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franck has quit IRC () chibaguy: polomafternoon luciash: good afternoon, gary :) chibaguy: hello, luciash. how are things going? luciash: fine, still something on my todo list ;) chibaguy: is that list ever finished? ;-) luciash: nope, of course not :-p chibaguy: Interesting quirk that's remaining in theme option selection: normally, when switching from Theme A + Theme A's option B to Theme X, theme option B is no longer applied (naturally)...
...but if Theme X also has an option B, it is applied "automatically", rather than just Theme X without any option.
(looking at theme option Fixed_width) ***: Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) luciash: not sure i follow you :) chibaguy: I mean, if you switch the theme (with switch-theme module), I would expect the new theme to load only, not any of its options. But when you currently have a theme plus an option selected, and switch to a theme that has a same-name option, that theme's option will also be used.
That could be a bug or a feature, but I think it's a bug, really. luciash: yep, but on the other hand saves user's clicking because if he/she switches from fixed_width it is very probable, that he/she prefers fixed_width option chibaguy: very true.
so maybe is a feature after all. :-) luciash: :) chibaguy: well, on my localhost, it doesn't happen - the new theme only displays, not its fixed_width option, for some reason.
but not a big problem, either way, and I'm really just happy to have theme selection working well for anons and on object level.
luciash, "Correct PNG images alpha transparency in IE6" seems to be kind of broken. The transparency works, but the image doesn't just display once, it repeats to fill div#sitelogo.
(in the case of div#sitelogo img) luciash: did someone remove the selector ?
it worked before chibaguy: The selector is #sitelogo a img - same as before, right?
Is there a better way to specify?
Otherwise, div#sitelogo will need to have height and width specified for ie6, I guess, to be the same size as the image.
-- kind of a kludge ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki luciash: hmm, no idea why it applies like that now... maybe check known issues/limitations on the script's author homepage ? chibaguy: afaik, nothing changed on L&F for this. I'm seeing this repeating-image on more than one tiki site, with ie6.
so maybe some problem with js that changed ? luciash: no idea, really, i just know it worked fine earlier chibaguy: that's right, it did. ***: tet has joined #tikiwiki
tet has quit IRC (Client Quit) chibaguy: I tried setting div#sitelogo height and width to match the logo image height and width, but this doesn't help. The fix seems to do some calculation that makes the div larger than it really is.
"/* Rule from element "style" attribute */element.style {
LEFT: 58px;
WIDTH: 405px;
CLIP: rect(1px 405px 125px 1px);
TOP: 94px;
HEIGHT: 125px
}
for img/tiki/tikisitelogo.png, which is height:100px;width:380px luciash: shouldn't it be applied on the img ?
or try !important
sorry :-p chibaguy: yeah, #sitelogo a img is set in the L&F
as before luciash: i mean, try setting the width and height on it
#sitelogo a img
or #sitelogo a chibaguy: the info above (with shouting) is from an app called IETester.
seemingly accurate
#sitelogo a - img doesn't get fixed.
The fix is making a rectangular shape that's bigger than div#sitelogo, so the repeating logo image actually overlaps the site title and log-in background, etc.
overflow:hidden on #sitelogo doesn't help. luciash: what is the element name,class or id ?
the one produced by png fix chibaguy: where can we paste code here now? luciash: or try this: #sitelogo * {width: 380px !important; height: 100px !important}
http://paste-it.net ? chibaguy: http://paste-it.net/public/xefe399/ ***: luminoso_ has joined #tikiwiki luciash: try DD_belatedPNG:shape {width: 380px !important; height: 100px !important} ***: luminoso has quit IRC (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) luciash: just for fun ;) ***: Tikiwiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=145 luciash: i know
then maybe try the shape selector ? chibaguy: I'm not sure how to edit those. the info is from the source as seen by ie6. luciash: chibaguy: aaaaaaaaah
chibaguy: i know what is the problem
chibaguy: the padding on the img
try use margin instead... must be my fault... so sorry
i think
this tester looks fancy :-p -: chibaguy presents nobel prize for css debugging to luciash luciash: i didn't mean to edit but try to use it as CSS selector
anyway
hahaha chibaguy: ah, anyway, changing from padding to margin fixed it.
http://my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage -: luciash thanks to his family for letting him alone sitting whole nights in front of his computer, his colleagues, ...
luciash bows chibaguy: :-) luciash: i have linux, gary chibaguy: yeah, I know, but thought you could sneak it onto your wife's windows pc or something. luciash: hahaha
okay, i am not much swimming in those waters -: luciash refreshes his memories: http://zukakakina.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=7&offset=0 luciash: it's nice and fast to browse the images in Colorbox chibaguy: I just upgraded that site from 3.3 to branch 4, so there are some unneeded tpls in some theme folders, etc. that cause problems, etc. in case you notice. luciash: np, i don't :)
thanks if you commit the padding→margin fix chibaguy: yes, will do that shortly.
Hmm, some image corruption during update, it looks like. how is this possible? luciash: huh ? chibaguy: in a file gallery, former images now look like ????+????[?c??)????????????W?cH???Qv luciash: grmbl chibaguy: First time I saw this happen. ***: franck has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) chibaguy: Lots of text of black diamonds containing question marks, etc.
= how they display in slideshow. Thumbs don't display at all. luciash: eheh, someone changed it wrongly again it seems chibaguy: Also the actionbox popup isn't working in file galleries for me after this upgrade. luciash: images need &type=img in rel if the links don't end with image filename extensions ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki luciash: so it displays to you now as plain text
i believe the images are all right, just the display in colorbox is broken, is it at zukAKAKINA ?
i saw it happen before ;)
or maybe you have the obsolete tpl as you said ? chibaguy: yes
no, the tpl is only siteheader-related.
main tpls are default. luciash: the broken thumbnails mean user doesn't have perms to view them i think chibaguy: ok, i'll check. luciash: slideshow works fine though chibaguy: what browser are you using? for me, shadowbox isn't working now in opera, at zukakakakina, tho it's ok in ff. luciash: chromium currently
i have opera open too
there is problem sometimes that shadowbox isn't initialized properly on first page load
one has to reload page or come back from the image i think
worksforme in opera chibaguy: hm, maybe some cache problem or something here. luciash: it must be the bad weather chibaguy: in file gallery, when I click "display image" in the actions popup, the page refreshes to 404 Error - Find: display43 - Create this page. etc. luciash: do you have correct rewrite rules ?
try sefurl off chibaguy: heh, didn't rename new _htaccess
now my thumbnails are displaying
very important to rename that file :-) luciash: yes chibaguy: also solved the "image corruption" I described earlier.
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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23058 10/mods/trunk/themes/fluidindex_tiki_4/ (25 files in 7 dirs): [New] Fluid Index theme for Tiki 4. sylvieg: dev.tw.org is dead? luciash: 4me2 CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23059 10/mods/trunk/themes/greenblog_tiki_4/ (32 files in 7 dirs): [NEW] Green Blog theme for Tiki 4. ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23060 10/mods/trunk/themes/judy_tiki_4/ (32 files in 9 dirs): [NEW] Judy theme for Tiki 4. sylvieg: luciash: and chibaguy I am merging 4 to trunk and I have a lot of conflicts in feb12.css chibaguy: what is the way to sort it out? compare the files manually and make choices?
I can do that, if so. sylvieg: My problem is I do not udnerstand why there is conflicts...
when did we branch?
ah ok nov 03
luciash did commit 22861 22862 22863 on Nov the 3
and chibaguycommit 23047 today chibaguy: right sylvieg: chibaguy: can I send you the file with the conflict chibaguy: ok sylvieg: or one solution can be to take luciash versionn and to reapply your change this morning... chibaguy: in trunk or branch? sylvieg: I think I would do something like this cp trunk/styles/feb12.css tiki4/styles
and reapply this morning change if neecessary ...
:1p
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and I will do a merge again ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: thx chibaguy ***: RavenC has quit IRC ("~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~")
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pascalstjean has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: Problem in 3.3: Tiki takes my "amp;" declarations in custom module and writes the HTML as "&" which makes my page fail validation. ***: kiilo has quit IRC ("Leaving.") ricks99: No such issue in prior release. How to fix? ***: RavenC has left
macnific has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: It is happening within the {JS} plugin ***: kiilo has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: {JS(file="foo.js&bar") /} being rendered (incorrectly) as foo.js&bar SEWilco2: & ? :-( ricks99: as per spec, "&" should be encoded in urls:
foo.html&bar -- not foo.html&bar
"&" signifies the beginning of an entity. ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") -: ricks99 thinks it is a problem with the js plugin parser -- i dont see the issue elseshere coaboa: is there a shop (items with miltiple colors,sizes) solution for tikiwiki?
*multiple ***: kiilo has quit IRC ("Leaving.")
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whatever modules you have will show up in the list on the admin modules page. coaboa: is the rating for articles depreciated? ***: Caarrie has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki rodrigo_sampaio: anyone knows the difference between tiki_minify_javascript and feature_use_minified_scripts? both options on the performance admin panel in tiki 4.0 ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23064 10/branches/4.x/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] Resolved merge conflicts, mostly involving site title and subtitle. chibaguy: rodrigo_sampaio: tiki_minify_javascript consolidates several javascript files into one (and maybe reduces whitespace, etc.). I'm not sure what else it does. I'm not about use_minified_scripts. rodrigo_sampaio: chibaguy: thank you, just wondering if it is not the case to join them both in one single option chibaguy: yeah, I don't know. ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
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i would love to see the "Big Picture" of it.. ricks99: @newTikiUser try the dev.tikiwiki.org site newTikiUser: i develop for my company intalled Knowledge Tree but this is far more complex tobi__: #1054 unkown column email_confirm in table list newTikiUser: @tobi__ i cant access the site ricks99: @tobi___ known issue from older tiki. need to upgrade tobi__: i made the upgrade already. how can i upgrade the db. ricks99: go to tiki-install.php
See http://bit.ly/2DjN1g "Update your db" ***: newTikiUser has quit IRC ("Page closed") sylvieg: I rebooted dev ***: chealer has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Not sure how to fix it off hand, but Look and Feel admin "Site searchbar" shouldn't be available to click if search feature isn't activated. ***: FrankP_german has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) tobi__: thanks for the great link for smarties. unfortunately the db-file is still the same and registration doesnt work. ***: FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki chealer: polom
sylvieg: thanks. is dev supposed to work now? sylvieg: yes I restarted apache2 chealer: well, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/dev.tikiwiki.org sylvieg: ok .. it did not work a long time
I rebooted again
how much time will it stay online? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23066 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Overlapping of site header custom code, top bar menu, and search form fixed. chealer: sylvieg: time seems to have answered that already -: luciash re-poloms luciash: chibaguy: thanks for resolving the conflict chibaguy: well, it should be checked on various sites. sylvieg: again down?
thx chibaguy luciash: chibaguy: shame on me that i didn't rollback the css3 stuff as we discussed -: luciash doesn't like merges ***: tobi__ has quit IRC ("Page closed") sylvieg: dev.tw.org [Wed Nov 11 17:08:03 2009] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting luciash: mysql :( chealer: sylvieg: yeah. and what's the current value? sylvieg: fgrep MaxClients /etc/apache2/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/* gives ntohing
can it be somewhere else? Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Image Gallery Issue: Screenshot link included - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35211 Caarrie: httpd.conf? ***: gozer_ has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: ok I doubled Maxclients and rebooted
how much time this time? -: marclaporte will update profiles.tikiwiki.org now :-) chealer: sylvieg: apparently not much. System error. Too many connections luciash: which profile is best to quick test trackers ? marclaporte: time sheet luciash: manual filter ? marclaporte: yes ***: MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki luciash: i see ***: dexl has joined #tikiwiki luciash: tnx ***: dexl1 has joined #tikiwiki
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that's not dev, but db0 sylvieg: MaxClients was too small I increased it but we get too many conections changi: it's the DB connection
there is 600 connection
hum is there a problem ?
all pointing to catergory object
back marclaporte: 600! changi: select `categId` from `tiki_category_objects` tco, `tiki_categorized_objects` tto, `tiki_objects marclaporte: we need more RAM changi: 600 connection to database
it's a lot -: marclaporte likes to throw hardware at problems
changi marc hardware is not everytime the problem
changi bad dev could be too :) sylvieg: with the new perm system... we will need problably need more memory luciash: wow, just crashed profiles.tw.o too changi: hum good evening :)
is it normal that i can't connect on profiles? luciash: Unknown column 'version_minor' in 'field list' changi: could help, if you need !!
run upgrade sql luciash: Database is not currently up to date!
yep changi: i'm a master in tiki4 upgrade now
:) MacLeod: marclaporte: What's your take on Google Wave, and how it might affect TW adoption & development? (Discussed this briefly on channel yesterday with nkoth...) pascalstjean: marclaporte: profiles.tw.o is down for the count again. I still have to commit my changes to Trunk. But after that I can either start making (user video's for featured Profiles) or move to some other tasks if you have anything in mind? marclaporte: I am upgrading to Tiki4 now pascalstjean: ok thx
MacLeod: do you know if Google Wave will allow you to export your information like they did with Google Docs? luciash: marclaporte: you should use more dogfood ;) pascalstjean: I know data portability is a major issues for larger organizations and enterprise ***: coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki luciash: marclaporte: and lock the site when doing upgrade ;) MacLeod: pascalstjean: No idea. I haven't received a GW invitation. :)
pascalstjean: Their demo does show an impressive amount of drag-and-drop for this type of application.
pascalstjean: I would kill to just be able to copy-and-paste images into a Tiki page (as I can in Lotus Notes), even more so to drag-and-drop.
Creating an image-heavy Tiki page is a lot more difficult than an image-heavy Notes document.
WYSIWYG or not pascalstjean: agreed
I can't speak for the community but in my opinion, Tiki's feature set is becoming very interesting. And UI has become a priority. I don't know if you've seen Tiki 2.0 but just within a year. The UI and editing interface have come a long ways. give it another 12 - 18 months and thigns can evolve fast
People were saying that Microsoft Office would be out of business within 6months of Google Docs. Yet Google Docs (great product) is still having a hard time penetrating Enterprise MacLeod: pascalstjean: We've got a Tiki 3.1 installation running now, and I agree it's come a long way. Looking forward to Tiki4. There are some key things, though, that don't appear feasible in the immediate future, like pasting images into fckeditor. pascalstjean: So lets see where Google Wave goes, they already delayed launch due to bugs. marclaporte: profiles.tikiwiki.org -> ready to be tested ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away
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rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki MacLeod: pascalstjean: Enterprise is a completely different animal from Consumer. Even our own Tiki - which has been up and running for almost 2 years - is having a hard time penetrating our Enterprise. :) pascalstjean: Agreed that more Ajax in the Editing interface would be great, but the taking on one battle at a time will get us far. Tiki needs to get ready for the tipping point in consumer adoption of collaboration. Although we use these tools, we are still early adopters MacLeod: pascalstjean: Our IT dept. completely disowns the whole project. I'm told that another big company in our field is the same way - IT supports Sharepoint, but there are a multitude of user-supported wikis and blogs running projects. pascalstjean: I attend many events and people are still trying to wrap their heads around Social Media, Collaboration etc... MacLeod: I see that, too, but I can't figure out why they find it so difficult to grasp. pascalstjean: hum interesting that people prefer maintaining their own Wiki's rather then going with Company supported Sharepoint :) MacLeod: Heard that from Boeing, too.
And they're a Microsoft partner
All of this is just increasing the gap between the computer skill Haves and Have-Nots. pascalstjean: Maybe because IT wants someone to blame if things dont' work. Microsoft is an easy target CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23067 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-list-sections.tpl: rename RSS feeds to Feeds, hopefully last place MacLeod: IT definitely prioritizes security and administrability over end-usability. pascalstjean: MacLeod: But its great to get feedback from users such as yourself. Its important for us to keep our ears open to what current users have to say. And what needs to happen for TikiWiki to stay relevant within organizations like yours MacLeod: For our purposes, Workspaces are the most significant development in Tiki since WYSIWYG. pascalstjean: Security vs. Usability has been the struggle between IT and End Users since computers exists :) MacLeod: Which brings me to the other question I had today: In a Workspace, can a user put one watch on the whole Workspace, and then anything that gets added to it is in that user's watch list by default? pascalstjean: You will see more examples withing Profiles using Workspaces afte rthe Launch of Tiki 4. Workspaces are functional but have to be configured using Profiles. ***: coaboa has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) MacLeod: This is an issue that has come up in some of our projects. Users will place a watch on the main project page and its discussion forum, but then new pages and forum topics are added, and they don't think about putting a watch on each one and end up missing changes. pascalstjean: hum good question, I'm investigating workspaces now but I haven't drilled far enough to anwser that question rodrigo_sampaio: anyone knows what is features_cssmenus? it is on by default but I can't find where to disable it pascalstjean: you can already add Watches on Categories rodrigo_sampaio: i'm testing tiki 4.0 beta MacLeod: pascalstjean: In v3.x ? pascalstjean: anything that gets added to the Category will send an update. And since Categories are at the core of workspaces. I'm assuming that the anwser would be yes
technically you can already do it in 3 yes
we've been using that feature internally in our company since 1.10 MacLeod: hm, missed that feature.... pascalstjean: since Categories MacLeod: Category Watches have been around since 1.10??? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23068 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]mytiki: displays nb of records for each section+display nb tracker comments pascalstjean: yes MacLeod: d'oh. marclaporte: category watches are on of the many hidden features pascalstjean: give me 2 sec I'll find the feature for you marclaporte: category watches are one of the many hidden features MacLeod: Anyone considering Tag Watches?
Oh, I see... in tiki-browse_categories.php...
Our categories right now, though, are pretty broad.
We're going to have to re-think them when we start using Workspaces. pascalstjean: yes rodrigo_sampaio: pascalstjean: in the code I can only find if statements checking the value of this preference (feature_cssmenus) and the definition of the default value of this preference. apparently there is no interface in the admin panel to change it. pascalstjean: turn on Watches then go into Brose categories
you will see 2 icons. Watch top category. Or top and all child categories ***: radif has joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Always show some groups on first visit.
tikiwiki: Hide Admins group by default and reduce the severity of some warning/note ramarksboxes. ***: radif has quit IRC ("Page closed") CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23070 10/branches/4.x/ (templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl tiki-admingroups.php): [FIX] auto_query_arg and tab label fix for groups admin ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) rodrigo_sampaio: chealer: thanks, I was greping for the string 'feature_cssmenus'. that is why I was unable to find it in the admin panel ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki chealer: rodrigo_sampaio: hum, that's the name
tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: {preference name=feature_cssmenus} rodrigo_sampaio: chealer: ops... my fault. grep -r --color feature_cssmenus *.php :) changi: guys, i upgrade my personal website to tiki4, and don't find the feature link admin panel
i can access it directly with tiki-admin_links.php but shouldn't we have a link in admin panel ? marclaporte: is it not at the bottom of tiki-admin.php ? ***: franck_ has joined #tikiwiki
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each time i use it .. obviously
=) chealer: changi: if the feature is enabled it should be in admin home ***: franck has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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franck has quit IRC () pascalstjean: marclaporte: where is Tiki 4 can we set the Wiki Editing to show the Tabs display instead of all options being in a vertical display? I find there its too long to scroll down in Profiles.Tw.O when trying to make quick Profiles Edits. Thanks diogogcunha: somebody must know how to make a simple hello world plugin! I tried everything on the page and it just doesn't work marclaporte: pascalstjean : i don't know pascalstjean: did you review this page and create the example plugin http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=wiki+plugins#Creating_A_Plugin ricks99: @pascalstjean: enable the USE TABS option on Admin: General, Navigation tab pascalstjean: ricks99: thanks ricks99: yw pascalstjean: ricks99: don't see it diogogcunha: pascalstjean yes! marclaporte: pascalstjean : are profiles working? (with Tiki4 upgrade) pascalstjean: marclaporte: been able to edit. give me 1min I'll try installing one ricks99: maybe moved to L&F? marclaporte: luciash : http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Time_Sheet&diff_style=sidediff&compare=Compare&newver=54&oldver=53&tra_lang=ar diogogcunha: pascalstjeal I tried to make a simple hello world plugin! it just needs the wikiplugin_helloworld.php file under lib/wiki_plugins folder right?! pascalstjean: diogogcnha: I'm not a plugin expert. Just trying to give some info. If the example plugin dosn't work then maybe there is a bug. can anyone confirm this? ricks99: @diogogcucnha: did u clear cache?
ARGH! i18n + structure driving me insane. -: ricks99 cannot figure out why his 3.3 tiki will not correctly swithc languages :( CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23071 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Toolbars: Removed duplicate tools, changed a couple of icons, placeholder width fixed, pagebreak syntax corrected.
tikiwiki: Visual improvements. diogogcunha: ricks99 yes! ricks99: @diogogcunha: does ur custom plugin appear when u look at the list of available plugins (wiki help)? diogogcunha: ricks99: if the file is on the folder the plugin page on the admin returns a blank page ricks99: sounds like u have a syntax error in the plugin diogogcunha: indeed!! but i almost don't have code!! pascalstjean: marclaporte: ok so I've been able to edit and install a profile since the upgade 4.x. the only thing I'll have to check is the Category Perms to see if Featured Profiles are still locked to non Dev ricks99: do u have the required wikiplugin_foo_help and wikiplugin_foo_info functions?
(without seeing ur code, it will b tough to determin the issue) diogogcunha: yes
i'll shown you my 10 lines of code on pvt marclaporte: pascalstjean : try click tabs/no tabs when in edit mode ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki
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franck_ is now known as franck pascalstjean: ok so its under Look and Feel->Misc->Use Tabs. this activates tabs throughout Tiki for Admin and for Wiki Editing marclaporte: pascalstjean : when are you coming to mtl and do you need place to stay? pascalstjean: marclaporte: well I talked with Pondstone (the other company that wants to start using Tiki) and they are all caught with the cold. So in terms of # of hours I can do to help I can put in more if I stay in Ottawa. If you think its better if I come to Montreal that the earliest I can leave is tomorrow morning (7am) and yes I would need a place to stay. What do you think is best? marclaporte: better here
tomorrow morning is good
I will find you a place to stay
Friday night cocktail too!
I want you to meet "everyone" pascalstjean: FYI I have to leave Friday night. Can't stay for the weekend. Sure I'd like to meet the others as well
I can always just book a hotel with Priceline. Let me check what's out there
I know Nelson is staying with you right? marclaporte: I think so -: ricks99 needs i18n tiki 3.3 assistance. anyone have 5 min to spare? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23072 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping ricks99: pretty please? ^^ CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23073 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-calendar_new.tpl: [FIX] static call to non-static $tikilib->make_time()
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23074 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] feature_filegals_manager back on in new installs
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23075 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php pics/icons/noparse.png): [MOD] Tool for no-parse syntax - temporary icon, please improve ***: gozer_ has joined #tikiwiki changi: chealer: I don't see it CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23076 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-calendar_box.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping
tikiwiki: [FIX] colons inside tr blocks changi: that's strenge, looking on doc and profiles, i don't see the feature anymore !!! chealer: changi: it's in Navigation features: MacLeod: Are Les Montréalais here familiar with the Upstairs jazz club? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23077 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-calendar.tpl: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping ***: Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23078 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-calendar_new.tpl: [FIX] revert r23073. oops changi: ok, so on doc.two, can you find the link to manage this feature.
oups, i see it on doc
damned CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23079 10/branches/4.x/templates/ (tiki-calendar.tpl tiki-calendar_params_ical.tpl): [FIX] HTML special chars escaping (actually) ***: gozer_ has quit IRC ()
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jonnyb and/or changi
im sure it is operator-error, but cannot figure out why pascalstjean: marclaporte: ok hotel room is booked. What time are you guys there at CGCom in the morning? If I get there early will they let me in? I guess Sebastien is there right? ricks99: pages that are *not* in the structure switch lang properly nkoth: not sure wild guess: is the multilingual structures feature activated? changi: ricks99: just to be sure, it's when you are in the structure and you want to switch language using the select boxnext to tweeter ? ricks99: y, multilang stucture is on.
ive tested using the tranlstaion box and the lang drop-list ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC ("Leaving.") ricks99: odd thing, the URL in the browser is corrrect (i.e., it shows the non-english URL) but the page is still EN changi: when i use the "read the guide : " it works ricks99: @changi: yes, that's the site lang switcher
if you go to a page not in the structure (ie. home page), lang switching works properly CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23080 10/branches/4.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] 'Ouput Should be HTMLPurified' -> 'Output should be HTMLPurified' changi: maybe a post variable missing CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23081 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: [FIX]categ upgrade: add view_comments and view_attach for rpevious view_categ ricks99: am able to duplicate using non-customizations, too...
now using "the news" -- standard tiki theme. and still have same issue :(
another (related?) issue: clickng a non-english page in listpages.php only shows the english page :( CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23082 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-menupage.tpl: [FIX]menupage: complete 23020 nkoth: check the "show pages in user's preferred ang feature ricks99: disabled ***: yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23083 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [FIX] HTML special chars escaping ricks99: cannot figure out why non-EN structured pages will not show CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23084 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_banner.php: [FIX] feature check ricks99: if i turn stuctures off, i can switch langs, as expected changi: it's out of my little skills :(
sorry can help you this time ricks99: tx for looking ***: pascalstjean_ has joined #tikiwiki
gozer_ has joined #tikiwiki nkoth: ricks99: is the multilingual strycture feature on or off? ricks99: on nkoth: try off? ricks99: on admin:i18n i have the following options enabled:
default lang = en
multilingal
users can change site lang
display available translations
translation assistant
urgetn translation notifications
multilingual structures ***: yonixxx has quit IRC () CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23085 10/branches/4.x/modules/mod-func-terminology.php: [FIX]feature check ricks99: wow. with multipling stucture "off" lang swithcing works, but now no longer in the structure(!) ***: sylvieg has joined #tikiwiki
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Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) coaboa: ...beside editing templates ***: FrankP_german has quit IRC ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") chealer: coaboa: you could edit English language.php ricks99: @coaboa_ you can make a change like that in the language file CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23087 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Link to assign groups in moderation email was wrong (wish 2813) coaboa: cool thx ***: nkoth_ has joined #tikiwiki CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23088 10/trunk/ (37 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD] lesser magic: add some hints for some already done preferences
tikiwiki: [MOD] lesser magic: first shot for tiki-admin-include-look. Indenting the template. Moving some preferences to lesser magic in the template.
tikiwiki: Preparing all the prefs for look in lib/prefs.
tikiwiki: It's an ongoing work... pascalstjean_: quick question, have structures been added to profiles by any chance? ***: MacLeod has quit IRC ()
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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23090 10/branches/4.x/lib/tiki-js.js:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Some improvements for textarea selection and caret positioning when inserting text from toolbars.
tikiwiki: Fails more considerately in IE and Fx3.5, but still some way from perfect - more TODO
tikiwiki: Also fix for filegal manager window not opening 2nd time nkoth: anybody ever used multilingual structures successfully before? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23091 10/branches/4.x/doc/devtools/securitycheck.php: [FIX]securty check accept cachepages
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23092 10/branches/4.x/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] More on textarea selection luciash: marclaporte: yes, it happened when i was saving the page at the same time you were upgrading the Tiki there
marclaporte: rollbacked marclaporte: hehe
now we know how this happens!
Mike Pilling had done many like this
no explanation
and I would ask him several weeks/months later
I also caused some luciash: marclaporte: yea, better to lock the site when doing upgrade marclaporte: now we know why
on new server, let's move all that to TRIM.
TRIM locks the site on upgrades luciash: i mean allow the access to admin only with message "we're under upgrade server"
ah, cool CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23093 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-profiles.tpl: [FIX] profiles are applied, not installed (installing implies adding files). marclaporte: it locks with .htaccess CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23094 10/branches/4.x/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]tracker: userCanTakeOwnership was a little bit too invasive
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23095 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [DOC] dev documentation no longer relevant (was fixed)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23096 10/branches/4.x/tiki-print_indexed.php: [SEC] re-order code to have security check first. sylvieg: dam,,, I have interference between the smarty {tr} and the plugin {TR()} when I use it in pretty ytacker marclaporte: oh! CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23097 10/branches/4.x/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Typo
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23098 10/branches/4.x/tiki-register_ajax.php: [FIX] feature check nkoth: marclaporte: how much longer will you be at CGCOM? CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23099 10/branches/4.x/tiki-handlers.php: [KIL] Remove useless file marclaporte: we wait for you
then, we get food
I am very very very very happy you are here nkoth: ok, i am past Dorval - not sure how long it takes more marclaporte: so much work still
can we see train view in BBB? :-) nkoth: not sure enough bandwidth or not i try CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r23100 10/branches/4.x/ (messu-mailbox.php templates/messu-mailbox.tpl): [FIX] user messages: prefer user preferences max messages to display pagination (thanks to Shawn Adler for noticing) ***: nkoth has quit IRC () CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23101 10/branches/4.x/tests/ (6 files): [KIL] Remove test files. If developers write interesting scripts, please add to doc/devtools/ ***: oys has joined #tikiwiki
Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away SEWilco2: I wonder if it would be a good idea to have a Maintenance lockout which provides no response to Anonymous users. So a cache server would keep feeding cached data to Anonymous during an upgrade. CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23102 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/ (6 files): [FIX] make impossible to call directly ***: oys has quit IRC ("Lost terminal") luciash: SEWilco2: i wonder how you want cache edit and save SEWilco2: luciash: Well, it would also be nice to be able to configure cache purge method to use when an edit takes place.
luciash: But I was just thinking that it would be nice to simulate an outage during an upgrade, so a cache server can serve what it can rather than showing the Maintenance login page. luciash: it must not take place... otherwise you get problem when user tries to save during upgrade
showing pages is no problem during upgrade, just editing SEWilco2: Blocking edits is a separately needed Maintenance feature. ***: oys has joined #tikiwiki
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now, when I enter the wysiwyg editor, everything appears on one line (paragraphs disapear).
I'll try to narrow it down a little more. -: marclaporte hopes not to be guilty CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23104 10/branches/4.x/ (templates/tiki-editpage.tpl tiki-editpage.php): [FIX] Hide empty tabs on edit page jonnyb: hi oys - see what you mean :(
i'm getting html tags showing too marclaporte: oys : it's a feature
oys it makes things much safer
perhaps a bit too safe? :-) ***: ima has joined #tikiwiki
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lorinc has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) marclaporte: luciash : can we delete pg stuff in 4x, and leave in 5x? sylvieg: pg? postgres? marclaporte: yes
like mysql_to_pgsql.php
there are some files to be deleted in db
db/case_patch.php db/fulltext.sql -> sylvieg can I delete?
argggh oys: jonnyb: jup. seems to be fixed. 12 minut from bugreport to fix is not bad :) switching between the two editing modes seems to be working pretty well, except: marclaporte: but if I delete stuff in Tiki4, it will also be deleted in trunk, via the merge script oys: converting html to wiki markup times out on large pages (e.g. HomePage) sylvieg: bbb is dead - can not log in CIA-68: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r23106 10/branches/4.x/ (9 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] HTML validity/CSS sylvieg: :-( marclaporte if you delte like ws - it takes a lot of energy to restore files -: sylvieg against delete like ws jonnyb: oys: that seems odd - but switching modes is really only likely to work once, so not intended for regular use (i suppose it should say that somewhere!) ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: i found it broke my images :(
ok - we go (lunch! :D )
more tomorrow ***: jonnyb has quit IRC ()
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