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[00:35] <luciash> or not ?
[00:37] <luciash> ah, nope, seems tiki friendly host, sorry
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[04:35] <amette> chibaguy: thanks :)
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[08:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23851 10/branches/4.x/lang/en/language.php: [FIX] The parentheses around ))HomePage(( were displaying, but anyway there's no need for the word to be camelcase or uppercase.
[08:48] <chibaguy> (^^ appearing in the default homepage content on new installs.)
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[11:26] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: How to install fckeditor (wysiwyg)? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=35586
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[18:09] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23852 10/trunk/ (30 files in 10 dirs): 
[18:09] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23826 to 23851
[18:09] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: Except for 2 conflicted files: lang/de/language.php and lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fancytable.php which require manual attention.
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[18:47] <Bilal> Hi everyone
[18:48] <luciash> hi
[18:49] <luciash> what challenge-response algorithms we use when "Use challenge/response authentication" is enabled ?
[18:49] <luciash> or, in other words, what is the difference to "normal" login method ?
[18:50] <Bilal> any TIKIWIKI expert arround?
[18:50] <Bilal> luciash: i wish if i could help you
[18:51] <Bilal> luciash: i myself is seeking help here 
[18:51] <Bilal> anybody home?
[18:51] <luciash> :)
[18:51] <luciash> what you need ?
[18:51] <Bilal> my tikiwki site is having problems with menus, they were okay before, but now sometimes on some pages they drop downs stop loading
[18:52] <Bilal> we added Google Adsense into our pages 
[18:53] <Bilal> and i think its some conflict with it and menus doesnt work
[18:53] <Bilal> can you help?
[18:53] <luciash> do u have a link ?
[18:53] <Bilal> http://join.pk
[18:53] <luciash> i can have a look
[18:53] <luciash> does it happen on this link page ?
[18:54] <luciash> seems it works for me
[18:54] <Bilal> http://join.pk/Go+Green+Pakistan
[18:54] <Bilal> check this page
[18:54] <Bilal> this page has google ads 
[18:55] <luciash> menus work for me there too
[18:56] <Bilal> go to home of the site, then on home page you will find this link GO GREEN PAKISTAN in 2nd column, click and link from home page and then when you will see the page, menus won't work
[18:57] <Bilal> they sometime work and then don't , since i am with the site all the time i know the menus roll downs stop appearing 
[19:00] <luciash> well, this is rather weird... direct link you provided here - menus work... going from the home page using the link, thye don't work
[19:02] <luciash> my Chromium browser JS console says "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null"
[19:02] <luciash> /lib/phplayers/libjs/layersmenu-library.js:42
[19:04] <luciash> when i go directly uing the link you gave me here, there's no such error
[19:04] <luciash> *using
[19:06] <luciash> when i go from your homepage using the link at the bottom 3rd column, it works fine too
[19:06] <luciash> http://join.pk/tiki-index.php?page=Go+Green+Pakistan
[19:07] <luciash> must be something about the referrer ?
[19:07] <luciash> and the http://join.pk/Go+Green+Pakistan link
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[19:08] <luciash> is it absoulet or relative link which makes the trouble ?
[19:08] <luciash> Bilal: ^
[19:08] <Bilal> yeah here
[19:09] <ibrrorg> is there a reason when employing the pluginimg (embedding a picture) in tiki 4 that it reverts back to tiki 3.x in the code when you go into edit it?  can display the code if wanted (about 2 lines)
[19:10] <Bilal> i am not sure when it happens but it does happen
[19:11] <ibrrorg> yeah, EVERY time i go to edit the page (any page) i have to rewrite the whole code or else i get NO picture!  :-(
[19:11] <Bilal> i am checking trying to find out when exactly it happens
[19:11] <luciash> ibrrorg: what you mean by "it reverts back to tiki 3.x" ???
[19:12] <Bilal> any tips what can we check?
[19:12] <luciash> Bilal: check if it is absolute or relative URL link
[19:12] <ibrrorg> i put this:  {img fileId="7" imalign=left styleimage=padding:10px} and edit the page the next day to add something and it shows this:  ~np~ 	{img src=/ProjectMagellan/lib/fckeditor/editor/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=7  height=24 width=24}~/np~
[19:13] <Bilal> luciash: okay i am checking
[19:13] <ibrrorg> doesn't matter if i am in wiki editor or wysiwig
[19:13] <luciash> ibrrorg: ah, it might be problem with mixing wysiwyg/non-wysiwyg edit mode
[19:14] <ibrrorg> ok
[19:14] <ibrrorg> so i should settle for one or the other? 
[19:14] <luciash> someone edits in wysiwyg and you edit probably in wiki syntax and this doesn't work right sometimes
[19:15] <ibrrorg> i mean when i code my tiki 4.x line EACH time regardless of type of editor it reverts back to tiki 3.x
[19:15] <luciash> also try to switch off the automonospacing for text which is prepend by spaces on Admin → Wiki
[19:15] <ibrrorg> this is ONLY specific to the image though everything else is mucho bueno!  :-)
[19:16] <ibrrorg> ok will do
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[19:21] <Bilal> luciash: i have some information 
[19:21] <Bilal> its happening specially when i edit a page and come back with confirmation message in URL
[19:21] <Bilal> it also happens on both types of URLS relative and absolute 
[19:21] <Bilal> ERROR CONSOLE of mozilla is showing this error when problem shows
[19:21] <Bilal> Error: document.getElementById(layer) is null Source File: http://join.pk/lib/phplayers/libjs/layersmenu-library.js Line: 42
[19:25] <Bilal> luciash: ^
[19:25] <luciash> Bilal: yep, same as i told you ;)
[19:26] <Bilal> how can we fix it?
[19:26] <luciash> no idea, maybe try css menus instead
[19:26] <Bilal> okay
[19:27] <Bilal> which menu do you prefer ?
[19:27] <luciash> or move the layersmenu js code src call to the end of the document
[19:27] <Bilal> okay we can check that
[19:28] * luciash prefers css
[19:28] <Bilal> is there any CSS based TIKI menu available?
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[19:28] <luciash> sure, builtin
[19:28] <Bilal> okie
[19:28] <coaboa> is there a way to automaticaly switch theme for certain/specific browsers (eg. all IE Versions will see tikinewt theme but all others will have eatlon) ?
[19:28] <luciash> Bilal: it is already available in tiki
[19:28] <Bilal> we will shift to CSS and hopefully issue will be resolved 
[19:29] <Bilal> luciash: i appreciate your time
[19:29] <luciash> Bilal: i believe so
[19:30] <luciash> coaboa: yes
[19:31] <luciash> coaboa: Tiki 4 ?
[19:31] <coaboa> yes tiki v4.Would this require oding?
[19:32] <coaboa> *coding
[19:32] <luciash> nope
[19:32] <luciash> only create empty css file in styles/
[19:33] <luciash> then put in your custom HEAD textarea something like :
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[19:34] <BARBIE> ^^
[19:34] <Soubi> Noob
[19:34] <BARBIE> --'
[19:35] <Soubi> Moi j'ai tout plein de problème, je suis un PGM et je veux crée un website de la mort qui tue en BBcode !
[19:36] <Soubi> Mais pas trop compliqué le BBcode ... 
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[19:36] <luciash> coaboa: <!--[if IE]><style type="text/css" src="styles/tikinewt.css" /><![endif]-->
[19:37] <coaboa> cool thx.. try it right away.
[19:37] <luciash> coaboa: <!--[if gt IE]><style type="text/css" src="styles/eatlon.css" /><![endif]-->
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[19:38] <luciash> coaboa: err, probably the second is wrong but you will find the way ;)
[19:38] <luciash> coaboa: just select the empty css theme in Admin → Look and Feel
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[19:38] <coaboa> can user afterwards override the setting (if perm granted) or will this override the admin-themes setting?
[19:40] <luciash> coaboa: maybe it will need some smarty or js code there too if it doesn't work (i just don't remember which one exactly handles the browser checks if any)
[19:41] <luciash> it will not work for users unless you make an exception and put it inside {if $style eq 'myemptytheme'}...{/if}
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[19:42] <luciash> bbl
[19:42] <coaboa> ok. THX playing around now
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[19:51] <coaboa> Other question Plugin {ARTICLE}. I want NOT to display the "Articles" and the admin wrench. is there a no-title flag?  
[19:52] <coaboa> I only want to display the articles heading and the title.
[19:55] <coaboa> I use {ARTICLES(max=>3,categId=>38)}{ARTICLES}  
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[20:23] <sylvieg> coaboa: you have to tune the css with a display:hidden - I do not think thre is an option
[20:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r23853 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fancytable.php: 
[20:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: [FIX] Fixes regression from commit 21293 and fixes rowspan problem. Regression
[20:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: fix keeps | inside of links from being interpreted as column separators. Similar
[20:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: fix to 4x in commit 23841. Jquery sort code still broken - Sylvie to fix before
[20:46] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: transporting to 4x.
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[21:02] <luciash> i don't get it, articles plugin displays article title and heading with more link by default
[21:24] <coaboa> Yes. The display of  Articles Heading and Title is ok. But there is a Word "Articles" followed by a smal wrench icon  which i need to exclude.
[21:36] <coaboa> I think the Word "Articles" is read from tiki-view_articles.php. If I load this it is ok. But when using the Articles plugin this Header is wrong as I only displays articles which belongs to the category "Featured Contribution". Only way for me right now is to have a link to an extra page ((Featured Contribution)) where "Articles"  isn't that much a problem.  Any other idea?
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[21:54] <CIA-72> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23854 10/trunk/lib/newsletters/nllib.php: [FIX]newsletters: display also the newsletter taht have not been sent
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[22:15] <luciash> coaboa: you can change it on Admin → Articles iirc
[22:15] <luciash> coaboa: and the wrench icon displays only for admins
[22:16] <CIA-77> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23855 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fancytable.php: notice
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[22:53] <CIA-77> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23856 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX]darkroom: the important on th background was messing up with jq.tablesort - hope it does not break something else - \!important are evil
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[23:18] <ibrrorg> tiki 4.0---so i set up a template using the wysiwig editor (strange template) in the sandbox copied the code into a page and found that it only displays the code and not the template that i copied from the sandbox.  searched around and didn't find any doc on this. 
[23:19] <ibrrorg> <table width="100%" is the type of code
[23:19] <luciash> hi ibrrorg
[23:20] <ibrrorg> howdy!
[23:20] <luciash> you have to paste the html code produced by wysiwyg in the wysiwyg "source code" area
[23:20] <ibrrorg> i figure ya'll will ban me one day on the ?'s but i really do a search both in ur site and google---ok will do that thanx!  
[23:21] <luciash> or inside the {HTML()}...{HTML} wikiplugin or enable html for the specific wiki page
[23:21] <luciash> if non-wysiwyg page
[23:22] <luciash> ibrrorg: did the previous hint work ? (automonospaced text)
[23:23] <ibrrorg> nah, i even rewrote the whole page from scratch and it still reverts back.  so, i got it where it'll work and left it alone!  u know my site though and its not all critical and such as the stuff you helped with is where it counts!  :-)
[23:23] <ibrrorg> the code reverts back that is---image displays no sweat
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