chealer: nope. I don't. I've got a couple of changes that I'd like to be implementing but don't have very much experience yet.
in a way it's nice to have someone review a patch before it's commited.
oys: you can always ask for review if you're really unsure. do you known Subversion or version control systems in general?
sort-of.. I've ran one for a personal project once.
oys: good. let's see if an admin could grant you commit access.
so... if you give me access, i promise to do my best not to break anything and read up on it before making a commit
nkoth: are you around?
hey ibrrorg
rice just left TikiFestNY
ah, thanx!  so, did he learn enough to save us?!  ;-)
ibrrorg: he seemed happy, but I guess he'll know better :-)
appreciate ya'll letting us sit in!
it was nice to learn about such a particular use case
oys: did you read http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3Rules ?
reading now
ibrrorg : Matt was here!
on the tele with him now
he seemed happy
says he was VERY HAPPY!
actually, we hired luciash to do the tracker convert to wiki page; i did the tracker part
did u get the chance to see the site?
i can code a bit (a lot in mediawiki) but tiki just seemed to be a better fit and so i am now learning it as i go
he showed us the site and project Magellan, yes
good, i am in hopes in finding some books on tiki---any recommendations?
ibrrorg: we told rice about TikiWiki for Smarties
not really a book, but close
There are no books, to buy. I think all people that want to contribute content prefer to contribute freely on Tiki-powered sites
read almost all the site and really like it, but i would actually like to start to learn the nuts and bolts so to speak so i can start to get under the hood
ah, can understand
heya ibrrorg :)
hey luciash howya doin?  did the fellow get ahold of ya?
nice to hear your mate liked tikifest :)
i emailed him and gave him high marks for ur work
yeah, he was really impressed by the openness of it
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24457 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: [ENH] If wiki_mandatory_edit_summary and no comment entered show prompt dialogue box for one to be entered (closes wish2087?)
i was crazy busy whole night and day, maybe tomorrow evening i will contact him, but no promises :)
i don't know him; googled his site and he seems to be a heavy hitter in norway
yea
np
i already spoke here with him
emailed me w/a bunch of ASAP stuff and i told him hey the fella will contact u when he is free
was the documentary at imdb interesting for you btw ?
chealer: reading now. also looked through dev tips. just to double check: CR line-feeds are the ones without ^M at the end, right?
VERY i actually posted it in a comment on our video section
cool
now your fellow mates can say they've met bona fide hobos!  no more hieroglyphics scrawled on the bridges---we're in cyberspace  ha ha ha
*g* :)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24458 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage-include-edit.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] "wiki shows no preview in translate edit mode" by removing the condition to avoid showing preview in preview mode, of which I don't understand the reason. Ref issue ID 2446
tikiwiki: alain_desilets: might want to check this
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24459 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] Category jail default should indicate that this is a serialized pref
oys: CRLF is longer than LF. CR can be displayed as a junk ^M on Unix systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRLF
chealer: I figured it out. I was just confused by the fact that fck_tikilink.php uses CRLF when the devtips say not to.
now that I've read it, I'm ready to make my first commit :)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24460 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] if jail is zero, we should allow non-categorized objects to be seen as well, i.e. consider as no jail
oys: oh...
marclaporte: do you have the time to give me svn write access
oys : can you add to your stack here? http://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki
sure!  What is your SourceForge username?
eoyslebo
oys:  fck_tikilink.php actually has UNIX newlines in trunk
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24461 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] redo prev commit (cleaner code): if jail is zero, we should allow non-categorized objects to be seen as well, i.e. consider as no jail
welcome oys! https://sourceforge.net/users/eoyslebo
and thank you for your contributions
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24462 10/trunk/installer/schema/20100117_old_doc_tw_o_url_tiki.sql: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] "Help system: upgrade script should update to new destination on doc.tikiwiki.org" (issue ID 1132)
tikiwiki: Thanks Marc Laporte
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24463 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Category jails not setting properly with serialized pref
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24464 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] fixing should work with serialized category_jail pref setting
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24465 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Non-empty category_jail pref does not necessarily mean in perspective. Because it can be 0.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24466 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [DOC] add comment
sylvieg1 : you around?  I am wondering in PluginTrackerItemField works for categories?
or luciash would know with SNiPTT Social Networking in Pretty Tiki Trackers
 New Forum Posts: use comment for external tiki pages - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=36037
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24469 10/trunk/tiki-list_object_permissions.php: [ENH] Add group type to list object perms
have you guys seen http://etherpad.com/7GExuK4i5h ? It would be interesting to explore how something like that could be integrated with a Wiki.
it's basically collaborative editing in realtime.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24471 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] rollback r24314 as it breaks #anchor links.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r24470 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] typo
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24467 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Add links to perm "reason" on object perms list to edit them (half of wish2870).
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24472 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] Proper rollback of r24314
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r24473 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Show category watch icons for all categories in browse category tree. Still need to implement for phplayers.
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r24474 10/trunk/tiki-browse_categories.php: [FIX] Tidying up - no functional change.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24475 10/trunk/lib/commentslib.php: [FIX] name and description are ambiguius (in both tiki_objects and tiki_forums
luciash: the spamers are reported back you might need to chanage mode again
oys : realtime editing would be nice
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24476 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Show object names instead of object Id in object permission list
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24477 10/trunk/tiki-list_object_permissions.php: [MOD] Remove unnecessary call (looks like previous cut and paste left behind)
marclaporte: a simple way to implement it would be if each WikiPage had a link to http://etherpad.local/WikiPage-talk
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24478 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: get_jail(): return empty array instead of null of there is no category filter
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24479 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-breadcrumb.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Last visited pages module filtering uncategorized pages
tikiwiki: From Nelson Ko
a more interesting sample etherpad page about the Haiti earthquake is here: http://etherpad.com/ep/pad/view/p6at5gEKvz/latest
oys: thanks for your commit
polom
 New Forum Posts: Blog doesn't automatic approved? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=36039
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2992 - - Language.php has strange characters codification - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2992
polom
 New Forum Posts: Adcanced wiki syntax - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36041
 New Forum Posts: Advanced wiki syntax - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36041
 New Forum Posts: Forum Reply Error $_POST["thread_sort_mode"] - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=36043
 New Forum Posts: Questions/Answers tikiwiki based site - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36044
Caarrie: CIA-77 looks dead, are you aware of anything?
nope
but i can take a look in a few
Caarrie: thanks
chealer: does https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki look right?
chealer: http://cia.vc/stats/project/tikiwiki is updating correctly, bot seems to be acting up
Caarrie: it does look right
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=24079&vpn=CT12864AC667&manufacture=CRUCIAL%20TECHNOLOGY
 New Forum Posts: unable to create a new group - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36045
is there a foss generic translation project that I can lookk to for inspiration when translating a new language?
I feel that especially for "standard" phrases such as "New forum post" etc, there must exist prior work. this would also be good for consistency.
Caarrie: CIA-7 doesn't seem better than his father...
no idea you could try their irc channel
If I install php 5.3, should I expect total explosion in Tiki?
Caarrie: do you know if there's anyone responsible for the bot here?
for cia? anyone that wants to, i have access to it on cia.vc but nothing says it is not working
rlpowell: IMHO it is the same risk than 4.x ... more or less
rlpowell: you shouldn't, but we experienced at least one OpenID issue. there are surely more...
heh
I would think PHP 4 on Tiki 4 is much, much worst thatn 5.3
Caarrie: there were several commits since yesterday. some less than an hour ago
i know they are on the cia website, but not here
Unfortunately, I'm hitting some very bad memory problems.
Pages with lots of tiki links are running out of memory... the limit is 128MiB
Which is insane.
tiki links as ((page))?
Yes.
Caarrie: right. sorry, what did you mean then by nothing says it is not working?
the website about this cia bot looks correct
It happens in just 3 lines of tikilib.php, but I don't see that it's doing anything particularily unreasonable.
Caarrie: right, I just wish the bot actually worked
which is why i suggest someone try the cia irc channel
oh
that must be a spam issue
freenode
tryed using google translate to automatically translate all untranslated terms, but it was crappy and unreliable. has anyone experimented with "importing" translations from other foss projects?
oys: I didn't, but you may want to try #pootle
I'm trying to get Page Selector working in TW 4.  Might have found a tracker bug.  "page selector" type field shows ((10 Best)) instead of hotlinked 10 Best.
luciash: around
(That is a trivial bug for my test... I'm not getting the Page Selector tpl to display data.  Sigh.)
about SEWilco2 problem
I need to rol back the fix from yesterday showlinks is only for link to the item
sylvieg: Whatever.  I simply changed the pagetracker value so it did not start with a number.  It's just a test/demo and doesn't matter until client likes it.
(And because I'm not seeing output in the pseudopage, there's nothing for the client to see.  I'm trying to figure out how to debug Page Tracker.)
not sure I understand the problem
it display the parenthesis instead of the link?
or it is a parsing bug...
sylvieg: Yes, it shows (( )) instead of linking.  Happens when name starts with numbers.
If you do a lot of ((links)) in a row, after a while each additional link consumes 26KiB of RAM.  -_-
sylvieg: That's undoubtedly a bug in the code to list tracker items.  Separately, I'm trying to get Pretty Tracker/Page Selector working, but for that I can't tell whether I'm hitting a bug or not.
Not good.
chealer?
rlpowell: I assume you mean PHP RAM, not browser RAM.
SEWilco2: Corroct.
0.o
It's str_replace.
Leaking really badly. :(
hi sylvieg
I answered on devel - why taking away the tiki search
depending on appllication I use or the other - because tiki search works on parsed info
rlpowell: Maybe you should file a tracker item so someone will remember to take a look.
SEWilco2: I kinda have to fix this now; it's breaking my site.
s/../I use the tiki search
SEWilco2: And it's a PHP bug anyways, not a tiki bug.
(unless that's what you meant?)
rlpowell: I hate when that happens.  I don't hear anyone commenting on it.  It's obviously in the wiki parser.  Maybe there's a different PHP function which can be used.
rlpowell: At least you've narrowed down the problem very well.  I'm only getting to stare at an empty area where data should be. :-)
Oh, are you hitting something similar?
SEWilco2: in which view you have the problem with ((10 Bugs))?
pretty tracker? view item? view tracker?
sylvieg: The one which lists the items which are in a tracker.  The regular tracker item list page.
strange I can not reproduce..
sylvieg: I'm not getting any Pretty Tracker output, so there's nothing to see there.
sylvieg: I think this is a TW 4.1 site... whatever the recent stable version is.
ok I am on trunk.. I am always in the wrong version when I test..
sylvieg: Well, take it as a hint that someone might have fixed it in trunk.
sylvieg: there was no strong reason, but to kill code and simplify building on restored MySQL-centricity.
hello everyone
I'm trying to install tikiwiki but I'm having an error in the installer right after I select a template
I get a blank page and an error in the logs:
PHP Warning:  asort() expects parameter 1 to be arr
ay, null given in /storage/var/www/htdocs/tiki/templates_c/en^%%F7^F7F^F7F34188%%header.tpl.php on line 139, r
eferer: http://neraka.no-ip.org:8081/tiki/tiki-install.php
(sorry for the multiline)
Kaapa: a "template"?
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2993 - - Cannot save my changes of a wiki-page - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2993
I'm sorry, the installation profile
Kaapa: Which profile did you choose?  I can't help you, but that info might help someone else understand better.
the default one
Kaapa: Did you try a different profile and still get that error?
yes
seems to be working now..
Kaapa: which Tiki version are you installing?
Kaapa: If memory serves me, that question comes after database initialization.  Did you click the button on the right to initialize the database?
Kaapa: It's working?  I fixed it!  :-)
heh
chealer: 4.1
what!?
This is TikiWiki 1.9.7
oh... god...
Kaapa: eh, I don't think Tiki 1 is still supported
God?  Where!?
Kaapa:  If you want to upgrade, I think the path is to go to 2, then again upgrade to 3, then again to 4.
Kaapa: Thanks for checking the version.
SEWilco2: no, I want a fresh install. but I had an ond version and I forgot about it
I was puzzled, cause looked... really ugly :)
Oh, so your Apache config was pointing at the old place?  Yeah.  Problem at the switchboard.
PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function iconv_
get_encoding()
when I try to test send email, is this known?
PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function iconv_
damn...
Call to undefined function ctype_digit()
there's something wrong with my php installation
SEWilco2: It's *not* str_replace leaking.  Yay.
rlpowell: So I hope you didn't file a PHP bug report. :-)
No.
Kaapa: which PHP version do you use?
Was working on a minimal test.
chealer: 5.2.11
Kaapa: what's your OS/setup?
chealer: linux, slackware, default Apache/2.2.13 (Unix) DAV/2 PHP/5.2.11
hum, my php was built with --enable-ctype=shared
Kaapa: the requirements are known to be incomplete. one might have trouble getting it to work on exotic systems.
I can't believe my system is "exotic"
something's fishy here
fixed!
bad php.ini
can somewhere give me a quick info on the profiles feature?
when I click on the apply profile now for company intranet, do I need to do anything else?
when I click on the profile, just stays on the "Loading profile" and nothing else
just saw a video that showed me that something else should have happened :p
Is there a way to get PHP to tell you what the memory limit is?
Not how much it's using ,but how much it *can* use?
php.ini memory_limit
if the asetting is on
From within a script, I mean.
ine_get('memory_linit') perhaps
ini_get
I found the memory problem; tikilib's get_page_info now caches a lot of info about every page in RAM.
If you have hundreds or thousands of internal links on a page, this gets problematic fairly quickly.