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i.e. delete templates/styles/geo luciash: yep ccxx: luciash, thanks. luciash: if the package contains structure like templates/styles/tikipedia and styles/tikipedia.css, you uncompress it in your tiki installation root dir ccxx: luciash, thanks!
er if it is tikipedia_tiki_3/styles/tikipedia?
when I try to apply a new theme (tikipedia for instance) I get "Sea Surfing (CSRF) detected. Operation blocked" What does this mean? luciash: when it is like that, you have to unpack it somewhere else and then move only contents of tikipedia_tiki_3/ ccxx: ah.. ok.
that worked.. I needed to disable the "Require confirmation if possible CSRF detected" because it would not allow the admin to change the theme. is this a known issue? ***: Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) chealer: luciash: the rationale for Pages is that it offers more than a list of pages, it's an administrative interface allowing people with the required privileges to create, delete, edit, etc. pages.
except it's not Admin Pages, because plain users can access it too.
it's a mix between, say List Quizzes and Admin Quizzes franck: marclaporte: Hi ***: ccxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki yonixxx: morning ***: Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: polom coaboa: good morning CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27096 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] change a few defaults a) minify css is reported to cause issues on some installs so better let people activate it. b) New logo luciash: chealer: i understand but "Wiki" > "Pages" sounded dull and didn't give a clue what is behind and that you can quickly create a new wiki page there
polom everybody marclaporte: polom luci -: marclaporte smells Tiki5rc marclaporte: luciash : any quick ideas for logos for the new features in admin panel? (payment, advanced rating, etc?)
everytime I try to figure out logos, it takes me an eternity!
:-) luciash: payment: striked through "c" vertically maybe ?
advanced rating: no idea
:) marclaporte: hehe luciash: marclaporte: but i wonder if it should go to the Admin panel, if it is not tiki-admin.php?page=payment
shouldn't it be in the menu only ? marclaporte: yes, it is that URL luciash: ah, i thought one of them you sent me were not marclaporte: perhaps
the logo doesn't have enough space in the top. How do I move the curvey line a few pixels to the right?
they should all be findable from tiki-admin.php
I know the bottom on tiki-admin.php is ugly luciash: see how i did it on profiles.tw.o in Admin > L&F > Misc > CSS Code marclaporte: but I prefer that the 42 menu has the strict basics (menu, groups, users) and most features be in tiki-admin.php
awesome thanks! luciash: "Need icon for Tiki Payment to appear in tiki-admin.php and link to tiki-payment.php"
so i thought it is not tiki-admin.php?page=payment marclaporte: div#sitelogo img { margin-top: 24px;} luciash: sorry marclaporte: is what is there now. I add or replace with margin-left: -24px ? -: marclaporte is like a kid in school with a chemistry set! luciash: yes, in fivealive you can remove that and add margin-left: -24px for the "talkative" Tiki logo
i didn't tested in IE browsers though, it was a "quick fix" on profiles.tw.o
maybe it would be better if the "curvy line" of the header edge was 24px more to the right
dunno how the designer did it that the logo doesn't fit in marclaporte: how do I move the curvy line to the right? luciash: no idea :) maybe it is background image and needs to be modified marclaporte: ugh luciash: or give it position, something like background: white url('somepathtothebgimage') 24px 0 no-repeat;
in CSS
i can check CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27097 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] quick hack so logo doesn't overlap with header. background image needs adjusting. marclaporte: thanks, I just committed a quick fix luciash: it seems to be set for the #header ***: Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki luciash: on profiles it's minified so i don't see exactly where, i will check in my local copy
i see, line 346
instead of -375px, -350px should help ***: Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) marclaporte: tks luciash: gotta go for now, bbl
marclaporte: btw, installer has still the older logo marclaporte: ok, tks Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Linkverzeichnis, Berechtigungen - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=37172 marclaporte: argh, now, I need gif logos for IE6 yonixxx: hi marc how can i help ? marclaporte: do you have IE6? CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27098 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] changing to new logo, better fix for more space in top section
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27099 10/branches/5.x/tiki-install.php: [MOD] new name & logo in installer marclaporte: yonixxx: : can you help make Tiki5 work with new logo and name? yonixxx: ok sorry here...
you need IE6 ? where i'm right now i should find a computer with IE6... what you want me to check ? marclaporte: never mind IE6 yonixxx: ok, then ? marclaporte: can you get branches/5.x
and run the installer yonixxx: Mmm yes i should be able to do so marclaporte: the top of the installer needs to look like the rest yonixxx: from link dload on tw or svn ? -: changi Preparing RC :) marclaporte: svn
yay changi! yonixxx: :) installing right now a brand new branches/5.x from svn -: changi dev/doc/tv/themes are up2date marclaporte: changi: can I have one last commit? changi: yes you have time, i've to sync my local repos first
and i have 500 commit to pass :) marclaporte: hehe changi: and for me it's lunch time :) CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27100 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive/options/ (6 files): [FIX] make top big enough for new logo marclaporte: sites will look better now ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: hi jonnyb jonnyb: morning marclaporte
early or late? marclaporte: both
:-)
I'll sleep more when I am dead jonnyb: i think we should make you your own timezone in tiki :) marclaporte: but for now, lots to do!
Tiki_tz jonnyb: i was thinking i need (once 5.0 is really out) to go back to your long list of a while ago and recap marclaporte: yes, I just got great news today jonnyb: oh? marclaporte: A large company picking Tiki for main Intranet
4000 employees jonnyb: :O yonixxx: Marc it is slow... still uploading files... -: marclaporte is going to need more great jQuery juice for spreadsheets, e-learning yonixxx: Hey congrat Marc i happy you get it ! jonnyb: i'll go and start milking the jCow marclaporte: LOL
tks yonixxx CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27101 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive/options/ (6 files): [FIX] harmonizing fivealive options with the main one marclaporte: the funny thing is that they didn't see BBB and Kaltura and still said yes jonnyb: on another topic... i've just removed the ugly, stupid default blog heading from a site again (client request) and i think we should remove some of it from the default on 5.0 - shall i? marclaporte: yes, on 5.0 plz ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie marclaporte: it was horrible
what a relic jonnyb: or (better i think) hide it from anyone who can't post there?
as it has number of posts, hits etc in marclaporte: having a box there is fine, but it should be empty
if you want, put the smarty code in the template as an example
so new admins can see what Smarty is and how they could make their header nicer and with dynamic stats
as you wish
just as long as default installs are clean :-) jonnyb: maybe in a comment... ok marclaporte: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/ if I try a wrong password (just to test), I get Fatal error: Class 'TikiLib' not found in /home/demotw/3.0/5x/lib/logs/logslib.php on line 14 instead of database-connection-error.tpl (which I am trying to test) CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27102 10/branches/5.x/templates/database-connection-error.tpl: [MOD] name & logo change
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27103 10/branches/5.x/templates/blog-heading.tpl: [MOD] Put ancient, ugly "bloginfo" default blog header code in a comment so it doesn't show on blogs, but is there as an example if needed. -: yonixxx still waiting the install to complete... jonnyb: i get the error just clicking on the link
svn conflict? marclaporte: yes, because I faked a bad password jonnyb: oh right - in local.db you mean marclaporte: y
i think it may be due to a recent enhancement CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27104 10/trunk/ (15 files in 9 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Introduce the WYWIWYG in Wiki syntax. Allow to edit wiki page in WYSIWYG
tikiwiki: mode but keeping the wiki syntax. This should work for basic pages, there is
tikiwiki: still pb with smiley, wikiplugin can not be edited in WYSIWYG mode, etc...
tikiwiki: To activate go in the WYSIWYG admin panel et check the "Use Wiki syntax in
tikiwiki: WYSIWYG" checkbox, of course you need ajax... jonnyb: on it locally
cooo, interesting commit... sept_7 finally got his wysiwyg thing working? marclaporte: awsome
the holy grail!
I can just see Geoff jumping around in joy jonnyb: i wonder if he's using ckeditor - or will we have to do it all again...
hope so! marclaporte: hehe jonnyb: hmmm, the db error - logslib needs tikilib...
which needs prefs etc
which if the database is broken isn't going to happen necessarily marclaporte: how was it before? no logging of error? jonnyb: no idea - i do history sylvieg: I adde log on error recently jonnyb: nope - sylvieg added that last month
rollback? (i can't work out a proper fix)
r26892 marclaporte: good morning Sylvie! jonnyb: :) sylvieg: when exactly is it happening marclaporte: sylvieg & jonnyb: I hope you two will be in NY in October for TikiFest6! sylvieg: because logging the error is nice jonnyb: logslib is far too heavy for use there - you could probably write out a simple text file in temp if needed sylvieg: - perhaps I can do a simplify add_log marclaporte: sylvieg: just simulate a wrong password in db/local.php jonnyb: it depends on user and prefs
i don't think (especially for 5.0) you should re-engineer logslib just for this one error
and if the database isn't there how can you log anything in it? sylvieg: rollback- I will do a simple query for the case - but now breakfast jonnyb: ok, will do sylvieg: in any case there is a lot of messy stuff when you are not able to connect to db jonnyb: that commit hit three files - just checking the others now CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27105 10/branches/5.x/db/ (tiki-db-adodb.php tiki-db-pdo.php tiki-db.php): [FIX] Rollback r26892 : Don't try to log database errors in the database that has the error. -: yonixxx still download files... marclaporte: yuk, check the error page! http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-index.php jonnyb: mmm - tasty!
which template makes that?
(sorry, just had the file open, didn't i!) marclaporte: database-connection-error.tpl jonnyb: found it - need more coffee... ***: Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: try that, marclaporte CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27106 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Cosmetics for error page jonnyb: by the way, setting tiki 5 to use a tiki 3 database is a really good way to get an interesting error message! :) marclaporte: LOL -: marclaporte wonders if we want to advertise Tiki when there is an error marclaporte: maybe nuke top logo altogether?
mine just says System error.
An error occured while performing the request.
no Things to check: Is your database up and running?, etc jonnyb: hmmm, the file will be called tiki-index.php of something, so you can't hide it sylvieg: showing an helpful message is far more important than a pretty message jonnyb: but both is best, no?
i think Marc's thinking about branding more thanelegance, y? marclaporte: well, it says twice on the page that it's Tiki (3 with the URL)
but yes, main thing is helpful message to resolve jonnyb: i also i think failing gracefully is a civilised way of doing software - it's rude to make a mess! marclaporte: or let's just make Tiki fail proof! :-) jonnyb: 9.9 ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: oh dear - i seem to have slipped into a bit of kaltura testing (was supposed to be doing TikiKart!!)
a couple more commits on their way CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27107 10/branches/5.x/ (db/tiki-db-adodb.php templates/database-connection-error.tpl): [FIX]error: use a different error message when enable to connect to db in non verbose mode ricks99: ping jonnyb jonnyb: pong ricks99 ricks99: tx for your work on the colorbox for info.tw.o...
1 questions... CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27108 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] moving features around in admin panel jonnyb: hmm? ricks99: it does not seem to respect the showtitle=y CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27109 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-kaltura_video.tpl: [FIX] Kaltura: Move rogue hidden input into the nearest form jonnyb: oh? ***: verschdl has left "Fleisch & http://quassel-irc.org" ricks99: y. using as code ::{colorbox fgalId="4" thumb="y" sort_mode="random" showtitle="y" showfilename="n" showallthumbs="n"}:: jonnyb: it does for me ricks99: hm....
maybe need to re-svn up
will get back 2 u then.
and tx jonnyb: might be to do with the gallery prefs?
*gallery display prefs ricks99: when i bbrowse the gallery, the title does appear
http://info.tikiwiki.org/file4 jonnyb: this in info.two?
ta ricks99: y
crap. i cleared cache and now the colorbox is no longer being used for the pop up :(
wtf jonnyb: i just got that - lib not loaded yet i think
it works for me now - but i'm getting the title twice... ricks99: arg. u see the image title in the module left column? -: ricks99 restarts his browser
changi lets start ***: Rockj has quit IRC (*.net *.split) ricks99: wtf. ie, ff, and chrome. I do *not* see the image title below the thumbnail in the "featured tiki" module :-(
and clicking simply opens a new window -- not the colorbox popup marclaporte: fivealive.css has a weird character at .calbuttonBox?@a:hover, jonnyb: seems ok for me ricks99 (in firefox & safari) ricks99: ok. i see the issue...
the {COLORBOX} does not accpe thte alt="foo" paramter
i removed it and now working CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27110 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] delete rogue character in css ricks99: (pop up anyway) but still do not see title :(
i see the title in the popupl -- but it is not shown in the actual module CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27111 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Add new version for release ricks99: (and yes, I see it twice in the popup)
no alt for colorbox will break xhtml validation marclaporte: can someone help with the installer, the top is weird, and I am not sure how to fix
changi is making rc!!
changi :
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in /home/demotw/3.0/5x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php on line 119 jonnyb: seems broken - yes, i get the same CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27112 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] oups
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27113 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] action log can't be experimental and on by default changi: oups
in installer, logo is a too much on the right, groupware is cut marclaporte: yes changi, I don't know how to fix there ***: Rockj has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: the curve needs to move to the right and push the text jonnyb: changi: i think you missed a comma on line 119 of twversion.class.php changi: jonnyb: it's fix with my oups commit
n27112 jonnyb: i re-up changi: marclaporte, it's strenge because on the final website it's ok jonnyb: shall i try and shift the logo? marclaporte: yes, plz changi: yes i think too -: changi checking db difference between fresh and upgrade CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27114 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-register_site.tpl: [MOD] one more logo change ***: Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27115 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Installer: Quick fix for logo in fivealive theme installer ***: yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: yonixxx) marclaporte: changi: svn up sur dev? changi: marclaporte: thereis a sql script to update logo from Tiki3 to Tiki4
did you made one for TIki5 ? marclaporte: no changi: installer/schema/20090921_logo_tiki.sql marclaporte: I am not sure we should changi: dev up2date marclaporte: yes, but now, we have reset to default in admin panel
and users are not really supposed to keep the tiki logo for their site
I don't object but wonder if it's worth the time changi: ok marclaporte: jonnyb: installer is good now changi: thx jonny jonnyb: :) changi: we have a db difference between fresh install and upgrade
in table tiki_modules
position and ord are force to be not null on upgrade and not on fresh
is that a proble ?
m CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27116 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] typo jonnyb: was that one of mine changi ? changi: don't know jonnyb: just checking
hmmm - lots of hits on that table - hard to tell... ***: MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki luciash: re-polom jonnyb: changi: looks like those changes are in tiki_1.9to2.0.sql marclaporte: css question: a:visited�@{color: #114499; text-decoration: none;} jonnyb: hi luciash marclaporte: is @ something valid in the line above? or just a rogue char? jonnyb: which file marclaporte changi: that one : 20100409_bigger_module_params_tiki.sql luciash: marclaporte: now the logo on profiles.tw.o is way too low again and the first menu item on top is unreadable :-/ marclaporte: styles/arcturus/options/geo.css changi: it's because we add a index on it luciash: marclaporte: the @ seems like an error to me marclaporte: I fixed one already: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css?r1=27110&r2=27109&pathrev=27110 but I see others jonnyb: oh right... but they had indexes on those cols before, so i guess tiki.sql should be changed to be the same... luciash: the @ is only valid when pointing to media or import changi: you do or i do ? jonnyb: agreed - looks like charset corruption
changi: can you pls? changi: yes jonnyb: ta
marclaporte: i only see those in geo.cs - are you fixing it? or shall i? marclaporte: I will fix, but there are some in mods CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27117 10/branches/5.x/styles/arcturus/options/geo.css: [FIX] rogue characters marclaporte: how to grep mods for this? ***: danielgauthier has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: hi danielgauthier ***: Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki danielgauthier: Hello all! CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27118 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki.sql: [FIX] Difference between upgrade and fresh ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki RavenC: morning all ***: uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -: changi db is now ok jonnyb: nice one changi marclaporte: RavenC: you up to test Tiki5 RC on Windows?
changi is packaging as we speak RavenC: sure! luciash: marclaporte: db needs update on profiles marclaporte: yes, but the message won't go away luciash: a pity we can't have a cookie remember for closed remarksboxes
in the RC marclaporte: I guess I need to use the new feature sylvieg made to ignore db updates luciash: didn't have time to sneak it in jonnyb: sadly luciash it would need several hours of creating, but i was thinking the same the other day... luciash: can we have stripped down versions of the language files ?
like removing all untranslated strings ?
those starting with //
marclaporte: why the message won't go away ?
also i wanted to remove the temporary "Quick Admin: ..." marclaporte: I think they'll disappear when packaging (extra lines in lang) luciash: it's not styled nicely
ah, that would be cool marc jonnyb: also "quick admin" breaks some pages... i forget which ones now, something to do with the mysterious ticketlib CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27119 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-db.php: [FIX]log: log database error only when connection done(26892, 27105) +rollback 26545 (error are log now) -: changi is it possible to stop commit during packaging :) marclaporte: hahahahahha
ok, we freeze for RC? luciash: changi: why ? just package revision you choose ? or isn't it possible with the script ? sylvieg: are you packaging? changi: @sylvieg : yes sylvieg: oh sorry changi: no problem
it's just to update readme copyright and etc :) luciash: i need to fix the fivealive header for the logo still, marc's fix is not optimal -: sylvieg going to work in trunk changi: @luciash: i don't think so ***: uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki changi: @luciash: how much time do you need
? marclaporte: thanks for making is better luci ricks99: @changi (or anyone): is it possible to generate some basic stats for 5.0? such as # of commits, # of contributors, etc? changi: http://stats.tikiwiki.org/branches/5.x/ luciash: changi: 10 mins changi: @luciash: no problem danielgauthier: Marc, can I trouble you to change de the-director address of: kaltura@tikiwiki.org on my side for my personal address. I'm not receiving the emails on my side. luciash: marclaporte: it needs to be fixed in the theme options too or just the default one fivealive.css ? ricks99: @changi: is that only for 5.0 or overall? changi: only 5.0 ricks99: perfect. tx changi: you're welcome marclaporte: theme options if we want all the sites to be nice ricks99: 734 commits and 23 coontributs for 5.0! kudos all marclaporte: more than that
that is perhaps since we branched
but trunk commits since 4.x branch must count as well ricks99: @marclaporte: am i reading the stats wrong? CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27120 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: fivealive theme: better fix to accomodate the new TWCG logo ricks99: Author Count : 23
^^^ isn't that the number of contribuors for this release? changi: marc is right: it is since we branch luciash: marclaporte: r u going to update the new favicon and buttons too ? marclaporte: oh
I have to go for a meeting
if you could do, I'd appreciate changi: luciash: nice job ***: boss2real has joined #tikiwiki boss2real: hello
how can help me with tiki mail for admin configuration? -: changi i think i will wait til tomorrow to make the RC1 :)
luciash wonders why the logo in installer is positioned differently than in security precaution page and in tiki itself changi: luciash: me too :) luciash: changi: maybe it is wise choice :) boss2real: can anyone help me? changi: boss2real: what's your problem ? ricks99: @changi: is there a way to change the date range on the stat page? currently only shows march - may changi: ricks99: no it's based on svn commit in this folder boss2real: i activated mail for the confirmation email when register ok tiki marclaporte: great work everyone! Tiki5 rocks Back in 7-8 hours boss2real: i made the configs but it does not work ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) ricks99: @boss2real: by default, tiki uses php sendmail. check ur mail configs in your php.ini file ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: nite nite) -: changi ricks99 is faster than lucky luke ricks99: lol
easy questions are my specialty :) boss2real: ok, i go there now ricks99: thats why *YOU* are in charge of packinging -- not me :) changi: ricks99: lol ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: @changi: any way to change stat date range. i want to find out totals between 4.2 and 5.0 luciash: ah i see, it is because on profiles.tw.o there is the special top bar menu, so it needs to be shifted 24px actually from top by default, but -24px in sites using that top menu
so my mistake, sorry ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Client Quit) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Where do I remove the "strong" tags which affect page titles? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=37175 CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27121 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: fivealive theme: oops, sitelogo is dependent on topmost menu bar on or off changi: ricks99: no easally
oups not easally ricks99: :-( luciash: everybody gets 1px vertical space under tabs in fivealive theme too ?
i get it in Ubuntu Chrome and Gecko browsers changi: i just need to have the 1 commit and the last, and i can create a quick script to count the number of contrib luciash: i just need to know if i can adjust it -: ricks99 knows very little about how/where to find first/last commit :( changi: ricks99: you want to know the number of contrib since the fork in branch 5 ? ricks99: i want to be able to say that XXX contributors created YYY commits for Tiki 5
XXX = contributors, YYY = transactions changi: ricks99 since when ? ricks99: the last release 4.2 changi: so i think that the information i gave you on the website are pretty good
because it take the first commit and the last since we branch on Tiki5 luciash: nevermind, i commit :) changi: luciash: sorry, yes you can ricks99: hm... ok what if i wanted to see from 4.0 - 5.0 CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27122 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] fivealive theme: better tabs position - no 1px space under them ricks99: from nov 2009 - may 2010 changi: for that i need to make it by hand boss2real: can i put here mai mail config to give me an opinion??? ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki changi: ricks99: i just update the stat on the website boss2real: can i put here mai mail config to give me an opinion???
pls changi: boss2real: by mail at changi_at_tikiwiki.org
ricks99: i get 57 contributors
ricks99: correction only 40 contributors
boss2real: are you on Windows ? boss2real: yes changi: boss2real: for this time i can help
oups can't boss2real: but why?
who can help me on windows? changi: ricks99: ?? boss2real: ricks99...
can you help me please ricks99: y. what is issue ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki changi: ricks99: it's about a php.ini config on a windows CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27123 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] fivealive theme: some styling for db/tiki.sqlquickadmin -: changi have to go
changi will start RC1 tomorrow afternoon boss2real: problem solved
i think that "Validate user's email server." has a bug ricks99: are you on a sharedserver boss2real?
many shared hosts disable dns lookup functionality
see docs for details http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Login+Config CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27124 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [ENH] fivealive theme: some space around icons is good ***: FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki
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changi: did u update the site right now ? changi: on going on dev/doc
have not access to profiles
but on dev/doc it's ths logo that desapear
luciash: another thing, on doc the update item on the menu goes on a new line.( in french ) luciash: update item ? ***: Ma has left
RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) changi: luciash: Mise à jour in the menu Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3178 - - Multiple IE fixes for tiki-js.js and tiki-jquery.js TikiWiki V4.2 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3178 chealer: luciash: I agree that "Pages" doesn't sound good
luciash: but I disagree that "List pages" gives more clue than "Pages" that you can create a page there.
luciash: and I don't think "List pages" gives a better idea of what is behind than "Pages" luciash: chealer: that is why there is "Create a Wiki Page" now
chealer: and "List Pages" gives me clue there is a list of pages behind it instead of Pages giving me only a question "what pages... for what is this menu item when there is already Wiki item ?"
and it respects the environment, when there are other features having "List something" too
you would need to rebuild the whole menu from scratch to make this change a sense chealer: luciash: "List pages" also doesn't say what pages are listed luciash: i think "Create a Wiki Page" for fresh installs is far better than what there was before
Wiki > List Pages gives perfect sense to me nkoth: hi, can someone explain to me what is the best way to insert js at various locations? I mean: in the head, or at the top of body, or at the bottom of body.
I could manually insert in templates but was hoping for a more consistent way like the stuff in headerlib but that seems to insert only in the head? chealer: luciash: sure, I just disagree that the possibility of page creation being non-obvious in "Pages" is an argument to have "List pages" instead.
hi nkoth
luciash: I don't think so. as I wrote, for example, Quizzes work differently, it's normal that they use List Quizzes luciash: chealer: it was mainly rollback of the previous not that much better change to "Pages" chealer: nkoth: there's a field to enter JavaScript. it insert it at the end.
the field inserts the JavaScript at the end. luciash: it's just a list of pages anyway with only now new glued tab of possibility to create a wiki page, nothing more chealer: luciash: yes, but I disagree with the rollback nkoth: I'm trying to add facebook integration stufff and the js tht comes with it is very fussy as to where it goes to
I'm trying to make this a feature luciash: chealer: you are alone still :)
chealer: so far
:) chealer: luciash: it *is* more. as I wrote, for admins, it's pretty much an Admin pages. it allows page creation, deletion, modification, etc. luciash: i disagree, it has nothing to do with admin chealer: luciash: well, I'm not really alone, Pascal St-Jean obviously agreed with the change. luciash: other lists allow the same in Action column
but he didn't disagree with the rollback (yet) chealer: luciash: so how are other Admin screens different from "Pages"? luciash: and sylvie is with me so it is still 2:1 ;) chealer: luciash: well, did you talk with Pascal? luciash: what "Pages" ? :-p chealer: luciash: "Pages" -> tiki-list_pages.php luciash: admin screens you mean like Admin > Banners or Admin > Profiles ? chealer: luciash: the similar admin screens for objects, say "Admin Quizzes", "Admin Surveys", etc. luciash: chealer: if you argue that "Wiki" > "Pages" is better, then please change all the others to "File Galleries" > "Galleries", "Blogs" > "Blogs", "Quizzes" > "Quizzes", etc.
thank you chealer: luciash: sorry, so how are other Admin screens different from "Pages", for admins?
luciash: as I wrote, the situation for most features is different, they have both a "plain user/list" interface and an administrative interface.
luciash: anyway, if you didn't talk with Pascal, I would assume it's 2:2 luciash: or why don't you move the "Pages" under "Admin" and name it "Admin Wiki Pages"... i don't see "most" have it... there's no Admin Blogs under Admin, etc.
only some old outdated features have the special "lists" under Admin chealer: luciash: Admin is for global feature management, not per-object management. CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27125 10/trunk/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [FIX] Newsletter : more fix for correct CSS and <base> chealer: luciash: I think Blogs is broken. It has "Create/Edit Blog", but you can't edit a blog there AFAICS.
luciash: well maybe not for the list you expanded, but if you look at the "etc.", I think in general we have List and Admin pages. luciash: chealer: ok, just talked to pascal and he told me that he would actually prefer that what i did, so... ;) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Visible Message Notification - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37176 ***: Louis-martin has joined #tikiwiki luciash: and yes, Admin screens are different from "Pages", and you can't edit the whole Wiki there either, only the pages objects
as in any other "List *"
i really don't see a reason why this list is so special as you say
nevermind, it's getting nowhere, you can disagree on the list and if there will be more people having major disagreement with what i did, feel free to rollback but i think it's not worth of so much hassle -: luciash puts a disclaimer: no translation strings were harmed during the commit ;) ***: danielgauthier has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)
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luciash: what do you mean? which part can't you edit? luciash: chealer: sorry ? he said he is not against the change i made
chealer: i don't understand what you mean with the editing CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27126 10/branches/4.x/templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl: [bp/r 24242][fix] when editing file galeries, the list of possible parent galeries did not display the names of the galeries in the drop down list. (thx: gadget+misnyo) sylvieg: dammit I commit in 4 not proposed chealer: luciash: OK. I didn't understand what you meant by "he would actually prefer that what i did"
luciash: that was in reply to "and yes, Admin screens are different from "Pages", and you can't edit the whole Wiki there either, only the pages objects"
so which part of the Wiki can't be edited? luciash: i mean like the admin part ***: franck has quit IRC (Quit: franck) chealer: luciash: the admin part can't be edited? ***: xavi has joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27128 10/branches/proposals/4.x/templates/edit_file_gallery.tpl: [bp/r 24242][fix] when editing file galeries, the list of possible parent galeries did not display the names of the galeries in the drop down list. (thx: gadget+misnyo) luciash: setting which wiki page should be default, tiles on or off, perms, structures, ... it's the same list type page as tiki-galleries.php, tiki-list_blogs.php, tiki-sheets.php or tiki-list_articles.php
chealer: nothing special or admin special for the tiki-listpages.php chealer: luciash: all of that (except perhaps structures) is stuff you'd expect to do in the admin panel, it's the same thing for other features. luciash: so i don't understand why it should deserve removing the "List" part from "List Pages"
yes, ok, so why you think it should confuse with different item name in the menu, when it's the same thing ?
well, whatever you reply, i don't have time to continue this valuable discussion now :) gotta do something else yet... ;) bbl ***: yoni has joined #tikiwiki
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iirc chealer: luciash: yes, but upgraders will get "Pages" CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27130 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Kaltura: More exception handling & button label text change ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
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Cain has quit IRC (Quit: Sayaunara ^_^) sylvieg: merge are hard now :-( ***: Cain` has joined #tikiwiki yoni: if it interest someone got error on db update while installing a 5x from scratch "Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/sites/dtc/shocksite.com/subdomains/www/5.x/lib/tikilib.php on line 5381
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/sites/dtc/shocksite.com/subdomains/www/5.x/lib/tikilib.php on line 5381
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/sites/dtc/shocksite.com/subdomains/www/5.x/lib/tikilib.php on line 5381" jonnyb: sounds familiar yoni, i fixed something like that recently
no - it was a different one
have you flushed your cache? yoni: i have svn a new 5.x and even done a svn update, it was 1mn ago :) ***: Cain` is now known as Cain yoni: the url was new too jonnyb: it's in plugin_alias_store - are you using plugin aliases? xavi: sylvieg, did you remember the print indexed feature? yoni: Mmm... not that i know the db is from a 5beta downloaded from tw and i don;t recall activating something like that... by default ? xavi: I?m using 4.2 (the production site with my students), aiming to export their whole work in one single html, with legal numbering yoni: the db is 4/6 days old sylvieg: bbl school pickup xavi: When I enable print indexed, the titles of pages get a correlative numbering (great!). CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27131 10/trunk/ (39 files in 14 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27081 to 27130 xavi: ok, see you sylvieg: ^^ please check tiki-list_kaltura_entries.php templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl after this merge xavi: anyway, I was half way the description of the issue.... I finish here for completeness... jonnyb: thanks sylvieg xavi: subtitles of pages had numbering inside, but those numbers didn't get the prefix of the correlative number at the page name
whenever we want to produce a new .odt / odf out of doc.tw.o/Documentation , we would need something like this to avoid redoing the numbering in the 2000 pages by hand....
This time, I only have 100 pages with my students work, but I noticed that this part of the re-numbering either doesn't work, or it's not coded. ***: amette has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) xavi: And the other oddity I noticed related to printing structures (in the same site with 4.2) is related to the output from trackerlist in pages when printed within a whole structure. marclaporte: I took profiles.tikiwiki.org offline for 30 min coaboa_: Hi Xavi. I have a pdf (1650 Pages) which only contains the documentation content. till some work to do with formatting etc but available and up to date xavi: If you print the structure in a single go as a whole, trackerlist bits are empty. Instead, if you select the whole set of pages from the structure, and print them all (using the other tab from multiple print), then the content from trackerlist sections in pages is full with the content they should have
:-) hi coaboa_ , you've done hard work, then!
what did you do with the numbering?
Correlative legal Numbering of headings, I mean luciash: chealer: whoever put it in the upgrade script, it wasn't good idea xavi: coaboa_: "only contains documentation" ?
what do you mean by "only"? coaboa_: the numbering I hvae to ad still but thats not too bad... The index is functional and you can jump towards the content.
No haeder footer etc... xavi: ok :-) ***: coaboa_ is now known as coaboa
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coaboa_ is now known as coaboa xavi: you can get the previous odt as template (header, footer, jump back to initial toc, etc.)
plus keyword index at the end luciash: chealer: can it be safely deleted (the upgrade sql file) from schemas ? chealer: luciash: it's always best to keep old and new installs as identical as possible luciash: sure chealer: luciash: yes, the sql file was not release yet
luciash: yes, the sql file was not released yet luciash: okay, thanks for pointing it out coaboa: you can take a look here: http://aevermann.com/files/TikiDoc_as_of_May_12th.pdf - Still some days of additional work to go. CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27132 10/branches/5.x/installer/schema/20100115_main_menu_wiki_listpages_name_change_tiki.sql: remove reverted unreleased change from upgrades coaboa: xavi: so question is what to do with tabed version specific content (now I only display the latest) and should i strip stub pagess? xavi: coaboa: that's one of "THE" questions (version specific content) coaboa: and where can i get a list of page (lets say next month) of content changed between 12th of May to eg. 12.th of June 2010 xavi: ricks99 (not here right now) and me would like that users have the ability to chose which version to show at printing time (one version, or all, for instance)
but we can't code that ourselves
coaboa: you could use the tiki calendar, and list changes (page names) by dates
of using action log... coaboa: oki sylvieg: back xavi: sylvieg, I wrote the issue above (related to print indexed and trackerlist content + correlative legal numbering inside pages)
s/of using/or using
or coaboa, maybe using Wiki rss (I think it lists changes specifically)
however, imho, the best is to produce some output at a given date, and that's it: format it as an odt document, and pdf then, for that date (before a major release, etc.)
and coaboa, about stub pages: I don't have "the" answer, but I would suggest to keep them as they are, so that the reader realizes that the documentation is not finished, and he/she can contribute to those pages also if he/she knows about that feature, etc
but of course, personal opinion coaboa: odt don't work. OO Crashed while importing. So I set it up as HTML single pages and converted them to pdf using InDesign xavi: mmm, interesting.... ***: uSlacker has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) xavi: oh, I see, Adobe InDesign..
I wish there was some free software tool to do the job... ***: uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki coaboa: Unfortunetaly I had to use it as scribus does not import multipage pdf conviniently xavi: mmmm, I see. A pity OOo crasehs so much with real documents (200 pages or so) coaboa: yes. it not that common to work in that scale luciash: hmm, flushing cache takes weirdly long now :-/ xavi: tiki5 indigestion ? sylvieg: xavi: whjat do you mean ? if you have a structure 1.a 1.1a 2.b you do not have 1.1 in the print? xavi: sylvieg, mmm. If you have page 1, with several numbered headings inside (from 1 to 5), and page 2, with several numbered headings inside (from 1 to 5).... I expected the print indexed to produce 1.1, 1.2. 1.3, 1.4. 1.5, and 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4. 2.5.
Does it make sense for you?
and the print indexed doesn't work at all (it seems) when you select pages from structure (2nd tab), instead of whole structure (1st tab) at multiple print.
in Tiki4.2 at least sylvieg: the code to re-number is not in' ***: amette has joined #tikiwiki xavi: ok
coaboa, nice, and you updated the Tiki5 page recently! :-) (and 24Mb+ already!)
What I see so far with something like this (without legal numbering in headings) is what I felt in 2007 when I did the former document: without the legal numbering throught the whole pdf, you get lost very quickly and you don't know what you are reading.... after passing a few tens of pages... CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27133 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: czech language: some more translated xavi: that's why correlative legal numbering is so important, imho, even if might be ugly to see so many numbers in all headings coaboa: yes. I'm on that. Will take some days as I only can use spare time ;-) Will spend a cover etc too... xavi: we need some clear structure for such a huge handbook, and some easy way to navigate back and forward
brave guy, taking such a task... sylvieg: maketoc works only for non mumber headers :-( xavi: I still remember those days of "go, turtle go"
sylvieg: does it? -: xavi checks at his production site sylvieg: no only for ! not # ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) coaboa: I'll have pdf bookmarks with page titles (chapters & Numbers to come) for navigating too. After adding the Keywords it should "navigable" enough xavi: sylvieg, maketoc works for ! and !# type of headings: http://iesbarcelona.org/esso350/tiki-index.php?page=Coffee+Community+Project&structure=2010a+Spring+Actions
and toc also: http://iesbarcelona.org/esso350/2010%20Spring
coaboa, great! luciash: do we remove or keep "Development Notice" in admin pages before release ? xavi: luciash, there is a setting for that, isn't it? Then I would say to disable the box luciash: sylvieg: i found problem with trackerlist &tr_user param in URL, it used to display the value in page when reffered as {$tr_user} in template but now returns "Array" instead... any idea what changed ?
xavi: i am not sure where xavi: I've seen it somewhere... -: xavi checks in a tiki something site luciash: sylvieg: also when i have trackerlist and tracker plugin on the same page now no matter if i have param view=user or not, it displays last submitted tracker item in the form then and changing it changes the item in the trackerlist instead of adding a new one... any idea what is necessary now to put as param in the tracker plugin ?
xavi: :) sylvieg: xavi: trackerlist in multi print is ok for me luciash: xavi: it's that "This search feature and the perspectives GUI need http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences. If you search for something and it's not appearing, please help improve keywords/descriptions. " for fresh install it is still there xavi: luci: yes, I think so
sylvieg: there are two way of printing a structure from tiki-print_pages.php
(1) tiki-print_pages.php#content1 : print whole structure. doesn't include trackerlist to me in 4.2 ( http://iesbarcelona.org/esso350/tiki-print_pages.php#content1 )
(2) tiki-print_pages.php#content2 : select individual pages or in sets (they can also be all pages from a structure): this way the trackerlist content gests included to me in 4.2 ( http://iesbarcelona.org/esso350/tiki-print_pages.php#content2 )
and legal numbering for page titles works in (1) but not in (2) to me
unless I did something wring at some point... sylvieg: (2) is normal there is no numbering xavi: s/wring/wrong
(2) Yes, I didn't expect it there either, but since it was the only way for me to get the trackerlist content.... I throught, "maybe I'm wrong and I get the numbering there too" :-) ***: danielgauthier has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) sylvieg: there is a problem somewhere else xavi: ok sylvieg: which structure ion ies xavi: "2010a Spring Actions" sylvieg: perhaps it is a perm problem CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27134 10/branches/5.x/tiki-list_kaltura_entries.php: [FIX] Kaltura: Use the for loop var (you were right sept7) ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: nite nite) sylvieg: xavi - if you can send me a ies database I can not reproduce xavi: ok, I will, thanks
that will help whenever we want to make further html's out of doc.tw.o/Documentation in the future -: sylvieg gives up with the multiprint of doc .. the code needs a complete rewrite to fit in memory - will be bettre to have a ptach for that xavi: mmm, I can sponsor some money from my pocket, you know, sylvieg, for the brave coder who takes the initiative to make this rewrite to fit in memory...
I guess that if others can sponsor some other amount of money, we could even pay a portion for the professional time invested in such rewrite ***: amette has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)
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amette_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) sylvieg: xavi: Soory I did not get the connection esso =ies xavi: ?
"connection"? sylvieg: I did not remember esso is the name of the database xavi: ah, yes :-)
Anyway, the new db dump is already sent ***: yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki
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your trackerlists have a filter on {{page}} but in print_structure {{page}} is not valued ***: FrankP_german has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27135 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]muti print: must setup option page too for TRACKERLIST(filter={{page}})
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27136 10/branches/proposals/4.x/tiki-print_multi_pages.php: [bp/r 27135][FIX]muti print: must setup option page too for TRACKERLIST(filter={{page}}) xavi: ok, well done, sylvieg!
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the javascript is not loaded..
oops sorry javascript are here marclaporte: I hope we nuke it for 6
let's ripi it out of trunk and see where people scream :-) ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27137 10/branches/5.x/ (db/tiki-db-pdo.php templates/database-connection-error.tpl): [FIX]forgotten file for 27107 ***: yohomer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
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WSOD marclaporte: oh
tks, will check now