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   chealer: hi daniam. they seem to work here
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   coaboa: good morning
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   Gergely: Morning coaboa, Back to the plugin thing. Right, the http://dev.tikiwiki.org/create+a+plugin is another good description how plugin usage should work. It just does not work for me. Could someone try adding a new plugin in TW5.0beta1?
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   chibaguy: polom
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   coaboa: hi
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   daniam: Any one knows when the servers will be up again?
   chibaguy: Hi daniam. There was a hardware failure, and the hardware was replaced but the software is still being reinstalled. Hopefully, within a few hours.
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   ohertel: Hello!
   <br> Which value do I set the error_reporting_level to in tiki preferences, to get ALL output?
   <br> I have tw.o and de.tw.o up as soon as I find out why it doesnt like pdo+adodb right now.
   <br> But with no log output ...
   <br> darn db drivers, i have NO idea whats up.
   _awaylikegnu: hey ohertel
   ohertel: hell.
   <br> hello.
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   ohertel: Ok, found the DB problem.
   <br> But we have a SERIOUS memory problem: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 71 bytes)
   <br> Even 128MB are not enough, that is ridiculous.
   marclaporte: ohertel : thanks for your time on this.
   <br> Do you know what query does this?
   ohertel: No idea. Tried to find out but couldnt. My debug stuff was all around the query functions in Bridge.php, and it got from 4,8MG before the query to maximum after it.
   <br> I am not sure if the query itself is the culprit or something else, that is looping.
   <br> But right now it works for mein Firefox, but it chokes with Safari and Chrome.
   <br> So it's more or less up again. ^^
   <br> That was quite some act. I moved all my stuff from the old machine to the new maching since 9am.
   <br> Now it's 5pm my time.
   <br> oop, forgot to redirect edu.tw.o in the dns... ^^
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   ohertel: Now I have eaccelerator back in too. Think all is done.
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   avi_: How do I link to an element of a structure from a module?
   <br> neone?
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   coaboa: is the theme jqui available for tikiwiki 4?
   chealer: polom
   coaboa: i
   <br> Hi
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   marclaporte: no
   ohertel: Ok, cronjob work well, I think we are back where we were before the hardware broke, only we dont have the millions of dying apache tasks anymore. ^^
   <br> So in the end an improvement. :P And we are on a intel i7 with 12GB ram now. :D
   marclaporte: woah
   ohertel: Will give the old server back end of next month, it borked anyway.
   <br> <u>marc</u>: but we STILL need to find the memory bug. ^^
   marclaporte: oh
   ohertel: Only because we have more memory does NOT mean that I ready the memory limit for php to 512MB per session. :P
   <br> That would kill even this server. And I tried 64MB, 128MB, 256MB, after each memory raise it still hit the limit.
   <br> So I fear there is a loop somewhere just eating all available memory.
   marclaporte: ohertel : on the left, (Last changes module), when I mouse over as anonymous, it doesn't show the user
   ohertel: Maybe I trace in deeper next days, but for today I have done enough. ^^
   marclaporte: but doc is ok
   <br> thanks for restoring service!
   ohertel: I got the memory error on doc.tw.o too... when I tried. So its not a problem on the de|.tw.o installation.
   <br> Yah, that was quite some work, and cost me some money to get in the support to change the hardware. :-/
   <br> does all the intertiki stuff work again?
   <br> They dont use the intertiki server ip, right? Only the server uses the client ips...?
   <br> on the missing usernames: no idea, I didnt change anything. database is the stuff from right before the crash, and php files are the latest 5.x ones.
   <br> So if that worked yesterday, then it must have been a recent checkin.
   marclaporte: no, it's been broken for a while
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   marclaporte: I think it's setting which is different but I don't know which one
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   ohertel: Those data fetched for this module are WAY too many.
   <br> We really need to clean up ALL our SQL statements, then we probably get a lot of memory back.
   <br> I mean, the data contain all permissions the user got, too. and we hand those all over to the tpl file. WHY?
   <br> Its for display only, no need for the several dozen permissions there.
   <br> $res['perms'] = $this-&gt;get_perm_object($res['pageName'], 'wiki page', $res, false);
   <br> we attach all the permissions all the time, even on display only pages. :-(
   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3129 - - CC mod doesn't allow transactions after upgrade to Tiki 4 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=3129
   CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r26678 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_scroll.php: SCROLL plugin: cleanup removing unused left and top parameters
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   CIA-59: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r26679 10/branches/5.x/lib/ (setup/prefs.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_perm.php):
   <br> tikiwiki: [NEW] PERM plugin
   <br> tikiwiki: imported from mods, contributed by lfagundes
   <br> tikiwiki: By default, the permission check is non-global, which is known to be fragile
   changi: @ohertel: auth on dev/doc is back
   <br> @ohertel: just a DNS lag
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   ohertel: =)
   marclaporte: a view in the future: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/BigBlueButton
   <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/BigBlueButton
   FrankP_german: <u>sorry</u>: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 99614720 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 371 bytes) in /home/two/dev/lib/init/initlib.php on line 202
   marclaporte: wow
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   ohertel: Yah, thats what I get to on tw.o and de.two. Just the same.
   <br> Works with Firefox, doesnt work with Chrome and Safari. Really strange.
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   lindon_: curious - is there more coming for payment and shopping cart?
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