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[00:04] <Isajha> thank you i'll try to install the trunk version, if it fails i'll just wait for 4.1
[00:09] <ibrrorg> in re:18:35 post  is there a place i should post the error msg here or mail it to marc or another site or how does this work?
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[01:03] <nkoth> try using something like pastebin and then paste the link here
[01:03] <nkoth> is it a screen capture?
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[01:12] <Isajha> so when i want to patch from 4.0 to trunk, i just copy the trunk over the old files? and then execute installer once more?
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[02:26] * jacmoe have done the phpbb auth backend
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[03:31] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23836 10/branches/4.x/styles/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Adjustments in floated divs for content columns (see http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Floated box demo). Also some *.reference.css updating.
[03:33] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23837 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (10 files in 10 dirs): [ENH] Adjustments in floated divs for content columns (see http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Floated box demo). And misc. updates.
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[03:39] <chibaguy> Isajha: If you want the latest Tiki 4 snapshot, go to http://de.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php. Under Tiki4.x (RC) in the left column there are ...tar.* links.
[03:39] <Isajha> yes did that, however i'm not sure how to patch the existing installation
[03:39] <Isajha> (at least without destroying everything)
[03:39] <Isajha> just copy the files over the existing files and reexecute installer?
[03:39] <chibaguy> ah, you got the branch 4 snapshot, and not trunk?
[03:40] <chibaguy> yes, just copy over the existing files and go to tiki-install.php to do the update.
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[12:24] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23838 10/branches/3.0/lib/commentslib.php: [FIX]rollback 23585] should have been in proposed
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[12:27] <Kimberlee> hello all.
[12:27] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23839 10/branches/proposed/lib/commentslib.php: [bp/r 23584][FIX]comment: malformed object - the tiki_object was created with an object Id nul - It means that all these objects are lost
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[13:33] <marclaporte> polom
[13:34] <amette> moloq
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[15:20] <jacmoe> Hi guys :)
[15:20] <jacmoe> You have a bug in plugintoc
[15:20] <jacmoe> does not work with inclusion ;)
[15:22] <jacmoe> since it uses current page_id
[15:24] <jacmoe> I fixed it by adding an extra parameter to the plugin: pagename
[15:37] <jacmoe> Any devs present ? :)
[15:44] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: proper codeing - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=35580
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[16:52] <marclaporte> polom
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[18:27] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23840 10/branches/4.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Unexpected global needed (thanks marc)
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[18:31] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r23841 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fancytable.php: [FIX] Fix regression from commit 21293. Fix keeps | inside of links from being interpreted as column separators.
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[19:13] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23843 10/branches/4.x/templates/contribution.tpl: [FIX] Move admin message inside table structure and smarty logic (why is it admin only?)
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[19:20] <ibrrorg> marclaporte gave me a line of code to add to my local.php due to continual dbase error.  i was to report back if it did not fix it.  tiki 4.0 and i have the error here:  System error.  The following error message was returned:  MySQL server has gone away  Database is not currently up to date! Visit Tiki Installer to resolve this issue.
[19:31] <FrankP_german> hello, doc.tikiwiki.org not work for german
[19:31] <FrankP_german> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in /home/tiki/public_html/lang/de/language.php on line 2114
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[19:52] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23844 10/branches/4.x/lang/de/language.php: [FIX]de: a lot of synta errors
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[20:04] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2920 - - Installation failure, step #8, returns blank screen - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2920
[20:05] <luciash> hi
[20:06] <luciash> in 3.3 the AVATAR wikiplugin has no userId in the generated link... any idea it was fixed in Tiki 4 ?
[20:11] <ibrrorg> luciash--do you know where marclaporte wants me to post this error?  he asked me to report it if the line of code he gave me didn't work.  see post @ 14:20
[20:12] <luciash> hi ibrrorg
[20:12] <luciash> i think best would be on http://dev.tikiwiki.org as a bug report
[20:13] <ibrrorg> ok just click that link?
[20:13] <ibrrorg> im there
[20:13] <luciash> yep, just login with your tw.o username
[20:15] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2921 - - Installation failure, step #8, returns blank screen - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2921
[20:15] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2922 - - Installation failure, step #8, returns blank screen - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2922
[20:19] <ibrrorg> so, i submitted the error to your bugtracker and get this:  Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in /home/tiki/public_html/lang/de/language.php on line 2114
[20:20] <ibrrorg> go back or reload?
[20:20] <sylvieg> need to also svn up dev
[20:22] <sylvieg> ibrrorg: dev should be ok now
[20:22] <ibrrorg> ok thanx
[20:26] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2923 - - MySQL Has Gone Away Error in Tiki 4.0 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2923
[20:26] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2924 - - MySQL Has Gone Away Error in Tiki 4.0 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2924
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[20:28] <ripero> hi, does anybody have any experience with a turkish hacker called iSKORPiTX ?
[20:31] <ripero> (does he have a record of hacking tikiwikis?)
[20:37] <ibrrorg> i suppose one of those #2923 or #2924 should be deleted.  sorry, when i reloaded the page to view it it must have created an additional entry
[20:44] <sylvieg> ibrrorg: did you check your mysql error log
[20:46] <sylvieg> if I look at the doc .. did you increase wait-timeout?
[20:47] <sylvieg> max-allowed_packet too
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[20:57] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Links do not open in a new window - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35584
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[21:27] <ibrrorg> sorry, storms here and i am on satnet, just loaded the page back---where do i find the error log?
[21:35] <luciash> ibrrorg: check your cpanel or ask your webhost about the mysql error log
[21:36] <ibrrorg> found a error log (seems to track ALL errors, but doesn't say)  and none are listed for where the wiki is
[21:37] <ibrrorg> will write the server host
[21:38] <luciash> ibrrorg: ask about the "MySQL Has Gone Away Error" if they can help how to prevent it
[21:48] <ibrrorg> sent it off will stay inhouse here to report
[21:50] <luciash> sylvieg: can inserting new tracker item auto-create a CMS Article including the item via TRACKERLIST ? (something simmilar to the Wiki Page creation using the page selector ?)
[21:52] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2925 - - Can not change article language - page not found error - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2925
[21:53] <luciash> sylvieg: or blogs (only these two are good looking for common rss reader)
[21:54] <luciash> sylvieg: i would maybe prefer wiki pages actually but only if they show content instead of diffs
[22:04] <ibrrorg> wait-timeout and max-allowed_packet are two settings that can only be increased on a VPS/Dedicated server I am afraid.    Viewing the MySQL error log is only possible on a VPS/Dedicated server.  That being said, you are probably getting errors that the  mySQL process  sometimes has to be restarted. You should ignore these messages if your  website is functioning correctly. is the response and when i reload there is no issue so 
[22:05] <ibrrorg> im moving hosts at the end of the month maybe a better deal?! :-)  should i remove the bug or what?
[22:06] <sylvieg> luciash: so change the rss feed ;-)
[22:11] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23845 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [MOD]TRACKER: some filters
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[22:22] <luciash> sylvieg: well, that's the other option ;)
[22:22] <sylvieg> becasue it will be article, then blog then fgal, then...
[22:23] <sylvieg> unitl we do not have a real centralized tiki_objects
[22:23] <sylvieg> btw lucias did you look at the watchicon page
[22:23] <sylvieg> ?
[22:23] <sylvieg> sorry luciash
[22:23] <sylvieg> I like the idea of the eye with the checkbox
[22:24] <sylvieg> I do not have doubt with this one - hope I am not the only one
[22:24] <luciash> yeah, actually i think if i can get a WIKIPAGES wikiplugin (simmilar to the ARTICLES one) and change the RSS feed to display some beginnings of the rendered wiki pages, i would prefer to use wiki pages insetad of articles feature
[22:25] <luciash> yep, i did
[22:25] * sylvieg thinks that if we agree we need a good graphist ;-)
[22:26] <luciash> i like the idea with eye having +/- or green checkbox but it will be hardly recognizable for the group watches anyway
[22:26] <sylvieg> I think i can go with teh camera too that was a good idea - but I prefer the square checkbox instead pf the red/green little icon
[22:26] <sylvieg> group watch is limitted to admin so ...
[22:27] <sylvieg> and I do not think it change status?
[22:27] <sylvieg> we do not need a checkbox on this one
[22:27] <luciash> i was thinking i could try to draw the camera icon without the "weather shield" on top to make it more obvious it is a cam but no idea if it will help a lot 
[22:27] <sylvieg> we need a checkbox for structure...
[22:28] <sylvieg> imho the big step was the checkbox as a real checkbox .. it is like everywhere I do not have it if it is not checked
[22:28] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r23846 10/branches/4.x/styles/layout/ (4 files): [FIX] fix 23804 changed some references to body.fullscreen into body.tiki_fullscreen in error. fixed
[22:28] <sylvieg> so I do not have the eye the camera ... if it is not checked
[22:28] <luciash> i thought the jquery dropdown choice could work nicely too on the watch icon
[22:29] <sylvieg> but we will always need an icon to begin with...
[22:29] <sylvieg> after if the alt is not enough - well a jquery can do ti
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[22:31] <luciash> yep, i was thinking hovering the icon would show the two options "watch" / "unwatch" with the tickmark on the currently selected one
[22:31] * jacmoe waves
[22:32] <sylvieg> if the guy goes on the icon - the alt should be enough no?
[22:32] <luciash> nope, because tooltips do not popup immediatelly
[22:32] <luciash> in some browsers at least
[22:33] <luciash> and the alt wouldn't show him the other option and which one is active
[22:33] <luciash> s/alt/title tooltip/
[22:33] <luciash> hi jacmoe 
[22:33] <sylvieg> in coelesce there is a strnage bug somewhere the boxes do not have the same size everywhere - goto to amdin panel the top naviagation is bigger that the prefs box > note and change prefs is not align with no tabs..
[22:34] <jacmoe> What do I need to do to complete the initiation rites? :)
[22:34] <sylvieg> I suppose jquery can do an immediate popup for this one
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[22:34] <sylvieg> I like text .. icon is hard sometimes (I am not a mac person)
[22:35] <sylvieg> well jacmoe - who are you? what do you want to do? ..
[22:35] <luciash> well, we could change to the dropdown too (as we do with backlinks and language)
[22:35] <jacmoe> I have made a phpbb auth backend
[22:36] <jacmoe> I am from www.ogre3d.org
[22:36] <jacmoe> and I am pushing for a move from MW to Tiki :)
[22:36] <sylvieg> so waht wil be your first commit?
[22:36] <luciash> jacmoe: i wonder nobody did the ceremony for you yet here :-p
[22:37] <jacmoe> No, you were busy passing the hat around :)
[22:37] <jacmoe> I also fixed a bug in the plugintoc
[22:37] <sylvieg> if luciash knows you .. 
[22:37] <sylvieg> we need a sourceforge user name
[22:37] <jacmoe> I talked to marclaporte yesterday, or so I remember :)
[22:37] <jacmoe> jacmoe2
[22:38] <jacmoe> I registered at your site also ;)
[22:38] <sylvieg> luciash: you do the ritual - and add jacmoe to the devs
[22:38] <sylvieg> ?
[22:38] <jacmoe> It's basically authenticating against a phpbb database : username and password
[22:38] <jacmoe> sort of like ldap
[22:39] <luciash> hahah, i wonder why people don't like that nice hat :-p
[22:39] <jacmoe> The same thing happens today :P
[22:39] <jacmoe> BTW: I fixed a small issue with the toc tag
[22:39] <luciash> ok jacmoe, you passed the step one
[22:39] <luciash> :)
[22:39] <jacmoe> Thanks :)
[22:39] <jacmoe> Do you want to hear about the toc tag?
[22:40] <jacmoe> It's not working with inclusion
[22:40] * luciash puts the hat officially on
[22:40] * jacmoe oops
[22:40] * jacmoe ;)
[22:40] <luciash> no, i prefer to review your commit ;)
[22:40] <jacmoe> I actually have two commits
[22:41] <jacmoe> One for the new phpbb auth backend
[22:41] <luciash> step two: have you read our 3Rules and agree ?
[22:41] <sylvieg> jacmoe: you are un devs members
[22:41] <jacmoe> and one for the plugintoc
[22:41] <jacmoe> luciash: yes, I did.
[22:41] <jacmoe> sylvieg: great :)
[22:42] <sylvieg> but you need to folow luciash's instructions othwerwise I kick you out
[22:42] <luciash> jacmoe: understood and agree ?
[22:42] <luciash> sylvieg: heheh
[22:42] <jacmoe> yes :)
[22:42] <jacmoe> as long as I receive the instructions
[22:43] <luciash> jacmoe: ok, step two passed :)
[22:43] <luciash> now to the step three ;)
[22:43] <jacmoe> I've also read about your model :)
[22:43] <jacmoe> you really have some very long pages :D
[22:44] <jacmoe> And Hello World, as well..
[22:44] <luciash> jacmoe: enjoy and welcome to the community !
[22:44] <luciash> step three done ;)
[22:44] <jacmoe> Thanks - I hope that I am going to hang around for a while ;)
[22:44] <luciash> sylvieg: thanks for cooperation
[22:44] <jacmoe> I am currently running a campaign to get Ogre3D to move to Tiki.
[22:45] <jacmoe> It's a nice change from MediaWiki - very different.
[22:46] <jacmoe> Alright: what's the next step ?
[22:46] <jacmoe> Do I commit the phpbb auth stuff?
[22:46] <luciash> it was the last one :-p
[22:46] <jacmoe> So I just wreak some havoc in trunk?
[22:46] <luciash> sorry, forgot to say and take the hat off ;)
[22:46] <jacmoe> :)
[22:46] <luciash> yup yup
[22:47] <jacmoe> I'd like to hear your opinions on the issue I had with the plugintoc
[22:47] <jacmoe> it does not work with inclusion
[22:47] <luciash> inclusion of what ?
[22:47] <jacmoe> because it uses the current page id
[22:47] <jacmoe> when a toc tag is included from another page
[22:47] <sylvieg> congrats to jacmoe and the ceremony master 
[22:48] <jacmoe> sylvieg: Thanks a lot :)
[22:48] <luciash> jacmoe: using the INCLUDE wikiplugin ?
[22:48] <jacmoe> yes.
[22:48] <jacmoe> I fixed it
[22:48] <luciash> ah
[22:48] <sylvieg> cool
[22:48] <luciash> ok, sounds reasonable
[22:48] <jacmoe> by adding an extra parameter: pagename
[22:48] <jacmoe> if that is set, it fetches the id from the pagename from structure lib
[22:48] <jacmoe> and uses that
[22:49] <jacmoe> It means that inclusion and the toc tag can be used even more effectively
[22:49] <jacmoe> (I hope)
[22:49] <sylvieg> but a pagename can belong to 2 structures
[22:49] <jacmoe> Not on my wiki :P
[22:49] <luciash> it could be also incpageid
[22:50] <jacmoe> But, you do have a point
[22:50] <sylvieg> perhaps an additional param like structure...
[22:51] <jacmoe> Would it be okay if I paste 10 lines ?
[22:51] <jacmoe> Or should I use pastebin?
[22:51] <sylvieg> pastebin
[22:52] <jacmoe> http://pastebin.com/m4fbeb388
[22:52] <jacmoe> Only the relevant portion
[22:52] <jacmoe> if you want the whole file, let me know
[22:53] <jacmoe> I can commit the phpbb stuff while we talk
[22:55] <sylvieg> humm .. i will prefer structureName but it is a param...
[22:55] <sylvieg> but the getOne of get_struct_ref_id - I do not like it at all - I know it is not you
[22:55] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03jacmoe2 * r23847 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): PhpBB authentication method added. Enables users to authenticate against a phpBB database (username/password), much like ldap.
[22:56] * jacmoe it works! :)
[22:57] <jacmoe> Well, sylvieg: it was just a very quick hack by a Tiki novice.
[22:57] <sylvieg> but the seniors can help ;-)
[22:57] <jacmoe> It should probably check if there was an ID ..
[22:57] <sylvieg> it is a param so you are free - but in a perfect world
[22:58] <jacmoe> The user is passing a pagename, yes
[22:58] <sylvieg> I got a guy that use the same page in mulitple structures - only one - so far I know
[22:58] <jacmoe> but if the pagename is not in the particular structure
[22:58] <jacmoe> it should just disregard the pagename parameter and go with the default behaviour?
[22:59] <jacmoe> Or would that be hiding errors from the user?
[22:59] <jacmoe> I haven't tested it from a different structure
[22:59] <jacmoe> It works here: http://test.ogitor.org/tiki/Tutorials?bl=y
[23:00] <jacmoe> Intermediate tutorials section
[23:00] <jacmoe> using a fancy toc
[23:01] <jacmoe> btw: the phpbb auth thing does need a little bit of polish, even though it's quite usable already
[23:01] <luciash> jacmoe: btw, if you want to make sure your commits will appear in release changelog.txt, put [NEW] or [MOD] in the beggining of the commit message
[23:02] <luciash> or [FIX] etc. )
[23:02] <luciash> ;)
[23:02] <jacmoe> Alright. Good call.
[23:02] <luciash> see changelog.txt for examples ;)
[23:02] <jacmoe> It might do that when I polish it up a bit more
[23:02] <jacmoe> it's currently hardcoded to use mySQL
[23:03] <luciash> oups, you shouldn't do that... *really* ;)
[23:03] <jacmoe> I wrote a prominent note of that in the preferences page :P
[23:03] <luciash> will cause us a lot of trouble if you leave that code hardcoded
[23:04] <jacmoe> The code itself is not
[23:04] <jacmoe> the function is
[23:04] <jacmoe> We need to know what kind of host it is
[23:04] <luciash> especially when we plan to continue fixes towards pgsql compatibility in trunk
[23:05] <sylvieg> please no ?> at the end of file - zend recommendation 
[23:05] <luciash> ok, i haven't reviewed your code yet
[23:05] * jacmoe taking notes
[23:06] <jacmoe> I am used to commit C++ code, not PHP :P
[23:06] <jacmoe> It's all in your documents?
[23:06] <jacmoe> I'll read them - promise
[23:07] <sylvieg> heu did you forgot templates/tiki-admin_include_login.tpl?
[23:08] <sylvieg> ... and you need to use {preference} now and no need anymore to put the change in tiki-admin_incelude_login - I know it is new
[23:08] <jacmoe> I used that first, because CAS was using it, but reverted to using the other approach
[23:08] <jacmoe> because of undefined variables
[23:09] <sylvieg> it is a work on progress
[23:09] <jacmoe> there's a mix of approaches in that file :)
[23:09] <sylvieg> so you need to add your pref in l;iv/prefs/auth.php
[23:09] <sylvieg> and use {preference in the tpl
[23:10] <sylvieg> and no more need to update the include.php
[23:10] <sylvieg> - work on progress - thanks to pkdille
[23:10] <jacmoe> Does it work on a fresh install only?
[23:10] <jacmoe> Or on a working installation?
[23:11] <jacmoe> I couldn't make it pick the vars, even though they were in prefs.php
[23:11] <sylvieg> it is still working - but it will be nice to follow the ... lesser magic rule - that when you are newlie is perhpas hard to find out
[23:11] <jacmoe> But, I'll take note of that too. :)
[23:11] <sylvieg> but if you buy a beer to pkdille he will do the upgrade
[23:11] <sylvieg> ;-)
[23:12] <jacmoe> I might :)
[23:12] <jacmoe> I am happy that I have a chance to see it included in Tiki
[23:12] <jacmoe> so that I don't have to patch it up after each upgrade
[23:13] <sylvieg> why {prefrence is better ? code is simple - adn we can do a search on prefs - a big future improvement
[23:13] <jacmoe> It looks a lot cleaner
[23:13] <jacmoe> definitely
[23:13] <jacmoe> I did that first, but ran into issues
[23:13] <sylvieg> the aim is the search in feature..
[23:14] <jacmoe> the dynamic feature feature is neat, btw
[23:14] <sylvieg> humm which one?
[23:15] <jacmoe> Lots of software has hacking in sql to get new preferences/features
[23:15] <sylvieg> perharps it is a on-progress job... bump can exist
[23:16] <marclaporte> congrats jacmoe!
[23:16] <sylvieg> I was completly against 'magic' dev - but 'lesser magic' is so ggod - I like it
[23:16] <jacmoe> marclaporte: thanks :)
[23:16] <jacmoe> I am currently breaking all the rules :)
[23:17] <sylvieg> so jacmoe has to follow the lesser magic stuff or buy a beer to pkdille
[23:17] <jacmoe> I'll look at how you make connections and call a database
[23:17] <jacmoe> remember: this is an external host
[23:18] <jacmoe> Could probably do what you do in the tiki-install database phase
[23:18] <sylvieg> not sure I get you - 'lesser magic' is a way to implement prefs
[23:19] <jacmoe> Ah, I thought you were referring to the hard-coding of mysql :P
[23:19] <jacmoe> I got it ;)
[23:20] <sylvieg> ah yeh - I do not see taht
[23:20] <sylvieg> ok another one - you need to be adodb or pdo..
[23:20] <sylvieg> sorry..
[23:21] <jacmoe> It's included in every php on earth, so it won't break anything other than the spirit of Tiki :)
[23:21] <sylvieg> if you say in the doc you will update on doc.tw - that this feature is only available with mysql - why not
[23:21] <sylvieg> but it is not 'tiki style'
[23:21] <jacmoe> But, I agree completely
[23:22] <sylvieg> so jacmoe will do some docs on doc.tw
[23:22] <jacmoe> I made up a help link, so I think I need to make the page :)
[23:22] <jacmoe> Or at least the entry
[23:22] <jacmoe> in the list
[23:23] <sylvieg> jacmoe: DOC IS VERY IMPORTANT TOO - TW IS SO HUDGE...
[23:23] <sylvieg> soory for caps
[23:23] <jacmoe> Do I just include tiki-db.php ?
[23:24] <jacmoe> I agree on documentation
[23:24] <sylvieg> I have no idea how you query another db with tw stuff
[23:24] <jacmoe> The server could even be on another machine, so the user has to have some options
[23:25] <sylvieg> so I let you study the stuff and do the best - but as I say if you document .... 
[23:25] <jacmoe> it would be kosher :)
[23:25] <jacmoe> I'll remove the ?> tags too
[23:25] <sylvieg> but the {preference.. stuff be ready to buy a beer - this part is in the core - the way you connect with phpbb is yours
[23:26] <jacmoe> but it would be nice to get rid of that mySQL only notice :P
[23:26] <jacmoe> And I'll try again with the cleaner, and much less to write {preference method
[23:26] * sylvieg thinks jacmoe is ready to commit a lot more
[23:26] <sylvieg> thx
[23:27] <sylvieg> thx newbie..
[23:27] <jacmoe> Er, what about the toc issue? :)
[23:27] <jacmoe> I know it's not optimal, but it does make it possible to make pages like : http://test.ogitor.org/tiki/Tutorials?bl=y
[23:27] <sylvieg> it is better than now - it could be better.. imho
[23:28] <jacmoe> I'll try with a page not in the structure
[23:28] <sylvieg> so you can commit :-)
[23:28] <jacmoe> it should be able to handle that.
[23:28] <jacmoe> And then I need to update the plugintoc page as well.
[23:28] <jacmoe> Is my login good for that?
[23:29] <jacmoe> How do you handle versions in the docs?
[23:29] * sylvieg puts a tw>=4.0
[23:30] <sylvieg> the doc guys clean after you
[23:30] <jacmoe> Ah, very comforting to know. ;)
[23:30] <sylvieg> but if the devs do not document - the doc guys can not always do it - sometimes they are smart
[23:31] <jacmoe> it's an art in itself
[23:31] * sylvieg is not a doc person - considering the por english level - but find out that to put some docs - there is always somebody to correct the English - So it is good
[23:32] <jacmoe> Right - it works - now on to make it pretty as well :P
[23:33] <jacmoe> You can cross your fingers, btw.
[23:33] <jacmoe> The Ogre community is currently voting
[23:33] <jacmoe> Over Go Tiki or Stay MediaWiki.
[23:35] <jacmoe> Alright - I have some work to do: I'll clean and polish the phpbb stuff, and test the plugintoc a little bit more
[23:35] <jacmoe> and then add to the documentation
[23:39] <jacmoe> Thanks a lot, guys! :)
[23:39] <jacmoe> sylvieg and luciash : see you later
[23:40] * jacmoe waves
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