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   btiffin: every once in awhile, need to say.  TikiWiki is a groovy system.  A very groovy system.  Thanks.
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   pilif12p: Hey, i get an error on Tikiwiki about line 898, that line is firefox/downloads/latest/11966/addon-11966-latest.xml?src=addondetail"&gt;
   <br> I'm trying to embed a firefox search plugin
   Kimberlee: dunno, sorry.
   <br> I'm not sure if anyone else is here right now...
   pilif12p: oh
   -: pilif12p is *trying* to write a patch for mozilla sumo
   Kimberlee: ic, try the forum?  or maybe try back later?
   pilif12p: i can mess around with it a bit
   Kimberlee: good luck, sorry I couldn't be of help.
   pilif12p: np
   <br> ugh
   <br> i'm a total php n00b
   <br> its an html part
   <br> do i just add &lt;html&gt; &lt;head&gt; &lt;link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" title="Sumo Search" href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/latest/11966/addon-11966-latest.xml"&gt; &lt;/head&gt; &lt;/html&gt; because it's supposed to be in the head
   Kimberlee: where are you trying to add it?
   pilif12p: one sec
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   pilif12p: <u>Lucymoz</u>: Ohai!
   Lucymoz: hey
   pilif12p: I knows you!
   Lucymoz: :)
   <br> I just idle here
   pilif12p: heh
   <br> I'm trying to write a patch for sumo
   <br> let me look up the bug id
   <br> <u>Lucymoz</u>: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399394
   <br> <u>Kimberlee</u>: Do you know much about this error ? http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/webroot/tiki-page_loader.php
   Lucymoz: <u>pilif12p</u>: so what are you stuck on?
   pilif12p: <u>Lucymoz</u>: Well, it won't load
   <br> Maybe i need to install tikiwiki?
   Lucymoz: what won't load?
   pilif12p: i dunno
   <br> i get an error
   -: pilif12p chmod's
   Lucymoz: I'm a bit lost, are you trying to install tikiwiki?
   pilif12p: I think so(?)
   <br> chmod took care of that error
   <br> ffff
   Kimberlee: <u>pilif12p</u>: I was afk, so you are good?
   pilif12p: kinda
   Kimberlee: heh
   pilif12p: i need to install it
   <br> but
   <br> tiki-install redirects to index
   <br> <u>Kimberlee</u>: ^-
   Kimberlee: have you run setup.sh?
   pilif12p: mhmk
   <br> nno
   <br> sorry, i misread
   <br> someone on another network is really making me angry...
   <br> just ignore me...
   Kimberlee: :)
   pilif12p: i think Lucymoz probably knows who i'm talking about ;)
   <br> i don't get it though...
   <br> setup.sh
   <br> coding at 1 am :P
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   chibaguy: poliom
   <br> polom also
   <br> Is it possible to include a smarty template in wiki content?
   pilif12p: <u>chibaguy</u>: Are you in the helping mood ?
   chibaguy: I would like to use tiki-searchbar.tpl in custom header code.
   <br> <u>pilif12p</u>: I can try.
   pilif12p: ok
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: so, pretty mich http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/webroot/index.php
   <br> *much
   <br> I ran install.sh
   chibaguy: try going to tiki-install.php
   pilif12p: i did
   <br> it redirects to index.html
   chibaguy: well, when I install tiki, i don't use install.sh
   pilif12p: oh
   chibaguy: I just put the files up, and run tiki-install.php.
   pilif12p: maybe marclaporte will help me tomorrow...
   <br> its kinda different
   chibaguy: ok
   pilif12p: It's a patch for mozilla sumo and stuff
   chibaguy: what version of tiki is it?
   pilif12p: i dunno
   <br> whatever sumo has
   chibaguy: ah, ancient
   pilif12p: all the sumodevs are on vacation now i think
   <br> 3 iirc
   chibaguy: sumo will be using Tiki 5 early next year, as I understand it.
   pilif12p: I can check it out...
   chibaguy: they forked at about tiki 1.10 (pre tiki 2)
   <br> but it has been modified a lot for specific sumo/firefox use, and imo is kind of a nightmare.
   pilif12p: heh
   chibaguy: things are done way differently than in tiki core code.
   pilif12p: yeah
   chibaguy: apparently does the job, but kind of unfamiliar to me.
   pilif12p: yeah, it does
   chibaguy: I've been helping with the theming of mozillamessaging.com, which will use the sumo code.
   pilif12p: oh
   <br> are you on mozilla irc ever?
   chibaguy: no, I've only communicated with a few guys via email and skype, etc.
   pilif12p: ah
   <br> mhm... who?
   chibaguy: roland tanlao and gozer
   pilif12p: ah
   chibaguy: tanglao
   pilif12p: no tmz?
   chibaguy: no, don't believe so.
   pilif12p: surprising :P
   chibaguy: is he involved in mozillamessaging.com?
   pilif12p: kinda
   <br> he's involved in lots of mozilla
   <br> QA, sumo, sumomo, mozillians, lots more...
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   CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24013 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_div.php: [FIX]DIV: changing default to empty and not none and avoid to have to important in css
   chibaguy: thanks, sylvieg :-)
   sylvieg: welcome - I hate so much !important...
   chibaguy: I thought that change would be ok for you. ;-)
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   xavi: toctoc
   <br> I need some help with custom layout at a site header... in http://gavarrespedia.org
   <br> chibaguy ?
   <br> or luciash ? (the layout guru's :-) )
   <br> I did set some wiki code in site header area (using {wiki}{literal} tags {/literal}{/wiki}...
   <br> and sometimes, it displays properly, and sometimes it doesn't
   <br> by "properly", I mean: the image at the right hand side should move to the right end of the header, for instance, and it's not always doing it.
   <br> Nowadays it was displayed to the right when I saw the page as anons, and not when I did log in...
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   xavi: and that's the code I'm using at L &amp; F: http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8
   <br> any hint anybody?
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   CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24014 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]rss: hidden prefs rss_basic_auth that ask for a http login box when a user has no perm to see the rss
   chibaguy: hi xavi, sorry, was away.
   xavi: hi GAry. cooking time here. bbl :-)
   chibaguy: ok
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   ricks99: hi all :-)
   chibaguy: hi ricks99
   ricks99: is trunk broken? i just svn'ed up. and now get " System error. An error occured while performing the request."
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   chibaguy: i haven't updated for a few days; i'll have a try.
   ricks99: tx
   chibaguy: hm, seems to be normal here.
   sylvieg: it is ok for me
   ricks99: hm...
   <br> i can run the installer just fine
   <br> but when i try to enter tiki, i get "An error occured while performing the request."
   <br> probably something on my end....
   chibaguy: in my case, it's win xp running wampserver2.
   sylvieg: did you upgade your db?
   <br> is mysql running?
   ricks99: y
   <br> brand new install - fresh db
   <br> 4.1 zip works fine
   sylvieg: do you have a table to repair?
   ricks99: phpmyadmin says all tables are fine
   sylvieg: your db/local.php is ok?
   ricks99: ahh.. adding $api_tiki='adodb'; to local.db worked. by why didnt i get the (expected) adodb error?
   sylvieg: did you allow error for anonymous?
   ricks99: i had never logged in to tiki. this was a brand new install
   sylvieg: you do not have pdo installed on this server?
   chibaguy: I wonder why adding that line is needed (server clueless guy speaking here)
   ricks99: its in the release notes ;-)
   <br> im running easyphp on winxp.
   sylvieg: we need to put a mesage or a choice in instal...
   ricks99: how +1
   <br> or.. on the installer page where we test for memory, etc.
   sylvieg: it will be too late... I think
   <br> ah non .. tikki-instal uses adodb?
   ricks99: dont know. but i was able to complete the installer just fine.
   sylvieg: perhaps a class_exists('PDO') will do the job...
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   RavenC: hello everyone
   xavi: back
   <br> hi RavenC
   <br> chibaguy still around ?
   chibaguy: hi xavi
   <br> yep still here.
   xavi: :-)
   chibaguy: So the problem is that the image isn't always at the far right side?
   xavi: have you ever noticed that behavior? after loging in, header behavior changes
   <br> L &amp; F code is here: http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8
   chibaguy: I have noticed at times in the past, the topbar menu didn't display until I logged in. But that didn't happen too often, so I never tracked down a cause.
   xavi: so using split for distribution of images at the header... for anon. everything works
   <br> as logged in, that split syntax doesn't work as expected, and the three images are shown alltogether aligne to the left
   <br> aligned
   chibaguy: I'm only seeing the image in the right-side cell, it seems.
   xavi: anyway, I wonder what's the best way to have the side images (logo on the left and pic on the right) always on the sides, and having the center expanding as much as needed to fit the width in between
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   xavi: don't you see the image on the left, this one: http://gavarrespedia.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=7
   chibaguy: no
   ricks99: @xavi: might need to use  tables -- thats what i use
   chibaguy: if I put that url in my browser, it doesn't display. I just get the file download dialog.
   xavi: chibaguy, yes, it's fine. so you should see the image in the header
   <br> it's beig used with img src=http://gavarrespedia.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=7 ...
   <br> <u>ricks99</u>: oh well, I was wiling to use wiki syntax... how can you do that with wiki syntx?
   ricks99: {HTML()}&lt;table&gt;..... {HTML}
   chibaguy: I see the site logo, I guess. Is that what the image is?
   xavi: I know how to force the % width of each splitted part with SPLIT plugin, which is easier for me (wiki wiki)
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: yes, that's it
   <br> but once logged in, the display changes....
   chibaguy: oh yeah. OK.
   xavi: I'll create a test user for you to reproduce
   chibaguy: ok
   xavi: there might be something different at the generated html
   chibaguy: this shouldn't matter, but I noticed the table cell widths don't match their contents' widths very closely.
   xavi: mmmm, as a new reg. user, everything is fine... :-/
   <br> still checking why with two users it doesn't work as expected....
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   xavi: aha... the problem shows up when the user is an admin...
   chibaguy: this may not make a difference either, but I wonder why the div id="customcodewith_ad" is being used rather than just "customcode". Is a banner ad specified for the site header?
   xavi: mmm, I don't think so...
   <br> good question...
   <br> I was planning to set the image in a banner, so that the image changed each time from banners
   chibaguy: ah, that could be a key. when not logged in, div#header-top contains div#customcode. when logged in as admin, it contains #customcodewith_ad, which has 400px width.
   xavi: :-)
   chibaguy: I don't know why the two log-in states cause different div ids.
   <br> oh, maybe the ad is specified but not published or something like that.
   xavi: maybe admin can be shown some info up there....
   <br> to me this is a css issue (bug)
   <br> anyway, the solution: just removing the fixed width from that css #customcodewith_ad ?
   <br> I'll try that...
   <br> btw, logging off from this computer and soon again from another...
   chibaguy: yeah, that's good to try.
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   chibaguy: actually, i just tried a local edit of the site css in firefox/firebug, and that fixed it (changed customcodewith_ad to customcode).
   <br> so it seems the 400px width is the problem.
   xavi: thanks chibaguy! that makes lots of sense to me
   <br> btw, off-topic, luciash, whenever you are back, you have to test the kde 4.3. File tagging in the file system! (using dolphin as file manager): video tagging finally possible!!! :-)
   <br> I have some personal homework for the next weeks : tagging the collection of 100 Gb of videos that I use for my classes... it won't be a nightmare to find a video anymore... :-)
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   xavi: <u>customsitewidth</u>: auto in my customized theme did the trick, to overrride the settings in layout.css
   <br> I wonder if that setting is needed in layout.css to be with fixed width
   <br> using 3.3
   <br> anyway, time for fixing color issues to apparently merge images with bg
   chibaguy: xavi, is the customized theme you mentioned based on andreas08?
   xavi: yes
   <br> <u>customsitewidth_ad</u>: auto did the trick, I meant
   chibaguy: customcodewith_ad ?
   xavi: #customcodewith_ad { width: auto}
   <br> yes, you are right (I'm fixing my other computer, and many keyboards and screens in front of me right now...
   chibaguy: the site identity options were kind of set up by guessing. I didn't really know what would be put in as custom code.
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   xavi: oh well, very good guess by then, if that was the only issue :-)
   <br> Gary, the good guesser :-)
   pilif12p: darn, still no marclaporte?
   chibaguy: the 'customcode with ad' option was done thinking there would be a banner ad taking up a lot of the space, so only 400px width was allocated for custom code.
   <br> If something wide like your table of images is put in there, then the results would be unpredictable.
   xavi: oh well, to me, since I discovered how to use wiki syntax there, it's being "the" way to handle easy headers from now onwards, with images...
   <br> table of images?
   <br> right now, just one image
   chibaguy: ah, ok.
   xavi: and I was planning to play with banner instead of hardcoded image
   chibaguy: <u>pilif12p</u>: maybe you should email him.
   xavi: image in banner, and several banners like that in the same zome
   chibaguy: or ask on the tikiwiki developers mailing list.
   pilif12p: he came by mozilla irc but then he ping'd out
   chibaguy: he seems to be pretty busy these days.
   xavi: <u>chibaguy</u>: the custom heder code (using split plugin): http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8
   <br> header
   pilif12p: Do you think you can help me?
   chibaguy: xavi, yes, I saw that
   <br> <u>pilif12p</u>: it's about installing the sumo code?
   pilif12p: Yep
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: ^
   chibaguy: I had trouble trying to install on localhost and never did get it running. it seemed to want things some way I didn't know how to configure.
   <br> there's a lot of code modification to suit the mozilla site.
   pilif12p: Yeah...
   chibaguy: but I'm not very knowledgeable about server config, etc. so maybe you have a better chance. ;-)
   pilif12p: i'll poke around, all the sumo devs are on vacation though :/
   chibaguy: gozer did an install for me on one of their servers so I could test, in the end.
   pilif12p: oh
   chibaguy: work with tiki core code. it's much easier. ;-)
   pilif12p: heh
   <br> its a sumo-specific bug though
   chibaguy: oh, ok.
   <br> anyway, gotta go now. see you all later.
   pilif12p: see ya'
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   CIA-63: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24017 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: syntax error
   pilif12p: CIA-63=bot?
   sylvieg: yes
   pilif12p: ah
   <br> i see
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   mose: polom
   pilif12p: polom ?
   mose: yes, polom
   pilif12p: i've seen that
   <br> what does it mean?
   mose: this is an old tradition on this channel
   pilif12p: i see
   mose: a generic greeting
   pilif12p: oh
   mose: refering to the mumbling that tom bombadilom is emtiing when entering the forest to warn its inhabitant that somone is getting in
   pilif12p: ah
   mose: I actually began to use that 6 years ago here and it became sortof a meme
   pilif12p: i see
   <br> there are 2 bots in here ?
   mose: at least I see 3
   pilif12p: oh
   -: mose kicks CIA-63
   CIA-63: ow
   mose: that's also one
   pilif12p: bot
   <br> Tikiwiki|bot is a bot i assume?
   <br> !help
   mose: it pretends to
   Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
   mose: Sug4r also probably is
   pilif12p: Oh
   <br> yep
   <br> supybot
   RavenC: I'm not, I just act like one at times...
   <br> :)
   mose: we all do
   pilif12p: heh
   <br> people always think i'm a bot :
   <br> :/
   mose: you have a bot-like name, dude
   pilif12p: on moznet
   <br> its Tanner
   <br> someone stole my nick here
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   ricks99: <u>Q</u>: in trunk... how can i change the properties of a toolbar button -- one of the existing Formatting Tools? do i have t create my own Custom Tool?
   <br> i cannot figure out a way to edit an existing toolbar tool/button
   mose: hi ricks99
   ricks99: mose!! hiya
   mose: you talk about fck ?
   ricks99: no. toolbas (replaced quicktags in 3.x) for wiki editing
   mose: oh
   <br> I'm so obsolete
   ricks99: been a while, eh?
   <br> not at all. we missed u
   mose: I'm ending my study period now
   <br> thinking about getting back into business
   ricks99: gr8
   mose: with 2 more skills in my pockets
   <br> I know speak chinese
   <br> and I also can do some java
   ricks99: java is good
   -: ricks99 know no Chinese, though
   mose: java is easier than chinese
   <br> but surprisingly more people speak chinese than java
   chealer: polom!
   <br> (mose is getting in!)
   mose: hey cheal
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   chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: the installer still uses ADOdb, indeed
   <br> hi mose :-)
   <br> <u>ricks99</u>: what do you mean by "why didnt i get the (expected) adodb error?" ?
   ricks99: I expected to see "could not find driver" but instead simply got "An error occured while performing the request"
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: so we were saying that EasyPHP doesn't provide PDO?
   ricks99: simply saying that the error message was useless for me
   pilif12p: What does http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/trunk/webroot/ mean?
   ricks99: "could not find driver" is meaningful (and mentioned in the release notes)
   <br> "An error occured while performing the request" tells me nothing
   pilif12p: and how do i fix it?
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   ricks99: does that make sesne chealer?
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: yes, sorry, but you got that error because EasyPHP doesn't ship PDO, right?
   ricks99: using easyphp 2.0.0.0, have no idea about pdo (i'm a windoze-kinda-guy)
   pilif12p: <u>mose</u>: do you know what the error on http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/trunk/webroot/ means?
   chealer: <u>pilif12p</u>: is this really Tiki trunk?
   pilif12p: <u>chealer</u>: it's sumo
   mose: <u>pilif12p</u>: sorry, I'm obsolete
   pilif12p: mozilla sumo
   <br> i see
   mose: but if I wanted to know, I would just look at the code
   pilif12p: line 11 is $access-&gt;check_script($_SERVER["SCRIPT_NAME"],basename(__FILE__));
   mose: and use grep, a very good friend
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   pilif12p: grep?
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   pilif12p: heh, i dunno how to use that :P
   chealer: <u>pilif12p</u>: so that's not exactly a Tiki install?
   mose: you can just before line 11 add echo $_SERVER["SCRIPT_NAME"]." ".basename(__FILE__);
   pilif12p: <u>chealer</u>: no, it's not
   chealer: though the problem seems to be with $access
   pilif12p: oh
   chealer: <u>pilif12p</u>: in that case this might mean... that Mozilla introduced some bug. it's non-trivial to support you without seeing the codebase
   pilif12p: i'll read their guide for installing TW
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: EasyPHP 2.0.0.0 certainly doesn't seem current. you may want to upgrade
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   ricks99: y. my main issue was simply, the error message (generated by tiki or apache?) was useless. is there any way to have tiki (1) test for adodb in the installer and/or (2) send more helpful messages?
   Caarrie: <u>ricks99</u>: check svn i think that message was changed a few days ago
   ricks99: i svn'd up first thing this morning
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   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: you say you just svn'ed up but also that this was a brand new install. you just mean you installed using fresh code?
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   ricks99: y. checkout from svn to new directory. new db. everything completely clean and fresh
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: this must be a PDO issue.
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   mose: non dans un bouillon
   <br> oops mischan (haha)
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   SEWilco2: Yay!  Update to 4.1 worked!  Yay!  :-)
   luciash: polom !
   <br> <u>SEWilco2</u>: take it as a x-mas present ;)
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   luciash: can somebody change the logo at http://www.linkedin.com/groupInvitation?groupID=118987 ?
   marclaporte: luciash : can you join the group? I'll make you admin :-)
   luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: i am nt registered with linkedin and i don't want to (yet)
   <br> *i am not
   <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: just stumbled upon it ;)
   marclaporte: hehe
   SEWilco2: No, StumbleUpon is something else.  :-)
   luciash: :)
   SEWilco2: I suppose that SomethingElse is something else.
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   SEWilco2: Oh, it's not.  somethingelse.com is a parked domain.
   marclaporte: luciash : done
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   marclaporte: Hi Rodrigo "Altitude" Sampaio
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   luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: thx
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   sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: happy birthday I do not know exactly when - but it is pretty close
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