#tikiwiki 2009-12-05,Sat

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Who	What	When
marclaporte	Is it normal that there are now two stars for mandatory fields in trackers in 4.x?	[00:01]
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sylvieg	marclaporte: ask xavi	[00:03]
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patrickallard	Salut, est-ce que quelqu'un saurait comment écrire dans un tpl {if $page eq "Réalisations"}{/if} pour que ça fonctionne avec l'accent é?	[00:12]
sylvieg	tpl doit etre ut8 au moins	[00:13]
patrickallard	ok	[00:13]
sylvieg	apres .. {if preg_match('/R.alisations/', $page} mais si tpl en utf8 cela deevrait marcher	[00:16]
patrickallard	ok je vais essayer la solution 2 car la 1 marche pas j'y arrive pas mais pas grave, jej vais continuer à chercher	[00:18]
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sylvieg	sinon verifie que tu as mbstrinbg dans phpinfo - sinon demande a ton hevbergeur	[00:22]
patrickallard	ok merci	[00:23]
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ndowens	is there a good site that can show how to convert html templates to tikiwiki templates	[00:43]
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ndowens	anyone	[00:46]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23681 10/branches/4.x/tiki-blog_rss.php: [FIX] Allow access to individual RSS feeds even if main Blog RSS feature is unchecked so long as individual blog RSS is enabled	[01:15]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23682 10/branches/4.x/templates/styles/strasa/tiki-view_blog.tpl: [FIX] Make sure on clicking on comments link that it scrolls down to the comments area tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23683 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-view_blog.tpl: [FIX] Make sure on clicking on comments link that it scrolls down to the comments area	[01:36]
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ibrrorg	is there anything that would cause "MySQL server has gone away" to appear about 1 in 15 times? i took a new site, migrated it to 4.0 and have updated the dbase twice now when i reload the page it goes away	[01:51]
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nkoth	is it taking long before the rror comes? maybe it exceeded the mysql timeout for a query You can change the time limit by setting the wait_timeout variable when you start mysqld. You could also find out if you have slow query logging which one it is and let us know - we would like to know. Is this a big site?	[01:58]
ibrrorg	sorry, reading on stuff...no i have maybe 5 pages how do i do what u described?	[02:01]
nkoth	ibrrorg: hmm, if you do find anything, you can file a bug at dev.tikiwiki.org http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/gone-away.html	[02:01]
ibrrorg	thank you	[02:02]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23684 10/branches/4.x/ (comments.php templates/comments.tpl): [FIX] show anonymous provided name in the preview of comment	[02:14]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23685 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/commentslib.php templates/comments.tpl): [FIX] Scroll to comments area after comments posting. Also, show proper feedback message if comment is not to appear immediately but is to be moderated so it looks ok.	[02:27]
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logging	I am trying to configure tikiwiki for initial setup, but I am in a continuous loop of requiring to login. Does anybody know what is up with this? It is tiki3 installed with fantistico.	[02:37]
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logging	I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop. I am continuously being required to log in while navigating. Does anyone know what this problem is?	[02:46]
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logging	I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop. I am continuously being required to log in while navigating. Does anyone know what this problem is?	[02:52]
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logging	!help	[03:08]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[03:08]
logging	I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop. I am continuously being required to log in while navigating. Does anyone know what this problem is?	[03:09]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r23686 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (eye.png no_eye.png): - Changed the watch icons (submitting it on trunk to see if it will pass muster there ;-))	[03:09]
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chibaguy	polom	[03:25]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23687 10/trunk/lib/ (8 files in 7 dirs): [MOD] no changes - zend recommandations	[07:24]
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mat-in	Hello community... I was going to upgrade my tiki, so i re-activated a long gone account. After login I get: Since your last visit... [toggle] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 41943040 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2959361 bytes) in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/templates_c/en-us^%%F8^F87^F8728316%%module.tpl.php on line 109 I guess, i have a theme selected that is no longer valid or something like that? ups... just read the whole headline... where do i paste errormessages then?	[10:10]
coaboa	mat-in: hello, maybe you need to increase memory limit in your php.ini (or ask your admin todo so)	[10:25]
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mat-in	uh... no, you did not understand the problem... i re-activated an account on tikiwiki.org and got this error message! I am here to tell you people to do something about it... my site is running fine (but on tiki1.99)	[10:28]
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aki	:-) I'd really appreciate help with two problems: 1. some templates in myold wiki (2.4) have been modified. I'm upgrading to 3.3. How can I automatically detect and migrate (merge) those changes?	[10:31]
mat-in	sorry, trying to upgrade an old wiki myself right now... (2.3 to... 3.? or 4.?) want to start a forum thread and ask those questions together?	[10:34]
aki	2. The directory containing tikiwiki 3.3 is clean (just unzipped), I've run install-script, only the database is old (upgraded). Take a look at: http://www.mini.pw.edu.pl/tikiwiki-3.3/tiki-index.php There seems to be some problem with toggling my menu -- what should I search for?	[10:35]
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chibaguy	polomagain I just noticed that the user information on mouseover doesn't seem to be happening. As far as I can tell, the options are turned on for it. Does anyone know about this? Ah, I see the setting in my user prefs got changed at tw.o, during an upgrade i guess, so the mouseover info is working there now. Yes, ok, working generally. Another reminder to check prefs first.	[10:38]
mat-in	how can I find the user name of the MySQL user that tiki utilises to connect to my database? there is two users for my daabase in web-admin panel	[10:45]
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mat-in	local.php... found it :)	[10:51]
aki	AFAIK problem occures if a "dynamic extended" paremater is set for menus. Why?	[10:53]
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chibaguy	aki, I don't think there's a way to "automatically" detect the changes from 2.4 to 3.3. You should read the docs on upgrading, regarding themes, if you haven't already.	[11:09]
mat-in	any recommendations for upgrading to 3.x or 4.0 besides that 3.x is more stable?	[11:10]
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chibaguy	did you read http://info.tikiwiki.org/Download ? aki, your top menu needs to be either a php layers menu or css (suckerfish) menu. I'm not sure what is happening at the site. I thought the admin page restricted the topbar menu to those two types. Well, if you have modified template files, then problems are likely. It is possible to compare template files in 2.4 and 3.3, to see what has changed. Then make those changes in your modified files.	[11:12]
mat-in	chiba: yes, i came across the page, when downloading both versions ;) but it says close to nothing about the features... both versions seem to have a lot more than 2.3 and the "full changelog" holds a lot of thechnical fixes that are not important to me.	[11:24]
chibaguy	ah, there are feature pages at doc.tikiwiki.org for each version, I believe.	[11:27]
mat-in	guess if i take the time to upgrade every uneven year, i could directly go to 4.0	[11:28]
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mat-in	sql and installation folder backup done if i do "install over existing" will it import my games, the users uploaded avatars, etc. too or will they just be around as junk files?	[11:28]
chibaguy	The games directory will still be there, but the feature has been removed. The thinking was that the games are just flash files, so a wiki page could be used instead, linking to the games. users' avatars and other uploaded things should be untouched. but you should back up everything, to be safe.	[11:34]
mat-in	yes, already did a fresh dump of the full sql database with the settings instructed in backup page and i did copy all of my installation folder to my harddrive, too guess i just have to make a wikipage + a games category then and everything else should be fine 9200 files to go	[11:37]
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mat-in	6100 files	[12:17]
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mat-in	can I save some webspace by deleting/uninstalling language packs that I do not need? (installing 4.0 rightnow)	[12:34]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23688 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (eye.png no_eye.png): rollback 23686: there is no consensus on this one + the no_eye has no transparent background	[12:38]
sylvieg	I suppose alain will be very angry with me - I do the rollback because the no_eye has no transparent background . If it had been a very good design I would have wait for other	[12:40]
chibaguy	mat-in, yes.	[12:44]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23689 10/trunk/lib/ (11 files in 9 dirs): [MOD] no changes, zend recommandations	[13:05]
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mat-in	to remove a language, i simply delete the folders under /lang/ ?	[13:20]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23690 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]remarksbox: new type error that can not be closed	[13:23]
sylvieg	mat-in yes if you want to be clean (if you still use multilingual - you perhaps have to update lang/langmapping.php	[13:26]
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mat-in	how do I do that? (well, yes, open the file and edit... something?)	[13:32]
sylvieg	yes but I am not sure it is needed	[13:37]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23691 10/trunk/ (25 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23661 to 23690	[13:49]
mat-in	got 6 SQL errors upgrading the database from 2.3 to 4.0... what to do?	[13:53]
sylvieg	depends on the errors	[13:54]
mat-in	duplicate key names and duplicate entry errors with "tiki tracker" and "tiki menu options" and "tiki transition" guess since the tables / entrys already exist, I'm fine?	[13:54]
sylvieg	duplicate is not very impoertant - probably previous bug that are tied up now	[13:55]
mat-in	will save the erroro text and have a look if it's working hmpf... now i get the erroro message " SQLSTATE[HY000] [2005] Unknown MySQL server host '127.0.0.1:3307' (3)" got to go to local.php and change something there? 4.0 does not have any local.php in it's core folder :(	[13:57]
sylvieg	no it is created by the installer	[14:02]
mat-in	(and yes: i did give the right username and password in the installer and the old file was present)	[14:02]
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mat-in	can i upload the old file? or un-lock and re-run the installer? ... the installer was able to log in and update my database... so why is it unable to connect now? looks confused found the "new" local.php file in /db/ folder... only thing changed was the db_version.	[14:02]
	may be too complicated to discuss here. I set up a topic on the help Board for it. Please have a look :-( http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=35478	[14:13]
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chibaguy	I'd like to be able to have page-specific CSS. What would people think about adding a CSS id to the body tag? But since wiki page names can have characters that aren't valid for CSS ids, maybe the page id could be used, like id="page23".	[14:15]
sylvieg	chibaguy: I got the same wish too Jyhem addes the subscetion - wondering what i did with that for wiki page	[14:16]
chibaguy	Otherwise, the page needs to categorized and a style added that way, which seems like more overhead.	[14:17]
sylvieg	added the subsection	[14:17]
chibaguy	I just see <body class="tiki_wiki_page" > now. I didn't really follow what Jyhem's changes were for.	[14:18]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pingus * r23692 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/lib/workspaces/resourceslib.php: [ENH] will return an addable resource type only if prefs feature for that type is enabled	[14:20]
sylvieg	I think you can do in tiki-iondex.php $section_class = "page $pageId" not sure about the pageId and the class will be added	[14:22]
chibaguy	$page_id, but I don't understand how you mean. this works, in the body tag, in tiki.tpl : {if $page}id="page_id_{$page_id}"{/if} then i get <body id="page_id_7" class="tiki_wiki_page" onload="tikitabs(1,50);">	[14:25]
sylvieg	very dangerous $page can be set but not $page_id	[14:27]
mat-in	mat-in stops biting fingernails and goes to get some coffee... anyone else want some?	[14:27]
chibaguy	ah, ok. I should check for $page_id ?	[14:27]
sylvieg	it is very risky... it is not a samty var what about $smarty->assign('section_class', 'page'.$info['page_id']); line 203 in tiki-idnex.php tiki-index.php	[14:33]
chibaguy	ok, that produces <body class="tiki_page7" onload="tikitabs(1,50);"> so also does the job :-) but what happened to class="tiki_wiki_page" ?	[14:35]
sylvieg	ah did jyhem replace the clas...	[14:37]
chibaguy	I don't see this in the body tag now. it would be good to either add the class to the other one or or add an id, I imagine.	[14:37]
sylvieg	ok so my idea is bad better to set page_id in the php code and to test the section	[14:42]
chibaguy	how do you mean, in the php code?	[14:48]
sylvieg	$smarty->assign('page_id', $info['page_id'); see my message also on csv about jyhem section_class	[14:50]
chibaguy	ok	[14:54]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23693 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]listpages: new option Display by default only pages in current language - a lot of people do not see that the filter is preselected	[15:01]
luciash	polom polom chibaguy: maybe it would do the job if you put jquery code in custom code head which adds the id as you need and where you need (without the need to modify or touch the tpl or php) or you need it working without js ?	[15:04]
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mat-in	no sugestions about how i get the 4.0 running with my old DB? stupid site is completely down :(	[15:24]
debelan	i`ve a problem with instalation of my tikiwiki 4.0 ... when i tri to install i wrote localhost and then i wrote my username and password for a db an then i click calidate and continue and i chose a language and when a click next , he return meinto the front page and again i must enter a usename and password and i cant continua with a instalattion yelp	[15:25]
sylvieg	mat-in put the db name... user in the new local.php and in tiki-install - upgrade your database debelan: some errors have been reported - can you go to the url yoursite.com/tiki-index.php	[15:26]
chibaguy	sorry, luciash, was afk	[15:28]
debelan	SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)	[15:28]
chibaguy	yeah, could be done that way, but I thought if there's a simple, low-overhead way to add a unique body id or class for each wiki page, that'd be nice.	[15:29]
luciash	mat-in: make sure all files were uploaded correctly	[15:30]
sylvieg	debelan: check you usrname/password to the database	[15:30]
debelan	i`ts riht i`ll chek it few times and i chnage it and againt does not work i use xampp can be in the xampp problem ?	[15:30]
luciash	chibaguy: well, just modify tiki.tpl and add something like id={$page\|regex_replace:'/[^a-z0-9]/i':'_'} if wiki page chibaguy: well, you need to add some unique id to it anyway i think, otherwise pages named Go! and Go? would get same id="Go_"	[15:34]
sylvieg	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WatchIcon I remember you had ideas...	[15:36]
luciash	sylvieg: i don't remember them already ;) sylvieg: would need to dig it out from the ml ;) >whatis ml	[15:36]
Sug4r	Error: No factoid matches that key.	[15:37]
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luciash	>learn ml as mailing list	[15:37]
Sug4r	OK, here we go!	[15:37]
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luciash	chibaguy: and id must start with letter, not number so pages 123 id="123" would not validate but you know all that ;) anyway, maybe i would re-use title... (it would apply not only on wiki pages)	[15:38]
mat-in	i got no files in the "transfer incomplete / interrupted" tab (FileZilla) and the DB settings are exactly the same as in the old installation. It was running until the update the update did work well (except the 6 errors is posted in the forum) and the new local.php contains all the old version contained (DB name, username, password, etc	[15:42]
luciash	chibaguy: and this way you could easily see with having some warning color in css what pages are missing the title yet because all would get the same id="page" ;)	[15:43]
mat-in	the database was upgraded to 2.something from 1.2	[15:43]
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luciash	mat-in: does filezilla have some "synchronize" function ? also i would try re-run the db upgrade (usually second run gives no sql errors for me)	[15:43]
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chibaguy	luciash, i was thinking of using the page id, with 'page_id_' appended.	[15:46]
luciash	mat-in: also make sure your URL path contains no spaces like http://some.tld/my tiki/ (Tiki 4.0 has a bug about that)	[15:46]
chibaguy	to avoid the problem of invalid css id names.	[15:46]
luciash	chibaguy: but isn't page_id used only when you use structures ?	[15:46]
mat-in	luciash: i can tell filezilla only to overrite older versions of a file... and try to upload again. let me try the re-upgrade	[15:47]
luciash	there are ftp clients (like fireftp firefox extension or krusader) which will tell you if your files are in sync on ftp with your local extracted dir of tiki installation	[15:48]
chibaguy	nope, every page has a page_id, it appears. anyway, i was testing on a page that's not in a structure.	[15:48]
mat-in	tiki found an existing db connection... use connection... update db... 4292 queries no errors. lock it, go to main page. error: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2005] Unknown MySQL server host '127.0.0.1:3307' (3) how can it update the DB without any trouble and then not be able to connect???	[15:48]
luciash	try localhost:3307 instead	[15:49]
mat-in	i put that in local.php file?	[15:50]
luciash	maybe there's bug in tiki with using IP yep chibaguy: but it will work only for wiki pages, ok ? chibaguy: but seems the best solution to me chibaguy: is it that what sylvie suggested to you ?	[15:50]
mat-in	Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:3307' (1) seems i changed the correct thingy but not to somethign working	[15:51]
luciash	hmm, weird, maybe it doesn't like the port number, but that would be really bad	[15:52]
mat-in	it worked with that number some hours ago and version 2.3 let me check what my host suggests?	[15:52]
chibaguy	luciash, this is what I tried earlier, in the body tag in tiki.tpl: {if $page_id}id="page_id_{$page_id}"{/if} which works	[15:52]
luciash	mat-in: maybe try without the port number still	[15:53]
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luciash	just localhost	[15:53]
mat-in	my webhost suggests: 127.0.0.1:3307 will try without the port no i get an "access denied for user blabla"... but the password is correct... I did copy + paste it ut of local.php to get into phpMyAdmin because i did not remember it	[15:55]
luciash	this is a bad bug because it disallows use of different port for mysql than the default one :( if it worked in 2.x it should work in 4.x too	[15:59]
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luciash	mat-in: can you join tw.o and report the bug in the development area then ?	[16:00]
debelan	Missing file: C:subdomainstaflibadodb/drivers/adodb-tiki.inc.php ???	[16:00]
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luciash	debelan: can you use php-pdo mysql driver on your windows server ? debelan: seems it looks for adodb driver instead but the path seems wrong to me	[16:01]
debelan	how can i found it ?	[16:01]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23694 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/prefs/wiki.php templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl): [MOD] Add this new setting to i18n admin panel, where people look when configuring multilingual site.	[16:02]
luciash	on windows you usually just allow some dll file in php.ini	[16:02]
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luciash	pdo.dll or something debelan: sorry, i am no windows man	[16:02]
debelan	and i but i work on windows	[16:03]
mat-in	luciash: i am a member for some time now. reported it in "Forum: Architecture/Installation" hours ago to no response	[16:04]
	luciash : http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=35478 (want to move that topic if this is the wrong location?)	[16:11]
chibaguy	mat-in, it isn't unusual to wait a day or so for a response in the forums. and actually for that kind of question, you're more likely to get an answer here.	[16:13]
mat-in	yeah, i know that a forum is not the fastest way to get an response, thi is why i tried here, too and I am only jumping up'n'down because it's not some "the site looks weird and nobody can dit their post" error but because it's completely down :(	[16:15]
chibaguy	what did you upgrade from, again?	[16:16]
mat-in	2.3 actualy a 1.99 that was upgraded to 2.3 several month ago	[16:17]
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chibaguy	did you check the server requirements for 4.0? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements	[16:19]
mat-in	this is about how far i read: " If you are using standard shared hosting (external link), you can assume that the requirements are met, as Tiki is designed to run on shared hosting" let me check the details as good as i can ram is ok. webspace is triple the minimum. it is a MySQL5 DB (and was already in 2.3)	[16:21]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23695 10/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] no changes - zend recommandations	[16:23]
mat-in	chibahuy: i got no idea about installed php extensions... but it seems to be an error connecting to the db anyway?	[16:23]
chibaguy	maybe you could contact the hosting company and tell them what the error message was, etc.	[16:24]
mat-in	did that. they tell me it's not their fault if some software cannot connect to the DB, they use the common standard settings :( it's just strange because it worked with the earlier version... checking if the files were uploaded correctly... looking good so far.	[16:29]
luciash	mat-in: better report it in the bug tracker in the development area (dev.tikiwiki.org)	[16:33]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r23696 10/trunk/pics/icons/palette_bg.png: [ENH] toolbars: better look for the background color palette icon (hopefully)	[16:35]
mat-in	submitted it (i hope with the right tags)	[16:43]
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mat-in	checked the uploaded files again... everything fine. db upgrade without errors. installer locked... still no connection to the db possible :(	[16:55]
chibaguy	luciash, I don't really know the purpose of regex_replace, but I need to add something to the front of the page id number to use as a css id. how does this look? : {if $page_id}id="page_{$page_id\|regex_replace:'/[^a-z0-9]/i':'_'}"{/if}	[16:55]
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chibaguy	it produces: <body id="page_7" class="tiki_wiki_page" onload="tikitabs(1,50);"> so it works, but I don't know if there's any risk or problem doing it like this. dog walk time. bbl.	[16:58]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2914 - - unable to connect to DB after upgrade to 4.0 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2914	[17:10]
chibaguy	re	[17:17]
mat-in	wb	[17:18]
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luciash	chibaguy: if page id is only number always the regex_replace is really not necessary chibaguy: just remove everything after and including the "\|"	[17:32]
chibaguy	ok thanks	[17:34]
	I wonder if this should be committed to trunk or branch 4.	[17:42]
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mat-in	if i delete all files, upload my backup, i also need to delete the upgraded db and restore the old one, right?	[17:55]
luciash	trunk mat-in: if you want rollback to previous tiki, yes	[17:58]
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mat-in	got to, if i don't want the website to be offline for a couple of days i guess :( or i could put up a stupid "ot of order for bug hunt, will be back in a day or two" sign	[17:59]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23697 10/trunk/templates/tiki.tpl: [ENH] CSS id "page_" using $page_id added to wiki page body tag to enable page-specific style.	[18:13]
luciash	chibaguy: btw, is it valid to have an id attribute on html tag ?	[18:17]
chibaguy	hmm i think so	[18:18]
luciash	chibaguy: it would be maybe better/useful because we need to set background on html tag in css to allow real full height backgrounds because it seems to me that background on body element with floated layout unfortunatelly ends right after when content is short	[18:20]
chibaguy	actually I don't know if i've ever seen an id attribute on html tag. I just assumed it's ok, but don't know.	[18:23]
luciash	i never seen it either but why not be first ;)	[18:24]
chibaguy	http://annevankesteren.nl/2003/08/html-id old page, though. was just googling.	[18:25]
luciash	interesting, 2003 "* here's couple of suggestions using a "surveillance" watch cam icon (made from scratch): "XHTML 1.0 Second Edition had been changed in this respect and allows the html element to have an id attribute." oops, sorry, the previous paste was from the wikipage ;) chibaguy: so it should be valid	[18:27]
chibaguy	yeah, should be. are you thinking of moving the page_id tag from body to html, or doing something different?	[18:29]
luciash	exactly this can you do a quick test if it makes any difference for your needs ?	[18:34]
chibaguy	well, i was just about to go to sleep ;-) i can test tomorrow tho	[18:35]
luciash	#page_id_42 body ... sure :) sleep well gary	[18:35]
chibaguy	ok thanks	[18:36]
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marclaporte	mat-in : maybe a PDO error http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=35382&topics_offset=5&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=6 try this solution too: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=35277 mat-in : Tiki4 uses PDO. By adding $api_tiki='adodb'; in db/local.php, you can revert to "old" way brb	[18:51]
mat-in	got no idea what PDO is, but will have a look at the links, thanks a lot :)	[18:56]
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mat-in	marclaporte : the DB seems to be working. The Page looks like a complete mess, but it's working. argh!	[19:00]
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mat-in	now that I am logged in I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined method RankLib::forums_ranking_last_topics() in /home/www/urpg/modules/mod-forums_last_topics.php on line 33 (it did solve the DB trouble, thanks! but the next error occured) pages looks like a complete mess and when logged in, i get this new error messag	[19:03]
marclaporte	hehe You are using 4.0?	[19:04]
mat-in	yes :-/ when reading "less stable then LTS version" i thought like "an error message now and then" not "a complete mess :-(	[19:04]
marclaporte	hehe well, it depends on the server the DB error you are getting, for most people it's fine.	[19:06]
mat-in	did not look like it was that complicated. the only thing I did not / could not check were the php add-on's installed by my provider	[19:07]
marclaporte	But on a few server configs, it's not	[19:07]
mat-in	gargh	[19:07]
marclaporte	Now, for the modules, I suggest you move to pe 4.1	[19:07]
mat-in	already had a MySQL5 db and all..	[19:07]
marclaporte	pre 4.1	[19:07]
mat-in	hmhmhm.... so i kill the 4.0 again and install the 4.1beta files?	[19:08]
marclaporte	yes, but different servers are configured in various files. yes, just copy 4.1 files over 4.0 and go to tiki-install.php to run upgrade script if you have shell access, you could install via SVN If you want to avoid all this, stay with 3.3	[19:08]
mat-in	where do i get 4.1pre?	[19:09]
marclaporte	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/download#Pre_release_packages_zip_files_	[19:09]
chealer	mat-in: the important is to get rid of old files	[19:09]
mat-in	hmhmhm. how is the upgrade situation? will I have to do an upgrade every week with 4.1pre? or will i install 3.3 and 4.1 perfect version will be out in january? chealer : i installed over the old files of 2.3. could kill everything and install 4.1 or 4.0 or 3.3 or whatever or.... argh	[19:10]
marclaporte	mat-in : I use pre 4.1 on many sites and it works very well depends which of the 1000+ features/prefs that you use mat-in : if you reliably report a bug in pre 4.1, we can try to fix mat-in : 6 main *.tikiwiki.org sites run with pre 4.1 chealer : any specific old files you have in mind?	[19:11]
mat-in	hehehe... i had several error messages with those, when reactivating my old account an "out of memory error" and several times when posting an "this and that variable cannot be empty"... but it's working, yes i got a "games" folder... that i will have to voncert to wiki pages with flash games on them anyway but we used the file gallery a lot. wiki and forum are stored in the DB in 2.3? besides that I only got a babelfish plugin installed	[19:13]
marclaporte	You use Games? wiki & forums: everything is in DB by default. You can set for attachments to be in File System	[19:15]
mat-in	yes. it's a site to work on some fantasy / scifi game (with a background wiki, development forum, downloads) and for recreation of the helpers i installed games	[19:16]
chealer	marclaporte: /home/www/urpg/modules/mod-forums_last_topics.php but there are quite a few more	[19:17]
mat-in	could be that we did something to the last posted module... i don't remember will delete the ftp files, upload 4.1 files. do i need to kill the DB too, because it's onverted to 4.0 or should i keep it and upgrade it to 4.1?	[19:17]
marclaporte	keep the DB chealer: so a 4.x installation over a previous version will still have some old modules? mat-in : before you ugprade let's get rid of old modules to identify, secDB should help	[19:19]
mat-in	where would user avatars be stored? downloading # Future 4.x (branches/4.x from SVN) (external link) MD5 (external link) how do i use secDB?	[19:20]
marclaporte	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Security+Admin so the steps 1- While in Tiki 4.0, run SecDB to identify all files to be deleted 2- After this, upgrade to Tiki 4.1pre	[19:23]
mat-in	i get the error as soon as i log in... no way to run another site	[19:26]
marclaporte	(because pre 4.1 doesn't have proper signatures and thus will misidentify files) mat-in : what about trying a fresh install of Tiki 4.0 ? or even 4.1	[19:27]
mat-in	just a fresh install and linking to the old DB?	[19:27]
marclaporte	yes of course, you have backups	[19:27]
mat-in	yes, several DB and files backups, last one made just before upgrading into chaos	[19:28]
marclaporte	Chealer: Do we have a list of files or a way to make a list of files which should be deleted? because this is inaccurate then: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade#Install_over_existing	[19:29]
mat-in	yes, that's the instructions i followed... deleted the styles as told	[19:31]
marclaporte	I re-organize this page recently. I wasn't aware leftover files could do any harm except use up disk space bbl	[19:39]
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mat-in	branch-4-x zip does not seem to be a full installation?! mat-in does not get what files to upload for 4.1pre	[19:49]
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mat-in	uploading 4.x latest now... i hope that is what you guys called 4.1 pre	[20:15]
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ibrrorg	so i have a simple image that i loaded from my file gallery {img fileId="7" rel="box[g]"} and i want to make the text wrap around it. the doc page for version 4 (which i have) doesn't have anything that looks like this. is there something i can simply add to it to make the text wrap? thank you	[20:16]
mat-in	sorry, I am just trying to install 4.x myself. can you put it in html tags?	[20:18]
ibrrorg	i suppose, but that would seem to be going back several steps and one forward so to speak. i mean if the gallery loads a set of code and you have to recode everything why use any of it? luciash helped me on the 4.0 (for pay) and is EXCELLENT in what he does BTW	[20:19]
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ibrrorg	maybe that's not possible; the doc page dealing w/the issue all looks like pre-4 and doesn't use the fileid type of stuff. it would seem (and i'm not a programmer) that there's a simple call or whatever one would put in the {...}	[20:22]
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ibrrorg	{IMG (src=img/wiki_up/...{IMG} is how the doc shows it and when juxtaposed w/4.0 from gallery there is a stark difference. maybe i'm just missing something?	[20:25]
	ah, 'imalign' is the 'call/code' i figure everyone is saying 'duh' sorry to bother sheepishly holds hat in hand	[20:31]
marclaporte	:-) The hidden feature syndrome :-)	[20:32]
ibrrorg	yeah, it is really neat, though, that ya'll have this irc deal. take me for instance: no programming experience and a hobo, yet i can ask ?'s and learn at the same time! other wikis aren't so accepting as that .	[20:34]
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ricks99	hi all :-)	[20:37]
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mat-in	yessss marclaporte : it's ... working. 4.x is kind of running and kind of looking ok :)	[21:31]
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marclaporte	polom	[21:44]
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mat-in	marclaporte : 4.x is working... besides some minor things like... the need to re-do all the goups attributes and re-installing babelfish and the chat...	[22:14]
macnific	Heloooooo Everybody!!!! Polom Polom... Yuppiii .How are you all? Let's go to the questions... ;)	[22:14]
chealer	marclaporte: yes, it apparently it will have some old modules marclaporte: I would be surprised if we had a list. it can definitely be done, though I can't throw a one-liner that does it	[22:21]
mat-in	is there a page where i can read about the "new" features from "new" menu? Kaltura? page list? mindmap?	[22:31]
chealer	marclaporte: I guess we could fix the modules issue quite easily	[22:31]
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mat-in	whenever i save settings of "new", "experimental", "global" functions, i get redirected to "developer" admin panel. is that a bug or a feature?	[22:41]
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mat-in	fav-icon is not displayed on the error page, it uses tikiwiki favicon instead argh! all wikipages names are ... lost.. messed up... gargh! ah. setting friendly URLs messed it up	[23:02]
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