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xavi has joined #tikiwiki xavi: toctoc chibaguy: hi xavi xavi: hi Gary! :-)
after many weeks, today I have some quite relaxing hours with no teaching at all... ***: coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki xavi: ... so that I plan to push documentation forward a bit, in the same line I've been doing previous days, in small chunks
:-)
Btw, I was very glad to see your name as the first one in the documentation team for tiki4 ! (and your improvements, of course)
multitasking chibaguy... :-) chibaguy: putting my name on the list was the easy part :-) xavi: btw(2): I've just seen in tikifesttoronto4 page that they plan to test/use BigBlueButton ... any idea on how / where to connect, etc? (I've never used bigbluebutton before, and the tikifest seems to start this weekend)
:-)
My goals for this morning are creating some page for the (missing in doc.tw.o) new plugins in tiki4, such as the one that luciash recently added, etc. :-) (morning luciash)
I mean: PluginTabs (it works pretty well in some trials I did yesterday)... and I'll review the info for PluginCalendar
also, if colorbox allows it (?), we could add some type of slideshow (with non-autostart) with screenshots of the new themes you've been working in for the last months... and are new in tiki4... What do you think, chibaguy?
I could do that also, if you like the idea... and if non-autostart feature is available somehow ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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xavi, about the slideshow, have you seen the homepage of themes.tikiwiki.org?
I added something called Infinite Carousel there.
it's a slideshow that uses jquery. xavi: ok, I'll have a look again
(I visted that one day weeks ago when it was not working as expected yet)
hey, you finished Mittwoch! Great! :-) Sug4r: Erm... hmm... eh. chibaguywebchat: there's a problem with javascript loading, in trunk. a page refresh seems to be necessary for js to be effective, at least in some cases. xavi: yes! that's what I meant! GReat job those of you who added that feature! chibaguywebchat: well, that's an outside script that I just added the js for and put the css in the wiki homepage.
I'll make a wiki page on how to do it. xavi: oh well, chibaguy, why not adding that as a plugin to tiki4?
that would be lovely for many many tiki users starting to enjoy jquery in tiki .... chibaguywebchat: well, there is already something called 'cycle', which is a simpler carousel type thing.
but i wanted a slideshow thing that could have text along with each image. xavi: yes, that's neat!
is it difficult to reproduce at doc.tw.o? chibaguywebchat: Maybe it could be a plugin, but its javascript would have to be added to lib/jquery/. xavi: if license is compatible (?), why not? chibaguywebchat: well, no reason why not, except extra 'bloat' for people who don't need it, maybe. xavi: Many people are using flickr and picasaweb, etc. because easier to add those slideshow-type-of-things from that software...
extra bloat: ah, do you mean that it will be loaded to all pages as js, even if not used in a wiki page? ***: coaboa_ is now known as coaboa chibaguywebchat: In trunk/tiki4 it's easy to add such things because of the look and feel textarea for html head additions. ***: coaboa is now known as coaboa_ chibaguywebchat: In tiki 3, it's harder because header.tpl needs to be edited.
(thinking about doc.tw.o) xavi: yes, but isn't it then added to all pages, even if they don't use it? (boat) ***: coaboa_ is now known as coaboa xavi: s/boat/bloat chibaguywebchat: actually there can be a filter: if $page eq 'carousel', then include the javascript, etc. xavi: yes, that's what I mean to avoid extra not-wanted bloat chibaguywebchat: right. the only bloat otherwise is the extra bytes of the upload. xavi: extra byte of the upload?
I don't followyou chibaguywebchat: I mean it adds to the total size of the Tiki package. xavi: how big is that?
carousel, I mean chibaguywebchat: actually, pretty small xavi: ok, I would say: "+1", then :-) ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) chibaguywebchat: license CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
I don't know if that license is ok to bundle in Tiki or not. xavi: mmm, not sure what that means in terms of compatibility with lgpl
neither do I
oh well, as a Starting point, a wiki page describing how to reproduce what you did in themes.tw.o could be a good starting point, at least :-) chibaguywebchat: yes, I've been meaning to do that.
about big blue button, I haven't tried it yet. xavi: hey, great doc, here!: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Floated+box+demo chibaguywebchat: :-) xavi: multitasking chibaguy.... :-) chibaguywebchat: themes.tw.o needs some major reworking, to get up to date. -: xavi is back to screenshoting and documenting chibaguywebchat: I've been trying to think about menus there, and organizing the information better, to be current with tiki 3 and 4
unfortunately, I'm not as multitasking as I'd like to be. ;-) xavi: :-) chibaguywebchat: about the docs, there is so much to do... xavi: I know :-) chibaguywebchat: so many new features, and so many things about older features have changed
even module names are different xavi: btw, which are the tiki4-only themes? mollio only? chibaguywebchat: ah, yes, and also xtratoveil, that are demoed at themes.tw.o xavi: documenting: I start from the bigger issues to the smaller.... chibaguywebchat: iirc xavi: mmm, I can't find xtratoveil here: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/
ah, ok, maybe not committed? (work in progress) chibaguywebchat: right. I'm not sure how that theme should be distributed. I don't think it should be in tiki's repository, since it isn't gpl. xavi: anyway, can you make a quick&dirty screenshot of those ones in tiki4? chibaguywebchat: The author gave permission for tiki adaptations, but I think still is the IP owner. xavi: so that we can find out how to produce a nice carousel-type of demo somewhere and add it to doc.tw.o (through iframe if needed, etc.) chibaguywebchat: copyright holder
hmm, interesting thought. actually themes.tw.o's homepage is showing the carousel in an iframe.
because if the carousel is actually put on the homepage, there is the problem with javascript not loading initially.
so I imagine doc.tw.o could have a wiki page with iframe and load the themes.tw.o carousel page. xavi: yes chibaguywebchat: perfect xavi: a new page called tiki4 at themes.tw.o? :-) chibaguywebchat: sorry, what do you mean? xavi: oh well, not getting the whole homepage of themes.tw.o, but just a page with the carousel with the screenshots of the themes ready for tiki4 ***: setog3 has joined #tikiwiki xavi: and thus, that's why I sugegsted calling this page "tiki4" in themes.tw.o
in a similar way that there are "tiki4" pages in dev.tw.o and doc.tw.o chibaguywebchat: ah, I see. xavi: mmmm, btw, isn't this a potential source of server resources consumption by bots attempting to send messages to no email addresses?: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-send_blog_post.php?postId=56 -: xavi is just thinking in loud chibaguywebchat: about the themes.tw.o homepage's iframe, the iframe src url is tiki-index_p.php?page=Tiki 3 Themes. So that "_p" causes just the wiki content to load. xavi: /thinking in loud/thinking aloud (thanks google translate) chibaguywebchat: I didn't notice that about the send blog post. xavi: "_p": yes, I know about it. So instead of "Tiki 3 Themes" or "Tiki 4 Themes", just "Tiki4" chibaguywebchat: ah, ok. xavi: send blog post: I would expect some anti-bot captcha to avoid that potential issue
I'm too used to hear sys admins complaining about resources consumed by tiki installations.... chibaguywebchat: :-)
I added the iframe/carousel here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3#Themes
for Tiki 3 themes
as a test
(I wouldn't want to be trying to load some of these big pages with a dialup connection ;-) ) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: UNC path - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35082 ***: chibaguywebchat has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) xavi: chibaguy (I was away): is there a way to avoid auto starting the carousel?
oups, too late ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki
ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy chibaguy: back again, xavi. probably, there are config options in the script. ***: miki_tnt has joined #tikiwiki miki_tnt: hello!
how is going?
I have just seen a new release
where can I find the change log? chibaguy: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/3.0/changelog.txt?revision=22716 miki_tnt: and how can upgrade 3.2 to 3.3? chibaguy: I guess is the same as in the package.
there's a patch. miki_tnt: let's see it, thank you chibaguy: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/ miki_tnt: fiu, really fast, thank you chibaguy: you're welcome :-) miki_tnt: there's no new fixed for calendars issues chibaguy: well, a lot of fixes have gone into trunk (tiki 4), also.
or instead
I don't know about specific calendar fixes, offhand. miki_tnt: and when will the release 4.0 ready? chibaguy: maybe in two weeks or so miki_tnt: i have just install 3.2 version, could it be recomended to reinstall 4.0 instead? ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie chibaguy: I would wait, to be sure 4.0 is stable, unless you don't mind if the site has some problems here and there. xavi: chibaguy: yes: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3#Themes . That's what I meant. :-) chibaguy: xavi, I figured the tiki 4 versions of themes would be available after tiki 4 is released, since I need to check compatibility and tiki 4 is still in progress. So maybe the themes.tw.o tiki 4 theme page should also wait?
or it could be done, but without download links for now. xavi: yes, without download links :-) chibaguy: they are mostly the same as thes for tiki3, of course.
at this point xavi: so that people know whether their customized theme in tiki3 can be easily upgraded to tiki4, if the same starting theme is available in tiki4 chibaguy: i see xavi: yes, and that's very good news for most users...
upgrading customized themes from 1.9 to 2.x, or to 2.x to tiki3 was a bit painful for most users... chibaguy: yes, fortunately, going from 3 to 4 should be pretty painless. miki_tnt: excuse me, i can not find the instruction to upgrade 3.2 to 3.3 version... xavi: yes, that's the good news: tiki3 to tiki4 should be painless as far as themes are concerned, at least ;-) chibaguy: miki_tnt, I suspect there are no instructions. miki_tnt: jeje, I suspect the same xavi: miki_tnt: there should be a upgrade 3.x to 3.latest
that' "the" page :-) miki_tnt: yes, there is a package chibaguy: but probably you can get the 3.2-3.3 patch and copy its files over (replace) the existing ones. miki_tnt: but without instructions
only copy? xavi: miki_tnt: read the documentation pages: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade miki_tnt: It seems the new version 3.3 modify the database chibaguy: I mean, put the new files in the place of the old ones. xavi: there should be a "upgrade 3.x to 3.latest" chibaguy: ah, ok. then also run tiki-install.php. miki_tnt: yes, xavi I have alreay checked the url xavi: miki_tnt: and? miki_tnt: run tiki-install.php?
and I haven't found it :-s xavi: miki_tnt: could you help us by reporting which information is missing on that documentation pages? miki_tnt: sure chibaguy: to update the database (be sure to click "update" (on right side of page) and not "replace", when using tiki-install.php miki_tnt: the patch has no readme instructions, for upgrade says to check the url http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade
aham
ok, so, maybe we can add a howto.txt or upgrade.txt explain that? xavi: miki_tnt: nope. that doc.tw.o/upgrade should be fine.
HOwever, I've just realized that it's not clear for new users.... -: xavi is editting that page right now chibaguy: I guess none of the Tikiwiki download packages contain upgrade instructions. People are expected to use the web page docs. miki_tnt: yes, i am a new user and I have found some problems :-s chibaguy: (though maybe I'm wrong about that.) miki_tnt: i found only Upgrade 2.x to 3.x example: 2.2 to 3.1. chibaguy: xavi, are you editing http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade+3.x+to+3.latest ?
Maybe that page is specific to this case. xavi: no i'm not. That page is not linked any more from upgrade :-( (Nad I did create that page and linked it from upgrade a while ago)
I was editing the Upgrade page
and thanks chibaguy to add the link to the right page (I thought I might have dreamed that I created that page :-) ) chibaguy: yes, it's hard to remember. must check page credits to know if it was dream or reality. -) xavi: Ah, after looking at the credits, now I remember! It was a user asking on irc, I replied and requested him to help by creating that page.... and he did! :-)
SO I just edited a bit afterwards...
that's more sustainable than just answering on irc ;-) chibaguy: right CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22751 10/trunk/tiki-upload_screencast_ajax.php: [FIX] remove PHP ending tag, Zend recommendation xavi: chibaguy, I was playing with mollio on themes.tw.o, added the theme option "TypeA", I lost both side columns, and nowadays, I don't know to to recover them chibaguy: heh, yeah, that's a problem with that theme option right now. You could try the URL tiki-switch_theme.php?theme=tikinewt.css or something. ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki xavi: ok, thanks :-) chibaguy: For demos, it's dangerous. xavi: :-) chibaguy: For a site, the admin can use the url tiki-admin.php or be sure to have navigation at the top, etc. CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22752 10/trunk/ (5 files): [FIX] remove PHP ending Tags, Zend recommendation
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22753 10/trunk/lib/ajax/autosave.php: [FIX] better code layout and coding style xavi: chibaguy: fyi, mittwoch on theme.tw.o has a color (for the text at the top horizontal menu) too similar to the header background.
and when changing theme options to other colors, the same issue shows up CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22754 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.tree.php: [ENH] allow folder icon to be styled... chibaguy: Oh, yeah. Those links are in the site header custom content. I didn't add a style for that in Mittwoch's stylesheets yet. xavi: ok.
nice to see Mittwoch theme back in the tiki world :-) chibaguy: yeah, and a nice thing is how much this time it is using standard features instead of custom files, etc. xavi: fyi, I've added Mollio already here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4#Themes -: chibaguy thinks oh, no, now I really have to make sure it's ready. xavi: and please, please, feel free to improve my English in the other sections where I?ve been writing some Spanglish :-) chibaguy: The css menus are generally really nice with these themes, too.
ok, I'll check, but expect to see only very small problems. :-) -: xavi didn't want to add pressure on Mollio
xavi feels sorry for that chibaguy: I was kidding, mostly ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki xavi: hello jquerybradley :-)
^jonnyb jonnyb: :)
i should get my middle name changed... xavi: :-)
coud you reproduce the issue with webmail not working for a second user not admin?
webmail_inbox (groupmail feature) jonnyb: no, i didn't really get it xavi: I did follow all steps in the steps you told me to follow jonnyb: i have it set up on alcns.net and you have an account there xavi: do I?
I'll try then there... jonnyb: seem to xavi: ok jonnyb: ah, broken it :)
was getting my server sorted out yesterday... xavi: oups---- Mac OS X logo.... jonnyb: just a random index.html - gimme a few mins... xavi: ok, sorry jonnyb: hmm - give in at about 2am last night - obviously wasn't as sorted as i hoped ;) xavi: :-) jonnyb: i'll splish you when i've mended it xavi: ok coaboa: is there an option to assign a icon to coresponding creospondingcategorie
*is there an option to assign a icon to corresponding categorie xavi: coaboa: I'm afraid not. But I guess you could hack your tpl files to do so... chibaguy: coaboa, where would this icon appear? coaboa: searchresults, list catregories, maybe smal version in treeview... chibaguy: yeah, I think xavi is right, the tpl files would have to be hacked. coaboa: need to have categories like novel, short story, news, lyrics with topics as: Locations, People, Invetions... chibaguy: you could place a category icon on a categorized page, etc. but I don't think there's anything in a category list, for example, that distinguishes one item from other for the purposes of assigning a background image or something.
how about ascii art: :-) happy stuff :-( sad stuff surprising things :-o ?
;-) coaboa: which t
pl
sorry: which tpl have to be altered?
Asci art, why not back to 80s ;-) chibaguy: actually I think even template editing won't work for things like category lists. the lists are just assembled dynamically from results in the database. coaboa: If women can wear leggins again, asci art will be the next trend in high end computing
ok... chibaguy: ideally, there'd be an image input and stored for each category, same as article topics now. ricks99: @coaboa: take a look at cateobject.tpl
thats the template the controls the list that displays at the bottom of wiki pages, if the "show category objects" option is enabled coaboa: is it for wikis only or would this effect articles also? ricks99: will work with articles via the {CATEGORY} plugin
category browser is more difficult, as the {$tree} is built dynamically ***: Caarrie has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) ricks99: anyone know if the category description is wiki parsed? could include the icon theere (which would display when a specific category is selected in the browser/tree) coaboa: ok... thx for the advise chibaguy: I put images in a phplayers menu using html in the menu links. don't know if category names allow that, tho. ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki coaboa: one more "simple" Q: i would like to display a tag-cloud for taged pages/articles at the bottom ~similar to: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlagwortwolke
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlagwortwolke ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Isn't that what Tiki's freetags module does? See "Most popular tags" on the left side of http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php for example. ***: MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki coaboa: thx. missed it. how would i integrate it using the custom site footer: simply {MODULE (module=>freetags_most_popular)}? chibaguy: {literal}{wiki}{MODULE (module=>freetags_most_popular)/}{/wiki}{/literal} I think coaboa: I'll try that.. thx chibaguy: hmm, it isn't working for me. Caarrie: {wiki}{literal} ? chibaguy: it's just printing {wiki}{MODULE (module=>freetags_most_popular)/}{/wiki} on the page, not parsing.
in tiki 3.3 coaboa: right away i can check in 2.2, 3.2, 3.3 or 4.x chibaguy: according to the example on look and feel admin, that syntax should work.
Caarrie, you're right. Caarrie: i have seen that before in this channel ;) chibaguy: {wiki}{literal}{MODULE (module=>freetags_most_popular)/}{/literal}{/wiki} works.
I misread the L&F example. duh. coaboa: thx works... ***: MartinCleaver has quit IRC () coaboa: Had a look @cateobjects.tpl. I'm not a coder. Would adding a img src="{/img/category/$i[o].png} @ line 18 produce something that makes sense if i place a image_named_as_category.png into /img/catgory folder? ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: do u want an icon for each category, or for each object within the category? coaboa: for each category ricks99: needs to be at line 6....
the name of the category is {$title|tr_if}
or could use the category ID, which is {$parentId}, might be 'cleaner' than duplicating the category *name* as ur graphic ***: miki_tnt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) ricks99: new Q: in 3.3 is there not an "auto approve plugins" permission? coaboa: line 6 should look like: <a href= "tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId={$id}"><img src="/img/category/{$prentId}.png">{$title|tr_if}</a> jonnyb: xavi - you still there? sorted my dns thing (or whatever it was) xavi: yes, still around jonnyb: wanna look at some groupmail stuff? CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22755 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-perspective.php: [FIX] remove PHP ending tag, Zend recommendation xavi: mmm, what about in 10 min? (I have 3 pages at doc.tw.o open while editting & screenshoting, etc.) ricks99: @coaboa: yup. looks good. assuming ur icon is ###.png jonnyb: xavi: super - see you then (skype maybe?) xavi: I'll be here (so that it's logged, if you don't mind and if no voice needed :-) ) CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22756 10/trunk/ (6 files): [FIX] coding style no function in for loop statements, PHPCS errors xavi: btw, I?ve been screenshoting some of your work (And others, of course), and putting it in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4 (I hope I got the behavior of thigns right :-) ) coaboa: yes, img name should be category name. I'll try that now ;-) ricks99: note that parentId is the category *number* -- not name xavi: jonnyb: http://alcns.net reports: The requested URL / was not found on this server. jonnyb: just moving some more stuff around, sorry xavi: ah, ok, no problem coaboa: ok thx for the hint. RavenC: thanks to all of you for 3.3 fixes! nice work. ricks99: anyone: in 3.3 is there not an "auto approve plugins" permission? xavi: ricks99: no idea. I wish it was, but I haven't seen it so far jonnyb: ricks99: i dont remember seeing one - was it committed to trunk? ricks99: im in 3.3 right now... i'll check trunk. tx ***: ricks99 has left
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SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki coaboa: ricks99: i used the show categories object pref. but it produces a long list of entries @ bottom of the page. I only wanted an Icon for a catogorized object similar to a topic icon. any idea? ricks99: u want to only show the category -- not the objects within the catgory? enable the "show category path" option
will need to edit the categpath.tpl, to showthe icon xavi: bbl (cooking time) ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22758 10/trunk/ (tiki-map_edit.php tiki-map_history.php): [ENH] fix coding style error : no function in for loop statemement PHPCS coaboa: Module categories. I want to exclude 2 of 3 top level categories. Excluding those cat. in admin->show categories path only effects the display @ top of the page. chealer: polom ***: MartinCleaver has quit IRC () CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22759 10/trunk/tiki-objectpermissions.php: [ENH] coding style avoir function in for loop, PHPCS ***: FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22760 10/trunk/tiki-list_kaltura_entries.php: [ENH] coding style: avoid function in for loop statement, PHPCS
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:-) luciash: great to see you back here xavi
wow, lot to read scrolling back xavi: see, I?m glad I could stay some hours today (finally!) :-) luciash: :) xavi: btw, nice job you did with PluginTabs :-)
it's a pleasure to add some minimum content here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTabs
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drews has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) chealer: where is HTML PCDATA defined? ***: lorinc has quit IRC (Client Quit) sylvieg: what is the interest tu do in tiki.sql things like `xxx int(1) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0,
if it is not null why default is 0 ricks99: @luciash: is TABS plugin meant to replace the VERSIONS plugin? sylvieg: chealer : btw for perms check on creator lib/core/lib/Perms/Check/Creator.php and lib/test/core/Perms/MixedTest.php ricks99: when printing pages, how to determine which tab gets printed? ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
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it's semantically different ricks99: :( how about structures. when "paging" through, if i have identically named tabs, will the same tab be displayed on the pages? luciash: sylvieg: is true NULL === EMPTY or NULL === 0 ?
ricks99: yes ricks99: :-) sylvieg: luciash: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.is-null.php see teh comment - it is tricky luciash: sylvieg: yea :) ricks99: can u xplain 'how' it differes from VERSIONS/? for end-user? luciash: and especially in each DB it can be different than in PHP ricks99: why would/should i use one vs. other? ***: lorinc has joined #tikiwiki luciash: ricks99: i am not sure how to explain, i haven't looked much into the versions plugin code, but semantically Tabs is just another way of grouping and displaying data on the page while Versions renders only the data it is requested by what version you need
that the display appearance is simmilar to the Tiki tabs is different thing imho chealer: sylvieg: I don't know what it's used for, but that looks like a boolean, so I imagine it's set to false by default. ricks99: hm.. sylvieg: tabs / versions - you present in tabs something that can be untab - versions you can not ricks99: from end-user pov, i dont really see a diffrence. seems (to me, anyway) that TABS is similar to VERSIONS but with a better UI sylvieg: because in fact or tabs are ... how the other call that ascensor... ricks99: "untab" = show me all the versions so i can see what change luciash: ricks99: when you do Ctrl + U can you see the code of different version in the rendered page ?
ricks99: in Versions plugin ricks99: y, its uses js to display:hide luciash: ah, then it is simmilar right, i thought versions should render only the version data :(( ricks99: would b nice (as in tabs) for end-user to have the option to see *evertyhing* for examle, on doc.tw.o to see exactly what the differences are between all versions 1.x, 2.x, 3.x etc all at one time luciash: should be changed to it imho or versions will become obsoleted to tabs in the future
obsoleted by tabs ricks99: correction-- does *not* show non-selected sylvieg: .me dreams to change {tabs to accordeon presentation luciash: i think that was the difference that with versions the all duplicated code just for different version is not downloaded as data
*i thought ricks99: i understand the differnce better now.... luciash: now i see i was mistaken
sylvieg: we can add that param to the block.tabset.php i guess ricks99: u are correct. VERSIONS requires an entire page reload -- only that version of data is loaded luciash: ricks99: aaaah, i win ! i win ! :D ricks99: tx for clarification
+1 luciash -: luciash wasn't mistaken ! luciash: :) ricks99: not the first (nor last) time ive been wrong :) luciash: don't worry, same here sylvieg: what is the interest to reload the page ... for print .. and smaller volum luciash: ricks99: we coukld add a param to versions plugin though to display a button link to "Show All Versions"
*could
and option to hide all the "simmilar to tabs" links and border ricks99: very nice -: ricks99 wants to make the VERSIONS plugin work better with structures and printing luciash: but it needs to be fixed too to keep the version you want as you pointed out with structures
now you can just workaround it with Tabs
sylvieg: yes, for that and for small devices maybe chealer: does Tiki force the Content-Type sent out as a real HTTP header (not talking about http-equiv)?
it seems it does - but where?
I'm on trunk
ah, setup_smarty.php luciash: no idea xavi: sylvieg, I'm testing the plugin calendar aiming to improve its documentation, and I'm afraid that I'm hitting some bugs... I know you were/are an expert of calendars... sylvieg: calendar or calendar new xavi: in last TikiFestBarcelona I requested sept_7 to set the PluginCalendar ready (not calendar module, but "plugin")
and he did. It was apparently working by then...
but nowadays, I can get the behavior as expected. See http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginCalendar for some details
issues: (1) events are shown twice in the list, (2) viemode Semester does nothing (shows only Month to me), (3) viewlist: I don't get which other values can have this param
s/I can get the behavior / I can NOT get the behavior
jonnyb still around? jonnyb: hi xavi sylvieg: my trunk is broken... xavi: so, shall we try again to reproduce the issue with groupmail?
sylvieg: oups. -: xavi wouldn't mind sharing my desktop with sylvieg, but he doesn't know why jonnyb: xavi: ok, how do you want to go about it? i realized it wouldn't help much showing you it working... xavi: sylvieg: that's my syntax with shows twice the only event in the calendars:
{CALENDAR(calIds="1",viewmode="Quarter",viewlist="table",withviewevents="y")}{CALENDAR}
jonnyb: my problem was that as admin, everything worked fine. As plain user, I couldnt' use the groupmail feature
... webmail_inbox was shown empty for that plain user jonnyb: was the user in the Help Team group? xavi: yes, it was
it is, in fact jonnyb: and had the right perms (you said before...i recall) xavi: if you how how to share desktop, I can shre my local server with you...
yes
I mean, can you reproduce the basic behavior in your local? If you can, then there must be something else in my local installation jonnyb: when you say "counldn't use the groupmail feature" do you mean the inbox didn't appear, or what? luciash: xavi: use RDP ? xavi: I had several profiles installed, and then, I installed (applied) the groupmail profile
RDP? -: xavi searching the the gnome menus luciash: Remote Desktp Protocol jonnyb: xavi: maybe there a conflict somewhere luciash: gnome has something to share desktop using RDP... i think it is called... hmm, forgot what it is called :) -: xavi searching at synaptic
xavi installing krdc luciash: vinagre ? -: Caarrie|away likes x11vnc luciash: yep, vnc too coaboa: reg. Profiles: do I understand it right, an applied profile is only removable by dropping the whole database? eg. 1. apply col.com and then 2. pers.blog. to remove pers.blog setting I either have to switch back manualy or reinstall a backuped version?
or do i miss something on how to remove a added profile? xavi: mmm, luciash, do you know how do I allow connections from others to my desktop?
vinagre and krdc is for connecting me to others, not the toher way around Caarrie|away: x11vnc chealer: xavi: well, they all connect you to others :) Caarrie|away: he wants a vnc server not client chealer xavi: but I want jonnyb to connect to my desktop? (using ubuntu 9.04 here) Caarrie|away: xavi: x11vnc is what you want xavi: carrie, installed already
and now, what? :-) chealer: Caarrie|away: I understand Caarrie|away: then run it coaboa: try krfb chealer: xavi: krfb is what I use xavi: program is running on console... -: xavi installing krfb in the mean time... Caarrie|away: now give others the ip address and they can connect with client coaboa: should have a self explaining dialogue xavi: luciash, go ahead
coaboa: yes, long explanation... still reading the text produced by x11vnc luciash: it says connecting using vnc://
xavi: is vnc what you use at the end ? xavi: mmm, I don't see any message myself...
x11vnc running right now jonnyb: xavi - the adobe thing works quite well xavi: adobe thing? coaboa: iiiiiiiiiiiiiii xavi: hey, krfb looks promising! :-) thanks chealer jonnyb: xavi: see the PM xavi: luciahs, I just cancelled the x11vnc
jonnyb: trying luciash: xavi: no wonder i cannot connect then ;
;) xavi: yes, try with the password I gave you on the other tab luciash: xavi: ok ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22770 10/trunk/lib/test/core/Multilingual/ (3 files in 3 dirs): - Deleted the AllTests.php file from lib/test/core, cause it's not needed anymore. phpunit is configured to automatilly look for test cases under current directory and lower. -: luciash wonders if any of the simmilar sites works with linux: http://www.xmarks.com/site/www.showmypc.com/ sylvieg: back from school
xavi - viewmode=quarter and not Quater xavi: ah, ok sylvieg: withviewevents does nothing
it is not used in the tpl
the error I see is the title - I have only October for the quarter chealer: gah, I broke something with version checks in trunk sylvieg: xavi: do you want the vagigation bar today..day wee in your title? ***: ricks99 has quit IRC ("Get more Tiki help from TikiWiki for Smarties: http://twbasics.keycontent.org") xavi: sylvieg, that option would be nice, too
sylvieg, If I remove the withviewevents=y, then I don't see the list of events underneath (the one which shows the event twice) ***: MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki xavi: and sylvie, I selected quarter, and it shows just the first month in black, the other months from the quarter are greyedviewlist=table
s/greyedviewlist=mode/greyed MacLeod: CSS / column width question: With a tikinewt-based theme in v3.1, on a WYSIWYG-edited page that has a table, the right module column has its right end always pushed slightly out of the IE browser window. This does not happen with pages that do not include tables. CSS fix? xavi: plus "viewlist=table", I wonder what other param values can get CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22771 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] calendar plugin: fix title + option viewnavbar sylvieg: I updated the doc
I have no idea what is withviewevents... xavi: ah, I get the error. The list shows the vent twice, because I created an event lasting from 8 pm till 6am the day after
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kiilo has joined #tikiwiki luciash: MacLeod: try .wikitext table {margin-left: 0; margin-right: 0} -: sylvieg hates code duplication - calendar is full of code duplication SEWilco2: Ick. doc.tw.o had ugliness a few hours ago due to long file names escaping from the narrow "new files" part of the "Since your last visit" module. MacLeod: luciash: Added that to my theme, but no change. ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC ("Leaving.") luciash: MacLeod: maybe it needs !important to override (no idea what the wysiwyg created table has)
can you inspect what the table attributes are ?
in generated source MacLeod: checking...
I know that I always set table width to 100%
Cell spacing 0; cell padding 10
Border 0 xavi: bbl MacLeod: luciash: those are the only parameters specified in the generated source, and i think they'd be the only ones that mattered
set cell padding to 0 = same result
ah, set table width to 500 pixels, and the problem disappears
So what about the table width being set to 100% is overriding the CSS layout parameters? luciash: MacLeod: yes, 100% width tables cause problems MacLeod: :( luciash: try 95%
i think it is because of the padding etc. in the table
or try to wrap the table in a div MacLeod: Yes, less than 100% works. This feels like a bug, though - 100% should be a valid setting for a table in a page - 100% of the width that it's allowed by the CSS layout parms.
No, removing the padding from the table gives the same problem.
Only changing the table width % fixes it. luciash: ok, you can also check the other themes what thay have set for .wikitext elements in CSS if it works fine there MacLeod: Wrap the table in a div? Not a good solution for users who want WYSIWYG without delving into HTML source. luciash: i think in CSS you can also specify .wikitext {margin: 0; padding: 0} if it has some effect on the 100% tables MacLeod: tried that, no change luciash: do the other themes have the sam eproblem ? MacLeod: good question. checking... ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
FrankP_german has quit IRC ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") MacLeod: luciash: no, strasa appears fine on a page that has the problem in tikinewt luciash: must be a bug in tikinewt css then
a "bug" ;) MacLeod: that's been my assumption thus far :)
but which value(s) to change? luciash: hard to tell, i guess MacLeod: querying the CSS values for the table, i don't see anything obviously wrong. width is 100%. luciash: you need to see in firebug e.g. what parents the table has and compare the css proprties with the ones tikinewt has MacLeod: Above that, div class wikitext doesn't have an explicit width spec.
Right, I'm using IE developer toolbar. luciash: in tikinewt it has ?
try to remove it then MacLeod: no, i'm back looking at tikinewt now
it doesn't have a width value for div class wikitext
searching thru all the "wikitext" entries in strasa.css, i don't see any width specs there, either luciash: and parents of .wikitext ? MacLeod: div tiki-center, nope luciash: (or children if any appear in between the table and .wikitext) MacLeod: div col1, nope luciash: col1 is the last resort i think
you don't have to go for other parents MacLeod: yeah, above that is wrapper, which includes the other columns luciash: then if it's not width it must be padding there MacLeod: or margin? luciash: which is not in strasa
yep
just check it out MacLeod: *sigh* got some digging to do here...
thanks for the ideas! luciash: well, if you find out we will definitely commit the fix with your credits ;) MacLeod: bitchin'! :) -: MacLeod waves ***: MacLeod has quit IRC () CIA-31: tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22772 10/trunk/lib/test/IntegrationTests/ (. importer/ wikiparser/): - Trying to put some order into automated tests. ***: xavi has left
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oops :D ***: kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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it wil be great to put the link in the eror SEWilco2: sylvieg: Thanks. Found them in what used to be admin>text. ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC ("Leaving.")
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lorinc has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Integrate Help and manual documentation in Tikiwiki and comments - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=35089