MonsterJar: hmmmm
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Weisser: is it possible to have different color of links for pages which dont exist yet?
marclaporte: Weisser : no
Weisser: :/
no plugin or something?
marclaporte: each links a different color?
Weisser: you know this is extremely useful feature
no
links to nonexistant pages in different colours
marclaporte: it's a question mark now
Weisser: colour*
hmmm i dont see any question mark :o
marclaporte: I see what you mean, it's quite common, so you know if you should click or not
Weisser: yep
in my wiki those links are actually dominating
marclaporte: In Tiki, they all end up with question marks, (which I concede is not cool)
especially when you are copy-pasting...
-: marclaporte prefers Weisser's idea
Weisser: yep :/
also, in my tiki i dont see any question marks :/
marclaporte: even if we have question mark, it should be by css so it doesn't appear in copy-paste
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marclaporte: Weisser : can you write up a feature request?
Weisser: not today
it's veeery late :P
marclaporte: somewhere in the World, it's early :-)
Weisser: here, it's 5 am
marclaporte: ok, you win
Weisser: :>
it's late
or early
depending on perception
btw
about permissions, i had this idea, and i doubt it's possible already
you see i have an array of groups and categories, that all work the same way
it's like... group: Embassy to Greece
and category: Greece
and i would like to be able to set a general rule
fe. make a template group Embassy ( key )
adn Category classfied ( key )
set up rules between the category and group, an then fe. assign people to Embassy ( Hungary ) etc.
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efxRencor: Hey anyone active in here?
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marclaporte: polom
ping chealer
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chealer: hi marclaporte
marclaporte: how are you?
chealer: marclaporte: I'm not too bad but my hip pain just restarted :-(
marclaporte: So young to be in pain....
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chealer: I have enough work to do but I'm not going at a satisfying pace
marclaporte: hehe
chealer: I may go to Florida on May 18th for 1 or 2 weeks
marclaporte: oh cool!
tks for calendar popup fix
chealer: marclaporte: yeah, I'm happy you asked
there are still 2-3 less important issues with them
marclaporte: ah?
It seemed like you fixed several...
chealer: first the calendar name looks striked if it has several words and displays on several lines. I kind of found the reason and asked Nyloth about it.
then sometimes if you hover an element too early, during page load, the popup is replaced by a browser tooltip (as for the title attribute). I may ask Jonny about it but it's more rare
and finally, I'm trying to solve or make progress on the Firefox 3.6 flickering issue these Smarty popups expose. it's a strange bug.
marclaporte: how are you? did you get some rest?
marclaporte: I am feeling great. Yes, 2 days of rest!
My IRC client crashed too so I was offline a bit :-)
chealer: hehe
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marclaporte: LOL
-: marclaporte is very happy with Tiki5 progress
marclaporte: new features, new themes, new branding
chealer: the new theme looks good
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Sp4rKy: hi, I can't find why my anonymous visitors can't see images on the wiki ?
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marclaporte: images in image gallery, file gallery or attached to wiki pages?
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Ma: How buggy would you say the beta to be?
marclaporte: quality is good
dev.tikiwiki.org, doc.tikiwiki.org, etc 4-5 sites are running already
except for new theme, the rest is ready to release as 5.0
Ma: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Search+Bugs
marclaporte: If I uncheck any on version and check 5.x and Dogfood... then filter
I get sql error!
marclaporte: congrats!
Do you know how to fix? :-)
Ma: marclaporte: nope :)
marclaporte: Over all the *.tikiwiki.org, we are using hundreds of features, so of course there are bugs
there are bugs in 4.2 as well
Ma: marclaporte: I see. But you would recommend to use 5 beta now instead of 4.2?
marclaporte: Data on *.tikiwiki.org is quite complex too, so we hit edge cases that most people don't
Depends
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marclaporte: 1- New site or upgrade?
2- How many features used? (which type of project)
3- What is your timeline
Ma: marclaporte: new site, but import from tiki 3
marclaporte: not that much, the basic things
marclaporte: you are forking data?
Ma: forking data?
marclaporte: well, it's new or an upgrade? Can you have it both ways?
Ma: it is a new
But I will import data from an old tikiwiki
marclaporte: What features make you want to upgrade?
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marclaporte: 4.2 is the safe bet
Ma: marclaporte: since it is a new installation so
marclaporte: You can upgrade to 5.1 when it comes out
Ma: Okok
It would be easy from 4.2?
marclaporte: yes
Ma: Alright
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coaboa: Hello @ all
luciash: polom
hi coaboa
coaboa: In 5. is it more convinient to choose a nick name when using email as login as we now have to support each user to change "real name" which is the display name to his desired nick?
we added a user tracker but i failed (and didn't like the idea to change something at db scheme) to add the real name while gathering regisration data
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PID_: Hi anyone around ?
trying to install tiki on a godaddy account
ricks99: hi PID_
PID_: Its all installed but I can't get passed the login screen
coaboa: hi PID_
PID_: hey all
ricks99: what tiki version?
PID_: 4.2
I have manually set the folder permissions
ricks99: did u encounter any sql errors during the install
PID_: nope
ricks99: ok. what is the error you are receiving when u try to login as the admin
PID_: but I did get php errors in the installer
so I did a manual install
ricks99: what errors?
PID_: no error
just returns back to the tiki-index.php with no login
something about not finding a D:/TEMP folder
So I added the sql manually
I have installed tiki several times on different hosts with no issues
but godaddy making my pull hair out!
ricks99: r u saying that when u click the LOGIN button, the home page simply re-displays?
PID_: yeah
ricks99: did u install via fantastico or did u ftp to host?
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PID_: via filemanager on godaddy then extract
then manually set chmods
-: ricks99 recalls other folks having problems with godaddy too....
PID_: yeah it sucks :P
couldn't recommend it to anyone
ricks99: this is a new (empty) site, right?
PID_: can't find anything on web about a successful install of tiki
yeah
(successful on godaddy)
ricks99: can u go back to tiki-install.php and go directly to the install step?
PID_: hmm gives me a 404
ricks99: what is the xact php error that the installer is giving?
PID_: my bad typo
Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(D:TEMPPHP/sess_j60tkbe4m8fbapvl4km8kuk0a4, O_RDWR) failed: No such file or directory (2)
then keeps asking to validate database name and pass after every page
ricks99: ok. in ur php.ini confirm that the locationi in which storing session data is valid
coaboa: the forwared / after PHP looks weired?
ricks99: look for your session.save_path
confirm that the location is valid and cmod to make it writable by titki
may need to fix. seems that (by default) tiki is looking for d:temp.... which is incorrect
PID_: D: is tiki's root ?
ricks99: no, ur installing on a hosted server, right?
Caarrie: most likely not, and most likely not read/writeable by anyone but godaddy
PID_: yeah its looking for D:TempPHP
yeah thats what I figured :/
Caarrie: tikiwiki usually installs better on a linux server then windows
ricks99: it *should* be something like ../var/www/yourdomain/temp/...
PID_: it linux
Caarrie: D:/ is not linux
sounds like a windows server imo
PID_: yeah, it was a windows server
just realised I didn't swap the php5.ini after I had it changed over
ricks99: d'oh
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coaboa: ;-)
PID_: I assume most of it is the same?
I downloaded and edited the ini I have
ricks99: y. tiki4 requiers php5 + pdo extension
see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements for details
PID_: yeah I got the ini in the 1st place to enable pdo
to find you cant do that on godaddy windows accounts from user side :P
so switched it to linux and started again
ricks99: requirements doc has a number of other recommended php.ini settings, too
PID_: (it not my account)
yeah I added them in
I assume its the pathing that only needs to change
ricks99: k, try re-running the installer
PID_: just not sure what to change windows pathing too
ricks99: if ur not sure of your hosted TMP location, just use session.save_path = temp
this will use the TEMP directory in the TIKI root
PID_: ok
ricks99: (prob not the most secure, but should work)
PID_: its just for a few people to bugtrack, so not too bothered
just got to find where to restart the apps on their horrid control panels
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PID_: no errors in installer now
ricks99: :-)
PID_: working !!!
Love your work :)
Thanks alot guys, I just spent hours screwing around :P
and there was no was I was settling for any of the wiki's godaddy have as autoinstalls :P
ricks99: glad it worked out for you. welcome aboard
PID_: Now for the fun bits :)
thanks again, cya
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coaboa: Hi. Just enabled Live support. No "Umlaute" ;-) and related to an earlier todays post the Nickname isn't displayed instead the email is disclosed! (Version 4.1)
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coaboa: is the converstion of the live support system stored permanently? hopefully not.
How do you guyys fell about 5.0. We want to go online for a group of ~40 testuser at April 21.? Because of rating I consider to start with 5.0. What do you think?
*guys feel
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luciash: coaboa: iirc you have to add user preference type field and use realName for it, then you can have it displayed at registration time as required field
coaboa: live support is pretty old unmaintained feature, no idea if anybody touched it for 5
coaboa: but this (realName) wasn't available in 4.1! Additional (at least) our users got confused with "realname" as nick as the want to enter a real name that is "not" displayed everywhere
livesupport isn't an issue just a information.
luciash: coaboa: iirc i tested it successfully in 3.x already, must be in 4.1 too
realName
is the name of the input on tiki-user_preferences.php
since ages
if you review the page source
you should see it there
coaboa: Yes. so we need a Nick and a realname while using email as login.
luciash: you can name it whatever you like
if you need additional field for "Nick", then just add it to the tracker as normal text field
coaboa: but is this nick displayed in the eg. wiki page footer as author info?
luciash: but i think nobody would cry if you give label "nick" to the realName user preference field
nope
and use something else for the "Real Name"
coaboa: ah thats an good idea...
*a
luciash: only confusion would happen if you allow your users to go to tiki-user_preferences.php
coaboa: thats the case!
and my dilemma
luciash: then you either have to rename it in your custom language.php
or put a custom tiki-user_preferences.tpl in templates/styles/your_theme/
coaboa: or you guys think of changing it ;-)
luciash: where you can change it
we won't change it as it would break the preserve environment rule ;)
or respect environment :-p
people use it for real name mostly
coaboa: but not when usin eamil as login. which maybe become more and more important
anyway try to do it as you proposed thx
luciash: then make a wish to add a "Nick" input in the default tiki-user_preferences
for some next version
when email as username enabled
coaboa: oki
its just that i'm no coder and customizing to many templates or db tables may become a hazle to me if future tiki upgrading is requird
luciash: coaboa: sure, but for this workaround you would need only to change the string label next of the real name field there
to display "Nick" instead
maybe using lang/yourlang/custom.php is even easier solution
you just put "Real Name" => "Nick" there
in the array
coaboa: true.. stopp sweating ;-)
luciash: array of translations i mean
not sweating yet, np :)
coaboa: mean I stop tranpirating
my main concern was thar anything with login, userdata and so on has to be in a way that i do not have to touch it, as it would be a major problem to inform the kind of users we have that they need to reregister.
btw as this is an english page does the custom.php work there too?
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RavenC: morning all
luciash: coaboa: yes
RavenC: hi
coaboa: thx a lot for your support.
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mlpvolt: Hi Martin how are you
MartinCleaver: Hi Mike
busy as always, but the boy's good and the condo is just great
not that the condo is better!
I have to run - meeting downtown in 60 ins
mins, even
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mlpvolt: re: profiles - tossing out some profiles questions for anyone, like, the category handler will not create objects that don't exist, right?
luciash: right
mlpvolt: profiles question 2: it does or does not matter about the logical order of YAML in a profile, (don't try to categorize a wiki page before creating it)
luciash: does not matter
imho
mlpvolt: thanks luci
luciash: :)
mlpvolt: do categories have permissions with respect to global permissions (they used to) or now is it that they only have permissions with repsect to groups.
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coaboa: Hi chibaguy
chibaguy: hi coaboa
coaboa: tabs (and switch to no-tabs) seems not to work in clean 5.0 beta 1 install. link url indicates conten#x but clicking does nothing. Tested with Chrome and Firefox and IE8.
chibaguy: coaboa, does javascript work otherwise? such as to open and close modules?
tabs not working usually means a problem with javascript, in my experience.
coaboa: on my side?
chibaguy: no, in the tiki installation.
coaboa: ok. thought I messed it ;-)
chibaguy: You could check if javascript minify is turned on or off, on the Admin Performance page.
For a while minify javascript wasn't working, although lately I think it is ok.
coaboa: it was set. and tabs are fine now thx. maybe you guys should consider to set it off by default.
chibaguy: Yeah, I thought it was. To be safe, it should be.
coaboa: the fixed width switch is cool. can I use old themes (milkyway eg.) with 5.0. what do I have to change?
chibaguy: I don't remember exactly (and am not organized enought to have a nice list).
Just a minute please....
coaboa: no hurry.
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chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/dl62
coaboa: cool thx. as I use a customized version and I might want to start with 5.0 this is of great help.
chibaguy: Those are the files I've been using in my svn branch 5, and I think they're ok for Tiki 5.
coaboa: otherwise you'll find me here crying ;-)
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chibaguy: I haven't noticed any problems with those files but haven't really checked Milkyway thoroughly for a while (well, since the last nasty problems were pointed out).
coaboa: bbl
chibaguy: (I guess I should start putting Tiki 5 versions of mods.tw.o themes up.)
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Murphy: hi all
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coaboa: Hi Murphy
Murphy: i've got some questions concerning ldap and tikiwiki. may someone help me out?
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Restore previous behaviour of tiki-index_raw.php to output no head, body, css or javascript etc for AJAX access.
tikiwiki: Add parameter 'full' to request to output page with all the html structure and linked files for use in popup windows etc. (thanks luci)
nkoth: hi, anyone using a dynamic items list field in tiki 5?
is it working/broken?
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Jen: How can I access the php,ini to edit it?
Murphy: jen: that depends on your operating system ;-)
Jen: and that is Linux in my case
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Murphy: jen: try "sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini" (works for ubuntu)
ricks99: @jen: can create ur own and place in tiki root. it will override/cascade on top of any existing php.ini - if u cannot find the main php.ini
Jen: I use a webhosting company I tried to "find" for the file buy I cna't. I think it does not exits in the access given.
ricks99, is there any template to use on what needs to be in the file?
ricks99: y. see reqrmnt doc: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements
Jen: got it ricks99. thanks
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nkoth: it's ok, i got it (dynamic items list) to work, config error
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geweldigeklaas: hello all
can I ask a questoin here?
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ricks99: @geweldigeklass: what is ur question
geweldigeklaas: I want to compose a table of contents with pages in it
when I put {TOC} in my page it does add a TOC...
ricks99: {TOC} only works with structuers.
geweldigeklaas: but then when I click on a link to go to the page then I get an error
ricks99: pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/plugintoc
what type of error?
geweldigeklaas: I know, I put a structure in the TOC
well I get an error like : The requested URL /tikitest/&page_ref_id=3 was not found on this serv
ricks99: that page in which u added {TOC} is part of the sturutre, right?
what is the name of ur structure?
geweldigeklaas: it is "home"
ricks99: what is ur tiki version?
geweldigeklaas: I have the latest I guess, I just downloaded it about 5 days ago
ricks99: on the admin: wiki page, do u have the "open page as structure" enabled
geweldigeklaas: yes I did
ricks99: hm... r u using ajax or sefurl?
geweldigeklaas: how do I find out?
ricks99: admin: features
maybe someone else has an idea? i know that toc works in my 4.2 structures
geweldigeklaas: I now see something really interesting
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geweldigeklaas: In wiki config @ page listings I marked the option : "pages not in structure"
ricks99: go to admin: structures and confirm that the pages are in the structure
geweldigeklaas: hmme, makes no difference
ricks99: is this a public tiki?
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ricks99: not sure i have any other suggestions without actually seeing it
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geweldigeklaas: I looked at this setting and my setting for 'teatures' and 'structures' is marked as all five subitems in this item
features/structures it should be by the way
yesterday when I did not find this out for myself I set up a whole new configuration out-of-the-box and got the same problems. Perhaps I'm doing something I should not
ricks99: not sure, sorry. i know that my 4.2 toc structures work just fine.
geweldigeklaas: ok, thanks for your help so far
as long as I am in the structure I can move to different pages, no problem. If I click on the menu at "Wiki Home" and move throug the pages then thats where I get the problems
ricks99: and wiki home is in the structure? and it opens as a structure page?
geweldigeklaas: Wiki Home is in the structure, when I click on it I get a nice toc with all items. Only when I click on the items (links) I have errors....??
ricks99: try clearing tiki cache. thats the only thing i can think of
geweldigeklaas: how do I do that?
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ricks99: admin menu > system/cache
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geweldigeklaas: cant find it
RavenC: on my 4.2 it is Admin Tiki Cache/Sys Admin on the menu
ricks99: y.
RavenC: tiki-admin_system.php
:)
ricks99: see: http://bit.ly/ckIBuV
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geweldigeklaas: found "tiki-admin_system.php
well I really can
well I really can't find these options...
ricks99: 01see: http://bit.ly/ckIBuV
geweldigeklaas: I have seen it and executed it
It is also suggesting to : "Fix UTF-8 Errors in Tables"
I first try now and perhaps after that try to fix this
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geweldigeklaas_: hi I am back,
my whole system was hanging...;-(
well it did not solve my problems anywhay...
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geweldigeklaas_: hi all
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Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3104 - - No access to filters in this dev. ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3104
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CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26533 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]xmlzip: escape special cdata + option to load from the disk if the file is too big
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nkoth: Hi anyone notice twistees in the category selector while editing the page are now gone?
or is it just me?
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nkoth: hmm, they are there just hidden on first load
well, not really hidden, just invisible but clickable
ok i see why, css class missing - i'll figure it out
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CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r26534 10/branches/5.x/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26535 10/branches/5.x/lang/is/language.php: copy form tiki4
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26536 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki/xmllib.php: [FIX]xmlzip: use the original date of the comment to avoir problem with index + test error on flase as a page, attach.. can be empty
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CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r26537 10/branches/5.x/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [FIX] use of foreach loop using $icon as key here causes literally folder icons to appear in the top menu... weird but true
nkoth: Anyone notice that tracker rating field keep duplicating itself over tiime?
(such that we end up with many Rating field in any tracker?
sylvieg: use stars fields - it is so much better ;-)
I never notice that so must be a recent bug
nkoth: why do we have both rating and stars?
(i'm actually not familiar with stars so what't the difference?)
sylvieg: ratings was an hidden field - star is a field like the other - the only way to have multiple ratings + use in pretty..
rating is a imho very bad implementation
nkoth: ok, I will try the starts...
so the rating is just left around because of backward compatibility is it?
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CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r26538 10/branches/5.x/lib/newsletters/nllib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Prevent database error when trying to subscribe to newsletter fom wiki
tikiwiki: plugin (which does not require validation) or otherwise when the newsletter does
tikiwiki: not require validation anymore, after previously "subscribing" but not
tikiwiki: validating
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