tikiwiki: 03luciash * r26931 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: czech language: more translations for the installer
good morning @all
 New Forum Posts: Mail feature not working - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37127
polom
morning everyone
 New Forum Posts: Alt tags on images - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37128
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26932 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] When a profile attempts to set an undeclared preference, a fatal error occured instead of just setting the value as plain text (past behavior lost with added intelligence in pref management)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26933 10/branches/5.x/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Perspective filter broken by change in the expected input format
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26934 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki-plugins/ (wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php wikiplugin_trackerlist.php): [FIX]trackerfilter: when using compute, compute only on the filtered items not all the items
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r26935 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] text field cannot have default in some operating systems
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26936 10/branches/5.x/tiki-admin.php: [FIX]log: the pref value can be an array
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26937 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] Filters for code prefs (so they can be used in perspectives)
polom
hi luciash
hi luciash 
hi all
 New Forum Posts: Category Permissions not overriding Global Permissions - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37132
hi all!
just a question for curiosity...is someone ever configure the tiki webmail with a domino server(lotus notes)?
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r26938 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] This module displays the last videos of any given Youtube playlist
polom
polom
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Marc: good video!!  :)
tks
RavenC : the pressure is on to make it work
for you & chealer
I guess so
:-)
no turning back now :-)
exactly!  I think with 5, we have a winner to get it going
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3165 - - Search, Catagories and File Gallery permissions issues in 4.2 Stable - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3165
hi marclaporte 
there's pressure on RavenC to get IIS support?
no, that pressure is reserved for you chealer!  :)
I'm back on it as soon as the room is clean
unfortunately I don't have videos of myself on the vacuum cleaner
@marclaporte: im going to make some minor editorial changes to the MWNW article, if ok.
and then submit to news outlets, too
yes rick!
good video too :-)
hmm, installer from step 6 to 7 doesn't continue on clicking the button Continue
branch5
is this known issue ?
FF 6
(no error in console btw)
hmm, can be a non-english lang set the culprit it doesn't work for me ?
luciash, not to me. what happens?
nope, the same step in english doesn't continue either
nothing happens, just clicking the button [Continue] does nothing
luciash, on a fresh install, upgrade, either?
fresh install, actuall after clicking [Reinstall]
after Upgrade, it doesn't work either
(just tried)
luciash, which PHP version?
luciash, do you have a JavaScript error?
step 5 [Upgrade] ... → step 6 [Continue]
PHP 5.2.10
no JS error surprisingly
luciash, so step 5 to step 6 works fine, but clicking the continue button in step "6. Review the Upgrade" does nothing?
exactly
there's workaround to click on the menu item on the left, but...
luciash, is this a test install we could try?
it's fresh branch5, no modifs
localhost unfo
rtunately
luciash, I don't have that problem on mine.
FF 6 ?
oh, sorry
Ubuntu here
what's FF 6?
Firefox 6
heheh
hum, no... Firefox 3.6
oups, sorry :-p
sure 3.6 i mean
...yeah
luciash, do you have the Live HTTP Headers extension?
3.6.3
luciash, me too
i don't have that one but i can install it quickly
luciash, yes. .é;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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oops, that was Cannelle
:)
done, i have the extension now
sorry
well, what to do now... actually the button reacts on clicking as focused but other than that does subit nothing
luciash, check if clicking the button causes an HTTP request
*submit
luciash, so you see no HTTP request when clicking it?
nope
luciash, in that case, please provide the problematic page
it's like dead button
:-p http://localhost/tikibranch5/tiki-install.php?install_step=5&lang=en
i'll try to install it on my test server
and see if it happens there too
very weird
maybe it is some other extension causing this
i will try with clean FF profile yet
weird for me too: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-install.php
hmm, interesting, the page source shows: <input type="submit" value=" Continue " />
but no <form> around
marclaporte: can you send me db login info in pm ?
to test on yours
ricks99: +1 to have upcoming events (Tiki-events, or events that Tiki people will attend) on front page on info (in a module)
luciash, I see...
marclaporte: and to cheal, to convince him ;)
ricks99 : I prefer to keep as much as possible of the event coordination on wiki pages on the community site
if we think ahead, we'll want Team meetings on the calendar too (ex.: BBB meeting about feature X)
If you feel strongly it should be on info, because it's like news, I am ok with that
cheal: you can go directly to step 6 and left the db unchanged and try to click that button
install step 5 prob: must be a recent commit
step 6, yes marc, i suspect that too
some of us is not up-to-date :)
cheal ? ;)
luciash, sorry, struggling with distraction
it looks like sylvie's 26926
sylvieg: can you repair, pls ? :) 
is it broken?
sylvieg: in the tpl you did -<form action="tiki-install.php" method="post"> but it seems it is out of the IF condition in step 6 already
or something
the form tags are missing in step 6 page
oh, sorry. it worked on trunk
yeah, I see the problem too.
the opening form tag is missing
sorry guys
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26939 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: oops
sylvieg: thank you
sylvieg : thank you
i am just translating whole installer to czech so i stumbled upon it
I am so sure .. I thought I tested tested ..
I have a problem one base on my local 5 - all the admins does not have javascript working... 
has somebody an idea?
you mean only Admins group ?
yes
luciash, good catch, sorry and thanks
it's fixed, but the page doesn't validate
there's a form/div mismatch
well, as far as it works :)
again me
sylvieg: weird, do we have a JS perm ?
@marclaporte: pls re-re-view article and if ok to release to all news outlets?
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26940 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: oops
what tool do you use the see the html validation
is there a plugin for chrome or FF?
web developer add-on has it
for ff
chrome has it on right click menu too i think
ok found it thx luciash
sylvieg, I use web developer like luciash 
howdy!
!help
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ahah it is {debugger} that bugs and my js are not loaded
sylvieg: ah, uh, oh :)
is {debuger} working for somebody?
working and valid!
(that was for the installer)
sylvieg, do you mean Smarty {debug} ?
no {debugger} with the feature feature_debug_console
sylvieg, hum. anyway, did you see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=3037&trackerId=5&show=view ?
yes it is the same
ricks99 : http://webcom-world.com/montreal/?page_id=178&lang=en&speak_id=31
any other tiki-ers @ mwnw or jus tu?
rick: Community Partners not Community Party
:-)
damn spell check
ricks99 : other will be there, like Regis, probably LP, etc  (the usual local suspects)
they giving talks?
i didnt see anything on schedule
not sure about that part
it's more a round table type of thing, I think
what is (or do we have) a policy of 'advertising' for specific people/companies at events?
is there an issue with highlight u & ur talk?
something like... "Several Tiki community members will attend the conference, including Marc Laportee who is scheduled to ..... blah blah
as the 'official' voice of tiki, should we be concerned about showing (intended or not) favortisim to any specific community contributor?
sylvieg, I don't see any problem on 5.x
but your are in php 5.4.2?
sylvieg, I use PHP 5.2.12
because if I change all the constant NO_RESULT,... in tempaltes/debug/tiki-debug_console_tab.tpl
sylvieg, note that it must be debug*g*er
I am on php3
:-( 5.3
sylvieg, I can reboot to 5.3.1 if you wish
can be an idea
OK
for me the debugger works if I repalce the define with the numeric values / I see nothing yet just it does not bug smarty - and so the js are loaded
chealer or me the debugger works if I repalce the define with the numeric values / I see nothing yet just it does not bug smarty - and so the js are loaded
sylvieg: I'm on 5.3.1, {debug} works fine
not {debug}
{debugger}
sylvieg: maybe we're confused. {debugger} doesn't work
the smarty code that use the feature feature_debug_console
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26941 10/branches/5.x/templates/debug/tiki-debug_console_tab.tpl: [FIX]debug: smarty can not compile the define and so the javascripts are not loaded (perhaps touch only php5.3) - does not bug anymore but still showing nothing
sylvieg: oh, sorry, that's a little confusing.
sylvieg: do you have {debugger} working on any version?
A long time ago..
1.9 perhaps..
Seems to work for jonny
Have a nice evening everyone
sylvieg: so you were saying you have the same bug as pkdille?
yes the tabs were not working for me also
(the other point - I did not check)
sylvieg: I don't have that issue then
on 5.3.1?
sylvieg: yes, as well as on 5.2.12
sylvieg: IOW, your site is partially screwed up when you apply Debug_Mode_Enabled?
sylvieg: I don't know what should happen, but I don't see any change when I put {debugger}, so I guess it's broken.
in the menu after calendar you will see (debug)
sylvieg: doesn't enabling feature_debug_console already do that?
yes but the div should toggle (I do nto see the dic)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r26942 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [MOD] 1- Attempting to reduce the confusion between the two search engines. 2-
tikiwiki: Turning off search by default 3- Promoting MYSQL-search as the best search.
tikiwiki: Still todo: A- have highlighted search logo on tiki-admin.php?page=search to use
tikiwiki: feature_search_fulltext B- How to have feature_sitesearch have a dependency of
tikiwiki: feature_search_fulltext OR feature_search
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r26943 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/setup/prefs.php templates/tiki-sitesearchbar.tpl): 
tikiwiki: [MOD] 1- Attempting to reduce the confusion between the two search engines. 2-
tikiwiki: Turning off search by default 3- Promoting MYSQL-search as the best search.
tikiwiki: Still todo: A- have highlighted search logo on tiki-admin.php?page=search to use
tikiwiki: feature_search_fulltext B- How to have feature_sitesearch have a dependency of
tikiwiki: feature_search_fulltext OR feature_search (missing commit)
sylvieg: what does that mean. you don't need to click on "(debug)" when you have {debugger}?
{debugger} produce the div debugconsole
{debug) toggles it
so far I understand
sylvieg: so you mean if you don't have {debugger}, clicking "(debug)" will do nothing?
probably
sylvieg: so how does it work, you put {debugger} on a page you're trying to debug?
no the {debugger} is put automaticcaly in the footer
sylvieg: so you're supposed to see that if you look in Admin Look & Feel?
no it is in templates/footer.tpl
ehm, I see
sylvieg: in that case, I would say that {debugger} is working fine for me on PHP 5.3.1
do you see the div debugconsole?
sylvieg: well, I guess that's what I see. clicking "(debug)" works fine here.
sylvieg: for you, nothing happens when you click (debug) ?
what about "Debugger Console" in Admin Look & Feel? is that used at all?
it is working now...
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26944 10/branches/5.x/templates/debug/tiki-debug_console_tab.tpl: [FIX]debug: smarty can not compile the define and so the javascripts are not loaded (perhaps touch only php5.3) - does not bug anymore but still showing nothing
sylvieg: huh, it's working but showing nothing?
oops
.. I am bad today
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26945 10/third_party/ckeditor/ (89 files in 21 dirs): [MOD] Minor update on ckeditor (to 3.2.1)
gn
heh, something for you: http://blip.fm/profile/luciash/blip/43539641/Rashad+Nasir%E2%80%93Bad+Day :)
sylvieg: ^
minor update, 89 files changed
marclaporte: can you svn up mobile
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26946 10/branches/5.x/tiki-syslog.php: [FIX]logs: missing pagination
luciash: :-)
done, confirmed fixed
:-)
is action log necessary?
marclaporte: about the math  message on devel the cnrs has the plugin text http://help.csregistry.org/tiki-index.php?page=LatexExample
Should it be moved out of experimental?
I am very confused about the way sept7 reorganized that
nice latex!
I thought the plugin was in tw .. but seems it is not ... :-(
niclone did also http://help.csregistry.org/googlecalendar and did not commit
niclone!
feature_topbar_debug : why is this needed in addition to feature_debug_console?
marclaporte: I don't know, I was looking. just finishing with the vacuum cleaner and I'll investigate/kill it.
LOL
chealer: maybe you can vacuum-clean it too ? ;)
AFAICT, feature_topbar_debug has disappeared somehow...
not sure what the point was though...
luciash: that's what will most likely happen to it, yes :-)
I can't find any use of it even in 3
i think the feature was actually moved from the topbar to the footer
I see luciash moved it in Look & Feel from Site Identity, but that was in CVS times, hard to go back verify how it was introduced
luciash: it could be something like that. though there's no feature for it in the footer currently.
but guys ... is really this feature useful?
sure, i think these are just some uncleaned stuff and not needed anymore actually ( the feature_topbar_debug)
sylvieg: i barely used that just to try what it does and it was never really useful for me
+1 to delte it .. must ask jonnyb as the last one to work on it
or i didn't know how to work with it :-p
it avoids you to put a little line in a tpl... more or less
kind of I debug but I do not have access to teh files...
about debug thing: Ideally it would be movable (a la jquery)
perhaps people that change tpls needs this..
and why need to click? It should appear all the time, no?  (if on)
the debug box is draggable
duh, sorry (I remembered that it wasn't)
a cookie is set to remember the div is hidden or not
when I type feature, or sprint, nothing happens
features probably not updated with the new -not so new- features changes
sylvieg: I never developed the habit to use the debug console. I don't know.
I propose to set a vote - is this feature useful ..
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Debugger+Console
marclaporte: sprint takes an argument (Smarty variable name)
what could this thing do better than {debug} in a template?
well, at least the debug console doesn't need you to put "debug"
avoid you to do ssh and change the tpl..
it does allow a few SQL things {debug} doesn't
if you put {debug} in site identity, it's easy
which would be useful *if* someone doesn't have DB access
+1 for marclaporte
watch  Manage variables watch list -> what does this do?
Better if we can merge the two (ie: nuke one of the two)
{debug} is a core Smarty function, BTW
maybe the debugger feature becomes a {debug}
{debugger} is a custom one
good night all
by yonixxx
nite yonixxx 
sweet dreams 
if I type "help watch", I have an explanation
but is it working?
dunno
1st thing: any interesting ideas there?
2nd thing: are the interesting things working?
3rd if not working, are they worth the energy to fix?
if no yes answers, we should nuke
no for me
joony is the only one committing on this these last days
I send a message to the list?
+1
the tiki5 blockers... the perms files - not an easy one
I mailes xavi with all hos blockers .. waiting for answer
message sent
thx
I give up trying to understand what happened to feature_topbar_debug
when moving it to Look & Feel. it's a good thing we switched to SVN!
+1 for svn too
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26947 10/branches/5.x/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Numerous small XHTML fixes: modules, user menu and textarea
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r26948 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Vacuum-clean feature_topbar_debug, which appears unused since at least Tiki 3
chealer : not in 5.x?
sylvieg: it's me
pagination on topic or on post?
topic
thx
humm pagination on topic working for me
what is the dev.tw bug id?
I didn't report one
one thing not working on forum is mulitple delete
i pointed to a thread with 21 messages
only 20 appear
and page 2 didn't work for me
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WikiBlame
ah ok .. it is factual bug
y
I think I will do tiki blame on my free time 
just for fun :-)
sylvieg : did you see strasa.css top issue?
http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-index.php  -> switch to strasa
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3166 - - Thumbnails not working for multiple image uploads (batch) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3166
marclaporte: will have a loom tomorrow - food time - as I am probably the culprit
no, not you
thanks for eveyrhting
see you tomorrow
you fixed in general
same fix needs to be done there too because forked tpl
I know you don't like forked tpls
is the strasa issue still there ? we talked about it with gary and i think the conclusion was that it happens only when something is in L&F custom code but not published... wrong conditioning (maybe strasa still has its own tpl file ?)
http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-index.php just switch to strasa
ah, sylvie fioxed the condition in general tpl but not in strasa ?
*fixed
voila
sylvieg: that would be pretty cool.
sylvieg: I think I looked at implementing that several months ago, probably following a question on tikiwiki-devel.
marclaporte: it could go there. though nothing is really "broken" so it doesn't need to.
chealer: What are you referring to?