
:)
I then got the others to drop me off at the Kennedy Space Center
and wangled a ride home from a stranger-now-friend
why is it considered shuttle replacement ? can it land simmilarly back to the ground too ?
no, but it will take the bulk of the traffic
I think that reusable must be too expensive - not sure
very "cleaver" design...
ah, it can transport a lot ?
hah
no pun of course  :)
of course
gotcha
it is very narrow, but extremely tall
It's a good test as to whether people read my business card
and are sharp
wonder what mine should say then?
haha
luciash: it was just an experiment
:)
yea, just reading about it on nasa's
Martin:was it what you thought?
you should see a night launch!  OMG, breathtaking, really.
Kimberlee: heh, i wonder why weren't you at the tikifest ?
were u?
too busy wiki'ing?  :)
i had no clue you live there :)
heh.
yep yep
livin in paradise
cartoon land
i live on an island
really.
*g*
alligators in my back yard
very nice, my son would love it
they even ate my pets!
oops
(course they were ducks...)
your son would have to watch out for them.  Mine do!  ;)
sure, anyway he's amazed by such animals
true, we got to look at one they caught and removed from our lake
it had its legs and mouth taped, I touched it
it ate my duck...
wow
yah, its gross how they catch them
sad really, they are just animals... 
anyways, launch was kewl.
hello
anyone here?
yep
do you know anything about hydrairc?
SEWilco2 your from minnesota?
TonikTrip: i don't know
Sug4r: do you know anything about hydrairc?
Obviously.
:)
well i have been messing with my pref on hydrairc, and i dont know how to save it. i looked for a button cant find one. i tryed /save dosnt work
:(
do you know how?
this channel is not for hydrairc
well i googled hydrairc and this site came up. site said this irc chan
so i joined
you have the wrong channel
TonikTrip: sorry, try #hydrairc
wonders what google TonikTrip uses
it was hydrairc save pref
or something of that nature
no need to be an asshole now
he is not trying to be
he just wants to see how this channel got in the search
TonikTrip: you behave like that
Caarrie: tnx :)
you're welcome
your the one who busted out with a sarcastic comment
no one was sarcastic TonikTrip
he was just asking a question
heya gary
hi luciash
anyways, sug4r maybe knows?
TonikTrip: Sug4r
is a bot
so, 3.3 is released  :-)
yeah, after the fifth of its sentence, as always
marclaporte: wb, just arrived or flight delayed ?
arrived
:)
marclaporte: you're in Toronto?
yes
I was in Toronto earlier, but still at airport. Now at hotel
hiya marc.
hi Kimberlee!
how are you?
good, we were talking earlier about the launch.  Did u get to see it?
I didn't see launch
where do we need to change "Current version is up to date" ???
it shows up to date for 3.2 sites still and even for 3.1 sites
:(
luciash: seems to be lib/setup/twversion.class.php
chealer: is it still 3.1 there ?
luciash: not sure, may be 3.2.
luciash: but I can reproduce the bug on my 3.0
than it's not that
s/than/then
luciash: I have an idea where part of the problem could be ( newVersionAvailable() )
luciash: yeah, I think I found it
cool
i hope it's not late
to have it for 3.3
luciash, 3.3 is released already.
luciash: yeah
i know, isn't it just change on tw.o ?
files are at sourceforge.
where the version availability is checked ?
luciash: yeah, actually it's still 3.0 there. but http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version is at 3.2
grmbl
luciash: I have no idea how http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version is modified
manually i guess by ohertel or sylvie
but anyway, if there's a bug in the twversion.class.php it is useless anyway
:(
wait, twversion.class.php is at 3.3 in branch 3
 Info: Tiki 3.3 now available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=77
thank you gary
bbl
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22729 10/trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: add some previous versions, just for consistency
...
i *just* upgraded to 3.2 like 2 hours ago and now 3.3 is out?
dangit...
pkdille: are you aware that http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version is outdated?
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22730 10/trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] adapt newVersionAvailable() to major.minor versioning scheme (and slightly simplify)
tikiwiki: not completely tested
PrezKennedy, there's a 3.2 to 3.3 patch.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22731 10/trunk/ (105 files in 45 dirs): [FIX] Language strings improved as on dev.tw.o/Pending text corrections .
does any1 have experience with ldap configuration in tikiwiki?
Cuberguyen: yes
Cyberguyen: what do you need ? 
changi: I have ldap up and running, but I don't want alle the users in my directory to be able to login - I want to keep them in a group
I'm using ms active directory and have created a group called "intranet" where I have put my users. I only want those to be able to login to the system. In tiki I have put the following in "LDAP Group" Group DN:cn=intranet Group attribute:member Group OC:group
changi: but it gives access to all users on the domain controller :-/
Cyberguyen: your GroupDN seems to be strange.
Cyberguyen: maybe you miss the end of the DN, cn=intranet,dc=...
changi: is was also a guess to what I should put in the fields - but will it be possible to do what I suggest with the intranet group?
changi:I'm not what experienced with ldap
Premature end of script headers: tiki-index.php, referer: https://sdphow2.cws.coe.int/tiki-editpage.php?page=Install_Windows7_from_scratch
oups, wrong past
Cyberguyen: what did you pu in ldap base ? 
s/pu/put
changi: dc=kailow,dc=dk
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Cyberguyen: maybe you put the group in a OU ?
Cyberguyen: then it's cn=intranet group,ou=...
changi: I will need to put a group inside OU, else the users will not exist in "cn=Users"
I can't get that to work...
changi: I'm new to ldap - what is the group used for? If I delete everything in the "LDAP Group" then I can still login
Cyberguyen: LDAP Group is for filter user in a specific group
Cyberguyen:did you have a look at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/LDAP+authentication#comments&highlight=LDAP%20Group  ?
changi: so I'm using it correct, but writing the wrong syntax in the fields :(
Cyberguyen: what did you put in group attribute , 
?
changi: yes I have looked at the page, but whatever I write in the "LDAP Group" doesn't seem to matter I still get access if the other fields is correct. I only want the people in tbe CN=intranet,CN=users,DC=kailow,DC=dk to have access
changi: but CN=intranet is a AD group inside CN=Users
changi: I would think it should look in a "member" in the CN=intranet where every user is listed. maybe I'm completely wrong... It could also be that there is a bug, I was fx. not able to same Country and attribute to the database through the interface, I had to make them myself
same=save
bbl = lunch
Cyberguyen: that's strenge : CN=intranet,CN=users,DC=kailow,DC=dk
Cyberguyen: you can't have 2 CN in a DN
hi all :-)
good job on TW 3.3 release!
changi|lunch: maybe it is me having differculties explaining it... :-(
changi|lunch: I have a bunch of users in the CN=Users,DC=kailow,DC=dk. When create a group in the domain controller and add a user to it, the group will be inside the CN=Users,DC=kailow,DC=dk and named "Intranet" in this CN there is a lot of member=CN=Cyberguyen,CN=Users,DC=kailow,DC=dk
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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22732 10/trunk/styles/layout/ (design-reference.css design.css): [CSS] Warning remarksbox title and link colours
Q: I have a wiki page with TRACKERLIST. Several users are watching the wiki page. How can I generate a "watch email notification" for a tracker item status change?
how do i genreate notification emails on any tracker item status change?
for folks viewing the tracker item via the TRACKERLIST plugin?
did you try to watch the tracker?
users can only view the tracker via the trackerlist. cannot view tracker directly
the user has no idea what a "tracker" is -- they simply want to know when the info in the table on the wiki page (via TRACKERLIST) changes
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22733 10/branches/proposed/db/tiki.sql: [FIX commit 15091] tiki.sql is not supposed to have update - the change must be done in the insert level
perhaps you can do a little plugin - watch teh tracker
Cyberguyen: like i said before, it's not possible to have a dn with more than 1 CN
changi: strange - but that is how Microsoft like to do it :-(
@sylvieg: it is also the same issue when watching a page that contains generated content. u do not receive notification if the genreated content changes :(
but this is hard .. if you have a module last_articles .. do you have to send an email when an article is send because he is watching the page
and if only the body of the article change - creating no change in the page... do we have to send a notif
Hard question
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22734 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Category for imported items (don't mix in the previous item's category)
tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22735 10/trunk/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl: - Modified icons for toggling page watch.
hello everybody
are you supporting tikiwiki?
I have some problems, maybe you can help me
ahm
when creating a calendar asociated to a group
how can the user add an event?
because it says I have no permissions
to add events
hi helene - i presume you're not the admin of this tiki?
I am installing it
and trying with a user
ok, you should be in charge then :)
who belongs to a group
jejej
are you logged in to it as admin?
yes, but I dont know how to do that
now, I am trying like a user, but I have no permissions
permissions of this calendar are:
tiki_p_edit_categorized
tiki_p_view_categories
ah, ok - as admin you need to give this user permissions to do stuff
tiki_p_view_categorized
that are the permissions of the category I have created
yes, but i have these peermissions
and i have also tried to add other permissions 
tiki_p_add_events Can add events in the calendar 	MUGGES-GROUP tiki_p_admin_calendar Can create/admin calendars 	MUGGES-GROUP tiki_p_change_events Can change events in the calendar 	MUGGES-GROUP tiki_p_view_calendar Can browse the calendar 	MUGGES-GROUP tiki_p_view_events Can view events details 	MUGGES-GROUP tiki_p_view_tiki_calendar Can view Tikiwiki tools calendar 	MUGGES-GROUP
which group is the user in?
But i can not add and event using a users who belongs to MUGGES-GROUP
it could be a bug?
sounds silly, but have you created a calendar? i seem to remember the "add event" button is there even if there's no calendar
jeje, yes, I have create this calender associated to the category of the MUGGES-GROUP, MUGGES-WIKI
htere might be a mixup with category perms - why not remove the calendar from that category?
umm, and do it again?
well, but it easy to create it
is it maybe a bug?
it is supossed that a calendar can be used for people in the group, isnt it?
and add events
@sylvieg: i agree. hard question. from end-user pov however, they only see the "page"
should be, helene - i haven't really used calendars that much (in groups)
ey
I have just check
ed
add event button is not the same that add event button of the day
ah no, 
I have no permissions to add events
does anybody  know about it?
polom polom
polom
hi cheal
polom?
Sug4r: enlight helene whatis polom
Error: No factoid matches that key.
hey luciash
Sug4r: enlight helene about polom
Error: No factoid matches that key.
Sug4r: enlight helene polom
helene: 'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P
Sug4r: enlight luciash you
Error: No factoid matches that key.
factoid actually don't know the real origin of polom
mose: was it what tom bambillom say when entering room or something ? iirc
in the foreset
:-p
exact
so, nobody could change http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version ?
bots still don't match human memory of details
:)
chealer: if nobody is ohertel, then yes
I could long time ago
plom
polom
hello gang..
I have access to tw.org
helene: moloq :)
what do I need to do
heya sylvieg, right
luciash: hum, not great for something to do each release
change tw version
hi sylvieg
sylvieg: see the content of http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version
mose: nice to see you here from time to time again
oh I still have account
sylvieg: just a line for 3.3 needs to be added
heheh
you can use me as backup in case of
the watch icon is broken for me in trunk :(
mose: sure :)
ok done
alain did not commit the icon
and .. I did not like the close icon - prefer olaf idea - or rick ideas
stupid
the idea is good but... the icon suggested is as ugly as it can be
non-graphic people should suggest their ideas but send an icon request to tikiwiki-artwork ml and we can create good looking icon which will match the rest of the iconset
I think there is a bug in calendar section. It is supossed that registered users can add events. But I have create a group and a category and there is no way to add eventes
ah, I found the commit strange too
i have no time to explain on the mailinglist :(
to Allain
sylvieg: thank you
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22736 10/trunk/tiki-gmap_locator.php: [FIX] Allow points in the rest of the world
In trackers you can have a category field, but it's only one level deep. Is there any way to show the whole cat hierarchy (like a deep=on param?) or does it need writing?
i am tempted to rollback r22735 :(
luciash: +1
moreover the icon names are not any better imho: "watching_disabled" implies to me the feature is disabled
indeed - and it would have to be changed all over tiki - icon names should stay the same imho
jonnyb: must be written (new option in tracker_item_field_input.tpl - suppose the categ box can be used
thanks sylvieg - that's what i feared :(
jonnyb: I suppose it is easy to do
loves trackers anyway
code looks scary but it is very powerful and flexible and the code can be always improved
luciash: +1
excume once more, the fact about the calendar could be a bug?
helene: it could
I dont want to bother you :-s, but i would like to know it
helene: please check if it's not already reported
>devtwo
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/
ahmm, where can I check it?
ook
changing the icon name to something generic could be a good idea though. just better generic names
yeah, but not now, maybe after branching 4
helene: it could very well be. which Tiki version do you use? calendar is full of bugs.
it has to be replaced in all templates as jonny said
to upgrade from 3.2 to 3.3, should I follow the Upgrade 2.x to 3.x process (backup, overwrite files, remove lock, run tiki-install, click upgrade) ?  I don'
chealer: i would say eye, eye_closed
I don't see anything else particular to 3. to 3.
RavenC: yes, as you say
luciash:  Thanks
the procedure should be same
luciash: I guess that's better, but not really "generic" if someone prefers icons other than eyes
thank you
chealer: I am using 3.2 version
chealer: well, true, it should be then watch, watched maybe
Actually I was already thinking about the eye open, eye closed idea that Olaf suggested, and combined that with the checked box and empty box.
So I guess I should post to tikiwiki-art list to show them.
Or upload them somewhere and post links.
Eye closed looks quite a lot like a bug walking past a box - challenge of 16x16 ;-)
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22737 10/trunk/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl: 
tikiwiki: rollback of r22735 (it would need to be modified in all templates, not just this
tikiwiki: one + the icon is broken now - missing images... please send your icon request
tikiwiki: to tikiwiki-artwork mailing list so graphics designers can create nicely looking
tikiwiki: icon from your suggestion/idea matching the rest of the iconset)
A little off topic, but it'd be neat if icons could also have hover state.
eye closed (not watching) - eye partly open (on mouseover) - eye open (watching) :-)
I have reported a bug related with the calendar
how about eyes that follow the mouse around the screen... lol
chibaguy: neat idea
wow ricks99, I haven't seen those rolling eyes for a long time :-)
it's the second time the colors of the database upgrade needed tiki-admin warning change in a few days. the newest yellow background is not looking good
probably jonnyb's got a jquery version somewhere in lib ;-)
i would suggest open eye with a tick to indicate being watched and closed eye for not watched
chealer: i guess more subtle (pale) yellow would do the trick
i tried a paler yellow - looked very weak
with combination of some red text ?
in warning title ?
i guess it should just be white bg?
I think the default rbox warning colors should probably be overwritten by themes most of the time, really, if you want a good-looking page.
jonnyb: maybe, look for inspiration somewhere else
jonnyb: i mean other web apps
luciash: sorry, in fact it's not really the background color, that was just the most striking part of the change. the main problem is that I can hardly distinguish the link to the installer there.
chealer - the small fix i made today should fix that, no?
jonnyb: maybe not, I'm at r22736 - but I didn't check I'm not using cached CSS
no reason why warning colors would be universal any more than normal link colors, etc. are. It all depends on what's appropriate for the theme's pallet IMO.
is there any way I can tell Firefox to really reload a page including its external references, without having to clear all the cache?
So design.css just provides the fallback default, I think.
http://ido.ath.cx/dbwarning.png
does the link to the installer there catch your (open) eye?
it doesn't look like a cache issue
konqueror renders it the same. there's something ugly about the border too
the title border is missing
the title needs some padding-right also
and, right, the link doesn't stand out at all.
chibaguy: yes. or it could be like other boxes and have the title the same color as the content border, which is not ugly
right
luciash: hum. I think I fixed the upgrade check, but nothing is done when $tiki_needs_upgrade == 'y'
probably the link color should be specified, if the background color is specified, same as text color.
can't assume contrast will be correct.
luciash: so now Tiki doesn't erroneously tell you it's up-to-date anymore - it just doesn't say anything
AFAICS
(talking about minor versions. it does tell about new major versions)
hmm :-/
better than before at least
yeah, though leaving this bug alone could leave it unnoticed for a good while
I'm on something
found it
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22739 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] syntax error in feature_version_checks check
luciash: Right after talking about the watch icon's resemblance to bugs, suggesting a tick in the eye does not produce the mental image which you intended.
3.2 to 3.3 upgrade:  3632 queries successful, 1 failed:
ALTER TABLE `tiki_sefurl_regex_out` DROP KEY `left` Can't DROP 'left'; check that column/key exists
SEWilco2: there is still some work to do on that, I'd say. My son said "turtle with lots of legs carrying a box" when he say the closed eye and checkbox icon.
when he saw
Everything appears to running smoothly after.
^be
chibaguy: Yup.  Too bad it's not a good idea to steal the CBS icon.  Not for legal reasons, but over confusion about nobody watching CBS.
chibaguy: hehe
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22740 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] feature_version_checks controls whether version checks are done automatically, not whether outdated version warning show
other wikis use alternative icon a triedr iirc
tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22741 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): - Added a SentenceAlignments class.
hi can i get help for smarty ?
the category picker in darkroom has strange colors now
Spacw: do not ask to ask ask..
iframes = cool !!!
tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22742 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): - Added a SentenceAlignments class.
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Q: when using VERSIONS plugin with wiki structures, how can i mantain the &version=foo when "paging" through the structure?
Tiki seems to "forget" which version I'm viewing and displays the default
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also notice the same issue when using print and wiki slideshow features :(
hi all
i'm getting blank search results when I search for certain strings in tiki
anyone seen that before?
is it the search box module or the site search bar? 
Is there a parameter to change the title of the menupage module?
doc.tw.o indicates that it should be titled with the title of the page, but instead it just says "Menu"
MacLeod: I think the Admin>Modules page lets you specify the title of each module.
MacLeod: Although I don't know where the "title of the page" would appear.
SEWilco2:  I don't see a parameter in Admin>Modules to set the title
MacLeod: I was referring to the title which can be defined for any module.  I don't know how menupage might try to display the title of the page.
SEWilco2:  From doc.tw.o:  "The module will have the same title as the wiki page."
(this is v3.1 I'm talking about)
gah, what is wrong with tiki-adminusers.tpl in trunk? the compilation gives a parse error even after clearing the templates cache
is it a Smarty bug?
MacLeod: you can change it via the common title parameter. the bug is fixed for Tiki 4
bug?
as in, the title parameter not working in that module?
MacLeod: the title parameter should work. but the title does not behave like it should, per the documentation
kthx
jonnyb: the bad link color comes from .warning a {[...] color:#333333 !important; } (design.css). that's pretty much black.
chealer: on the yellow background?
chealer:  Worked-around: Edited template.  :)
jonnyb: sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned the background earlier, the background is just what struck me in the change. the background isn't the problem, the normal text / link label contrast is.
contrast with what? sorry - don't follow
jonnyb: the link label's [lack of sufficient] contrast with normal text
do feel free to improve it :)
myeah, I know nothing about our CSS, I'd be afraid to move the problem somewhere else
hi, anyone here that can tell me more about the new permission system in trunk?
hi redflo
or where i can read about it 
hi sylvieg!
did you read the comments at the top of lib/core/lib/Perms.php
some time ago, yes
and thre is a test of perms
but i have issues after svn up
otherwise you have to bother louis philippe
hehe
A known bug I am on since .. testing a perm on a user that is not you is not working
but the perms code is hard...
i have issues that premissions on wiki pages have changed
since svn up
should be ok
ah thre is a batch if you use categ perm
hmm
where?
i used installer to update database
and newly created pages get strange permissions too
dammit I do not remmber where i put it
i never allowed anonymous to read by default, but he can now ...
and i don't know where this setting comes from
probably code is not yet finished ... :-/
tests/upgrade_categperm.php
mompl - my kid
it is not in installer/schema because the script is probably incomplete ... and if I commit now - it will not be possible to run it again
the script is not desctructite so you can use it
redflo: you can see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Permission%20Cleanup, but permissions on uncategorized pages shouldn't have changed
sorry wandered off for a bit there! its in the site search bar
really wierd cos I can search for most things
so far I've found the word "router" is no good
or the acronym "ptr"
almightybunghole: if you have white page - it can be not enough emmory
memory
oh interesting
you mean ram on the server?
memory in php.ini
ah ok
hang on I'll have a look
when you do tiki-phpinfo.php - waht is memory-limit?
memory_limit	24M
can you change it .. it can be a little short
yeah no probs. what's a good value?
the more the better .;-) I usually use 64M or 32M 
cool. and is restarting httpd enough for that to take effect?
(have set 64M)
if you put it in php.ini - yes you need to restart the server
yeah i did that, and can see 64M now on the phpinfo page
however still getting blank pages for certain searches :-(
I wonder is there a log that I should be checking?
check you php eroors
turn on the error reporting in tw
ok done that, just trying another search
where will the error be logged?
in your server log
if use tw - it is not log
it is displayed on the screen
I set it in admin - general (display all php errors)
do I need to restart httpd again? no error
no
with search do you use: tw? or mysql?
i think i found something
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... You should probably change your config because all the files... are saves with a md5 name
erm
you've lost me there
anyway thanks for your help, have to go have some dinner now!  i'm on the path so will track this one down
all the best
tw saves a couple of files with a name that looks like cbf123578bfd2d72c3
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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22743 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: syntax
OK, thanks chealer and sylvieg, its now more clear to me. but i guess the installer will have to help users to get that too. 
\did my script help?
trying to find tester before committing at the right place
testerS
i will try, but i think i have messed some of the permissions by hand until now. And i don't remember exactly how the perms were before. But it can't get worse.
oops, just seen, that there are some more schema updates since last week - just try a svn update now and run installer .... brb
hmm. sylvieg, your script did not help, but i think i know where part of my problem comes from. I have categories that have no perms applied and then the global perms are overwritten. and then nobody is allowed to see the pages.
it should not - if the categ has no perm - it will change nothing = and 2/ group perms coem before categ perms
hmm.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22744 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MOD]fgal: admin can watch fgal quota excceeded
so categories can only give you more permissions?
but object permissions reset the permissions?
0/ test perm like creator.... 1/ test group if perms apply here go out 2/ then if categ with perm, if so go out 3/ test general perm
so it has to be in 0/
redflo: no, categories override global permissions
redflo: they're in turn overriden by object permissions
and object perms?
direct attached permissions?
redflo: what do you mean? are direct attached permissions something different from object permissions?
no, just marketing ...
redflo: hum... what's your question?
the permission system (permission libraries) doesn't deal with creators/owners
hey marc! I don't think so. I just want to understand code!
chealer: it is true - but lph began to put creator info in the lib
before svn up i could add a permission to ex. a wiki page so that a group can view the page -> object permission
this should override all other i guess
yes
and probably it works slightly different now.
probably permission checking stops if object perms exist and give you a true or false?
i think it did not stop before new permission system
am i right? i cannot say, because i did not find the code now where this happens ...
sylvieg: hum, interesting. how far has he gotten?
not to far... but soem hooks are here
redflo: if object permissions exist, category permissions and global permissions are ignored. that was always true.
sylvieg: is it used/usable at all?
chealer: probably you're right ...
redflo : i just checked with a page with group perm, a page with categ perm a page with group+categ perm - seesm fine to me
chealer is right
i just try to figure out why i cannot see some pages after svn up - just guessing around.
chealer: I do not know - still trying to understand why a user_has_perm with a user other than the log one is not working - waiting for lpgh help
ah it is not see - not see to much
... does inheritence with registerd /anonymous has changed
not to include anonymous in registerd anymore?
must admit - I did not follow to much
sylvieg: OK. tell me if you learn more. supporting creators would be very interesting but AFAIK there is no support for now.
redflo: is it a simple problem with registerd
hmm. the page in question has object permissions for categories: tiki_p_view_categories and so on, but no wiki perms
perhaps you ahve to include anonymous inregistered
sylvieg: it shouldn't, except that it's now possible to remove Registered's inclusion in Anonymous
ok - I did not follow this one
redflo has your categ tiki_p_view?
(it is the purpose of my script)
no, categories have no perms
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so it is the pb
explain 'the page in question has object permissions for categories'
the page has categ or the page has group perm?
the page name is in the list on tiki-list_object-permissions.
and i can see about 10 permissions on the page
all permissions ate tiki-category... permissions and all are granted to Registered
probably the permissions on tiki-category... have changed in meaning
probably this was bad designed in the past?
they change name - but not meaning..
redflo: what do you mean by "all permissions ate tiki-category... permissions" ?
tiki_p_admin_categories, tiki_p_search_categorized, tiki_p_view_categories, tiki_p_view_categorized and so on 
redflo: what about them?
oh, another guess: have there been permissions on structures?
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22745 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Making the admin-gets-all-rights check dynamic and valid everywhere rather
tikiwiki: than bind it at initialization for the current execution. Checking an other
tikiwiki: group's permissions will behave correctly even when logged as an admin.
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22746 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Forgot to remove these exceptions that used to be required
Does anyone know if version 4 is on schedule for release in 2 weeks?
DeathBadger: : yes, it will
DeathBadger : only question is how stable it will be
Very cool
I feel Tiki4 is more stable than Tiki3 two weeks before release
Is the current pre-release fairly stable?
DeathBadger : wanna take it for a spin?
You beat me to my question
depends on features
you can get daily snapshot
I do.  I'm preparing to install a Wiki as our company Intranet
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/download#Pre_release_packages_zip_files_
Why did you choose Tiki?
I'll grab a copy and give it a spin
It has a lot of features and seems to work well
It took me a while to get my bearings, there are so many features
DeathBadger  : FYI about Tiki4 progress: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4
I really want the new feature in 4 that allows me to attach images per page and show them on that page
You can do that in Tiki3, no?
I want to do a lot of "how-to" pages with embedded screen shots
I think main change is easier UI, but should work in Tiki3 (unless I misunderstand the feature)
Maybe I can.  The problem I have is each howto has a "screen1.jpg", "screen2.jpg", etc
ah
I can create a gallery and link to the images in the galleries, but I like being able to attach images to the page itself - it's easier to create a page (I think) and I don't have to worry about image file name collisions
I have looked at a lot of wiki software and not many support this
I'll give the pre-release a spin this evening, thanks for the feedback
DeathBadger : if you store images in file gallery, they will have IDs
seems lph committed for my problem
synchronicity?
still nto working :-(
this perms are hard to clean...
you telll it!
but overall a good job as far as i see
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22747 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: notice
sylvieg: do you mean you found something undocumented in Tiki?
:-)
yes why there is a group attribute in Perms calss and accessor class
what is the difference..
when you do strict object programming - it needs to be clean
sylvieg: you mean hard to clean, as in deploy everywhere?
hard to fix
All my issues are gone now by deleting contents of users_objectpermissions. But this is special, because we messed permissions some time ago. But i'm sure permission checking has changed. It will be one issue for all that update from tiki 3. But: i'm sure it is clearer now how permissions apply.
redflo do you have db dumps - it will great to lok at them - because 4 will be a big step (perms - tracker...)
sylvieg: i'll try to get dumps. I'll try to set up a test case.
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but now i go to bed ..
cya soon
flo
sry 
wanted to say n8
:-)
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no resize? :(
no resize still, it seems
just noticed it via RSS feed of http://twitter.com/jacklmoore