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ibrrorg: quick ? what does it mean to save and backlist items (comes up in trackers) as opposed to simply save thanx
luciash: <u>ibrrorg</u>: hi
ibrrorg: howdy
luciash: <u>ibrrorg</u>: it means you save the item and it brings you back to the list of all items
ibrrorg: my son will be born in the next 24-48hrs
luciash: w00t ! congrats already ! :)
ibrrorg: thanx! so, what's the deal on the save and save backlist
<br> is it some kinda coders importance thing? re: ?@19:19
luciash: nope, just preference, someone wants to stay on the item and view how it looks after saving and someone just wants to go back to the list of all items to have an overview and edit/add another one quickly
<br> when you try that, doesn't it behave like that ?
ibrrorg: ah, back-to-list eh?
<br> never tried it---not as brave as ya'll! :)
<br> excitement in my life is espresso vs. coffee! ha ha
luciash: :D
ibrrorg: trying to get some interest over on SMF (my forum) for a Bridge between Tiki and SMF; they have one for MW. if it happens is there a place i should post the code?
luciash: <u>ibrrorg</u>: did your mate bring some exciting news from MTL TikiFest ?
ibrrorg: yeah and no. we found out to always wait for vX.1,2,etc so we will wait for 5.x and the maps i sent a mail to marc laporte but don't know if he got it or not. can't use mapserver
<br> so i will start to fund some massive coding for the google platforms
luciash: sure, you can start a wiki page at dev site about it
<br> i think it is good idea to go with the google maps
<br> the old mapserver seemed to me too outdated
ibrrorg: i like it much better, but just didn't know where/how to start---totally agree!
<br> i just walk a REAL fine line with the google API as u know
luciash: then we can give commit access to your coder or you can attach the code somewhere there
ibrrorg: it's more of an open source deal; didn't hire them ill dig the link in a sec
luciash: np, i am on something anyway to lurk into it more than here :)
ibrrorg: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=369609.0
<br> have a good one and if u ever get bored and wanna talk google earth there's a pot 'o gold at the end of the code line! ha ha :)
luciash: :)
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: do you know if the "Only one item per user or IP" is not yet supported in Profiles Tracker Handler ?
<br> as noted here → http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=User_Trackers
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jcyrisse: well, i have now done a complete reinstall of TW 4.2 to try to correct my issues with pages not acting correctly and menus not acting correctly
<br> and, reinstalling themes...site is http://www.cytopathnet.org
<br> the milkyway theme menu not working properly
<br> i could sure use some suggestions how else to troubleshoot this
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nkoth: jcyrisse, what exactle is not working?
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jcyrisse: well, editing pages seems a bit buggie...with not being able to move between tabs...or no editor pop up
<br> in milky way, the menus dont show up...no drop down as in the strasa theme
<br> and some rss feeds just stopped working
nkoth: what menus?
jcyrisse: on both
<br> top menus
nkoth: oh i see, strasa is ok
jcyrisse: not the left hand
nkoth: hmm, sorry I 'm not really into milkyway
<br> it looks better on your sit ethough
jcyrisse: yes...at least for that...it is less buggie
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chibaguy: polom
nkoth: polom chibaguy, you know anything about milkyway in 4.2? jcyrisse has some issues...
jcyrisse: is ok
<br> yes :)
<br> i think so too
chibaguy: I think it's a javascript problem. Probably javascript minify (which is more or less broken) is turned on.
jcyrisse: javascript minify? ok...that in admin area?
chibaguy: <u>jcyrisse</u>: you could go to the "performance" icon on the main admin page, and turn off "minify javascript" if it's turned on.
jcyrisse: ok...brb
chibaguy: yep, it's the hourglass icon.
<br> tiki-admin.php?page=performance
<br> hi nkoth
jcyrisse: so turn off both of those options?
chibaguy: yes
jcyrisse: bingo!
chibaguy: actually "Minify javascript" was causing the problem. "minify CSS" may be safe to leave on, but not "Minify CSS into a single file".
jcyrisse: it seemed like it was whenever it was a javascript item
<br> ok...now will test some other things...thanks a ton!!
chibaguy: Of course you can experiment now that you know what to turn on and off.
<br> sure, np.
jcyrisse: yup...ty
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jcyrisse: ok...now another question
<br> lol
<br> i notice also that my last visits etc since i upgraded to v 4.1 dont ever change when i log out
chibaguy: I recall seeing something about that, but don't remember the details.
jcyrisse: and a couple of my RSS feeds that were plugins on front page are gone...just stopped working
chibaguy: Anyway, you should upgrade to 4.2 for security and bug-fix reasons. Maybe the problem has been solved.
jcyrisse: i did upgrade to 4.2
<br> just saying since 4.1 hasnt been working right
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chibaguy: oh, I see.
<br> well, 5.0 will be out pretty soon.... ;-)
jcyrisse: oh...goodie.... :)
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chibaguy: but probably it'd be good to wait until 5.1, for your site.
<br> let the bugs get shaken out a bit.
jcyrisse: okies
matoc: hello, I need help with anoymous users not being able to see the tiki-view_forum_thread.php; permissions are the same as an loder 3.5 install but don't work with 4.2.
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matoc: Specifically, this messes up the last forum post module.
nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: try setting the perms again (not sure exaclty what might be the issue but perms did change between 3.x and 4.x
matoc: I've got tiki_p_forum_read set for the Anonymous group, should they have anything else. Also, I should say that I've given registered uses every forum permission there is including admin, and they can't see it either. The only user where it works is with the admin.
<br> I've tripple checked all the perms againsts my working 3.5 install, so I don't think that it.
<br> I'll reset everything here regardless.
nkoth: what do you mean "messes up the last forum post module?"
<br> is tiki-view_forum_thread.php working?
matoc: the module shows up ok, but none of the forum posts show up.
nkoth: is the forum categorized
matoc: ttiki-view_forum_thread.php only works when I'm logged in as admin.
<br> I'm not sure about the catagory option, I don't see it anywhere. I've just created two basic forums. Annonymous users can list the forums and read post, but tiki-view_forum_thread.php gives me an error saying I need to be logged in.
nkoth: hmm, it works on my 4.1
<br> oh, you have set specific forum perms?
matoc: I don't think so.... let me check.
<br> nope, just the global ones.
nkoth: well, i can't reproduce the problem...
<br> is it just that thread or all threads?
matoc: ok, I've been going down the wrong path. tiki-view_forum_thread.php works. My problem is just with the last furom post module. I've spent to much time on this and I'm making silly mistakes.
<br> so to restate the problem: nothing shows up in the last forum post module unless I'm the admin user.
nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: that's true let me check
matoc: I think it has to do with the link to the actual forum post from the module. Loged in as the admin user, copied the link from the module, log out and past it in the browser I get "must be logged in" error. But as anonymous I can view the post, it has a different link.
<br> this is what led me to think that tiki-view_forum_thread.php wasn't workin.
nkoth: the forumId is missing from the url,
<br> it says forumId= instead of forumId=1
matoc: for me as admin out of the module I get: http://10.10.10.41/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=1
<br> going the long way I get: http://10.10.10.41/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=1&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=1
nkoth: yeah, whatever there is a bug here
matoc: as the admin user, they both go to the same place.
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nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: well, are you able to file a bug so that someone can do a proper fix? I have a quick fix but it basically renders the permissions checking useless for the listing of items in this module
<br> then again
matoc: I can file the bug report. a quick fix would be nice to have though.
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jcyrisse: if i want to insert some javascript in order to add a shared feed from my google reader, how do i do that? i tried the javascript plugin, and inserting the code i get from google, but nothing displays?
nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: can you start filing the bug?
<br> I am trying to make a svn diff of the quick fix
matoc: yup. It seems I have to register first!
nkoth: ddo you also get the link as ": title"?
<br> with a preceding :
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matoc: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=3076
<br> <u>nkoth</u>: yes. I though that was odd too.
nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: thanks, hang on
Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3076 - - last forum post module does not display posts - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3076
jcyrisse: I figured it out....need to use HTML plugin instead :)
nkoth: <u>matoc</u>: check the bug (I updated it)
matoc: thats awsome. thanks for your help!
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jcyrisse: nn all
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higamorph: Hello
<br> I've been making a site as a demo and the people i've made it for green lighted it for production on a different server. How can I move the whole tiki from one server to another? I've searched and it gave me some instructions but I'm a very novice sql user and I'm not sure where to type int he command at.
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Daniel_: hi all. Is there a TW native, easy way to make a module content scroll? I'm making a RSS feeds block, but to keep size of module down without cutting down on the number of feeds i'd like it to auto-scroll...possible?
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coaboa: Hello @all
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coaboa: Tried to restrict categorization of an object/page to the creator but can't find a only_creator_can_categorize permission... Also I enabled a group for each user I do not manage to hook this group to thecreatet page. Any hints
Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Explosion of bandwidth traffic consumption after upgrade to Tiki 3.3 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36631
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Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3077 - - Disallow tiki-tell_a_friend.php in robots.txt - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3077
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ricks99: hi all :-)
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ricks99: <u>Q</u>: in 3.5, is there a way to mass-change tracker status? How can i change multiple trackers from OPEN to CLOSED in a single action?
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jonnyb: polom-poloms
ricks99: hi jonnyb
jonnyb: hi ricks99
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yohomer: I surely have as much joy as frustration with tiki; the upgrade from 2.4 to 3.5 was quick, easy, seamless .... required only theme adjustments
<br> Show/Hide side menus no longer "sticks" for me though, in older version of ffox.
<br> also true in v4 installation
sylvieg: the popup of a calendar event has just a class opaque .. that is also used in fgal - can I add a class
<br> I need to be larger than the hard coded 200px
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26061 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-calendar_box.tpl: [MOD]cal: add a class for the box to be able to overwrite the hard coded 200px
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jonnyb: hi yohomer - yes, i fixed that for 5.x yesterday... it's been broken for ages - maybe you can get someone to backport it to 4... (and 3?)
<br> bbl
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IonLeBlanc: lo all
<br> is there any documentation on the developer wiki concerning the topic sql injection and a guideline what to do when putting the results from a form into a table?
<br> <u>Background</u>: I am currently updateing / rewriting a feature for tikiwiki to manage a clubs members/accounting
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mlaporte: polom
sylvieg: <u>IonLeBlanc</u>: I dom not think we have a page - you need to cast or filter the param
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IonLeBlanc: thx, sylvieg, that answers my question
<br> It might be useful to create a special object/class for that so it can be used on other occasions as well
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sylvieg: <u>IonLeBlanc</u>: perhaps the best is to send a message on the devel list
IonLeBlanc: hehe, I am already working on a concept for that
<br> though I don't know if I manage to finish it today
<br> depends on what my apprentice needs from me
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r26062 10/third_party/phpcas/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [UPDATE] Updating PHPCas to 1.1.0RC7
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Weisser: Hi, i am looking for a wiki for our project group. We have a few dozens of people, and we are playing an online game. What we need, is a dynamicly built internet archve of information that we gather in the game.
<br> Now, both mediawiki and dokuwiki failed to suffice, because neither fo them has a sophisticated enough permissions system.
<br> Is tikiwiki better in that aspect?
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Caarrie: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r26063 10/branches/5.x/ (templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl tiki-upload_file.php): [FIX] Better fix than r26059 (i.e. use jq tag but use tiki_full.tpl instead of tiki-print.tpl). It is more consistent with the other filegal manager screens anyway
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Weisser: can i assign object to several categories?
ricks99: @Weisser: y. objects can belong to multiple categories. See docs for details http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Category
Weisser: thank you guys, i think i will give tikiwiki a try
<br> it seems the correcxt wiki software for our group
ricks99: <shameless plug> be sure to check out the beginner's guide: http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shameless plug>
Weisser: :D
Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Keep up with Tiki code changes! - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article87-Keep-up-with-Tiki-code-changes
<br> New Forum Posts: Keep up with Tiki code changes! - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=36641
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mlaporte: polom
jonnyb: polom2
ricks99: polom3
-: changi polom game :)
ricks99: is there a way to add "attachments" to a calendar item event?
mlaporte: no
ricks99: ;(
<br> guess i could upload to file gallery and link {FILE}
<br> actually, that wold work fine
mlaporte: <u>changi</u>: If you have time, it would be good to move themes.tikiwiki.org to branches/5.x on the new server
Weisser: hey
mlaporte: <u>changi</u>: it is currently not updated via SVN (not good)
Weisser: if tikiwiki works for us
<br> i will come on this channel and say i love you
<br> every week
mlaporte: hahahahahahah
Weisser: for as long as i am using it
<br> guys :D
<br> and girls
mlaporte: we love you too!
Weisser: if there are any
<br> yay ^^
ricks99: share the love
mlaporte: <u>Weisser</u>: what type of project?
Weisser: a team gathering sensitive data as a part of onlite communit based game
<br> we are ministyr of foreign affairs, and we need a sophisticated permissions system
IonLeBlanc: hehe, that reminds me of old planetarion time
Weisser: lol
<br> was that some game like that? :>
IonLeBlanc: one big part of my alliances success was their combination of being organized and collecting intel
mlaporte: <u>changi</u>: according to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki5, we should move themes to 5.x already. But since it's not on SVN, it's not trivial. Since we need to move to community server sooner or later, we may as well do all at once.
Weisser: IonLeBlanc, yeah well if we manage to collect infromation on most important players, poliical parties, irc channel and informal groups
<br> then we will pretty much will become the virtual version of jew masonry
<br> :D
mlaporte: changi & mose: this would be great also to use mods to upgrade themes. Gary moved some themes to core but some, for licensing reasons, will always stay in mods. We need an easy way to update. mods is the answer :-)
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changi: <u>mlaporte</u>: i need help to move themes.tikiwiki.org on the new server
mlaporte: ok, what is needed?
changi: <u>mlaporte</u>: look themes1.tikiwiki.org you will see my problem
mlaporte: header already sent
changi: yes
mlaporte: ok, can you do a switch to branches/5.x ?
changi: i'll do that in 3 hours
Caarrie|away: http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=38 might be helpful
changi: because i need to get data back from the master server
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-: changi please don't make any change on themes this evening
<br> changi themes1 under switching
<br> changi themes1 is on tiki5 and my problem disapear
changi: cool
<br> i'll get data back from the old server this evening
<br> and then switch the dns
<br> so please don't touch themes.tikiwiki.org
<br> thx
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mlaporte: ok!
Kerin: I need to switch back from the wysiwyg editor to wiki editor because of some rather serious issues with the wysiwyg not really working properly which i have no idea how i missed for so long
mlaporte: you can also lock old site if you want
Kerin: is there a way to mass-convert all existing pages from HTML to wikisyntax?
mlaporte: <u>Kerin</u>: It's very very difficult to do
Kerin: <u>mlaporte</u>: if there's no tool i'll just export the table and find/replace on it
mlaporte: how many pages do you have?
Kerin: let's guesstimate 40 or so
-: mlaporte is glad to have tagged WYSIWYG as experimental
Kerin: yeah it's my fault for trying it
-: mlaporte suggests to copy-paste and cleanup manually
Kerin: mlaporte, i exported the table as a sql statement
mlaporte: Tiki5 will have CK Editor3 so perhaps it will be better
<br> ok, you are ok then
Kerin: now i'm using find and replace to swap <br /> with n, <b> and </b> as __, etc
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26064 10/branches/proposals/3.x/tiki-tc.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [bp/r24576] [FIX] If theme control finds more than one theme to apply set by an object's categories then ignore them all.
<br> tikiwiki: [bp/r24593] [FIX] Theme control: don't count categories with no theme (properly)
Kerin: no big deal :)
Caarrie: better keep a backup in case something goes wrong
Kerin: already backed the DB up
<br> i'm not an idiot, i just play one on IRC.
<br> ;]
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mlaporte: hehe
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sylvieg: do we have a way to test if cookie is enabled - the $smarty.cookies.PHPSESSID does not work as it can be the page the cookie is set
jonnyb: doesn't the javascript detect use a cookie?
sylvieg: yes I suppose we have js thing to check that..
<br> a grep on cookie on tw is very productive :-(
jonnyb: maybe worth looking in jquery.cookie.js too
sylvieg: ths jonnyb I will have a look
<br> in fact the problem is more complex - as the user can individually allow a cookie - I have to check the vote check with 2 steps...
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26065 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/prefilter.tr.php: [bp/ r 26033][FIX]release: blind commit
mlaporte: tks sylvieg
Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Themes are not applied correctly - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=36645
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Weisser: how large is tikiwiki in mb's ?
<br> and what can i remove to make it smaller
<br> i have a free hosting and uploading script takes hours
mlaporte: look in lang/
ricks99: can also remove changelog.txt
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26067 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_poll.php templates/tiki-poll.tpl): [MOD]polls: option to show title
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coaboa: Tried to restrict categorization of an object/page to the creator but can't find a only_creator_can_categorize permission... Also I enabled a group for each user I do not manage to hook this group to the createt page. Any hints?
<br> Hello asked that befor but did not solve it.
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ibrrorg: @luciash are you around?
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coaboa: Hello. PluginSORT: how can I [tiki-contact.php|Contact us] let it display @ correct position?
<br> SORT seems to sort the "["...
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26068 10/branches/5.x/tiki-index_p.php: [FIX] typo
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coaboa: can i have the PluginSort followthe hirarchy of an ordered list (eg. sort headings and then under each heading sort the *-bullets?
yohomer: <u>jonnyb</u>: thanks for the sticky hide side fix :)
jonnyb: it was fiddly - probably why everyone was avoiding it for so long ;)
-: changi themes1.tikiwiki.org is online in Tiki5
<br> changi please test
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coaboa: does one know if the browserside cooky is the only on or does tiki store client info?
<br> does one know if the browserside cooky is the only saved info or does tiki store additional client info somewhere? (beside IP when editing)
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26069 10/branches/5.x/installer/tiki-installer.php: [MOD] remove ?> to avoid -- header already sent -- and Zend Recommendation
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26070 10/trunk/ (26 files in 9 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 26035 to 26069
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yohomer: <u>jonnyb</u>: it was one of the strong featurs which swayed me in favor of tiki during early v2
<br> I like parking some rarely used, or only once per session, modules "over there" hidden
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r26071 10/branches/5.x/lang/ (87 files in 78 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [MOD] languages: some cleanup in translation files. Remove some too much SUMO
<br> tikiwiki: specific strings. Remove the language files with absolutely no translated
<br> tikiwiki: strings. Remove the empty folders in /lang. Affect the correct svn properties to
<br> tikiwiki: the php files. Add some missing index.php files. Remove some strange and
<br> tikiwiki: unmaintained files (untranslated.php, Changelog).
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socket_77: hello...
<br> I'm having some trouble with the Full Screen Edit button on the wiki editor toolbar
<br> Using Internet Explorer 8, and 7, actually
<br> It just doesn't work, does nothing.
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socket_77: I've also noticed that when using the Attach Picture icon on the editor tool bar, the drop down selection boxes for some of the fields do not display anything
<br> They drop down, but are empty
<br> I'm using Tiki 4.1
<br> Same thing works fine in Chrome and Firefox
<br> Anyone else seen this?
jonnyb: hi socket_77 - yes, that sounds feasible - can you update to 4.2? (although i don't recall any fixes for IE, it might be better)
socket_77: Oh, I didn't realize 4.2 was out
<br> I will check it out, thanks
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socket_77: Hmm, can't seem to find any release notes for the 4.2 changes
<br> nevermind
<br> found them
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