#tikiwiki 2009-11-27,Fri

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Who	What	When
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ildefonso	Hi everybody!	[00:09]
sylvieg	hi	[00:10]
ildefonso	How are you? sylvieg : do you have experience with tw themes? I'm trying to move a design to tw, but there is one detail that, well, I don't see how to solve (at least on my current level with tw)....	[00:10]
sylvieg	need to catch chibaguy or luciash chibaguy lives in Japan - luciash in Europe	[00:11]
ildefonso	so..... luciash should be... maybe, going to sleep.... :( , and chibaguy .... I don't remember Japan's time zone.... would you mind taking just a quick look at it? maybe it is something simple that I hasn't seen..... is it correct to post URLs in this channel?	[00:12]
sylvieg	one rule on irc - do not ask to ask - ask	[00:14]
ildefonso	ok, I don't see any rule against it, so: http://64.20.63.204/tw/tiki-index.php <-- that's the "new" site.	[00:15]
sylvieg	we have ..30 people looking - but answering only when they know and have time	[00:15]
ildefonso	and the original is: http://www.quatro-destinations.co.uk/ as you can see, both seem pretty similar now, but, there is one space after the menu bar..... and I can't get rid of it! it is called "wikitopline" on the html....	[00:15]
sylvieg	wikitopline	[00:17]
ildefonso	yeah, it seems to be the container to the "wikiaction" (edit and stuff), but I'm not logged in, so, it doesn't show them. but, show the container, which isn't funny for me :( . at least that's my theory ... but, as I said: I'm not too experienced with tw.	[00:18]
sylvieg	I will put a {strip} around tiki//topline	[00:21]
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sylvieg	there is an option in admin_wii .. to put put the 'action' in topline or bottom line too	[00:22]
ildefonso	ok.... looking at it....	[00:22]
sylvieg	bbl food time	[00:23]
ildefonso	ok, enjoy the food! (forgot how to translate : "buen probecho" to English, sorry).	[00:23]
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mm_	hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii	[01:09]
ildefonso	hi	[01:19]
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luciash	polom ildefonso: you can put .wikitopline {display: none} in your css if you don't want it there or #wikitopline	[02:02]
ildefonso	ok. I disabled the bar in the wiki options.... it worked, but now there is no top edit button when logged in, but there is still the bottom bar, so..... isn't there a way of "selectively" enabling that bar? I mean, only when you log in, if you are not logged, it shouldn't be there, or better, if all of its content is disabled, it should "collapse" to 0 size, or... maybe I'm asking for too mucho.	[02:04]
luciash	pretty nice clean design, btw maybe there is in Admin home → Wiki to display it on bottom/top	[02:08]
ildefonso	yes, there is... but the bottom bar will get modified in time. the design isn't mine ... but it is indeed clean, I'm just moving the page because the want a CMS, and well, I though: tikiwiki is great, and decided to install it to them. the thing is, they said: "We want the same look".	[02:09]
luciash	you can selectively hide it if you put <style type="text/css">{if $user ne ''}{literal}#wikitopline {display: none}{/literal}{/if}</style> in your custom code s/ne/eq/	[02:12]
ildefonso	ok.... I'm new to smarty too :-S but I see the logic. intersting, I think I'll use it.	[02:12]
luciash	it is not that hard, if you don't bother about xhtml validity you can put it on Admin → Look & Feel custom code (second tab)	[02:13]
ildefonso	btw, what is "polom" that you said when joining the channel?	[02:13]
luciash	otherwise put it in your tpl Sug4r`: enlight ildefonso polom	[02:13]
Sug4r`	ildefonso: 'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P	[02:14]
luciash	ildefonso: in Tiki 4 there's even "custom head code" textarea there (where putting custom style tag is already xhtml valid)	[02:15]
ildefonso	oh, that's the other question, due that I'm really new to themes in tw, do you have some good reading that will take me to the deeps of this thing? I mean, How do I override a global tpl from the theme? (for example). yeah, but I decided to go with the "tw 3.3 LTS", because of the "LTS" part :D	[02:16]
luciash	okay there is no such perfect read i fear, we all do learn by code	[02:16]
ildefonso	I though so, so... this is on of these situations where one should remember the words..... "use the source, Luke"	[02:18]
luciash	but basically you have your theme, you can have templates/yourtheme/some.tpl which overrides global templates/some.tpl err, sorry but basically you have your theme, you can have templates/styles/yourtheme/some.tpl which overrides global templates/some.tpl	[02:18]
ildefonso	ok, I see, simple enough....	[02:19]
luciash	so if there is really no other way around, cp global one, and modify to suit your needs	[02:20]
ildefonso	ok, that close the circle.	[02:20]
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ildefonso	being able to override themes with little hassle is enough to let one do about anything.	[02:21]
luciash	yeah, that's it, only disadvantage are upgrades but with LTS it shouldn't be big problem (just make note somewhere to not forgot ;)	[02:23]
ildefonso	btw, how long is the Long Term for 3.3?	[02:24]
luciash	iirc next LTS should be Tiki 6 >devtwo RoadMap	[02:25]
Sug4r`	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/RoadMap	[02:25]
ildefonso	ok, that's long enough. where are you from luciash?	[02:26]
luciash	central europe rule of timezones doesn't apply on me ;)	[02:31]
ildefonso	ok, so it is around.... 2~4am there?	[02:32]
luciash	yep 3:32am	[02:32]
ildefonso	:-S and... you don't sleep because.......	[02:33]
luciash	heh, because there's lot (on my) to do (list) ;)	[02:34]
ildefonso	I have never been able to stay awake that much, I only have only done that a couple of times in my life, and it wasn't good for me :(	[02:35]
luciash	u from south america ?	[02:36]
ildefonso	yeah, Venezuela. so.. I'm a tropical penguin :D	[02:36]
luciash	:)	[02:37]
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chibaguy	polom	[02:51]
luciash	luciash greets Japan	[02:52]
ildefonso	hi chibaguy!	[02:53]
chibaguy	hi guys i read the log. ildefonso, there are some pages about themes, etc. at http://themes.tikiwiki.org. but not complete or up-to-date.	[02:53]
ildefonso	thanks! I already read some of these, that's what got me started.	[02:55]
chibaguy	ok	[02:58]
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ildefonso	"polom" sounds similar to the name of one of the characters of the game Final Fantasy IV , I think... a couple of kids, Palom y Polom? or was it Porom... I'm not sure. yeah, Palom and Porom :)	[03:01]
luciash	or drinking the Porron, the catalan national sport ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porron	[03:07]
chibaguy	luciash, you drank from a porron?	[03:10]
luciash	chibaguy: sure	[03:11]
chibaguy	:-)	[03:13]
luciash	but actually it is what Tom Bombadil says when entering room (in french at least ;))	[03:13]
ildefonso	mmmm.... yes, I think it indeed is, I read the book long time ago, but I think that it is what he said.	[03:15]
luciash	:) that's the origin and we started to use it here too as someone introduced it in this channel ;) long time ago ;)	[03:16]
ildefonso	intersting.....	[03:17]
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chibaguy	dog walking time. bbl.	[03:35]
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luciash	what is difference between wiki page remove, rollback and undo ? :-p	[04:12]
ildefonso	I think that remove should remove all of the pages versions.... or maybe not?, anyway, remove would, at least, make the current version "unavailable". but... rollback and undo? maybe related to "minor changes" (undo), and rollback related to page versions.... dunno.	[04:19]
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chibaguy	re	[04:45]
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ildefonso	chibaguy : I got another problem, take a look here: http://64.20.63.204/tw/tiki-index.php down, at the end of the wiki text, there is a hr, and I can't find where is it coming from.... it seems to be part of the wiki module, but.... how to get rid of it???	[05:01]
chibaguy	what tiki version is this?	[05:03]
ildefonso	3.3	[05:06]
chibaguy	There's a <hr style="clear:both; height:0px;"/> in templates/tiki-show_page.tpl (line 177 in tiki 3.2 anyway)	[05:07]
ildefonso	yeah, that would be the one....	[05:08]
chibaguy	comment says: Information below the wiki content must not overlap the wiki content that could contain floated elements	[05:08]
ildefonso	duh... and I was thinking that templates would go unchanged.... no luck :(	[05:08]
chibaguy	I don't know why 0px height hr is displaying. but anyway you could try removing it.	[05:09]
ildefonso	yeah... I don't know either why it is showing ... which browser are you using?	[05:09]
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ildefonso	I tried with iceweasel (firefox) and konqueror: both show it.	[05:10]
chibaguy	yeah, I'm seeing it in opera too	[05:11]
ildefonso	so.... override template, or replacing template, what do you suggest?	[05:12]
chibaguy	for a quick fix, you could edit that file and give it a color and background-color that matches your page background, I think. I'm not sure if removing it would be good. it was put there to prevent floats from overlapping.	[05:14]
macnific	I do not find anything about wiki rollback. What does it really mean? Which function is it?	[05:15]
chibaguy	well, the safe way would be to duplicate that file and put the copy in templates/styles/quatro/ macnific, rollback means revert the wiki page to the earlier version. ildefonso: and do the edit in that file.	[05:15]
ildefonso	doing so :)	[05:17]
macnific	tks	[05:17]
chibaguy	ildefonso: in tiki 4, that hr has a class, so it can be styled with the theme css file.	[05:17]
ildefonso	mmmm... maybe I should just add a class to that hr.	[05:17]
macnific	how long does a bug report can have a feedback? yesterday I did my first bug report. I want to help with translation into Portuguese language but I am getting a error that prevents me to continue the work.	[05:18]
chibaguy	ildefonso: you could do that instead of inline.	[05:18]
ildefonso	what is the name of the class in tw4?	[05:19]
chibaguy	macnific: you are getting an error with the bug reporting? ildefonso: hr.hrwikibottom	[05:19]
ildefonso	ok, using the same here.	[05:19]
chibaguy	ok macnific: or are you getting an error with your tiki site?	[05:20]
macnific	Yes I am I already reported it to dev. I mean tw dev site	[05:21]
chibaguy	there's no particular time for bug report feedback. it depends on if people have time to check it out, how many people are affected by the bug, etc.	[05:25]
ildefonso	the new template should go to : styles/<theme_name>/templates ?? oh, I saw it... templates/styles/quatro.... sorry :( I'm falling asleep now.... I should go to sleep.	[05:25]
chibaguy	ok macnific, you got an error trying to save a page edit at doc.tikiwiki.org?	[05:28]
macnific	Yes...	[05:32]
ildefonso	ok, done! thanks a lot chibaguy!	[05:33]
chibaguy	yay, great. :-)	[05:33]
ildefonso	well, going to sleep now :)	[05:34]
chibaguy	ok, cya later.	[05:34]
macnific	after created the translation page (for Portuguese) I started translation and at the moment to save (partial translation) the bottom did not work. The preview was not working too. Then I clicke and punnn, Worked. Then saw the preview of the translation edition. then the button changed to SAVE. And when I clicked it, Pummm the error. I sent the error attached to the bug report	[05:35]
chibaguy	macnific: I'll check with other people about their experience editing at doc.tw.o also, if it's every page, or just in some cases, etc. I have had some strange experiences at themes.tw.o, too, when editing pages since the update to tiki 4, but I think things are ok now. anyway, if you want to keep a local copy of translations and then copy them to the site when editing is bug-free, that'd be good. I hope it will be fixed quickly.	[05:36]
macnific	Sure. I am doing that... The point is I miss preview to see if the links I do to other Portuguese (not English) links.	[05:40]
chibaguy	ah, right.	[05:42]
coaboa	Hello and Good Morning Chibaguy: I noticed that you updated the themes @ themes.tw.org. They work now perfectly. There jst one thing you shod check. Everything is fien when using the rightsided theme selector. But clicking the link in front of the download link mess up the display. I suggest to remove the link or fix it as this may irritate some visitors. The effect is in firefox/ie when starting from default page and clicking directly the above mentioned link before using the theme selector.	[05:56]
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chibaguy	ok, thanks, coaboa. I'll check it out.	[06:03]
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chibaguy	hm, object-level theme assignment isn't working right. I thought that was fixed.	[06:08]
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chibaguy	ok, I deleted all the object- and category-level theme assignments at themes.tw.o, until those work again. :-/ the stylesheet gets loaded, but the theme's templates don't.	[06:23]
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coaboa	As i see plans to release 5.0 (soon) I am a little concerned about reliability of tikiwiki. Just a thought.	[06:31]
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chibaguy	the release schedule does seem a little aggressive, but I'm hoping the bug fixing will keep up.	[06:42]
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chibaguy	the NY tikifest is supposed to be focused on bug fixing.	[06:42]
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xavi	morning... xavi is testing the changi\|away tiki 3.3 (LTS) deb package with an Ubuntu LTS iso xavi is checking "reliability" in the dictionary, while contrasting it with the LTS concept	[06:45]
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jcyrisse	howdy do am i correct in that google friend connect social bar will not work in the custom tiki header area? the javascript would be removed?	[06:48]
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chibaguy	jcyrisse: why don't you try it with {literal} {/literal} tags around the script tags?	[06:58]
jcyrisse	heh....do you mean that literally? lol k...so just enclose the script within those tags?	[06:59]
chibaguy	:-\| :-) yes	[06:59]
jcyrisse	your name should be "funnyguy" alrighty...will give that a go....BTW....you guys are doing a SUPER job with TW	[07:00]
chibaguy	thanks chibaguy says on behalf of all the contributors, etc.	[07:00]
jcyrisse	is there a way to convert an existing image gallery into the file gallery as images? without renaming all the captions, etc? i downloaded the files to my local computer, in case i have to just upload them but i was hoping not to have to recategorize	[07:02]
chibaguy	there's supposed to be a function to convert an image gallery to a file gallery (i guess make a new file gallery and import the images of an image gallery), but it isn't done so far. as far as I know.	[07:08]
jcyrisse	ok...i will hold off then i have over 400 images :)	[07:10]
chibaguy	yeah, that'd take a while.	[07:11]
jcyrisse	heh...yup	[07:11]
xavi	xavi is also looking forward for such function to migrate images from img gals to file gals xavi is also looking forward for a function in file galleries to switch between storage on disk and in db (as it is for image galleries)	[07:13]
jcyrisse	oh...would be nice....kinda a must for me :) back to my other question, should i add this area between the {literal} tags, in the custom HTML area or the custom site header? WOOT!!! fantastic....that did the trick that is pretty slick is that the only place i use those literal tags?	[07:17]
chibaguy	jcyrisse: if you ever need to edit a template (.tpl file), they're used there also. also for scripts in modules.	[07:28]
jcyrisse	so those tags go around the script instead of {JS}?	[07:30]
chibaguy	i haven't used {JS} so don't know about that.	[07:31]
jcyrisse	okies	[07:34]
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xavi	wohoooo. edu.tw.o ressurrected! :-) thanks to ohertel! chibaguy ^ : we are using Tiki 3.x (LTS) at http://edu.tikiwiki.org nowadays, and the AulaWiki Mod was updated to latest version (which works on Tiki 3.x without major issues). The theme styles is quite "quick & dirty" patched thenews.css that I did many months ago chibaguy: I'd like your opinion as theme expert on whether the basic workspaces.css can be easily improved somehow right now it's using thenews.css as imported. I guess we could come back to using Tikipedia_3.css as the main style to import in workspaces.css however, templates (tpl) files might not be fully upated to tiki 3 (in terms of display, I mean)	[08:11]
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xavi	luciash ^	[08:26]
chibaguy	xavi, sorry, was away.	[08:31]
xavi	np :-) xavi can't believe it yet (edu.tw.o resurrected!!! :-) )	[08:31]
chibaguy	iirc, some of the special templates aren't really needed. (looking at edu.tw.o's modules, for example)	[08:32]
xavi	yes and probably the one for showing pages I'll see if I can edit them through tiki interface (I don't have ssh nor ftp access to the server)	[08:36]
chibaguy	probably as few tpls as possible should be kept. and the css identified in whatever tpls are needed for workspaces to function, and then rules for them added to whatever theme you want to use.	[08:38]
xavi	I agree	[08:39]
chibaguy	it's kind of a handicap that you can't directly change the files.	[08:39]
xavi	another quick question: I've been able to install andreas08_tiki_3 through mods interface from that tiki, but I can't with tikipedia_tiki_3 (impossible to copy a file) "kind of handicap": yes, I know... :-) "regression" I would say :-) and the file with problems to be copied (tikipedia_3) is.... xavi is checking again	[08:41]
chibaguy	the impossible to copy error usually means a path in the theme's package info file doesn't match the actual file paths. (path wrong or file missing)	[08:43]
xavi	themes/tikipedia_tiki_3/styles/tikipedia/arrows-6d819.png yes, I guess so (that's the most common source for this type of error installing mods, afaik)	[08:43]
chibaguy	ok, I'll check.	[08:44]
xavi	thanks	[08:44]
chibaguy	ok, fixed and committed.	[08:48]
xavi	thanks! :-)	[08:48]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23551 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-tikipedia_tiki_3.info.txt: [FIX] Wrong file name caused "impossible to copy" error.	[08:48]
xavi	so next question, I updated the modules.tpl from that theme with the modules.tpl content from the default template. Nowadays, I lost the top bar for those modules (horizontal degraded bar on top) so, I guess that the top bar should be added to the css somehow, instead of at the tpl level (as I understand that it might have been the case - I didn't look at the module.tpl code yet, just replaced the shole thing)	[08:49]
chibaguy	you mean the blue background image?	[08:51]
jcyrisse	night all...thanks for the help...as always	[08:52]
chibaguy	cya later jcyrisse	[08:52]
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xavi	chibaguy: yes it seems to be degrada.gif ok, workspaces theme has it defined as: div.box-title { background-image: url(../images/workspaces/degrada.gif); } what's the new syntax for module box-title (or equivalent)? xavi presumes that this might be written somewhere....	[08:55]
chibaguy	oh, right. module titles were changed from div.box-title to h3.box-title in tiki 3. so changing the stylesheet accordingly will bring back the image.	[08:58]
xavi	ok, that's easy :-) thanks ok, got it :-) however, nowadays, it doesn't cover the full width of the module is there anything missing that I need to add? s/nowadays/currently ok, customized showpage also overwritten by default showpage tpl (buttons in bottom bar came back ) :-)	[08:59]
chibaguy	thenews.css has a padding:0 property for h3.box-title. that's restricting the coverage of the background image.	[09:08]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r23552 10/mods/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Deleted outdated .tpl files from the Mod so that default (and updated ones from each Tiki version) are used instead.	[09:13]
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xavi	ok chibaguy thanks. I'll test with negative values for padding	[09:15]
chibaguy	well, I'd try positive values if you want to expand the h3 'box'.	[09:17]
xavi	ah, ok, sorry :-) (css newbie still here :-) )	[09:18]
	ok, got it (also margin left was needed to be set from 1em to 0em slow learner, but moving forward...	[09:25]
chibaguy	same as me :-)	[09:27]
xavi	:-)	[09:27]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r23553 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/styles/workspaces/ (tiki-user_information.tpl tiki-user_preferences.tpl): [FIX] customized tiki-user_information and tiki-user_preferences preferences updated to Tiki 3	[09:55]
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xavi	wohooo, printing structures in a single click from a workspace in Tiki3 is back working! : http://edu.tikiwiki.org/tiki-workspaces_view_structure.php?print=4 xavi noticed still a few img url's to fix, and some more code to fix, but at least, it's back showing most of the stuff again	[10:23]
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chibaguy	good job, xavi :-)	[10:44]
xavi	thanks! (I'm so excited to have all this back working on LTS... :-) ) changi\|away and changi\|home ? changi, re the email I sent you a few hours ago, after installing the required packages previously, the tikiwiki_X.deb package seems to go through Gdebi without any more problems (so far)	[10:45]
luciash	>learn pm as private message	[10:49]
Sug4r`	OK, here we go!	[10:49]
xavi	>learn toctoc as equivalent message to polom but in another l10n-tiki-slang	[10:50]
Sug4r`	OK, here we go!	[10:50]
xavi	xavi is configuring tiki through the dbconfig-common (from the deb package): yay! :-)	[10:51]
luciash	>learn l10n as localization	[10:53]
Sug4r`	OK, here we go!	[10:53]
xavi	btw, luciash, did you succeed with the .deb package?	[11:00]
luciash	xavi: nope, read my email to changi and you	[11:03]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r23554 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/styles/workspaces.css: [FIX] A few changes for the module box header to display properly in Tiki 3 tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r23555 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/tiki-workspaces_print.tpl: [FIX]Fix printing of pages from structures from a workspace in a single click	[11:13]
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chibaguy	With pretty tracker, tracker info can be displayed on a wiki page, but can the info be edited on the same page? luciash, did you have a method for that?	[12:29]
luciash	yes	[12:31]
macnific	Hi everybody. Morning...	[12:31]
luciash	you can either put tracker plugin on the same page or hide it or display in *box hi macnific	[12:31]
chibaguy	ah, ok, thanks, I'll try that.	[12:32]
luciash	also you can display another page without columns and header in *box linking to the tiki-index_p.php	[12:34]
macnific	I will report this bug right now for the 3D browser dev team here is a report. 3D is not working properly at Safari 4.0.3 at Mac OS 10.5.8. I see the java cup inside the window. Then the java star and then nothing else the window becomes white. No image at atll.	[12:35]
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macnific	By the way. I always have a little difficulty to rate bug report (-2 -1 0 1 2). It would be great a small legend inside the page. Would be rating in the extreme both sides something like: -2 = not really so important / 2 very important to me?	[12:41]
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chibaguy	macnific, the last time I checked, the 3d browser wasn't working in Windows either, but I haven't tried recently.	[12:54]
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chibaguy	nope. just an empty white box, tried in branch 4.x with windows xp and firefox.	[13:00]
luciash	sometimes, depending on amount of pages you have, one needed to wait longer time	[13:03]
chibaguy	ok, I'll try again. do you find that it works?	[13:04]
luciash	i don't, i just know it happened i mean i am not trying currently	[13:04]
chibaguy	seems broken now.	[13:07]
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coaboa	just tested 3d browser too. Firefox	[13:15]
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coaboa	its broken. looking sad :-(	[13:16]
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brankom	Yo	[13:18]
chibaguy	it was cool seeing wiki pages as a molecule, true...	[13:18]
brankom	Is it possible to have the fancytable take less space than full width? Or is it just the style I selected?	[13:18]
luciash	hopefully one day we replace it with http://thejit.org/ brankom: try width param brankom: or wrap it in DIV plugin with width param	[13:18]
brankom	luciash: Can width do something like "fit content"? Nope, width doesn't work with that one.	[13:21]
luciash	huh ? just try width="50%" or width="200"	[13:22]
brankom	That doesn't seem to work with {fancytable} I'll try the div. But I was wondering if it can resize itself automatically somehow.	[13:22]
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luciash	brankom: yes, probably the theme sets it width to 100%	[13:25]
chibaguy	brankom, it's got a 100% wide default, so you need to override it some way. it's in css/layout.css (table.normal)	[13:25]
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brankom	O' Sorry	[13:26]
luciash	brankom: you can do something like .fancytable {width: auto !important} in your custom.css	[13:26]
brankom	I'm not too good with css, but if I remove the '100%', will it do fitting? I see. Ah, 'auto' - thanks :)	[13:26]
xavi	chibaguy and luciash, dod you have any luck with banners in top zone in Tiki 3.x? I have thenm working on side column, but not in header zone (in 3.3)	[13:27]
chibaguy	xavi, same for me, iirc.	[13:28]
luciash	does it need {wiki} now ? around as it became a "plugin" ?	[13:28]
chibaguy	brankom: if you remove the 100% wide for table.normal in layout.css, many tables will be affected.	[13:29]
brankom	Gotta love Firebug :)	[13:29]
luciash	xavi, try	[13:29]
brankom	chibaguy: Yes, I know. I'll let it as it is atm, looks prettier in general :) It'd be a nifty fiture to introduce width parameter to tables, though.	[13:30]
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xavi	mmm, luciash, I was trying (need) for images, they either are just provided with the url of the image, or uploaded to tiki	[13:31]
mike_tnt	one question here, how can I get in php programming code the calendar id of a user?	[13:31]
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xavi	there no room for {wiki} for the option "image" in banner type	[13:31]
luciash	xavi: huh ? i mean {banner zone=1}	[13:33]
xavi	I mean from here: tiki-edit_banner.php?bannerId=1	[13:33]
luciash	i mean {wiki}{banner zone=1}{/wiki} in custom code area	[13:33]
chibaguy	bbl	[13:34]
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xavi	trying no change for me	[13:36]
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xavi	using twist.css and tiki 3.3 luciash: and no change if using {wiki}{banner Id=1 }{/wiki} or {wiki}{banner zone=HEaderZone }{/wiki} HeaderZone, I mean	[13:38]
luciash	xavi: lemme try	[13:41]
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luciash	xavi, what image method you use ? use image or use image generated by URL ?	[13:44]
xavi	:-) both	[13:44]
luciash	ok	[13:44]
xavi	none works for me	[13:44]
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luciash	works for me xavi: i just put {banner zone='xavi'} on Admin → Site Ads	[13:46]
xavi	ah, ok, trying...	[13:48]
luciash	i see no problem there	[13:50]
xavi	ok, I have {banner zone='HeaderZone'} and not image shown will test with strasa	[13:50]
luciash	it works in custom code on l&f too hmm, maybe it's the theme, yes make sure you don't have obsolete templates/styles/twist/tiki-site_header.tpl or something	[13:52]
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xavi	luci, I can't get it to work either with strasa I'll double check that I deleted cached tpl's	[14:04]
luciash	xavi: hum, weird, i must say my 3.3 proposed test is not the freshest one xavi: lemme try to svn up it if it fails then	[14:07]
xavi	I?m running 3.3 (as released), not svn nor proposed	[14:08]
luciash	ah, ok, i cannot guarante then, i have no 3.3 from tarball now i think	[14:11]
xavi	where are the uploaded images from banners stored?	[14:11]
luciash	xavi: maybe tha site-ads depend on something else ? site-logo ?	[14:12]
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luciash	have you tried to put it to top bar custom code like me ? fastest way i can help is if you provide me with some login there ;) guessing is slow process ;)	[14:14]
chibaguy	what I tried before was using 'site ads and banners'.	[14:15]
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luciash	chibaguy: you got the same problem ?	[14:16]
chibaguy	I haven't tried recently, but did back around 3.0 release time maybe. and then, site ads and banners didn't work, iirc. i haven't tried with custom code.	[14:16]
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luciash	chibaguy: well, it seems to work in proposed 3.x branch now	[14:24]
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chibaguy	yeah, I just tried in branch 4.x and at least I see some text in the ad location. by inputting on tiki-admin.php?page=ads and works fine getting the banner info from tiki-list_banners.php. :-)	[14:26]
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miles	anyone home?	[14:37]
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macnific	anybody to give me an idea about fixing time. Is there any table we could have a notion about time spent to fix bugs by their importance level. For example an Urgent bug (of course it will depend of the bug itself) but does it take 1 minute, 1 hours, 1 day, 1 weeek to be fixed according to the volume of developers available?	[14:39]
miles	think it's just you and me, all is quiet	[14:40]
macnific	well. in terms of chat, but now working	[14:40]
chibaguy	macnific, i think there are too many variables for that to work.	[14:40]
macnific	That is because I made some bug reports and I am curious about feedback average time today.	[14:40]
chibaguy	there's no pattern, probably.	[14:41]
macnific	I don't really need precision, but some idea according to the experience until today. an average? 1 year? maximum, at least	[14:41]
chibaguy	well, 'importance' is subjective. maybe somebody really needs something to work that few people use, etc.	[14:42]
miles	Sorry if this isnt the place to ask, I've a quick question I cant answer from the documentation nor google	[14:42]
macnific	Hi Miles. Yes. here is a place to ask sometimes you will find fast answer, sometimes not. Depend on people activities. too much work for all of us. please ask your questions again. Let me see if I can do something for you	[14:42]
chibaguy	time-to-fix probably depends on how central the feature is (how many people use it regularly) and how important it is in the view of the developers who can fix it.	[14:43]
macnific	but lest imagine it is urgent. How fast an urgent bug is fixed today?	[14:43]
chibaguy	urgent to whom?	[14:43]
macnific	to dev team	[14:43]
chibaguy	then in a matter of minutes or hours, depending on the problem, maybe.	[14:44]
macnific	if there is level of classification it means it is used later on, isn't it? OK. the fastest is, let's say 5 minuts, right? so the maximum, not more than 1 decade? hehehe ;)	[14:44]
luciash	xavi: got it, it is a bit stupid mistake of you ;)	[14:44]
xavi	:-)	[14:45]
chibaguy	when we hit the decade mark, we'll know. :-)	[14:45]
luciash	xavi: you have maxClicks set to 0	[14:45]
miles	cool. I've just enabled banners using a flash swf, things are 90% there, only problem I have is the url it goes to http://www.openkontrol.org/wiki/text I see in banner admin it states Note: To be managed with tiki , your flash banner link should be: banner_click.php?id=1&url=text , i'm unsure what to stick where	[14:45]
macnific	what xavi doing stupid mistake... No, must not be Xavi. hahah ;)	[14:45]
xavi	:-) everybody makes mistakes (me many)	[14:45]
macnific	of course, when you are ill or sick. hahaha ;)	[14:46]
chibaguy	miles, so what should replace 'text'?	[14:46]
miles	yes I guess so, do I add something to the flash mvie or hack the php file	[14:47]
chibaguy	that shouldn't be needed. not if the feature is working correctly.	[14:48]
macnific	sorry miles. I am more a tester and a translator, an organizer, a motivator. Not too much code Yet, sorry.	[14:48]
miles	hehehe no problem	[14:49]
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miles	sorry I dont understand i'm now talking to bots :)	[14:52]
chibaguy	ah, miles, I think when you create the flash banner, you need to specify a url for it, right? when making the .swf that it directs to when clicked	[14:54]
brankom	What was the '/' character for?	[14:54]
miles	ah, sort of solved it, the docs gave an example and used "text" as the url hence it trying to find a page called that	[14:55]
chibaguy	i don't mean on tiki's banner admin page, I mean when making the .swf file.	[14:55]
miles	the swf has no link in it, just a movie	[14:55]
chibaguy	I don't do much with flash, but I went to http://www.banner-generator.net/en/flash-bannergenerator.html to make a flash banner to test and it required a url to go to when the banner is clicked.	[14:56]
miles	got it better, I want to just send it back to the home page, it's not an advert mmore am animated heeader	[14:56]
chibaguy	so I think you need to use 'banner_click.php?id=0&url=http://mybannerdestination.com' instead of just 'http://mybannerdestination.com' if you want tiki to track the clicks, etc. then in that case, i guess you can just use index.php. oh, no click-to url, ok.	[14:57]
miles	just tried, same result, in chrome it opens a new window, in ie it does nothing	[14:59]
chibaguy	hehe, my instant flash banner works, linking to tikiwiki.org.	[14:59]
miles	its bizzar because if you hover over it in ie it shows the address but wont "click"	[15:00]
chibaguy	miles, have you tried the flash file in a normal HTML page?	[15:02]
miles	no, but you give me an idea, having the thing do nothing at all would also be ok mmmm, no joy, ie ok, other two open new blank windows just getting dreamweaver on the go to try	[15:03]
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chibaguy	I used that free-flash-banner url again to make another banner, this time with the url that tiki's create banner page says to use, and it does count the clicks and load the linked-to page. so works perfectly. (this is in opera that I'm testing.)	[15:05]
miles	<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0" width="1000" height="100"><param name="movie" value="http://www.openkontrol.org/wiki/banner.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><embed src="http://www.openkontrol.org/wiki/banner.swf" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.mac oh that was messy	[15:06]
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brian_	hello i have a problem with AuthPAM	[15:07]
chibaguy	miles, you can use http://pastebin.com/ to show code.	[15:08]
brian_	i configured everything like shown here http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PAM+authentication	[15:08]
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brian_	and i can run the php function posix_getpwnam successfully but tikiwiki always says: "Invalid password" any suggestions?	[15:09]
bobonthenet	!help	[15:09]
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xavi	bbl (lunch)	[15:12]
miles	chibaguy, can I try what you are doing, mine isnt happy	[15:14]
chibaguy	did you just input the location of the swf file? on tiki-edit_banner.php? (no need to bother with HTML code.)	[15:14]
miles	if I put in [x] Use flash box this http://www.openkontrol.org/wiki/banner.swf along with 1000 & 100 & 8.0.0 it only works occasionally I get anerror (will try now)	[15:17]
chibaguy	I don't know if it makes a difference, but I just used a relative url: myNewBanner.swf (it's in the root directory).	[15:19]
miles	error top left is flash player not available,	[15:19]
chibaguy	what tiki version are you using?	[15:19]
miles	3.3 php 5.2.11 tried banner.swf on it's own same error, strange thing is it will work very occasionally	[15:20]
chibaguy	i recall people reporting that error but I'm not sure which version. in my tiki branch 4 test here, it's working fine, a dozen refreshes or so and no problems.	[15:22]
miles	it generates in the use text box all that code I pasted you, that works just fine except for the url link	[15:22]
chibaguy	i should test in 3.3 too, I guess.	[15:24]
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chibaguy	Heh, miles, I get the "Flash player not available " error in Tiki 3.3. same browser as in my tiki 4 test.	[15:30]
miles	just on the phone	[15:31]
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miles	sorry about that so it's 3.3 thats the issue do you have any idea what code between <object> tags is being used?	[15:36]
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chibaguy	I don't have a branch 3 test site right now, so can't check. but seems like if it can be fixed based on what's working in tiki 4, it should be. I'm not sure what the policy is for changes in 3.x branch, now that 4 is out.	[15:59]
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miles	I've just stuck in _self so that on ie it does nothing and on others it goes back to the home page	[16:02]
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miles	i used fantastico to install 3.3 I'd have to manually do v4, would it be easy? sorry to say I'm a windoze server bod so linux i'm always scared of :)	[16:03]
chibaguy	Upgrading is the same either way, as far as I know. Just copy the new files over the old ones and run tiki-install.php.	[16:09]
miles	I've altered tikinewt significantly in the css, would I just copy that back over the top once upgraded?	[16:12]
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miles	other option might be just to prevent a link at all, any idea which php file the call is in?	[16:15]
chibaguy	miles, tikinewt.css has changed between tiki 3 and 4, so it'd be good to try to merge your changed version and the tiki 4 version.	[16:25]
xavi	chibaguy: upgrading tips for people asking on irc . I would suggest to point them to the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade because it's not so simple	[16:25]
chibaguy	good idea.	[16:25]
xavi	it's simple, but no so much depending on some cases... I'm just talking after reading your notes in themes.tw.o about stylesheet changes between 2 & 3 and 3 & 4 I was the first one to do upgrades by copying new files over the old ones... .. but that yeilds some unexpected issues in some cases... (specially with theme files : tpl's, etc.)	[16:25]
miles	ooooooooooooooh! any chance we could preventing linking then?	[16:28]
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chibaguy	miles, what do you mean?	[16:37]
miles	to modify the code so that a link isnt available, it does nothing, I can put a homepage link in the top left module instead	[16:39]
chibaguy	The link in my banner was part of the .swf file. I guess you could do another flash file without a link.	[16:41]
miles	no it's tiki doing the link in, the swf has no link linking	[16:42]
chibaguy	ok, i've got to do another test.	[16:44]
miles	you can try the link too http://www.openkontrol.org/wiki/tiki-index.php	[16:44]
chibaguy	works fine in opera anyway	[16:47]
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miles	my site or yours	[16:50]
chibaguy	yours at my site, I made another of those free banners and this time didn't input a url. when the banner loads on my tiki site, clicking on it does nothing. (tiki 4.x) I mean I didn't input a url when making the .swf file. and no url was input on the tiki edit banner page. be back later. gotta take the dog out.	[16:51]
miles	cool	[16:54]
luciash_	hmm, fresh new install of Tiki 4.0 - users added to Admins group do not seem to get admin permissions	[16:56]
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luciash_	is it a known issue ?	[16:59]
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luciash	even though that Admins group has the tiki_p_admin perm even if i set the Admins group for that user as default :-(	[17:00]
xavi	not know issue to me, at least	[17:04]
luciash	or is it just the Admin submenu ???	[17:04]
xavi	however, it works for me, luciash	[17:04]
luciash	weird	[17:04]
xavi	you can try with your user luci in that site I gave you an account for the CC	[17:05]
luciash	it seems i have admin rights but i don't see the Admin menu on left, only the Wiki part	[17:05]
xavi	you've been granted admin rights through assigning you to the Admin group reload ? (clean caches?) logout and login? sing a magical song?...	[17:05]
luciash	grmbl, it was the tiki cache :-p	[17:06]
xavi	xavi running out of ideas :-)	[17:06]
luciash	ok, "fixed" :)	[17:06]
xavi	:-)	[17:06]
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chibaguy	re	[17:17]
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luciash	a pity interactive translation is broken on menu links :(	[17:30]
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lphuberdeau	funny, trying to get it to work right now getting it to work anywhere would be good enough for me	[17:34]
luciash	lphuberdeau: it works, just borks links in menus	[17:36]
lphuberdeau	actually, it borks quite a lot of things everywhere (just figured out how to enable it)	[17:36]
chibaguy	hey lphuberdeau, good to 'see' you :-)	[17:37]
lphuberdeau	certainly does not work in strasa	[17:38]
luciash	yes, quite a lot on links lphuberdeau: hmm, darn, you are right, even on simple text, after hitting the Submit button it doesn't store the translation :( it's sadly completely broken	[17:38]
lphuberdeau	oh, just the UI being messed up beyond understanding for me	[17:41]
luciash	it worked in around 2.x or something it was pretty useful	[17:41]
lphuberdeau	I guess I'll fix it today	[17:41]
luciash	but not this one in 4.0 that would be coool	[17:41]
lphuberdeau	need to upstream stuff to it, so I guess having it working is part of the deal	[17:41]
luciash	ok :)	[17:42]
lphuberdeau	but I only work on trunk	[17:42]
luciash	well, good to have it in 5.0 at least	[17:42]
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luciash	lphuberdeau: i think it would generate little "translate" icon after the string and not a part of the link, but first it will be nice if it will work again *it would be better to	[17:44]
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xavi	mmm, db error in group inclusion (tiki 3.3)	[17:56]
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xavi	aha, but in fact the group was renamed indeed... I wonder why the db error report then...	[18:02]
lphuberdeau	looks like I almost have to rewrite the whole thing	[18:02]
luciash	hahahah the whole thing ? really ? ;)	[18:02]
xavi	hi lphuberdeau: great that you have to fix (sorry to hear rewrite) the interactive translation feature	[18:02]
luciash	luciash looks forward lph rewrites the whole tiki ;)	[18:03]
xavi	I thought it was just me who couldn't make it work years ago	[18:03]
lphuberdeau	it's broken out of repair, and solving the issues implies opening XSS attacks... flawed design :(	[18:03]
xavi	the importance of a good design...	[18:04]
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luciash	yep, it was too quick implemented and too quick orphaned feature	[18:04]
lphuberdeau	luckily, we're in a new millennium and there are easier ways to do it	[18:05]
xavi	:-) thanks to good designers who know about them :-)	[18:05]
chibaguy	time to sleep. cya later.	[18:07]
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xavi	cya	[18:08]
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luciash	do we have global search and replace ? for wiki pages content at least	[18:11]
miles	anyone know the default amount of text that can be posted, just tried a pile of code and it gave me a permission denied error	[18:16]
jcyrisse	does anyone know if favicon.ico works in a safari browser? miles: in a page?	[18:17]
miles	yes	[18:19]
jcyrisse	well, i am not an expert...my disclaimer....but i think there is a post max setting in php.ini file that you can modify	[18:19]
miles	code was only 374 lines	[18:20]
jcyrisse	well, not sure then...	[18:21]
miles	something strange, some code I already posted was longer i get this Forbidden You don't have permission to access /wiki/tiki-editpage.php on this server Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.	[18:24]
jcyrisse	well, either a permissions setting on your site or on server. but somebody else with more knowledge gonna have to come to your rescue :)	[18:28]
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xavi	miles: about max size in wiki pages, I recall years ago some info in doc.tw.o/faqs . Feel free to search there	[18:37]
miles	mmm claims 16mb in 1.10 and above, this is only 11,668 bytes	[18:46]
xavi	see you all	[18:51]
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jcyrisse	bye ok...got my icon issue fixed	[19:04]
miles	this is weird, I paste in top half, fine, bottom half fine, together I get the error. I created in word a pile of text twice the size, it saves fine too, I've no explaination, I've tried paste as text as word as code, none work	[19:06]
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luciash	miles: maybe your text contains something apache mod_security doesn't like some "sensitive" text string	[19:13]
miles	well yes, but, when pasting in first hundred odd lines then the second hundred odd (deleting the first) both fine. I stopeed both times at a full line so should only be a CR inbetween ?? would you try yours? i pasted my code (no laughing) into http://pastebin.com/m16e8b095	[19:16]
luciash	hmm, no idea then, maybe try to put it in between ~np~ and ~/np~	[19:17]
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luciash	maybe there is something triggering wiki syntax parsing and it can break on some point, because it is not intended to be wiki syntax oh, it is a code ! then you put it inside {CODE()}...{CODE} ?	[19:17]
miles	tried that :(	[19:22]
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luciash	i will try to paste it in mine	[19:24]
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luciash	miles: it works for me with no problem	[19:26]
miles	grrrrrrrr, what version of tiki?	[19:27]
luciash	Tiki 3.3 proposed branch	[19:27]
miles	oh, me too	[19:27]
luciash	in CODE plugin	[19:27]
miles	i've tried both plugin, wyswig and manually	[19:28]
luciash	what ?	[19:28]
miles	every way I can think of :( I dont know why time for dinner, back on monday, thankyou for your help	[19:29]
luciash	np, i hope you find out soon	[19:31]
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luciash	hmm, in strasa the login bar is stuck even when i disable it on Admin → L&F is it known issue ? in Tiki 4	[20:52]
lphuberdeau	luci, can you give a try to the interactive translation? as soon as my commit gets through	[20:54]
luciash	lphuberdeau: sure	[20:54]
lphuberdeau	should be slightly improved ;)	[20:55]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r23572 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [FIX] Interactive translation to work correctly. Admin panels for the non-interactive aspects may be just as broken as they were.	[20:55]
luciash	doing svn up	[20:59]
lphuberdeau	the way it works changed... when you enable it, it puts a bar up top which basically contains a checkbox when checked, anything you click will be up for translation	[21:00]
luciash	ah, ok	[21:00]
lphuberdeau	when not checked, nothing is altered this way there is no trouble with the escaping of HTML messing up everything	[21:00]
luciash	yep, good idea	[21:02]
lphuberdeau	and it even works in drop lists	[21:02]
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luciash	okay, got it set up toggled the interactive translation on but i see no checkbox on top in strasa where is it ? ah, in strasa it appears on bottom of page actually .)	[21:06]
lphuberdeau	mostly tested in tikinewt, but it should be independent did you reload? placed the css in design.css (not knowing where to put it)	[21:07]
luciash	ah, ok, ctrl+reload helps	[21:07]
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luciash	lphuberdeau: seems to work fine :)	[21:09]
lphuberdeau	good might need someone to help with the layout and colors ;)	[21:09]
luciash	it doesn't work on buttons though :-/ tried translate Today button link in calendar now or submit button on quickedit	[21:10]
lphuberdeau	yeah, looking into that	[21:12]
luciash	or clicking "Add Comment" button link under wiki page it tries to translate "Hide" instead	[21:12]
lphuberdeau	I can't do anything about that... it's just that all events should go through jquery rather than being on elements	[21:14]
luciash	yes, do you use jquery on that ?	[21:14]
lphuberdeau	I can't override something that does not listen to the rules well, that Add Comment probably has a hardcoded onclick	[21:14]
luciash	but you can use jquery to remove stuff from elements	[21:15]
lphuberdeau	for all other cases, all I have to do is prevent defaults but that one happens before	[21:15]
luciash	also i now clicked Users Map in menu to translate and it adds second input field under to translate "and"	[21:16]
lphuberdeau	it will do things like that... expected	[21:16]
luciash	but i think it works fine generally and can be of course improved thank you for working on that	[21:16]
lphuberdeau	it scans the text on the clicked element and finds all translateable strings on it which may not be the right ones, but it's quite useful in most cases because there are a lot of stupid strings like 'and' in normal text	[21:17]
luciash	heh, it doesn't allow me to translate "Once checked, click on any string to translate it." ;)	[21:18]
lphuberdeau	anyway, getting late, will finish an other day yeah, an other desired effect... the interactive translation elements are not affected, that would cause really mad interactions	[21:18]
luciash	:)	[21:19]
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ibrrorg	is there a simple syntax to enter a google map into a page (i tried using an iframe to no avail) i am using v3.1 thank you	[21:53]
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luciash	ibrrorg: try iframe wikiplugin	[22:05]
ibrrorg	going there now ok i see the code how do i use it? do i have to put it in front of each and every iframe (that'd mean thousands for me) or do i save it as a file (if so, where/and as what name and how is it 'called'?)	[22:06]
luciash	>doctwo PluginIframe	[22:10]
Sug4r`	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginIframe	[22:10]
ibrrorg	that's where i was at. i am talking about how do i implement {IFRAME(height=100,width=500, scrolling=auto, src="tiki-print.php?page=EULA")}{IFRAME} ? do i simply add the src= stuff to my ifram i want to embed?	[22:12]
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ibrrorg	or is there a simple way to simply put a map on the page like MW type of code as that's all i want to do	[22:13]
luciash	you simply put the url to your iframe in the src param	[22:13]
ibrrorg	ok thank you! always appreciate ya'll taking time for me!	[22:14]
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smallfly	hi together! i used google, looked through tiki docu, tried myself but im still getting an error. my problem: including a module in a wiki page => "An error occured in a database query!" known issue? just typed in "{MODULE(module=>some_module)}text{MODULE}" and also tried lots of other syntax versions of this. always this f*... error	[22:26]
luciash	{MODULE(module=>some_module)}{MODULE} try without the text	[22:28]
smallfly	tried. same error the error also says "INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES(?, ?, ?, ?, ?)" and INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES('module-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e-b6150477cabff4f194052bfd060de5de-000000-450000', 'pending', 'smallfly', 'wiki page', 'Industry Branches')	[22:29]
luciash	what version of Tiki ?	[22:30]
smallfly	that looks like a module name as hashcode for me good question. wait a mom	[22:30]
luciash	that looks like not completed upgrade	[22:31]
smallfly	3.2 i used the installation of my web provider didnt upgrade	[22:31]
luciash	have you upgraded your tiki database ?	[22:31]
smallfly	you want me to click the "upgrade button"?	[22:31]
luciash	does it say on Admin Home → General ?	[22:32]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23573 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: last commit for dynamic preferences on wiki admin template (149 preferences here). Hope everything is ok.	[22:32]
smallfly	admin home > general > general prefencs says 3.2 next to it a button with "Reset or upgrade your database" clicking it > tiki-install.php > message "Tiki Installer Disabled" (i know what to do to enable it, but the database will be reseted then, correct?!)	[22:33]
luciash	isn't there a warning above that your db needs upgrade ? not if you do upgrade	[22:34]
smallfly	no, no warning if i click "check for updates" it says "The following list of changes has been applied: * information Current version is up to date : 3.2 * information A new stable major release branch is available." so YOU can use modules inside your wiki pages? it isnt a bug?	[22:35]
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smallfly	by the way: im editing a file where you are the author ;) (there is the name "luciash" in the first line)	[22:37]
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smallfly	so what should i do now? what would you advise me to do? upgrade?	[22:38]
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luciash	sorry, gotta go, i just know in 3.3 it works and you have to approve every module plugin	[22:53]
smallfly	i upgraded (to 3.2) it still doesnt work how to approve? cu	[22:55]
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