lindon_ : not really
what do we need?
wasn't sure how far we wanted to take the payment method possibilities
eventually, further
ie so people could pay with credit cards without leaving the site
yeah, as long as we don't store card numbers
we could use some more advanced things of Paypal, to offer better user experience (more professional)
what are you thinking of?
for other payment possibilities, is that considered only nice to have or important to have?
I am thinking Google Checkout and AmazonPay
Nothing that requires Tiki to handle credit cards
is there any way to remove the the native tikiwiki files names like  tiki-editpage.php from appearing in url?
marclaporte: ok - thanks
bye!
Is it possible to decide if the js should be included first or last on the page?
 New Forum Posts: Tracker field date & time - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36925
hello
anyone in?
polom
chibaguy: hello!
Ma: hello
chibaguy: do you know what tiki_objects is?
Not without looking, no.
chibaguy: do you mind taking a look?
I see various items listed but am not sure what the reason is.
even at a site with no categorized objects.
chibaguy: me too
One thing seems to be site statistics.
no, actually not site statistics, apparently. There's no correlation there.
chibaguy:  ok
On second look, there is a correlation.
Seems everything at the site may be an object.
every wiki page, forum post, gallery file, etc.
that was my thoguht as well
but I don't think it is correct when counting hte itmes..
My branch 5 test site is pretty simple in terms of objects, and it seems that everything I have created or uploaded to the site is in the table.
hi all :-)
hi ricks99
hi chibaguy
chibaguy:  I see.. weird
chibaguy: since I have 1300 tracker items and 300 pages.. that is almost everything and jujst 790 posts in object-tabel
Ma: I see.
chibaguy: do you know the differences between file_galleries and galleries table?
galleries might be for image galleries.
chibaguy: I see, that would be phased out..
I just added the first tracker and a tracker item at my simple test site, and see that these got added to the tiki_objects table.
Yes, image galleries is planned to be phased out, but there's no idea how soon, as far as I know.
chibaguy: then I think I change my image galleries to file galleries then so I got everything in same gallery typ
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ok
chibaguy: yes, that is why I wonder how I just can have 790 items in objcet..
a mystery :-)
chibaguy: I think I will run some kind of script to check it out :D
chibaguy: is it possible to send tracker items with the communcation feature?
I don't know.
hello everyone
hi
chibaguy: do you think it is possible to create objects afterwards?
Ma: It probably is possible, by following the pattern of existing rows in the table, but might be difficult.
chibaguy: I cannot find any relation at all between objects and something else
permissions work without them
categories
structure
s
I just noticed the tables tiki_object_attributes, tiki_object_ratings, and tiki_object_relations. So far these are empty in my simple site.
Where can I find some info about upgrading from 4.1 to 4.2?
I wonder if permissions are assigned in terms of object ID, or if some other function uses items listed in that table.
chibaguy: my permissions works without the object
s
ok
I'm just assuming the table has some function.
chibaguy: me too, that is why I'm confused :P
chibaguy: any idea why my title and so on isn't shown in header when I'm not logged in?=
This is a bug that was recently fixed, I believe.
chibaguy: alright.. so when is next release of tiki 5? 29 april?
I don't think the schedule is firm yet.
Actually on the header, luciash was talking about that, I think, and found that it was related to custom site header content in his case, if I recall correctly. So you might check if switching that on or off has any effect.
chibaguy: that is correct.. but still a bug :P
I don't know if it's been fixed.
oki
chibaguy: is it possible to get the js included in top of the page?
You could do a test, but I think js gets loaded at the end of the page generally.
chibaguy: ok, since that is destroying the functionality of plugin maketoc
Ma: maketoc works ok in my branch 5.x installation.
chibaguy: even the showtoctoggle
chibaguy: try with showhide=y
Minify javascript has been broken at times in branch 5. Is it turned on at your site?
chibaguy: yes, but even when it is turned off it still doesn't work.. But should you really be able to include js files at bottom and then access these fucntions higher up in the code? i don't think so..
Yes, apparently they can, as it's recommended practice.
google load javascript at bottom of page
Also, js is working in branch 5.
chibaguy: but googles work in a bit different way
No, I mean do a google search of 'load javascript bottom page' (without quotes)
sorry
chibaguy: but then you need some kind of function that calls this showTocToggle when the page is loaded
since it is now it tries to run the js as fast as possible.. and the function isn't "created" and then no code is executed because of the if-case
What js functionality is missing at your site?
where do i change a toolbar icon? i added youtube, but it shows up with the default icon and text. i want to use only a youtube icon.
chibaguy: showhide on maketoc plugin
Yeah, it doesn't work for me, either. But js in general works.
chibaguy: yeah, but I need that functionality :D
If you think js placement is the problem, you can edit templates/header.tpl to add the js there, to test, I suppose.
found it. i had to add 'icon' => 'pics/icons/youtube.png' to wikiplugin_youtube.php
chibaguy: true, is there any tag that generates the js includes?
I don't really know much about javascript; it'd be better if you asked on the dev mailing list, or here again when more people are active.
chibaguy: this is just about templates :P
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26680 10/branches/5.x/templates/modules/mod-switch_theme.tpl: [FIX] Missing none option for theme option in the switch theme module
Ma: if so, it's an aspect of templates I don't know much about. ;-)
chibaguy: haha :P
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26681 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 26668
chibaguy: edi_templtaes.php is just blank after a bit loading time
edit_templates.php*
I don't know about that. I don't use Tiki's edit-templates feature.
chibaguy: in what file is the js printed? footer.tpl?
I'm not sure off hand. You'll need to check.
chibaguy: I didn't find it in footer that is why I asked :)
Look at tiki.tpl and see if it is there or what other files are included near the bottom of the file.
chibaguy: there it was thanks
ok, good.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r26682 10/branches/5.x/ (11 files in 4 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [ENH] Site header login popup for FiveAlive theme. Uses CSS menu superfish
tikiwiki: functionality unless this should be changed/improved. Effectively no change in
tikiwiki: tiki-site_header_login.tpl. Having a tiki-site_header_top.tpl that includes
tikiwiki: tiki-site_header_login_popup.tpl enables login popup in any theme. This could be
tikiwiki: a preference later.
chibaguy: changed it and now it works
chibaguy: as I thoguth :)
ok, interesting, and good job. This should be reported as a bug, probably.
chibaguy: yeah
vill sluta nu
wrong window, damn
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26683 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Basic options for BigBlueButton integration
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26684 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [MOD] Param description
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26685 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [NEW] Freetagged plugin (backported from trunk for consistency)
tikiwiki: Disabled by default.
 New Forum Posts: Tracker "Changes" log? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36926
 New Forum Posts: Installing Tikiwiki - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=36927
 New Forum Posts: installing Tikiwiki - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=36928
 New Forum Posts: BBB: Available to test - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=36929
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26686 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX] Typo (sorry)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26688 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Basic library to access bigbluebutton API
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26689 10/branches/5.x/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Correct params on update sheet, allow non-jquery.sheet view, allow rename of sheet titles in jquery.sheet
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26690 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] BigBlueButton plugin to join a meeting
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26691 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Allow to create new rooms
i want to use tikiwiki for testing bbcode formating and documenting good examples. can tiki parse bbcode?
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26692 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [MOD] French trad
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26693 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [REL] Fixing URL for release
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26694 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Display attendee list when allowed to join
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26695 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/lib/prefs/bigbluebutton.php: [FIX] Incorrect documentation
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26696 10/branches/5.x/installer/schema/20100114_tiki_actionlog_merge_tiki.sql: [FIX] 39 is enough
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26697 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_bigbluebutton.tpl: [ENH] Note when room is empty
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26698 10/branches/experimental/big-blue-button/lib/bigbluebuttonlib.php: [FIX] Crash when wrong salt entered
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3131 - - unable to downlad files in files gallery - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3131
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26699 10/branches/5.x/ (10 files in 9 dirs): [NEW] Integration with BigBlueButton.
 New Forum Posts: How to get attension for my questions? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36930
Hi All.  New to TikiWiki, and just stopping in to say hello.  My new site is up, but just getting started configuring it.
Ok not much happening right now it looks like.  So I'll stop back by later.
L8tr...
WHERE, in TW 4.2 can I find "function convertSortMode"? In Changelog.txt I find "in Line 2361: [FIX] convert-sortmode from 3.x no longer exist as a function, change to convertSortMode" but can't find source anywhere.
omstefanov: in /lib/core/lib/TikiDb/Bridge.php 
chealer: THanks. Wow! are the lib/core/lib modules somehow always available. I can't find a require_once or include_once anywhere in trackerlib.php yet this function is referred to everwhere.
chealer: I also found another function with same name in lib/core/lib/ (no further subdir) called TikiDb.php .  Which one is the "real one"?
omstefanov: they're basically always available, yes. they're not directly included
then, how to I know which it the right one? the one in lib/core/lib called TikiDb.php or Bridge.php ?
omstefanov: the one called directly is in Bridge.php. it calls the one in TikiDb.php, which is the interesting one.
Chealer: what I'm trying to do is figure out how to add a 2nd sort field, either to sort_mode parms e.g. in TRACKERLIST or to add the default sort field as a 2nd sort to ORDER BY commands in some cases.
Chealer: To explain, if you have a tracker that is usually in alphabetic order by surnames, then if you want to change order to e.g. some other field that groups of people share, e.g. province, state, department, etc., you STILL want the records WITHIN each prov., state, dept. etc. in name order.
Chealer: currently TikiWiki doesn't seem to consider this case. As soon as I sort by Department, Country, etc., the records within each group are in a nonsense order. (In creation, i.e., ItemId order, I think)
chealer: as a step to try to alter the ORDER by I came across the concertSortMode function to which (almost) all $sort_mode values appear to be passed, just as they are placed into the ORDER BY command.
omstefanov: convertSortMode seems to accept a comma-separated list of sorts
Chealer: looking at this function in the TikiDb.php module, yes, it seems to accept a comma-separated list, but that doesn't work in TRACKERLIST. 
Chealer: there params are separated by commas. In the fields param, where you can give various fields, the separator is a colon.
Chealer: I also tried to put the string between single quotes. Got same error message. To debug, I needed to make sure I was actually looking at the right module. That's what I asked in ICQ.
omstefanov: I don't know trackers much, and don't know them at all internally. from what you tell me, replacing colons with commas before calling convertSortMode() could be a solution. otherwise, I'm afraid I can't put too much time helping you.
Chealer: Thanks. You've already been a great help. Seems I get the same answer from practically all developers in the community re trackers. (Except Sylvie, but then she simply DOES things, without telling me where or how she does them.
It's the only feeding me a fish, as opposed to teaching me how to fish.
polom