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[03:27] *** coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki [03:37] *** franck has quit IRC () [03:37] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [03:39] *** franck has quit IRC (Client Quit) [03:49] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [04:06] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [04:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [04:14] polom [04:15] polom gary [04:19] hi luciash [04:36] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [04:51] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [04:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [05:09] can anybody help with http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes33 ? [05:11] just pick a revision, click the plugin edit helper icon under the box and add some meaningful description to it on the line under the "revision" [05:11] start the new line with + [05:12] (to avoid breakage of the nice numbered list ;)) [05:14] or add some short sentence with links to the empty sections "What's New", "Important Changes", "Requirements", "Installation", etc. [05:20] btw, i have created an external wiki link alias rev: so you can now link to specific revision from tw.o using ((rev:)) [05:31] that's neat. [05:33] maybe we can copy to doc and dev too [05:34] a pity wiki links do not support rel ;) [05:34] afaik [05:49] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [05:54] copied it to dev and doc [06:03] * luciash thinks the EBM concept somehow failed again on doc.tw.o [06:03] last was 2009/07 [06:19] hehe [06:19] some things don't survive founder [06:26] I think concept is interesting for decision-making [06:27] but for most things, it's not decision-making the issue. It's volunteer time [06:27] i think it was lacking email reminders [06:27] good point [06:28] if i got an email each month i would follow the link i think but it was also problem to copy all the stuff from prvious meeting and lot of work to put it together for next one [06:28] to sort it out [06:31] I never got why the system was changed [06:31] marclaporte: btw, when i have you here, i wanted to suggest to try Mumble opensource voice software to held VoIP meetings if everything else fails (with BBB etc.) [06:32] it was project of the month recently on SF [06:33] it is gaming origin but can be used for various team speak purposes and works pretty well [06:33] you can press a key and talk and others see you marked who is currently talking [06:34] it's no video but for audio meetings it is pretty good [06:34] audio is most importasnt [06:36] one can set up own server too (murmur) but there should be some free available [06:40] http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ [07:02] why we have no print icon on the community site now ? [07:04] better to have print than the pretty useless "save to notepad" don't you think ? [07:21] marclaporte: is the distincion of headings in wikitext better now for strasa ? [07:23] better, but I think it's still not there yet [07:24] the twiki example I had still looks better [07:24] ok, i will work on it more then [07:26] what was the link again ? [07:28] marclaporte: ⤴ [07:30] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4#First_impressions [07:31] the background shade helps clarify the seperation between sections [07:33] and did we ever figure out a way ahead for http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/site_width ? [07:33] I would love a setting in look & feel [07:33] CGCOM makes all their sites with fixed width [07:33] and on default install, it looks better [07:34] and will you are there, do you know if we could have a bit larger fonts in wiki edit mode, especially in full-page mode? [07:35] to be more like a desktop-app feel [07:36] no idea, depends on user browser settings, dpi and screen resolution [07:37] it can be different every time [07:42] what size will look good for you can be too small or too big for others [07:42] i can just commit the fixed option for strasa if you want [07:42] for the fixed width [07:46] *** dthacker has quit IRC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) [07:51] *** btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [07:52] please do fixed width option :-) [07:53] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [07:56] *** dthacker has joined #tikiwiki [07:56] *** lorinc has joined #tikiwiki [07:58] *** franck has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [07:58] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [08:01] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [08:01] who changed it from Subject to Summary on devtwo ? now the e-mails come with empty subject again :-/ [08:23] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [08:24] *** btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [08:25] *** rigieta has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [08:40] *** coaboa_ has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [10:23] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22775 10/trunk/styles/strasa/options/fixed.css: [NEW] Strasa theme - fixed width option [10:38] In Opera, the Strasa Fixed option is full width of page, not fixed size. Is it meant to be this way? [10:40] * chibaguy starts firefox.... [10:45] Ah, I see. Shadow layer must be turned on for fixed width to be effective. [10:47] Still, in my 1024X720something laptop screen, the page is still full-screen wide. [10:47] Is the fixed option basically to improve the appearance in larger displays? [10:48] *** luminoso_ is now known as luminoso [11:02] About the heading sizes, the open-organizations.org page has a huge h1 size (ie, a really big span between that size and the regular text size) so a wide size range to put h2 - h5 in. [11:03] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [11:03] otoh, a theme like strasa has a much smaller h1 (pagetitle) size, which looks appropriate for the design I think, which limits the size differences between h2 and h5, making them harder to tell apart. [11:05] Also, Tiki pages tend to get filled with things besides headings and text, such as boxes, titlebars, various plugin things, which makes the pages look more cluttered, and reduces the relative significance of headings. [11:06] Probably Strasa is not the best choice for a really clean and organized-looking text page, especially with both side columns turned on. [11:07] The Twiki example is also cleaner looking because no right-side column. [11:09] Hiding Strasa's right column and zooming page 130% (in opera) gets a result pretty close to the Twiki page. [11:09] (possibility for another theme option, maybe) [11:13] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [11:14] bbl [11:47] chibaguy: re, it is because i have set it for min 1024... the fixed width is set to 1000px [11:51] i am adjusting the headings for strasa still [12:13] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [12:16] pkdille had a very good remark the other day: it is hard to have a good look for the title in the 2 cases see page title - do not see page title [12:18] if he wants to have the first title underline, he can not find a way with css to do it . because one time he must put the underline on h2 and the other time he must put it on h1 [12:19] the hx shift should probably have an additional class... [12:19] bbl later breakfast [12:27] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [12:29] tikiwiki: 03zchermit * r22776 10/trunk/lang/ru/language.php: [MOD] Add some Russian translation [12:29] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:41] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [13:08] *** FrankP_german has quit IRC ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") [13:26] *** pkdille has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:02] *** shawnadler has joined #tikiwiki [14:42] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [14:44] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:46] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [15:06] *** IAmWill has joined #tikiwiki [15:06] how do i hide everything from a none-logged in user? [15:12] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [15:22] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [15:31] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [15:41] You can create a Category and assign the (eg. registered group) permissions to it. Additional you have to remove the anonymous perm. from the Modules [15:49] IamWill: Also, on the home page you can use the {GROUP} plugin to display different material to Anonymous and to Registered users. [15:52] Well, actually you can use GROUP in places other than the home page, but you probably want to use other tools to block access to other pages. On home page you probably want to tell Anonymous visitors something about the site or topic. [15:53] luciash: gezza has been adapting the trackers [15:53] so perhaps he forgot a setting for emails [16:09] *** shawnadler has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") [16:15] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [16:23] *** Lucy_ has joined #tikiwiki [16:23] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [16:55] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [17:08] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC () [17:19] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [17:21] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [17:21] toctoc [17:23] sylvieg, and jonnyb, and I have some time now, in case you are around... (jonnyb, testing the groupmail; sylvieg the multitiki documentation you offered to tell me...) [17:24] toctoctoo [17:24] :-) [17:24] can we do voice on skype? (too much typing) [17:24] well, shall I try to reproduce the error again in anotehr machine? [17:25] ok, opening skype... [17:25] today I'm on the"penguin-bookpro" :-) [17:38] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:43] cotcot xavi [17:44] :-) [17:44] * xavi is skypeing with jonnyb right now (groupmail) [17:45] :) [17:46] xavi: tested yuuguu and it works out of the box, bit slow because of java, but better than the results we had yesterday with vnc ;) [17:49] yuguu???? [17:50] yes, i had sent you an invite to your email, haven't you got it ? [17:52] ok, I check.... [17:55] ok, got it,luciash.... visiting the url [17:57] getting the deb... [18:00] installing... [18:01] :) [18:01] yes, it looks nice [18:01] is it free soft? [18:01] couldn't see their license yet [18:02] i think it's not opensource but at least they support linux [18:02] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [18:02] ;) [18:04] only one i found with support for both, screen session sharing and client [18:04] some others support linux on client side only [18:05] *** btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [18:10] yes, looks nice. [18:10] still installing, though [18:10] :-/ slow downloading, it seems [18:10] ah [18:11] it was pretty quick for me yesterday [18:20] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") 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[20:58] *** Lucy_ has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [20:59] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [21:00] !help [21:00] You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [21:00] *** jazcar17 has left [21:30] http://algonquincollege.bigbluebutton.org/tiki.html if anyone wants to test [21:41] *** jazcar17 has joined #tikiwiki [21:41] anyone here? [21:46] *** jazcar17 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:46] *** jonnyb has quit IRC ("I am going outside... I may be some time...") [21:52] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [21:52] hey chealer, on the road to tikifest ? [21:54] luciash: not literally, but I'm verifying that my place in Toronto has working Internet access. [21:54] luciash: I guess I have to wait TikiFest now :-D [21:54] the trip went without problems [21:55] great :) it seems you have got it :) [22:04] luciash: : see above bbb link [22:08] marclaporte: ah, it got lost in the flow of irc joins and lefts [22:10] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [23:13] *** chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [23:18] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [23:36] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [23:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [23:40] *** timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI [23:40] *** timotiCK has left [23:46] *** GillesM has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [23:48] *** GillesM has joined #tikiwiki [23:49] *** Lucy_ has joined #tikiwiki [23:49] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [23:49] *** Caarrie3 has joined #tikiwiki [23:56] *** Caarrie|away has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [23:59] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))