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seems a silent morning/afternoon/evening (whatever) -: xavi just finished reading the log for yesterday chibaguy: hi xavi xavi: hi gary :-) chibaguy: yeah, kind of quiet. xavi: :-) yes, it's nice for working :-)
btw, could you make any progress with the header-type of improvement with images?
the client wants to have their site ready for production by the end of this month, aprox.
so far, they are planning to add a static image at the header
and if no better approach, I'l invest some time to try to do that with banners
a set of banners, and call the banner section at the header ***: skbohra_ has joined #tikiwiki
skbohra has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) chibaguy: xavi, sorry, but I've been having trouble getting additional javascript to work in tiki 4. xavi: ok chibaguy: the infinite carousel at themes.tw.o, for example, and also in a new site, a different jquery slideshow. I think maybe jonnyb needs to have a look.
I had an idea about using the random image module somehow.
if there was a gallery of images the right size.
then the trick would be to use z-index layers to put the site title on top of the images.
I want to experiment with that. xavi: good idea.... :-)
btw, 4.1 is released at sf.net (good job Strasbourg guys...)
but it says (said) 0 downloads... so I guess that nobody tried the packed files...
I'm downloading the tar.gz and 4.0to4.1 package... to give them a try
I guess that when 3 of us have tested them and succeeded with no problems, we can announce the release everywhere... (info.tw.o, tw.o, and tw lists) ***: Beestje has joined #tikiwiki Beestje: good morning all xavi: btw (2) , I wonder if any 3.4 release (LTS) is in the oven (or somebody's roadmap)
hi Beestje ***: GillesM has joined #tikiwiki xavi: chibaguy, have you ever used css styles over a multitiki installation?
and finding a curious missbehavior... and I wonder whether you might be interested to know... chibaguy: no, xavi, I don't have any multitiki experience. xavi: it's not that important, I know how to overrride using normal styles, and not the ones expected in a multitiki environment chibaguy: what is the problem? xavi: ok, then I don't bother you with that chibaguy: sorry, I meant no, i don't have experience, not no, I don't want to know. ;-) xavi: are you sure you want to know?
ah ok, :-)
well, you can have a look at here: http://gavarrespedia.org
based on andreas08.css
btw, sylvieg, you might want to know about this issue for your multitiki environments (whenever you are up)
so, I just changed a few colors from blues to greens, so far
edited first from the "edit css" feature bundled within tiki
(i was in a place where I didn't have the ftp account details to change basic colors)
so the changes (new css) went magically inside the ./styles/site1.org/site1.css
which is fine
and hey seemed to work
s/hey/they
I made the copy from andreas08.css them style (to avoid confusion) from tiki interface "edit css", as I said
however, afair, there was not automatic copying of the tpl files to the equivalent ./templates/site1.org/ or ./templates/styles/site1/
and andreas08.css uses its own tiki.tpl
ok, can you follow so far, chibaguy? chibaguy: I didn't think template files were changed or added when using Tiki's edit-css feature. xavi: it's difficult to explain, maybe (and that part was last week)
yes, neither did I. so expected behavior: tpl's are not copied anywhere,etc.
(even if maybe they could, if the based theme from where you are making the copy, had specific tpl's). But anyway, so far, so god
So I added that tpl manually...
my first guess was that I had to add the tiki.tpl (from ./templates/styles/andreas08/tiki.tpl) to ./templates/site1.org/tiki.tpl
BUT this doesn't seem to fully work well... I don't know why. That how it works now http://gavarrespedia.org
as you can see (I guess), the login fields are on the left hand side of the header, and many images have some border visible
but, if I move everything (custom css and tpl) from the site1.org folder (as of multitiki) to the site1 folder (as of common new style for all tikis at the multitiki installation), the theme styles shows up 100% well, as andreas08.css: login fileds to the right, no border in images, bigblue help icon have some style applied and thus, shown on the right top corner instead of below the central column, etc. chibaguy: the loginbar position comes from design.css.
(or should)
what version of tiki is the site using?
maybe comes from layout.css in tiki 3. xavi: so I mean, moving ./styles/site1.org/site1.css (and the images inside the site1 folder) to ./styles/site1.css (and the images inside the site1 folder). Plus templates from ./templates/site1.org/tiki.tpl to ./templates/styles/site1/tiki.tpl
it's using tiki 3.3 ***: skbohra_ is now known as skbohra xavi: but chibaguy, where is design.css called, at tikit.pl?
tiki.tpl, I mean chibaguy: ah, it's usually imported by andreas08.css. xavi: yes, and in my site1.css I'm importing andreas08.css
so that, I guess that there is a cascade of importations... chibaguy: I don't see a sign that layout.css is being imported. xavi: which works well when all theme styles are at the same level, but it doesn't work well, I guess, when I use my customized css from a site1.org/site1.css (importation of design.css might not work well then)
^chibaguy ***: chealer_ has joined #tikiwiki xavi: ok, that might be the problem. chibaguy: maybe so. xavi: Anyway, too tricky and too specific to rare cases (like mine nodaways) and too easy workaround... so , I guess it's not worth fixing, with so many other (more important) things in everybodies' agenda (including mine).
I'll apply my own workaround: moving the same css and tpl file to the place where they should be if they were normal custom styles
and you'll see that every thing goes back to working as expected
(hold on 1 min) ***: chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) xavi: oh well, or maybe just changing (fixing) the relative folder of the andreas08.css would fix it... I'll try that first ***: mib_5jgfwx has joined #tikiwiki
mib_5jgfwx has quit IRC (Client Quit) xavi: great! chibaguy, thanks! you were right, the problem was at the css level and not at the pl level chibaguy: ok, easier to fix, I hope. xavi: by fixing the relative path to the andreas08.css (at the customized site1.css), everything back worked fine
yes, and it's a fix of the user, not from tiki, which is even better :-)
tiki works very well with styles also in multitiki installations chibaguy: are you happy with the blue backgrounds on the menu hovers? xavi: once you manually copy the missing tpl to the right place of the templates folder
oh, no, no, there are many more blues that I need to change to greens in my customized theme style, if that is your question
same for calendars, forums, etc chibaguy: ok :-) xavi: it's a work in progress
:-)
thanks for feedback :-) chibaguy: sure CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23907 10/trunk/ (lib/filegals/filegallib.php templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl): [MOD] filegals: modify some strings in order to be more explicit ***: franck has quit IRC ()
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ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23908 10/branches/4.x/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] correct grammar. Still not clear how fixes in language files are merged. Will I need to this again in trunk?
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23909 10/trunk/styles/ (coelesce.css layout/layout.css): [MOD] sortable fancytables headers: behave like cssmenu links on hover xavi: mmm, I see that newsletter (already in 3.3) allow for attachments. I wonder where are they stored, and if they could be stored also in the file system instead of db (where I guess that they are stored right now)... marclaporte, any clue? -: xavi dislikes huge db backups with many big files inside
marclaporte has same dislike
marclaporte would never send attach in a newsletter though
xavi agrees with marclaporte then :-) (I just tried because one of his clients might be willing to use it) ***: GillesM has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
GillesM has joined #tikiwiki Beestje: I've been trying to fix a bug concerning exporting tracker items : see bug http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2912
but i'm unable to figure out where it goes wrong. Exporting tracker items inserts a blank line after every 100 items (value of $maxrecords)
I'm not really good at php programming or smarty as of yet and I've been going through the code but I don't see why there is an extra line inserted...
I'm using tikiwiki 3.3 for the moment xavi: Beestje: ask jonny, he is doing the same (afaik) in trunk or 4.x (improving the tracker item export)
as reported on the irc log from yesterday ( http://irc.tikiwiki.org )
fyi Beestje: aha thanks!
will look into it xavi: yw Beestje: i'll see if i can get a hold of him when he comes online later on ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) xavi: mmm, tiki-assignpermission.php is not working for me in tiki 3.3 (in two different tiki 3.3 installations). There might be a problem...
I'm willing to grant a few permissions extra to anonymous group, and after I click on "update" button, no changes are saved... (permissions are not granted)
on the other site, I saw an apache error...
both sites are on the same server, and all the rest of those tikis is working fine, afaik ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: verschiedene Berechtigungsstufen --> Wiki sinnvoll? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=35615 xavi: wtf*, there is something weird with tiki-assignpermission.php in tiki 3.3... in this other site, after we (recently) upgraded from 2.4 to 3.3, we had the Admins group with no perm granted for plugins yet (ok, so far, so good)
but the "Editors" group, have those perms greyed, checked, and uncheckable, with the word "Admin" in a box on the right hand side , and there is no group "Admin" but "Admins"...
oh well... then I try to grant the 3 perms related to plugins to the group "Admins" (they have tiki_p_admin also already), and I get: You don't have permission to access /tiki-assignpermission.php on this server. (with a scary apache white page)
I mean a 403 Forbidden page from apache
to me that there is something wrong in the LTS for assigning permissions... ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki
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luminoso has joined #tikiwiki xavi: aha, after conversation with sys admin in that server, I got the source of the problem, and workaround :-)
tiki-assignpermission.php in tiki 3.x seems to send the whole bunch of permissions for a group in the POST variable to the server, even if you just assign 1 new perm. And the suhosin patch for apache seems to restrict the size of the POST, so that it gets truncated at some point, before reaching the new permission/s to be assigned Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Extra details on user registration - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35616 xavi: that was for group "admin", which includes (inherits) many many perms from the lower level groups
ok, workaround: filter first for a section (wiki, in my case), so that the list of perms is reduced to a smaller number. Assign the perms related to plugins, and then it works with no problem
Moreover, there seemed to be a problem with mod security (with the standard rules coming to Debian based servers), which was causing error 403 with that tiki-assignpermission.php .... once the sys admin disabled modsecurity for our site, tiki-assignpermissions.php worked as expected with the workaround described above marclaporte: will you report the bug to suhosin? xavi: hi marclaporte, it might very well be not a bug, but a conflict between the size of the post that tiki sends, and the size of the variable allowed by default values by suhosin in apache, which (as far as I've been told) it's customizable.... marclaporte: ok xavi: so the chances that they will not consider it a bug are high (maybe similar for tiki, which wouldn't be considered a bug, but some "bad luck" of using such a long default list of perms) marclaporte: so nobody's "fault" but it's doesn't work xavi: btw, thanks for message introducing to the author of jquery spreadsheet...
"it doesn't work": well, it does, if you filter the long list of perms for a section first
or if you moun your sys admin to find out how to increase that default size in suhosin ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki xavi: or if you moun tiki gurus on how to send at the post variable only the perms that changed, and not the (maybe) full list ;-)
moun? (checking again at the dict) ricks99: hi all :-) xavi: hi ricks99
:-) ricks99: hi xavi xavi: s/moun/mourn marclaporte: xavi : most people will never know what went wrong xavi: marclaporte: I know
what do you suggest? (while keeping in mind that I still have a long todo list for today)
filling a wish report at dev.tw.o? marclaporte: hahahaha
yes, so at least people may find
and put the workaround xavi: yes, ok, I'll do tat CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23910 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX]: wrong commented line xavi: and another one, ricks99 and/or marclaporte: I'm allowing anonymous to subscribe to newsletters in a few tiki sites, but I fear spammers consuming tiki resources and server resources... I through that adding the captcha to newsletter subscription (if anon and if settings are such).... Two questions:
(1) Do you think that it makes sense to reduce real resource cosumption (tiki and or server)? marclaporte: the same way we want World peace xavi: (2) Do you think that it's difficult to add, copying how it's implemented from somewhere else likein comments? (I've never done it, but It looks to me that I might succeed by copy pasting some lines of code in trunk and proposals/4.x proposals/3.x)
:-)
sorry, wrong formulation of my (1) question. Now I realize. I meant (1) do you think that this change might help to reduce resource consumption (tiki or server)? marclaporte: deploying captcha should be easy.
captcha will save you time of deleting bogus emails xavi: I guess that right now, without captcha, if a user or spammer adds rubbish there (or fake emails), tiki will just send an email to email account, and get some bounce back once, I guess...
ok, thanks for your time, marclaporte, for feedback marclaporte: they can add thousands very quickly xavi: of course I know we all want World peace ;-) , but does was not my intended question marclaporte: hehe :-) xavi: my mistake of defective formulation initially marclaporte: catcha should be everywhere xavi: ok, back to working to do those things... marclaporte: for anons xavi: captcha everywhere for anons: +1 marclaporte: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/trunk/tiki-edit_perspective.php
see pm for login
I think you will like :-)
a GUI to search, and drag & drop the result of the search, to override any of the 1000+ preferences per workspace xavi: :-) yes, I wil
will
back to work on real (released, I mean) stuff marclaporte: :-) xavi: glad you are making such big improvements to make them real in the future :-) chibaguy: If anyone is adding extra javascript via the L&F admin, I'd like to know if they have success, or problems. It isn't working for me.
(sent a mail to the dev list also) marclaporte: chibaguy : are you using {literal} ? chibaguy: yep marclaporte: when you are ready to see the future: go to workspace x. click edit, go to edit tab, search a preference (if it's in lesser magic, it will be found), then you drag and drop the pref to that perspective, where you can edit/override luciash: polom chibaguy: hey luciash xavi: hi luciash
marclaporte: I'm not ready for the future yet, ;-)
btw, chibaguy (or luciash, or anybody of course): can wiki syntax be used in custom site footer?
in tiki 3.x? chibaguy: maybe it needs the {literal}{wiki} tags. luciash: hi chibaguy ! hola xavi !
xavi: in {wiki} it should work, and if you use curly brackets, then add the literal smarty tags
weird it shows still 0 downloads on https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/ xavi: wohoo! it works! great! ***: luciash changes topic to: Welcome to #tikiwiki! Just ask, don't ask to ask ;) Tiki 4.0 is out ! Don't paste multiline code/errors here please. Channel is logged @ http://irc.tikiwiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude msg from log), type !help or >help to get some info from our bots ;) Enjoy! xavi: luciash: I downloaded the tar.gz at least twice this morning for 4.1, and one for 4.0to4.1 ***: luciash changes topic to: Welcome to #tikiwiki! Just ask, don't ask to ask ;) Tiki 4.1 is out ! Don't paste multiline code/errors here please. Channel is logged @ http://irc.tikiwiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude msg from log), type !help or >help to get some info from our bots ;) Enjoy! marclaporte: luciash : stats take time to update
yay for 4.1! xavi: ok luciash: salut marclaporte ! :) marclaporte: now, we can promote like mad! xavi: shouldn't we first confirm that it just works? luciash: marclaporte: yes, _you_ can ;) marclaporte: hahahahahahha
I will! luciash: :) -: xavi is in process of testing the tar.gz luciash: tw.o - why can't we have 64M there ? Tikiwiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project. -: xavi likes the idea of using what we announce that it's the minimum needed to tw to run xavi: we should all use 32Mb, I would say, if we say that this is the min. requirement...
this way, coder would focus more on better ways of designing/improving features...
when there is not need to consume that amount of memory luciash: hmmm, but tw.o is huuuge site, not minimum site xavi: huuuge in what? luciash: huuuuge in number of users and features on xavi: users? wiki pages?
ok, then, user list whould be optimized...
features? consumption in one feature should be fairly independent on others... luciash: we don't say "Tiki needs a minimum of 32M to run any kind of site" xavi: and if the problem is using categories, freetags, search and perms, then this problem would be also for not so huge (in users) sites luciash: number of wiki pages too,yep
well, dogfood is nice but it sucks usability when doing simple tasks like saving wiki page xavi: to me, the problem is of design, in order to support professional sites (use cases), not just small sites for a bunch of people playing around
yes, luci, but what sucks (imho) is the way tiki over-uses (eats) memmory, not that tw is using 42 Mb of ram per php call luciash: i wonder what is set up wrong there xavi: so +1000 to the effort planned by marclaporte and lph in jan'10 to improve tikis efficiency using memory
for trackers, or anywhere else... luciash: chibaguy: i use JS in L & F with no problem marclaporte: xavi : sorry to tell you, the contract didn't come through
I thought it was a sure thing, but they went with other priorities chibaguy: luciash, in tiki 4? luciash: chibaguy: in 3.3 at least chibaguy: ah ha
for me, too, 3.3 is ok luciash: chibaguy: let me try in 4.x chibaguy: ok thanks xavi: marclaporte: oups, ok :-/. Those things happen... marclaporte: yup
but the budget came through for other goodies
one-click access to a resource xavi: marclaporte: (and all admins here) improving efficiency in using memory would be soething I would vote for investing whatever resources we get at the Tiki foundation (association)... marclaporte: xavi: I think funding code with association money is very risky
we'll get into all kinds of debates on priorities luciash: xavi: yep, we agreed on that xavi: marclaporte: I know, how should I promote code refactoring or redesign for efficiency/efectiveness in using memory? marclaporte: we need to get projects with heavy load xavi: s/I promote/WE promote marclaporte: like Mozilla xavi: and expect that they will clean (optimize for memory consumption) the code? marclaporte: yes, it's in their interest because they will save $ on hardware
help us with bug triage on support.mozilla.com for Tiki5 Tikiwiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . xavi: yes, but trackers is not on their roadmap, afaik marclaporte: true, so we need to get them to use :-) xavi: and trackers would need some care and attention... luciash: chibaguy: which textarea ? marclaporte: a user tracker for their volunteers for example xavi: :-)
anyway, how many hours did you plan to invest in jan for lph to have a look at that? marclaporte: 16h chibaguy: luciash, I use the html head custom code textarea to add the script link and script lines, also css sometimes. -: xavi wonders if you could get some help from others people to fund lph's work xavi: s/others/other luciash: chibaguy: it works marclaporte: last time in London, he did a few hours for fun (he was bored from Worskspace stuff) and he improved performance of like 10-20% on a dump of doc.tikiwiki.org (I think) luciash: chibaguy: <script type="text/javascript">alert('It works !');</script>
chibaguy: just added this in "Custom HTML <head> Content:" chibaguy: hm, ok. I wonder why, for example, the infinite carousel script stopped working for me at two branch 4 sites at about the same time. luciash: chibaguy: try on your local copy first chibaguy: also I've tried other jquery scripts with same result. luciash: chibaguy: maybe it's some ohertel's stuff stopping it work chibaguy: it stopped at zukakakina.com too. luciash: paste me code to try chibaguy: ok luciash: chibaguy: just an idea... maybe you can try to move it to header or footer custom code textarea as the jquery script call got moved to the end of document in 4.x iirc chibaguy: ah, yeah, ok. luciash: when it is dependent on jquery it kind of makes sense... chibaguy: does it work to move scripts out of <head> and into <body>?
anyway, putting the carousel script and another into the footer custom code textarea doesn't seem to help. luciash: good job whoever upgraded http://tikiwiki.tv/ to 4.1 ;)
yep, scripts can be in body, just not the script calls
afaik chibaguy: ok, well I don't have time right now to do more checking, but appreciate your advice. :-) luciash: by script call i mean <script type="text/javascript" src="..."></script>
chibaguy: where is the code pasted to try ? ;) chibaguy: just a minute please
er, kind of hard because you also need a div with the class or id in a wiki page, and same-size images to display. ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I tried this also: http://www.edgarverle.com/shadow/default.cfm
sorry, I'll have to give you the code later. I don't have much time right now. luciash: chibaguy: fine, later gary chibaguy: ok, thanks. Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: FCK editor issues - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35619 xavi: ok, the tiki4.1-tar.gz file worked for me: basic install and applying personal blog profile
and confirmed that this profile is not creating a calendar, as it should according to its documentation luciash: ftp upgrade went smoothly with the incremental upgrade file :) xavi: nice! ***: luminoso has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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irc.freenode.net sets mode: +ooo chibaguy marclaporte luciash CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23911 10/trunk/ (styles/layout/layout.css templates/tiki-show_page.tpl): [FIX] wiki page: the "technical" hr below the wikitext must have visibility=hidden style for being hidden in Internet Explorer
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23912 10/trunk/tiki-admin_newsletters.php: [FIX]newsletter: use new perms fct as the old one seems not to work sometimes ***: xavi has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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chealer_ has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) chibaguy: hi jonnyb, sorry, was away from pc. jonnyb: hi gary chibaguy: the problem is I've tried to use other jquery scripts and they haven't worked.
altho at least one did in branch 4 for a while jonnyb: which ones? chibaguy: infinite carousel jonnyb: on admin/look/ui-effects? (i don't see it, or remember it) chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/Infinite_carousel
no, it's an added script, via L&F custom head code
the script and link show up ok in the page source, but no effect
it works in 3.3 (or did the last time I checked). jonnyb: did you check for JS errors? (there are a few) chibaguy: how do I check? -: chibaguy is js clueless pretty much jonnyb: the "Can't find variable: $" one is probably key - in tiki $ should be $jq
look at the error log of your browser
log/window chibaguy: ok, thanks, I'll do some checking. jonnyb: which browser? firefox & firebug i'd guess
try in the firebug console?
away for a while, bbl ***: jonnyb is now known as jonny|nearby
chealer has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: chibaguy : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+figure+out+what+revision+number+causes+a+bug chibaguy: thanks, marclaporte. I thought I filed a bug report on this, so will try to find it. marclaporte: nothing beats telling a specific person that they introduced a specific issue in a specific commit chibaguy: true ***: sylvieg has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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:) ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki
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ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte Beestje: hello jonnyb jonnyb: hi Beestje Beestje: I'm trying to fix a bug regarding exporting trackers to csv files, and xavi pointed out to me that you were working on a memleak for 4.x for exporting trackers jonnyb: indeed - which bug were you tackling? ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki
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changi|work has joined #tikiwiki Beestje: I don't think they're related tough... my bug : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2912
i get a blank line in my csv file every 100 lines (which is the value of maxrecords)
but i'm still running 3.3 sylvieg: btw jonnyb thanks for fixing this one jonnyb: ok, ok - i saw that one & fixed it - it's in the tpl (which i'm not using any more) - hold on...
it's in templates/tiki-export_tracker_item.tpl - line 29 (in 3.x) needs not to have a new line after it (so it reads: {/if}{foreach from=$items item=item} all on one line)
sylvieg: i'll commit my changes to trunk now we're split from 4.x - hopefully it can go in 4.2 marclaporte: 5.0 is soon! jonnyb: :O sylvieg: ahah... the $ versus $jq - thx jonnyb - I think it is the solution to my problem... ***: Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki Beestje: @jonnyb : Thanks!!!! it works :)
but you knew that already :) jonnyb: :) ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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pkdille has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Beestje: another Q concerning exporting of trackers (don't shoot me if i've overlooked it somewhere): Is there a setting for the default separator value for exporting? I always have to change it from , to ; ***: pkdille has joined #tikiwiki
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irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o luciash xavi: Beestje: I don't think so. Workaround: Use OpenOffice for importing... works fine as is with the exported values, afaik (even in 3.x) Beestje: well, it's not so that I'm unable to import it properly using some mickeysoft app ... it imports fine. ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki Beestje: but i'm from belgium and we use a comma instead of a dot for decimal numbers .... which is pointless if your separator is set to a .... comma
and i've set it up so that some managers can export tracker items so they can make nice 'n shiny reports to impress ... uh ... themselves
and a manager just wants to click on "I NEED IT YESTERDAY" and he will often forget to change the separator from , into ;
so i just would like to know how I can change the default separator on the export tracker items page
The quotes will prevent the improper import of the decimal numbers, but sometimes they import it using an office app and save it again which will sometimes get rid of the quotes... so then disaster strikes and I look stupid because they couldn't import properly...
managers require idiot-proof solutions
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pkdille has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) jonnyb: Beestje: you could hack what you want into tiki-export-tracker.tpl - line 33 (but don't forget about it for when you upgrade ;) ) ***: RavenC has quit IRC ("~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~") Beestje: tnx jonnyb : i'm hacking it now. But it would have been nice if it was an option (system-wide or tracker-wide or even for individual trackers) jonnyb: indeed ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki
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@jonnyb : thanks again for fixing my issue and pointing me in the right direction!!!! ***: luminoso_ has quit IRC ("Leaving") jonnyb: no probs - have fun! ***: luminoso has joined #tikiwiki
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AceSMcCloud has joined #tikiwiki AceSMcCloud: Hi all, new tikiwiki installer here... I've been through the website and forums, and tried some fixes, but nothings helping me overcome the "must have cookies enabled" error message I get, I am of course on windows hosting... Can someone point me to an update fix for 4.1 ? ***: olinuxx has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: What version of Windows? AceSMcCloud: I believe 2003 running IIS6 ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki AceSMcCloud: Ah marclaporte, yes seen your nick on a lot of the pages I've been reading. CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23919 10/trunk/ (10 files in 7 dirs): [MOD]fgal: display nb backlinks in fgal AceSMcCloud: Unfortunately, I was so giddy with excitement at the wealth of features of tikiwiki, I didn't check to see if it was fine on windows hosting and presumed it. ***: luminoso has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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perhaps if you could test on II7... AceSMcCloud: nope, I'm not an admin of the hosting
Seems a bit drastic for a cookie/login problem marclaporte: "must have cookies enabled" could be irrevelant error message AceSMcCloud: quite, but it's preventing me logging in, so it's in the ballpark, so to speak. nkoth: can you check if there is a php session cookie set in your browser as you visit the site?
is the site SSL or not? RavenC: where do you have your php temp directory pointing to ? AceSMcCloud: looks like, no it's not using SSL
where can I find/check the temp dir? RavenC: i usually just just create a test php file with the phpinfo that shows the default settings AceSMcCloud: there's like 16 instances of "TEMP" on the phpinfo page
C:WINDOWSTEMP I imagine is it ***: pascalstjean has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) RavenC: yeah, I had session issues with the default. I created a c:temp directory with full permissions (everyone=read write) and had php us that as its temp location
us=use ***: fantoms has joined #tikiwiki AceSMcCloud: Well, other CMS's manage it, I've used Joomla on this hosting before.
Shouldn't it use a TEMP dir under the tiki folders? RavenC: I don't think it really matters. I just had folder permission issues under the windows directory. ***: Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) RavenC: i wouldn't want my session files sitting under inetpub :) ***: Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki RavenC: I would think that if joomla worked, then it is probably something else. AceSMcCloud: yeah
I noticed the odd www.domain.com//tiki-index.php error and applied the "fix" for it, along with others for this bug, but it's not worked. ***: fantoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") AceSMcCloud: Then again, I'm not 100% confident in them as they only give a line number and not the actual code, so if it's changes, that fix is out of date/incorrect.
Other fixes mentioning cookies, I look in the files and there's no code matching the fix code, so again, fixes well out of date it seems.
Do all the pages have to begin with "tiki-" ? ***: skbohra_ has joined #tikiwiki
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Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) nkoth: with the sefurl (not sure if it works with IIS) the urls are rewritten ***: Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki nkoth: umm, wild stab now: check the cookie path - if it's assigned for a subdirectory it may not work if your site is mapped to root ***: skbohra has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
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skbohra_ has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2932 - - Blue Help Circle will not drop down in IE works in Firefox - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2932 ***: nkoth has quit IRC ()
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Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie AceSMcCloud: nkoth, good suggestion, managed to look at that and the path is just / I do know that can be a common cause for all cms
I also entered mydomain.co.uk for the cookie domain ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki luciash: AceSMcCloud: is your domain starting with dot ?, name ? path should be maybe pointing to your subdir
AceSMcCloud: i noticed this "cookie" problem when the path to subdir contained spaces too AceSMcCloud: no subdir, just in the root luciash: but it might be simply something else, just the error message is same (i am no windows/IIS expert) AceSMcCloud: hmm.. might not have a . before it ***: timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI AceSMcCloud: were is that in the db? ***: skbohra_ has joined #tikiwiki CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23920 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-anchors.tpl: [FIX] typo ***: timotiCK has left AceSMcCloud: I was able to access it and make changes from a Chrome web browser, which was the one I'd used to actually install it, I believe someone said they had the same thing.
ie. they could access and make changes from the install file
of course.. I'm not at that PC now... so I can't get in to put the "." before the domain name...
and I can't see which table it is in mysql ricks99: @AceSMcCloud: most site settings are in tiki_preferneces table AceSMcCloud: ricks99 ahh.. thank you , I was looking for config, setup, settings... ricks99: yw AceSMcCloud: ok.. nope, still no joy luciash: grrr, i don't get it, i removed all the eacute; etc entities from czech language.php but now on 4.1 site they appear again for example on page tiki-admin.php?page=i18n AceSMcCloud: there is a cookie in my temp internet files luciash: is it because i imported the language into database and use database for translation or do the string escape in the tpl for that page ???
the language.php seems clean from them (no appearance of &eacute; etc) ricks99: @luciash: r u using DB for translation?
if so, u need to re-import from lang.php file ***: skbohra_ has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
skbohra_ has joined #tikiwiki AceSMcCloud: This "congratulations" page is starting to annoy me. ***: skbohra__ has joined #tikiwiki luciash: ricks99: that's what i did and now i have all those "broken" acutes and umls
ricks99: :( ***: skbohra_ has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) luciash: AceSMcCloud: i am sorry but you have to give up with IIS i guess and try apache AceSMcCloud: That's very dissapointing of tikiwiki.... from all it's claims, and long list of features. luciash: breadcrumbs do not support wiki structures and wiki structures paths bar does not respect WYSIWYCA :(
which one to fix ?
AceSMcCloud: i am sorry, we do not have many developers and users able to test on IIS
AceSMcCloud: thanks for giving it a try anyway, maybe we can fix that in next version but without userbase it is hard to spot and fix these problems AceSMcCloud: Website says you have lots of developers, how hard is it to get some Windows shared hosting for testing/developing? nkoth: I know we are trying to work with MS for IIS7 (they are offering help there ), but with IIS6, I hthink most of our windows users are using apache
*most* if not all MacLeod: Is anyone planning a public demo of Workspaces besides edu.tw.o? nkoth: pascatsthean and I will be trying somthing out, but possibly end Jan, early Feb luciash: bbl ***: jonnyb has quit IRC ("nite nite") AceSMcCloud: what should I see in the cookie? ***: sylvieg has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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timotiCK has left AceSMcCloud: I don't think it's even setting the cookie CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03pingus * r23921 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/modules/mod-workspaces_resources.php: [FIX] Corrected $ownurl to work inside ws_desktop. Should fix creation from desktop modules luciash: re -: AceSMcCloud sighs AceSMcCloud: I so wanted this to work, because of all the features built in, and the tracker. RavenC: It is sweet. I had no success at all with it running under IIS6. When I built a 2008R2 server, it was a breeze. luciash: AceSMcCloud: you can maybe see the cookie value if you add phpinfo(); for debugging to the end of code in tiki-index.php file and compare in the two browsers
AceSMcCloud: what makes you stick with IIS6 ? AceSMcCloud: it's a package, already got lots of domains on it.
hmm...
when I click the back button or try to go to tiki-login.php it tries to go to www.mydomain.co.uk/tiki-login_scr.php
if I go to www.mydomain.co.uk/tiki-login_scr.php it keeps adding a on the end
no sorry, a /
fecking path thing, like I said, not sure those instructions still work for current release marclaporte: RavenC: did you document somewhere? AceSMcCloud: Anything else out there that has something like tracker and the basics of a cms? Darn Joomla has next to nothing builtin and requires a tone of pluggins to get started. luciash: AceSMcCloud: maybe you can try Xaraya and its dynamic data hooks, but it is not trivial to work with their block layout templates system
AceSMcCloud: and I have really no idea if it will work on your server anyway AceSMcCloud: :/
whole point was for something fully featured, quick and easy to setup
so it works on IIS7, but not 6? ***: skbohra has joined #tikiwiki
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skbohra has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: AceSMcCloud : I wish there would test for Windows and use them AceSMcCloud: hmm? RavenC: 01AceSMcCloud:01 which version of TikiWiki ? AceSMcCloud: 4.1 ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away RavenC: I didn't change any file in the TikiWiki directory before running the install and it all worked correctly (tw 4.0) AceSMcCloud: on iis7 or 6? RavenC: IIS7 AceSMcCloud: hmm... wonder if iis7 emulates apache more... RavenC: must be something improved, as I spent about two weeks trying on IIS6 with no success, and finally installed a wamp server. Tried it on 2008/IIS7 later and was amazed that it worked. AceSMcCloud: wamp ? luciash: >whatis wamp Sug4r: Error: No factoid matches that key. AceSMcCloud: there's something wrong with www.mydomain.co.uk/tiki-login_scr.php luciash: >learn WAMP as Windows + Apache + MySQL + PHP Sug4r: OK, here we go! AceSMcCloud: ah, rather than WIMP :p RavenC: :) AceSMcCloud: could it just be incorrect paths?
this / and \ business RavenC: Time for me to call it a night. There is a drink with my name on it somewhere! Best of luck Ace, and have a nice evening to all ***: RavenC has quit IRC ("~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~") AceSMcCloud: thanks RavenC, yeah I'm calling it a night... will sleep on trying again tomorrow.. or back to googling for another CMS.. :/ ***: chealer has quit IRC (jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) marclaporte: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/csdl/abs/html/mags/so/2009/06/mso2009060004.htm -> About the Tiki model
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