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   yohomer: that's mine
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   -: ricks99 needs help with exporting a tracker...
   ricks99: getting 500: internal server error when trying to export a ~500 item tracker
   <br> no error log is being generated
   <br> memory_limit is 64m
   <br> max_execution_time is 400
   <br> max_input_time is 240
   <br> anyone have an idea what the issue may be?
   <br> running tiki 3.3
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   ricks99: tracker xport issue ^^^ continued....
   <br> i did a mysql dump and restored to my local pc.
   <br> was able to export the tracker just fine
   <br> but using host (shred host - hostgator) i get 500 server error
   <br> any recommendations as to what i should check?
   luciash: where does it export ?
   <br> 500 error is usually caused by wrong perms on the dir
   ricks99: when i run it local, i get a save file dialog and i can specify where to save the csv file
   luciash: ah, i suppose it uses some tmp dir... does it look fine ?
   ricks99: the csv generated from my local tiki is fine
   luciash: or maybe 64m is not enough ?
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   ricks99: hm....
   <br> let me try to increase....
   <br> tracker cotains 11 fields, 548 items
   <br> is that considered "big"?
   luciash: sorry, ricks, just wildguessing :)
   ricks99: thats ok. a luciash guess is better than most.
   <br> pushed memory_limit to 128M....
   <br> clicking EXPORT button....
   <br> waiting....
   <br> waiting....
   <br> waiting....
   <br> ohh!!! Save dialog came up
   luciash: *g*
   ricks99: now saving
   luciash: :D
   ricks99: luciash -- ur awesome
   <br> bad tiki -- needs 128M to dump a ~500 item tracker :(
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   ricks99: man... if i get too many more users signed up on the site, i'll need 500M or more!
   <br> tx again luciash
   luciash: well it is 6028 fields and it checks them all for some 33 types i guess :-/
   <br> np :)
   ricks99: thats a major performance issue though, no?
   <br> i guess it is basically the same problem we have when using a trackerllist for a large tracker?
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   luciash: yes, hopefully it will be better in Tiki 5
   ricks99: backport for 3.x LTS ?
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   Cain: Hi,
   <br> !help
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   gerbert: how can i increase the max number of characters for wiki page name?
   <br> also, how do i make wiki quick edit module's input field longer? thanks
   ricks99: @gerbert: to increase the max page name, need to change the tiki_pages db table
   <br> currently, pageName is varchar(160).
   <br> would need to increase max size as needed
   <br> for the quickedit module, use the size=### parameter when u assign the module
   gerbert: thanks a lot ricks99
   ricks99: ur welcom
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   rmcc4444: I turned on SSL for my site and now i can't login in. I have SSH access to the server so can i change this back in a .conf file somewhere?  v4.1.. thanks
   ricks99: @rmcc4444: do u have access to the database?
   rmcc4444: <u>ricks99</u>: yes..
   <br> via phpadmin
   gerbert: <u>ricks99</u>: can i make quick edit module's input field multiline as well?
   ricks99: edit the tiki_preferences table
   <br> u can turn off the *_ssl feature
   rmcc4444: let me get there and see if i can figure out what you are referring to, ricks99 .. one sec
   ricks99: acutally, i think ur looking for "https_login"
   <br> change it back to "disabled"
   <br> @rmcc4444: no. page names cannot be multiple lines
   rmcc4444: <u>ricks99</u>: im opening up phpadmin now
   ricks99: oops that should be @gerbert: 01no. page names cannot be multiple lines
   -: ricks99 so much help... so little time :-)
   gerbert: agree
   rmcc4444: <u>ricks99</u>: Ok, Im on the Structure tab
   ricks99: @rmcc4444: you'll want to BROWSE the tiki_preferences table
   rmcc4444: <u>ricks99</u>: I dont ssee a browse option. I can ssh into the box or there is another GUI tool I could try if that helps.?  What I see is a list of a bunch of tables.. most start with tiki_
   ricks99: using phpmyadmin?
   rmcc4444: I found the browse
   <br> :)
   ricks99: in the list of tables, click tiki-preferences
   <br> the right column should now show you the STRUCTURE of the tiki_prefernces table.
   rmcc4444: <u>ricks99</u>: ahhhhhhhhhh. cool. so most of tikiwiki settigns are stored in db, not in conf files?
   ricks99: correct
   rmcc4444: Ok, I found it . its set to required..
   ricks99: change to "disabled"
   <br> should b able to now login using regular http
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   rmcc4444: disabled.. ahhhh
   <br> That worked like a charm. thank you
   ricks99: np
   rmcc4444: Is it because I dont have ssl cert created on my server?
   ricks99: did u have the correct https port?
   rmcc4444: I thought so.. 443.. thats what nmap had it running on as well
   <br> oh well. ill deal with it later.. im still learning..
   ricks99: instead of "require" can use "allow" (will give u the choice at login)
   rmcc4444: also, i notice the login box at the top right in FF doesnt display as nice as it does in chrome and IE. is this a known issue?
   ricks99: this way you can still have it "on" for testing, but can use regular http as a fallback
   rmcc4444: ahh. good point. will do that
   ricks99: depends on the theme
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   rmcc4444: its currently on coelesce
   <br> is there one that is known to be best for cross brwoser compatibility?
   ricks99: i think tikinewt is the most basic one ... but quite ugly
   rmcc4444: lemme look
   ricks99: but works weel for ie6-8, ff 3.x-3.6
   <br> if u find a theme issue, post it (with screen shot) in forums are
   <br> *area
   rmcc4444: bug or fourm post?
   <br> btw, tikinewt looks ok to me
   ricks99: do both: bug &amp; forum :)
   rmcc4444: ok. doing now
   <br> thx
   ricks99: np
   rmcc4444: why isnt tikiwiki more used?
   ricks99: ?
   rmcc4444: or maybe it is and i'm new to the party.. it seesm joomla, drupal, etc. are much more popular.. is that an incorrect assumption?
   <br> i know they serve different functions
   <br> but.. i always hear about JOOMLA JOOMLA JOOMLA... but never really tikiwiki
   marclaporte: tiki is a secret
   <br> http://tikiwiki.org/Model
   ricks99: imho, it is because (until renctly) tiki was very de-centralized -- no overriding foundation or commerical backing
   luciash: heheh
   ricks99: -what marc said
   luciash: <u>rmcc4444</u>: you can help spread the word ;)
   marclaporte: I have a different angle, it's because Tiki has always been centralized.
   <br> All info in one place
   rmcc4444: all..
   marclaporte: when you have hundreds of modules on hundreds of sites, you get lots of backlinks
   rmcc4444: ahhh, rather
   marclaporte: and a lot of Google Searches
   -: ricks99 sees things 180 degrees different than marc. must be a canadian thing
   rmcc4444: so that is all changing?
   marclaporte: But what Rick is saying about commercial backing: I agree as well
   ricks99: sometimes beauracracy is good. look a sumo as a prime example
   rmcc4444: Is there nwo commercial backing?
   marclaporte: Joomla, very early, with Mambo put emphasis on look &amp; feel
   <br> surely because of commercial backing
   ricks99: when i say commerical backing i mean like confluence with atlassia
   marclaporte: ah, yes.   Well, use it's decentralized commercial backing :-)   as you explained above
   <br> use -&gt; us
   rmcc4444: well, im an anarchist so im all for de-centralization of authority
   <br> <u>aka</u>: privatize everything
   ricks99: then tiki is perfect for u
   rmcc4444: but thats another IRC channel i suppose
   ricks99: anyone who wants to add anything can (as long as it is optional) :-)
   rmcc4444: ya.. ive been in open source for quite some time.. but mainly just in the big boys.. linux, apache, bind, dhcpd, etc
   marclaporte: <u>fyi</u>: http://www.wikimatrix.org/statistic/Consultants  Tiki near the top here
   ricks99: again, all have formal foundations or commerical backing
   <br> with very strong beauracracy
   marclaporte: rmcc4444 : do you code?
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   rmcc4444: <u>marclaporte</u>: Not much moer than bash scripting..  Everytime I start to get into coding I get off on something else then end up doiing the hello world script again the following year
   <br> Im more of an Architect guy
   <br> www.cajunbrain.com
   marclaporte: rmcc4444 : can you access http://www.computer.org/portal/web/csdl/abs/html/mags/so/2009/06/mso2009060004.htm ?
   <br> this and http://tikiwiki.org/Model should give you great overview
   rmcc4444: <u>marclaporte</u>: yes. wiill read now. thx
   <br> I am printing out the Model doc as we speak
   <br> are you guys regular contributors?
   <br> of code that is
   marclaporte: and if you can travel:  http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestConfoo2010
   <br> yes, we are
   <br> Rick is UI wizard
   <br> bedtime for me...
   <br> zzzzz
   rmcc4444: From what Im reading, your philosophy of software development aligns with personal views..  decentralize to the extreme.. nice
   ricks99: rick?
   <br> wizard?
   rmcc4444: nite
   ricks99: g'nite
   rmcc4444: can u see this?
   <br> http://i.imagehost.org/0558/RUR_screenshot.png
   <br> my comp is acting odd
   ricks99: rise up radio
   rmcc4444: cool. thx
   <br> we currently use ruleoflawradio but their website SUCSK
   <br> Heres my post on the issue..
   <br> http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=36219&amp;forumId=4
   ricks99: what's the alignment issue?
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   ricks99: make the logo narrower or expand the screen width
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   rmcc4444: heres the bug report..
   <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=3023&amp;watch=add
   <br> hey.
   <br> ill change back to the theme and see what it looks like for you
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   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3023 - - Login prompt alignment issues with coelesce theme in Firefox - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=3023
   <br> New Forum Posts: Login prompt not aligned properly - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&amp;comments_parentId=36219
   rmcc4444: now im confused
   <br> check this out
   <br> http://riseupradioshow.fythmf.com/
   <br> btw, it will eventually be riseupradioshow.com.. its just being staged
   ricks99: looks good on my screen
   rmcc4444: ok.. u on linux?
   <br> and what browser(s) did u try it with?
   <br> brb
   ricks99: ff 3.5
   rmcc4444: ok.. wouldnt it still be a bug if it works for one theme and not another ony my screen?  seems that the layout is hardcoded in some way
   ricks99: as a test, using ff on ur pc, reduce the font/image size
   rmcc4444: k. one sec
   ricks99: Ctrl -
   <br> [ctrl]+[minus]
   rmcc4444: went from 16 to 12 and it looks great
   ricks99: y. need to either:
   <br> 1. use a narrower logo
   rmcc4444: there is no need for the logo to be that big. i could reduce it 25%
   ricks99: 2. dont float the image/use fixed with div
   <br> cool
   rmcc4444: well i dont know how to float things, so ill go w/ option 1.. :
   <br> :)
   ricks99: lol
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   rmcc4444: im assuming that would be a css modification, eh?
   ricks99: prob should still test on mobile devices (iphone, etc)
   <br> y, or customize the heading
   rmcc4444: true. lemme reduce it and upload new image
   <br> btw, where do you live?
   ricks99: nc, usa
   rmcc4444: cool.. louisiana here.. moved from boston about 5 years ago
   <br> hows this lookon your end? http://riseupradioshow.fythmf.com/
   ricks99: looks good 2 me
   rmcc4444: k. cool. thx
   ricks99: np
   yohomer: nc has the weather lately, eh
   rmcc4444: u ever use chrome? i actually just got around to it for the first time a couple weeks ago due to FF issues.. its damn fast.. i hate that its big brother google tho
   luciash: <u>rmcc4444</u>: u can try it's open source sibling chromium instead
   ricks99: still digging out of the blizzard
   <br> like chrome a lot, even more now that greasemonkey is native
   rmcc4444: <u>luciash</u>: Didnt even know it existed. will get now. thx
   luciash: <u>rmcc4444</u>: it's basically my default browser now
   <br> <u>rmcc4444</u>: it's mostly the same serving as development base for Chrome, just different name ;)
   rmcc4444: i dont see using apt-get
   <br> hmm
   luciash: u have to add their daily snapshots repository
   rmcc4444: check for it now
   <br> do the addons work?
   luciash: yep
   <br> http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu
   rmcc4444: you dudes have all the answers. thx
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   luciash: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
   <br> better ;)
   rmcc4444: jsut came back and saw this
   <br> :
   <br> installing now. did you say the addons work?
   luciash: yes
   rmcc4444: nice
   luciash: any idea why this command gets stuck ? → svn export https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk tiki5.xsvntrunkexp
   rmcc4444: i have no idea.. hmm. it wont launch
   luciash: it worked some time ago for me
   rmcc4444: says opening but never opens
   luciash: what, chromium ?
   rmcc4444: woops.. it was hidden behidn another window. i have to close FF
   <br> brb
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   rmcc4444: looks slick
   <br> doesnt appear to be an IRC addon yet
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   marclaporte: polom
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   chibaguy: polom
   coaboa: Hello
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   sylvieg: do we have a carousel on images that simulate aa animate gif?
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   chibaguy: sylvieg, there was a jquery cycle script and now in trunk there is jquery infinite carousel, but these are more complicated to set up than a simple animated gif. You need to put js initializing in the L&amp;F head custom content, and use some specific css in a wiki page, to get the cycling.
   sylvieg: :-( A stupid customer who wants to do animated banners with only simple image
   chibaguy: Is it possible to just use an animated gif?
   sylvieg: They even do not know how to do an animated gif
   chibaguy: Hmm
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   frank_____: hi @ all
   <br> i have a litle problem with the ~pp~ tag in article. In the preview it works but after i saved it the text between will be parsed again
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   luciash: <u>frank_____</u>: why not ~np~...~/np~ ?
   <br> ~pp~ is for preformatted paragraph or omething (generates &lt;pre&gt;)
   <br> bbl
   frank_____: i tried ~np~ also
   <br> with the same effect
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   ihsan_: hi. I want to hide table borders in wiki syntex. How can I do this?
   <br> for example, i use the following syntex to create table..
   <br> ||row1col1 | row1col2 ||
   <br> but how can I hide borders in table?
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   RavenC: hi all
   coaboa: <u>ihsan_</u>: Use Plugin SPLIT instead
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   coaboa: <u>ishan_</u>: or PluginFancyTable see doc.tikiwiki.org for usage
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   frank_____: someone an idea about my article problem above?
   <br> are article and wiki get parsed in a different way?
   ricks99: @frank_____ should work the same. what is your tiki version?
   frank_____: i tried it in an older 3.x and in 4.1
   ricks99: ~np~ foo ~/np~ works on my 3.x and 4.x sites
   frank_____: the thing is, that it workes fine in the preview but not in the saved version
   <br> strange
   ricks99: not sure. :-(
   <br> r u using HTML in the article? is the "allow html" option enabled?
   frank_____: no, i don't use it
   ricks99: if so, try turning it off
   <br> instead of using ~np~ you can try using the {CODE()}......{CODE} plugin
   frank_____: turnig html off dose not work
   <br> and i think CODE will not work for me, because is use a latex foruma in that line with two "^" and need the ~np~ just to turn of the wiki parsig, because the ^ produce a box
   RavenC: I need some help.  Still trying to get a "webmail" account selector without having to go to the webmail/settings page.  I have two group email accounts and I'm trying to replicate the "activate" feature there.  In my menu, i have the url for email one as tiki-webmail.php?locSection=settings&amp;current=1 .  It changes the group email to that, but it takes me to that page.  Is there a sytax that I can use so that it keeps me on the
   <br> i should say, it changes the webmail inbox to that group email account
   sylvieg: do we have a random fileId - to do the same than the module random_images but for fgal?
   RavenC: If I am on the webmail page, ?locSection=settings&amp;current=1 works, but not from other pages
   sylvieg: sorry I did not use webmail since 2 or 3 years
   RavenC: np...  I was just hopeful there was some kind of "self page" or something in the wiki syntax that I was overlooking
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   ibrrorg: im setting some permissions---i have some pretty trackers that i want some groups to have access to and not have access to---when i set the permissions for a group there is a box to check that says admin wiki, does this refer to the ENTIRE wiki or only the part that they are cleared for?  thanx and tiki 4.0
   ricks99: entire wiki
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   luciash: it means admin whole wiki
   <br> the perm you are looking for is probably tiki_p_view...
   ibrrorg: ah, thanx---i went in and removed that option so i just wanted to be sure
   ricks99: note that wiki is just for the *wiki* feature. *tracker* perms are different
   ibrrorg: yeah, i created a test account and am playing w/it.  my site has some 'interesting' applications of information so i am kinda pushing the limits right now
   luciash: if you want to disallow access to the wiki page containing the pretty tracker and want to be sure they cannot see the tracker using the standard tracker listing, you have to limit the access for the tracker too
   ibrrorg: is my theory correct:  take a group and assign it 'x' permissions and thus you can allow/limit access by simply assigning the group in the perms for page-by-page access?  see, what throws me is when i assign the group it kicks me to a screen and then brings up a whole slew of options again
   luciash: e.g. by creating a category with the specific object permissions and assigning both (wiki and tracker) to this category
   ibrrorg: ah, ok --- well'p let me head back over and keep tweaking on it --- hope allz well w/everyone!
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   <br> tikiwiki: [ENH] try to put javascript inside {jq} bloc to put them at the end of the page
   <br> tikiwiki: Please test to see if something breaks...
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   tricia: hi all, using TRACKERFILTER, select on user filters=206  works gives text box but filters=206/d gives cryptic error: tracker field type not processed yet u  any ideas ??
   <br> also want to propagate the selected user to automagically filter other trackers on the same pages is this possible ??
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   wggley: Hi guys
   <br> it's me Wallace from Brazil
   <br> I'm trying to do the things right to bring some ppl over here for a TikiFest
   <br> If Marc pass over here, plz tell him that I wanna talk to him
   nkoth: <u>wggley</u>: sure. stay in the channel. late July TikiFestBraizl?
   wggley: nope
   <br> September
   nkoth: k
   wggley: tell him 'cause FISL is something different
   <br> FISL is doing from ppl over another state and I don't have contacts over there for FISL
   <br> but we can sediate TikiFest over Rio de Janeiro on september
   <br> I gotta go now, cause my wife is calling me
   nkoth: k, I ut my name as interested on http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBrazil, if dates are more or less set should up date the page...
   wggley: I do prefer Marc doing that
   <br> I gotta go now
   <br> cya
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   tricia: any TRACKERFILTER experts on   irc ?
   luciash: hi tricia, wassup ?
   tricia: hi luci  getting error "tracker field type not processed yet u" for filters=206/d   but filters=206 works, 206 is a user field anywhere I can look for this ?
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   luciash: what is 206/d ?
   tricia: 206 is field # for a user field in the tracker  206/d is supposed to give a dropdown list
   luciash: what gives 206 only ?
   tricia: filters=206   that works fine
   luciash: if it is documented like that and it doesn't work then it is probably a bug (regression)
   <br> if it gives dropdown
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   luciash: then you don't need /d
   tricia: i'm using v3.3 will play around &amp; report if it's a bug,  I want the d so that the operator can see the list of possible users  ...
   <br> thanks
   luciash: and 206 gives what ? no dropdown ?
   tricia: just a text box
   luciash: ah, ok
   <br> seems a bug to me
   tricia: never used it before so wasn't sure !
   luciash: check out wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php
   <br> what is there for the filters param as filter ?
   <br> it should allow "/"
   tricia: I don't understand the question ?
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   tricia: <u>luci</u>: found the problem code check for cap D   not lowercase d !   strange ...
   luciash: ok, good catch
   <br> (sorry, was afk for a little while)
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   tricia: it's more than,  that found both but strange switch will take a further look     no worries thanks !
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   sylvieg: somebody changes the menu behavior they are closed each time
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24798 10/trunk/lib/prefs/search.php: [MOD] better string
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   sylvieg: dammit trunk is broken...
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   rmcc316: hello.  just finished the "Model" doc.  it sounds a lot like my personal philosophy on life
   <br> That part about people asking for an API was quite comical
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   rmcc316: I set shoutbox to appear to the right and set it to anynmous but it doesnt appear..  http://riseupradioshow.fythmf.com/tiki-index.php   .. it looks like space was made for i can see it. any ideas?
   sylvieg: need a perm tiki_p_shout...
   ricks99: did u give anonymous perm to use the shoutbox?
   rmcc316: oddly enough i see it was admin
   <br> <u>ricks99</u>: hmmm.
   ricks99: u see it as admin, because admin has all perms
   rmcc316: rigth. where would i start to do this?  modules?
   <br> when i created the modile i selected ANONYMOUS if thats what you mean. do i need to do it somehwere else/
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   rmcc316: the only speical thing i did was assign flip=y ..
   <br> id be happy to give you an admin account if you want to look at it
   sylvieg: it is again minify css that kills my trunk
   rmcc316: If I dont select SHOUTBOX in the Features section, will it not work when I create it as a module?
   <br> I have it selected in Features, but just curious how all of this ties together.
   chealer: <u>rmcc316</u>: it wouldn't show, indeed
   rmcc316: thx chealer . I now have an issue where I created it and set so anonymous could see it but it doesnt show.. however, it shows for admins
   <br> http://riseupradioshow.fythmf.com/tiki-index.php
   <br> on the right
   <br> you can see where it looks like it allocated "space" for it but it just doesnt appear
   ricks99: for the anony group u need to add the perm
   rmcc316: I found it. I ALSO have to add the permission for the group
   <br> i see what you mean ricks99 .. ok.. another piece of the puzzle solved in my brain
   RavenC: <u>rmcc316</u>:  /tiki-assignpermission.php?group=Anonymous  add permission
   <br> oh, you got it...  :)
   ricks99: it isnt enough to simply turn the feature on. u need to explicity allow groups to use it
   rmcc316: Ya.. Its making more and more sense each day
   <br> I see
   <br> Can I turn captcha off for just the shoutbox?
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   <br> tikiwiki: Also change keyup to keypress to eliminate spurious warnings.
   ricks99: good primer on anonymous permissions: http://bit.ly/aaHrSZ
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   ricks99: &lt;shameless plug&gt;
   rmcc316: Did you write smarties? I've read that.  Going throughit again as we speak
   <br> Great resource for TW n00bs like myself
   ricks99: only one ricks99. (thank goodness)
   rmcc316: Awsome man.. I
   ricks99: tx
   rmcc316: you should make that into a book ...
   <br> stay true to your anarchist roots and create common license it though. ;)
   ricks99: it is.
   rmcc316: but sell it on amazon, etc
   ricks99: u can download it as a pdf from scribd
   <br> it is redistriutable via cc-sa license
   rmcc316: i know. i did. but i mean actually publish and sell it on amazon, etc
   <br> help raise money for the project
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   ricks99: paper is a poor medium for an always-moving product
   rmcc316: I was thinking more along the lines of just bringing more exposure to the product
   ricks99: a wiki is the perfect vehcile (imho)
   rmcc316: I agree technically, just not from a PR perspective
   ricks99: that was my original goal, but folks like packt (and most publishers) do not accept non-solicted manuscripts
   <br> looked at using blurb, lulu, etc. but too hard to make it look really nice. didnt want to have to re-layout the doc each time
   rmcc316: wouldnt someone like lulu do it?
   <br> ahh
   <br> ok
   ricks99: scribd is nice and easy. takes me 5 min to dump the wiki structure into a pdf.
   rmcc316: ya.. its an excellent doc
   <br> Ive read it all and going through it a 2nd time things are making more and more sense.
   <br> im just now realizing that the module link from the left menu is different from the modules link from the admin gui. ;)
   ricks99: ty. please feel free to edit/update/review as u see fit
   rmcc316: and module permissions kinda get lost .. seems they would stand well as a stand alone piece of the admin panel
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   luciash: upgrade to Tiki5 fails at installer :(
   <br> <u>Warning</u>: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in installer/installlib.php on line 229
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   luciash: Fatal error: Call to a member function get_included_groups() on a non-object in lib/tikilib.php on line 1463
   <br> :(
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   CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24802 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]trackerlist: option showrss
   luciash: minify css is still broken
   <br> minify javascript causes tabs and menu toggles unfunctional
   <br> so no minify for me in Tiki5 still :-p
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   luciash: any idea how to avoid this PHP error ? → PHP (5.2.9) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/internals/core.get_include_path.php Line: 34 Type: is_readable() [function.is-readable]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/local/share/pear/lib/smarty_tiki//compiler.sefurl.php) is not within the allowed path(s)
   <br> i have no possibility to change the allowed paths on shared hosting ftp only
   sylvieg: confirm minify broken for me too
   luciash: anyone successfully upgraded to trunk using the installer recently ?
   sylvieg: did fresh install this week end with no problem
   luciash: fresh install seems no problem, but upgrade ?
   <br> see the error above i get at upgrade step
   <br> 21:58 &lt;@luciash&gt; Fatal error: Call to a member function get_included_groups() on a non-object in lib/tikilib.php on line 1463
   <br> at the installer i also get "Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in installer/installlib.php on line 229"
   <br> it refers to some glob() function trying to get dirname + script
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   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: thanks
   <br> now i am stuck on the error after hitting the upgrade button
   sylvieg: the other one ... need to find time to upgrade
   <br> you can in the tilib.php - try to do an include_once('lib/userslib.php')
   luciash: yes, nm, thank you
   <br> ok
   sylvieg: if it is ok - it menas that installe.. does not include userlib and we are in a big mess.. I suppose
   <br> so an include (userlib.php must be included in the isntaller
   <br> if it changes nothing mena s that installer use include(userlib) without doing a global userlib
   <br> to trace this put a debug_print_backtrace in userlib.php
   luciash: function ?
   sylvieg: the function in line lib/tikilib.php on line 1463
   luciash: yes, i am asking if debug_print_backtrace()
   <br> is function
   sylvieg: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.debug-print-backtrace.php
   <br> puit the call on the first line of userslib.php
   luciash: ok, thx
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   Kimberlee: hello all.
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: doesn't seem to be called
   <br> or yes, it is called
   sylvieg: it will a little messy
   luciash: sorry
   <br> it prints the backtrace
   <br> hello Kimberlee
   <br> sylvieg:
   sylvieg: so check if in the first call to the include global $userlib is there
   luciash: http://paste-it.net/public/ca377ec/
   <br> when i have the debug in lib/userslib.php
   sylvieg: (changi runs his source formatter and all my job to put global and include on the same line to do an easy check was lost - I gave up)
   rmcc316: If Im creating a site for a radio station is there a need to use articles AND wiki pages? they seem a bit redundant??
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: huh ?
   <br> <u>rmcc316</u>: if you want nice rss, yes
   <br> <u>rmcc316</u>: wiki can do only diff rss so far
   rmcc316: <u>luciash</u>: So articles appear cleaner?
   luciash: yes
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: changi runs source fomatter ?
   rmcc316: I see.. thanks luciash
   sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: try in tiki-setup_base to change require_once ('lib/userslib.php'); to global$userlib; require_once ('lib/userslib.php');
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: upgrade from 4 to trunk fails due to 20100118_image_plugins_kill_tiki
   luciash: <u>rmcc316</u>: well, if you don't need keep history of changes for something or do branstorming wiki pages, you can switch wiki off
   chealer: wait, it doesn't
   luciash: <u>chealer</u>: seems so :(
   <br> oh
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: will try
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: that just gives some huge warnings
   rmcc316: <u>luciash</u>: not for this site.  It will strictly be an intro page, a listing of upcoming shows and guests, a chat room, links for advertisers, a embedde media player to listen to the show and thats about it
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: should I keep the wiki component installed just for the home page and build off of it?
   luciash: yes, you can include articles wikiplugin in it
   <br> to display your articles
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: seems it helped to run the upgrade
   rmcc316: I think that is what makes the most sense in my brain right now. Keep the intiial welcome page as a wiki page but that will be the only wiki page.
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: there are still some warnings but the upgrade ran succesfully 20 sql queries
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i have on line 138 of tiki-setup_base.php now : require_once ('lib/userslib.php'); global $userlib;
   sylvieg: yes good commit - telling needed for installer
   chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: the installer whines about a failed query from 20091118_sefurl_tiki.sql, the second one, for file galleries
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: when upgrading from 4, since 4 already has that
   sylvieg: no iea why the first one is ok and not the 2 one
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   rmcc316: can i embed modules in articles just as i do wiki pages?
   chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: the first isn't a duplicate - it doesn't take a trackerId parameter, unlike the existing one
   luciash: <u>rmcc316</u>: yes
   rmcc316: nice
   luciash: almost all textareas in tiki can use wiki syntax and wikiplugins
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: thanks for your help, i will commit that
   sylvieg: I need to have the forum description parsed - am I obliged to do a setting (because some people will have use the missing |escape..)
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   chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: the description is already escaped - at least in trunk
   luciash: is there some trick how to avoid "open_basedir restriction in effect" ?
   sylvieg: thx chealer
   luciash: these E_WARNINGs annoy me in php error reporting
   sylvieg: so I will parse and basta
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: I do not think so
   <br> it is a security styuff
   luciash: i wonder tiki still seems to work on that site despite these warnings
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   sylvieg: snif luciash
   <br> why did you take away randomGalleryId in tiki-download_file.php
   <br> it is a nice new feature - random img form fgal
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   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: oh, did i ? i didn't know about it... must be by accident
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i am sorry, i will rollback
   sylvieg: not a roolback - because your notices fixes are ok
   <br> {img randomGalleryId=1} is nice
   luciash: it must happen that my svn export wasn't in sync and i copied to trunk, sorry
   <br> yes, sure
   sylvieg: copy must be forbidden in svn..
   luciash: heh
   <br> but how do i fix on test site and then put in svn ?
   <br> but sure it was my fault i didn't do sync first
   sylvieg: are you test site on svn?
   luciash: nope, it is ftp only
   sylvieg: I hjave all me test stitre on svn
   <br> a test site per ... ideas...
   luciash: usually i have too, this one was exception :-p
   sylvieg: ok
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   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: haven't u commited the mod to allow no links in trackerlist ?
   sylvieg: showlinks=n
   <br> ?
   luciash: yes, this one... got back broken links after the upgrade :-p
   <br> i fixed it on the site but forgot to backup :-p
   <br> will have to re-do :)
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   luciash: cool, we have Disable javascript preference in Tiki 5 !
   sylvieg: :-)I was so upset of javascript bug - it is VERY convenient
   <br> I am using it all the time now
   luciash: haha :)
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   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: ah, you rolled it back in 24527
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: you say there's now new option
   sylvieg: ah yeh..
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: in tracker fields admin ?
   sylvieg: it is at the filed definitiopn
   <br> there are 2 types of links in tracker
   <br> links to item
   <br> and links to other stuf
   luciash: this one was page selector
   sylvieg: links to item are controlled with showlinks
   luciash: ok
   sylvieg: so showlink is only for link to item
   <br> and .. I think - tell me if not I added all needed in setting to controlled the other liks
   luciash: but what if i wanted to keep it in tracker view but change it in trackerlist plugin view only ?
   sylvieg: i suppose it need an additional setiing
   luciash: new param for trackerlist plugin only ?
   sylvieg: did I sent you a mail when I committed
   luciash: i don't think so