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| macnific | Is there too much difference in terms of database or code creating a separated page that will give us the chance to link to it using an internal link OR keep all the information inside the wiki edition that calendar item also provide? | [01:23] |
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| luciash | polom
macnific: please, rephrase :) | [01:52] |
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| DoktorTeeth | hey I've been searching the forums for the last few hours... isn't my DB supposed to update when I upgraded to v4? I'm updating through simplescripts provided by my host site
I just finally got it to be able to log in, but various elements are wacky, and there's an error about the DB not being updated to reflect the new version | [05:22] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: most probably the provider/scripts do not handle that
DoktorTeeth: just follow the link to the Tiki installer and do the Upgrade step | [05:27] |
| DoktorTeeth | it says it's disabled | [05:28] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: you need to provide your db login info to the installer which you can find in your db/local.php file | [05:29] |
| DoktorTeeth | K I'll check it out... brb | [05:30] |
| luciash | or if you have ssh access to the server (not only ftp) you can use this command: "php installer/shell.php"
which will do the upgrade from command line | [05:30] |
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| Sug4r | polom :) | [05:41] |
| luciash | Sug4r: enlight luciash about polom | [05:52] |
| Sug4r | luciash: 'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P | [05:52] |
| DoktorTeeth | k... local.php seems to be using the proper login, but the version line shows 3.0 .... question is, does that mean my db wasn't updated, or that local.php wasn't updated? unfortunately I don't have SSH access but maybe I can get some live help from their support | [05:56] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: ssh access is not necessary, it is just quicker
DoktorTeeth: version line is just informative it just shows what Tiki version you started with it shouldn't affect the functionality but you can change it to 4.0 if you like so you just can go to the installer, submit the dbuser/dbpass info (and if it is locked still you have to remove the empty lock file in db/) and go to the Upgrade step to upgrade your db | [05:57] |
| DoktorTeeth | k didn't see that line on there about the lock file b4 when I tried it, but I'm into it now... | [06:09] |
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| chibaguy | luciash, I moved the page_id css id from body tag to html tag, and it passed the w3 validator ok.
http://zukakakina.com/trunk/tiki-index.php 6 other errors, tho ;-) so I'll commit the change. | [06:30] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23698 10/trunk/templates/tiki.tpl: [ENH] CSS id "page_" using $page_id moved from body tag to html tag to also enable specific background for entire page (recommended by luci). | [06:38] |
| chibaguy | One use of that selector: HomePage (id="page_1") can easily have a display:none for the page title. I've been thinking for a long time there should be a way to turn this page title off. Actually it should be a L&F option, IMO. | [06:42] |
| luciash | chibaguy: ? | [06:48] |
| chibaguy | yes? | [06:48] |
| luciash | chibaguy: hi btw, i just don't understand your last msg
chibaguy: you can switch page titles off on Admin Home → Wiki | [06:48] |
| chibaguy | yeah, but I want to only switch off 'HomePage'. | [06:49] |
| luciash | chibaguy: ah, you mean, per page ? | [06:49] |
| chibaguy | well, I think homepage is a special case. | [06:50] |
| luciash | ok | [06:50] |
| DoktorTeeth | you can rename it....I did | [06:50] |
| luciash | yep, i do almost the same (changing the name to Welcome or something) or switch them off all | [06:51] |
| chibaguy | seems like a lot of sites don't have a page title on the top page, but do on pages that are linked to at the site. | [06:52] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: how did the upgrade go ? | [06:52] |
| chibaguy | anyway, it can be done easily with css also, now. | [06:52] |
| luciash | chibaguy: you could do also with the head custom code before too ;)
DoktorTeeth: please here | [06:53] |
| chibaguy | if $page eq 'HomePage' .... then what? sorry, can you explain to this slow guy? | [06:55] |
| luciash | then {literal}h1 {display: none}{/literal} | [06:56] |
| DoktorTeeth | my install went sort of ok, just don't have admin anymore and the format's all screwed up :P | [06:57] |
| chibaguy | oh yeah, ok. thanks. | [06:57] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: oups, no admin ? do you have other user with admin rights ? | [06:58] |
| DoktorTeeth | I did, who knows if they still do... not sure why mine is gone...
the best I can hope for is to email them , one may be on later | [06:59] |
| luciash | if you upgraded from some older Tiki there can be problem your admin user is not assigned to Admins group which has tiki_p_admin permission | [07:01] |
| chibaguy | well, the reason I was thinking about adding the css id to body/html was that I have a site with a number of wiki pages that each need unique backgrounds on div#main, so the header custom code would get kind of long. thought being able to put it all in a css file would be good. | [07:01] |
| luciash | chibaguy: sure, i see | [07:01] |
| DoktorTeeth | ahhh, that might be it... I was default admin user | [07:02] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: so you might need to assign your user to Admins group... that should help
DoktorTeeth: unfortunatelly i don't know at which point we missed this for the upgraders... some upgrades are fine and some ppl report this | [07:03] |
| DoktorTeeth | lol, that must be hell :/ | [07:04] |
| luciash | well, not that bad yet ;) | [07:04] |
| chibaguy | DoktorTeeth: page layout problems are probably due to old themes or old theme files still being used. the cleanest way is to remove all old files in any themes that got upgraded, then install the new files, to make sure no old ones are there. | [07:05] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: also make sure to clean your templates_c/ dir where templates are being cached
what theme you use btw ? | [07:05] |
| DoktorTeeth | ah ha... I'll do that now... I don't even remember to be honest
my tob bar is light blue header bar one of the built in ones... I didnt even modify it | [07:07] |
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| luciash | chibaguy: pls add your suggestion at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WatchIcon | [07:12] |
| chibaguy | You can check the look and feel admin page to see what theme is being used, and I suggest removing all of its files in templates/styles/(that theme name)/ and then reinstalling the new files for that theme. | [07:13] |
| DoktorTeeth | I would but I don't hae admin priviledges anymore :P | [07:14] |
| chibaguy | luciash, that surveillance cam is cute.
DoktorTeeth: yeah, that would make it harder. first things first surveillance cam is good once people realize what it is. I wasn't sure at first. | [07:14] |
| luciash | chibaguy: yeah, that is always the big problem with little icons
chibaguy: like the closed eye ;) chibaguy: luckily we have the tooltips ;) | [07:16] |
| chibaguy | maybe a monkey covering his eyes, then uncovering. ;-) but hard in 16px. | [07:19] |
| DoktorTeeth | yeah if not for tooltips we'd be lost | [07:19] |
| luciash | chibaguy: i also like the "3D" glasses idea i have seen in some other wiki (the blue vs red glass one)... it is good joke with the diff colors. but i am unsure if plain goggles would do the trick of "watching" a page | [07:21] |
| chibaguy | luciash, is the solution for DoktorTeeth to edit his database? | [07:21] |
| luciash | chibaguy: yes, if no other admin | [07:21] |
| DoktorTeeth | been trying to remember how... it's been years since i had to edit data in a table manually
I got sql to give me the fields and what's in them but not change actual data, only add and remove fields in fact the last time i did I was using hyperterminal over a 14.4 modem to access the server lol, AGES ago | [07:23] |
| chibaguy | the easiest way may be to use phpmyadmin if it's installed on your server.
but I don't see yet where the group members are stored. | [07:30] |
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| DoktorTeeth | yeah that's what I'm in, I was just looking in permissions | [07:31] |
| chibaguy | maybe users_usergroups table
I see userId column with data "1" and groupName column with data "Admins" and created column with "null" | [07:32] |
| DoktorTeeth | theoretically I should be ID 1 | [07:33] |
| chibaguy | yep, users_users table shows userId 1 to be admin. | [07:37] |
| DoktorTeeth: when you get it done, can you confirm that inserting the row in users_usergroups table lets you log in as admin? | [07:45] | |
| DoktorTeeth | what's the command to change the value of a field? the documentation is a moras! so far I have: SELECT * FROM `users_users``default_group` | [07:57] |
| chibaguy | seems users_usergroups table is the one you need to edit.
This is the sql for when I added a user id (2, in Registered group) to users_usergroups table: INSERT INTO `branch4x`.`users_usergroups` (`userId`, `groupName`, `created`) VALUES ('2', 'Registered', NULL); (branch4x is the db name) | [08:01] |
| DoktorTeeth | my default group is set to "null" currently, I was just going to change "Null" to "Admins"
now I have : SELECT * FROM `users_users` USE `default_group` WHERE `default_group`=Admins I'm just not sure about my syntax | [08:05] |
| chibaguy | you don't need to select, you need to insert.
and it's the users_usergroups table that should be inserted into. do you see my example, above? | [08:08] |
| DoktorTeeth | yeah I'll give it a shot | [08:11] |
| chibaguy | just adjust for the user id (1) and the group (Admins), and use your database name. | [08:14] |
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| DoktorTeeth | tells me I have a duplicate entry for key 1 | [08:22] |
| chibaguy | I wonder what that entry is, if it's "admin" already.
(it should be, but then if it is, there's some other reason that your admin login isn't working.) | [08:26] |
| luciash | u have to use UPDATE command instead
and make sure the Admins group have the tiki_p_admin permission assigned | [08:27] |
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| chibaguy | chibaguy goes to read docs on insert and update ;-)
oh, because he already has the row but needs the, what?, group name updated? | [08:30] |
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| DoktorTeeth | could i be that I AM admin, but the menu is not available somehow? | [08:45] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: try to go to tiki-admin.php directly in your address bar and you will see | [08:49] |
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| DoktorTeeth | yeah it won't gp directly
*go | [09:01] |
| another oddity is that there's 2 search bars, one on top of the other, offset | [09:07] | |
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| chibaguy | DoktorTeeth: the two search bars is no doubt due to old theme files still being used.
one is displayed by an old file, one by a new one. DoktorTeeth: what do you see when you try to access tiki-admin.php? Is it a 'permission denied' error? | [09:15] |
| DoktorTeeth | 404
I changed the permission to allow execute and renamed the htaccess but still couldn't see it oh wait that was in browser so I NEED TO CHANGE PERMS FOR world COL sorry I'm tired now hmmm still 404 | [09:17] |
| chibaguy | can you check with ftp or something that the file tiki-admin.php is on your server? | [09:22] |
| DoktorTeeth | oh it's there all right, I've been changeing permissions for it | [09:23] |
| chibaguy | ok | [09:23] |
| DoktorTeeth | dunno but I'm out of steam for tonight, it's 4am and I started at 9am | [09:29] |
| chibaguy | heh, time for a break, for sure. | [09:32] |
| DoktorTeeth | yeah just gonna set permissions to these fies back and go to bed | [09:34] |
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| chibaguy | chibaguy never sets any file permissions in modern Tiki installs. | [09:49] |
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| macnific | luciash: ahhh come on.... didn't you see my long polom luciash... read some lines above in the chat. I am going to become traumatic with this.
remember my friends, politeness is not at all synonym of goodness or kindness. I know very polite people that are not a tall kind. I mean.. not at all...kind So... good morning to everyone. | [10:36] |
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| DoktorTeeth | hey guys, I was on here 8 hours ago ... I upgraded to tiki ver 4 from 3.3 and now I don't have an admin menu any ideas about where in the database I should look? | [17:12] |
| grobda24 | Do I have to do anything special for mp4 video ? | [17:12] |
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| grobda24 | I tried using the flash player but the video never loads | [17:12] |
| fact | geetting | [17:13] |
| grobda24 | Is that only for mp3 and flv ? | [17:13] |
| fact | whoops
greetings | [17:13] |
| grobda24 | DoktorTeeth, you have the rest of the UI showing ? | [17:13] |
| fact | is this a private convo? | [17:14] |
| DoktorTeeth | greets! yes, and tdocument editing is available, just the menu in the sidebar is gone | [17:14] |
| fact | K, bye | [17:14] |
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| grobda24 | DoktorTeeth, sounds like you need to check the menus section - or find out where to change settings for the admin menu
Use tiki-admin.php in the browser bar | [17:16] |
| DoktorTeeth | tried tiki-admin already, I get a 404 even though I can edit it ... I should mention I'm on a hosted server with shared IP
I used their installer at first to upgrade... then had to redo it manually | [17:17] |
| grobda24 | Sounds like you should carefully check install procedure and known problems | [17:18] |
| chibaguy | grobda24, you could try the mediaplayer plugin. I'm not sure if mp4 is supported, though. | [17:18] |
| grobda24 | As well as search the docs
chibaguy, hmmm, says it is on the docs wiki. Will try :) | [17:19] |
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| DoktorTeeth | I did al that... | [17:20] |
| grobda24 | k | [17:20] |
| DoktorTeeth | that's how i ended up here... but now that you mention it I never searched this particular problem | [17:21] |
| chibaguy | DoktorTeeth: did you figure out whether your are logged in as admin or not?
for example, can you see tiki-admingroups.php ? Also, about the 404 error, it'd be good to find out if your server is running windows or linux. Tiki has problems with windows servers sometimes. | [17:21] |
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| DoktorTeeth | I have no menu in the sidebar at all...
it's an apache server | [17:25] |
| chibaguy | no, i asked if you could go to the address www.yoursite.com/tiki-admingroups.php. I understand that the menu isn't displaying.
apache also runs on windows, by the way. | [17:27] |
| DoktorTeeth | running linux... no that's when I get the 404... I can see and manipulate the file in the file manager | [17:28] |
| chibaguy | ok. it's a 404 from the server, not a tiki error then? | [17:29] |
| DoktorTeeth | yes I think so... but I changed permission to 777 and renamed the htaccess
still nothing | [17:31] |
| chibaguy | Incidentally, as far as I know, it isn't necessary to change any file permissions when installing tiki. Anyway, I never do and it runs fine. | [17:32] |
| DoktorTeeth | and the file manager won't let me run from it's interface, only edit
well it was set low for that file , read only for "everyone" | [17:32] |
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| grobda24 | Could I put pluginShareThis in my articles template for auto sharethis on all articles ? | [17:38] |
| chibaguy | grobda24: why don't you try it and see what happens? I don't know how Sharethis picks up its info, so a test would be good. | [17:39] |
| grobda24 | Good idea. what is the syntax ? Just put it in curly brackets ? | [17:40] |
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| chibaguy | I don't know off hand. | [17:41] |
| grobda24 | k | [17:41] |
| chibaguy | must be some docs somewhere. | [17:41] |
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| chibaguy | grobda24, did you test mediaplayer playing mpg4? | [17:46] |
| grobda24 | no, it that got put on the backburner
that* | [17:47] |
| chibaguy | ok, was just curious. | [17:47] |
| grobda24 | k | [17:48] |
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| luciash | hi again
grobda24: mediaplayer supports only mp3 and flv afaik | [18:17] |
| DoktorTeeth | hey how are you? | [18:17] |
| luciash | grobda24: {wiki}{SHARETHIS() /}{/wiki} you can put in your custom code area on L&F admin page
hi DoktorTeeth, fine just brushing my teeths ;) | [18:19] |
| DoktorTeeth | I'm back at it again :P my issue with the 404 was a simple capital "T" in the word Tiki, but using the tiki-admin file didn't help anyway, still no menu
then I realised that I don't even have the items that anonymous should have... no menu at all no I wonder if it's just another template issue | [18:21] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: it is still not clear to me if you can access http://www.yourserver.tld/tiki-admin.php and see the admin icons in grid or not
DoktorTeeth: if yes, then just go to tiki-admin_modules.php and assign the menu module to Admins and Registered too, if it is assigned just for Anonymous | [18:24] |
| DoktorTeeth | oh it was because I wasn't logged in [embarassed] I get the icons now in tiki-admin | [18:32] |
| luciash | DoktorTeeth: ok, so you can fix your menu now on tiki-admin_modules.php now :)
left column menu, right ? | [18:36] |
| DoktorTeeth | got it on now....
now which am I supposed to check ... you said templates cache and some others that I don't remmber.. and I'm using Coelesce BTW | [18:40] |
| luciash | clear your all tiki cache at tiki-admin_system.php | [18:52] |
| DoktorTeeth | just did that :) | [18:53] |
| luciash | and move all files in templates/styles/coelesce/ folder somewhere else (backup) and copy there only the new ones from tiki package
(that should fix all theme related weird issues) | [18:53] |
| DoktorTeeth | the set in the folder? | [18:54] |
| luciash | what set ? | [18:54] |
| DoktorTeeth | a seperate folder I should say | [18:55] |
| luciash | just move everything from there
and upload only the new files there from your tiki 4.0 unzipped package the same folder path of course | [18:55] |
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| DoktorTeeth | well that fixed my header, anyway | [20:16] |
| and I ended up with the menus along the top bar too rather than on the side bar | [20:22] | |
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| DoktorTeeth | but I can't see the file dates so it was trial and error
one that you worked on had a date commented in the code, but the others didn't | [20:22] |
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| DoktorTeeth | hey if I want to post ideas for tikiwiki do I want to register as community of normal user?
er "community OR normal user" | [20:45] |
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| ndowens | Is there a good, easy to follow tutorial how to create/port skins from static html templates | [21:04] |
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| ndowens | no one knows the answewr | [21:35] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23701 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: mandatory category drop down field must display an empty line to be sure the user saves without checking a categ | [22:27] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03pingus * r23703 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] resource creation when desktop mod-ws_resources got from ws_type desktop definition | [23:00] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Create tree structure from tags - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35486 | [23:01] |
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| SimonF | Are there any TRACKER gurus online who can give me some advice about tracker implementation beyond what's in the doco? | [23:08] |
| sylvieg | me until I go to cook | [23:08] |
| SimonF | Hey sylvieg! I posted a question to the forums a few weeks back but didn't get a response. Here's what I'm trying to do: | [23:09] |
| sylvieg | sorry never look at forum too busy with bug fix | [23:10] |
| SimonF | Sorry about that dump - I was trying to format it better when I hit enter by mistake! | [23:11] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23704 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [ENH]TRACKER: new param autosave that allows to fill automatically fields with value when saving | [23:11] |
| SimonF | it looks prettier at: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=35360&forumId=4 | [23:11] |
| sylvieg | when you put itemId= in the url sometimes it does magic stuff
but a situation request / responses can be dealed with item list item list field | [23:13] |
| SimonF | Not this time, unfortunately. From the doco it looks like that has been implemented for TW4.0, but doesn't work in 3.3 | [23:14] |
| sylvieg | item link field?
no it is an old one | [23:14] |
| SimonF | The item list works fine for displaying the correlation between requests and responses. The challenge is making a user friendly way to allow the user to create a response that is automatically linked to the request. | [23:15] |
| sylvieg | ah... | [23:15] |
| SimonF | Once the corresponding responses exist, item list will show them very well. | [23:15] |
| sylvieg | my last commit can help but it is still not enough dynamic
sorry - I do not think ther is a out-of-the-box solution yet | [23:16] |
| SimonF | Yeah - item link would work in theory, but it requires the user to select from a very long list of very long options.
That's a real shame.... | [23:17] |
| sylvieg | comeon it is opensource
you want it - you do it or find people to do it | [23:18] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03pingus * r23705 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/templates/tiki-workspaces_list_resources.tpl: [FIX] removed double delete icon in resource management | [23:18] |
| sylvieg | shame is not correct with open source
SimonF: if you need commit perms I will be very happy to give them to you | [23:18] |
| SimonF | What I mean is that I'm disappointed that it doesn't already exist, because now I have to find the time to read all the source and re-learn PERL or something to figure out how to make it work.
What are commit perms? | [23:19] |
| sylvieg | to be able to have your change in the tw code
welcome to open source - you do not have it - you do it... so .. shame on you sorry | [23:20] |
| SimonF | It's been about 10 years since I've done any code development, and I'm using TW for what is basically a charity website with no funding. Hence my hesitation regarding developing code myself. | [23:23] |
| sylvieg | so change your design and ask the people to select the missing link.. | [23:24] |
| SimonF | Is there any doco that describes the architecture of the code behind TW? I don't know where to begin looking for the tracker functions... | [23:25] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23706 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php tiki-register.php): [FIX] on registration the preventing of antibot from appearing again on filling in user tracker info was not working before | [23:25] |
| SimonF | It's possible, but probably counter-productive. If we make it hard for users there's no real incentive for them to persist. Most can barely use browsers! | [23:26] |
| sylvieg | bbl later cooking time | [23:26] |
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