very strange
server is fine: top - 17:01:23 up 180 days,  4:24,  3 users,  load average: 0.33, 0.37, 0.32
http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/ is same setup
was info svn-uped recently?
was running fine earlier today
yes, I'll rollback to 27050
weird stuff in error logs: [Wed May 12 16:05:58 2010] [error] [client 77.66.214.80] File does not exist: /home/infotw/public_html/404.shtml, referer: info.tikiwiki.org/plugins/editors/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/tinybrowser/tinybrowser.php?type=file&folder=
?
I am stumped
mose is helping me
I will do the petit poucet technique
put small stones on the road
stones being small die("muhaha");
so don't worry if info.tw.o laughter suddenly
go mose go :-)
seems it's a smarty problem
the die outputs just before $smarty->display, and don't just after
reboot the server and it will fix it
on tiki-index.php
oh it's a binboze server ?
lol
no!
Linux
I know, that was a jokle
reboot is the fastest way to fiix a binboze problem
let me know if I should as for a reboot :-)
gimme 5 more minutes
btw nice to see you around mose
I'm always around :)
just sometimes silent for years
reboot always fix it - in my own experience
need more time to understsnd..
mose: wanna come to TikiFest6 in October? :-)
New York!!
well, going to usa is troublesome
hmm, you should try the reboot
I may dive back if it don't fix
request has been sent to hosting co
the page is not black, please view page source in your browser and you will see the following code: div id="Cia_TikiWiki" style="display:block;" So PHP and web service work fine. The problem is somewhere in your application.
that was the answer from my host
hmmm
a module issue?
try removing the modules via the db?
perhaps, but maybe mose thought of that?
im sure
bbl
eh, that worked
wow
deleting Cia_TikiWiki did the trick (unless it's a coincidence)
eh
I can reproduce!
mose: you still have that 5 minutes? :-)
http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-admin_modules.php -> assigning Cia_TikiWiki causes blank page
it's a simple RSS feed
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r27138 10/trunk/ (17 files in 8 dirs): [FIX] fix some unused method parameters (seen in quelity.tikiwiki.org)
hi 
polom
I have an olf tw where the fckeditor had a toolbar with change font ... but in tw5 it is gone. :-(
hi sylvieg - in 5 it uses the toolbar admin properly (it was only pretending in 4.x)
so the default probably need looking at
 New Forum Posts: Migrating from tikiwiki, DB question - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37184
in fact the toolbar configuration is gone :-(
oh?
on the admin menu?
it is no more there tiki-admin.php?page=wysiwyg
for me in between tiki logs and users
you mean the text box (in 3.x)?
toolbars admin's been there since 4
the preference wysiwyg_toolbar is gone
yes
lunchtime - bbl
the feature was lost in 20677
ok need to go to toolbar.. but all the customisation people have done .. do they need to redo manually?
morning all
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27139 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-wysiwyg.tpl: [ENH]wysiwyg: add a button to toolbar to help people coming from 3 where the toolbar setting was there
hi
Can i ask if i can ask if i can ask a question? :P
anyways, i am trying to make people on my tiki setup be able to use blogs.
Altough it seems permissions are set correct way, the users are denied access to the "http://zamsz.fenr.org/tiki-blog_post.php"
So my question is, what are the requirements to access this page?
tiki-blog_post.php
tiki_p_blog_post and there is also the notion of public blg
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27140 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-andreas08_tiki_5.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for theme updated for Tiki 5.
excuse my poor english ,but you need to explain what you meant here: "the notion of public blg"
Ok, a question. If i have a group - ABC and a category XYZ And i set tiki_p_blog_post for category XYZ and group ABC to true, should that suffice?
I would expect the user to be able to access the posting page and be able to choose all blogs belonging to category XYZ for posting.
good morning Marc
what the fuck am i doing wrong -.-
are the blog public?
Do you mean this: "Allow other user to post in this blog" ? If so, then yes.
Weisser : proper category perms is still relatively new. Perhaps it's not yet deployed there
marclaporte, is what you're trying to tell me that i might be unable to achieve my goals?
no
how many blogs do you have?
almost 60
wow!
awsome!
rofl :D
hi RavenC!
@Weisser: What is your Tiki version?
i forgot, point me - where can i find out?
Admin: General
marclaporte, it's game based community, blogs are used as a communication channels. each "ambasador" is assigned to 1 or more blogs and files reports weekly
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27141 10/mods/trunk/themes/greenblog_tiki_5/styles/greenblog/ (7 files): [KIL] Sample content images not really part of theme.
at least this is how it's supposed to work once i setup everything :F with your help :F
Weisser: try object perms on a few blogs, and see if that works
4.2
is the version
well, i suppose i can use object perms yes
OK. Does the *group* have all the necessary blog perms? (list, view, read, post, etc)?
ricks99, i set read access to blogs for regisstered
globally
and post access to each group for corresponding category
whatever i do, only the admin is able to access the posting page
Ok. for the *category* prm, does REgistered groupo have read access?
5-Alive Theme on tw.o - new logo aligned perfectly on info....  clipping "groupware" in the others....
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27142 10/mods/trunk/themes/greenblog_tiki_5/styles/greenblog/index.php: [NEW] Index file to prevent directory browsing.
ricks99, no, Registered has a global read acces. Is the lack of read access for category actually a restriction that overrides the global settingsa?
Yes. Perms are inhereited *downward* but override *upward*
using IE8, FF, Chrome
@Weisser clearer explanation at http://twbasics.keycontent.org/How+Permissions+Work
Ok, i'll try to understand the system once again, with that in mind.
But i got a feeling this means i will have to set some things several times. :F
Some sort of "don't override" medium option between allow and deny, could be a good idea. What'd you think?
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27143 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-greenblog_tiki_5.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for theme updated for Tiki 5.
If u categorize an object, and want to give Registered users access to that category, you have set the correct category perm
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27144 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-candiiclouds_tiki_5.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for theme updated for Tiki 5.
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r27145 10/trunk/ (17 files in 8 dirs): [FIX] missing paramters: rollback r27138
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27146 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-kubrick_tiki_5.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for theme updated for Tiki 5.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27147 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: notice
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27148 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH]wysiwyg: possibility to define fonts
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27149 10/mods/trunk/themes/milkyway_tiki_5/templates/styles/milkyway/tiki-site_header_top.tpl: [NEW] To include tiki-site_header_login.tpl.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r27150 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-milkyway_tiki_5.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for theme updated for Tiki 5.
polom
hi chibaguy 
hi jonnyb
and everybody
RavenC: yep. Also at profiles.tw.o and branding tw.o the logos are positioned ok.
I thought luci adjusted fivealive.css for this, so maybe not all the sites are updated?
bbl
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27151 10/branches/5.x/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Kaltura: Tidied up entry lists (and add Media Id to info popup)
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27152 10/trunk/templates/setup_fckeditor.tpl: [FIX]wysiwyg: fix 27148
polom
hello
hi all
error plugin disabled http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Profile_Bug_tracker_bug_page
FrankP_german: ?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27153 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (2 files): [FIX] Kaltura: Refresh page after upload and show files uploaded (JS fix)
on this page not show the Plugins tracker ans trackerlist
@FrankP_german: looks like trackers are ddisabled on profiles.tw.o?
Hi everybody!
I'd like to know the option to use the same menu as the admin menu provided. I searched menu all around. But obviously there is a lot of 'menu' mentions in pannels.
ricks99 : yes; the page linked on this page http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Bug_Tracker
-.-
i was trying to delete blogs
to try building things from a scratch again
it says " CSRF detected"
FrankP_german: it's fine, it's profile include page, not necessary to have the plugin enabled on profiles.tw.o
i don't know how your detection system works, but being already in a bad mood since the morning, this works like hurting your big toe
i am extremely frustrated :(
@weisser u can turn of detection very easily
pls see docs
dont get me wrong, i appreciate all the work you put into tiki :/ it seems i am having a bad day today
luciash : then the source should be displayed instead of error
or added a picture
i've been wondering... would it be very hard to script myself a small system of permissions? cause it could be less time consuming than understanding and using the one you have :F
i think that simply using the existing perms (which will do exactly what you want) will be much easier and fastre than writing some custom patch. just my $0.02 USD
easier... maybe... faster - no way
cause tell me if im wrong - if i want to make a "public" category, so that anything belonging to it will be visible to anonymous (while uncategorized things are not)
ok. all u have to do is give the corrct perm to the group.
i need to copy all the rest of permissions for all the other groups
right? or wrong?
or should i make registered inheirt anonymous?
no. just put into 1 group, then inherit
oh ok
have you read all the docs, tutorials, etc. on perms?
lots of good stuff that fully explains what ur trying todo
no, quite obviously i wasnt expecting that a script for website will require several weeks of education
last i checked, intutive design was a principle
:/
tutorials and beginners guides go a long way.
tiki is much more than a script
it is a complete cms
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27154 10/branches/5.x/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Prevent PHP error (parse module params failing somehow)
investing 30mins or so in tutorial/beginner's guides/etc. will help ALOT in the long run
:F
i doubt 30 mins will be enough here, but ok
sorry for wasting your time
really
not at all
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27155 10/branches/5.x/lib/ (7 files in 6 dirs): [FIX] Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated - Preparing RC1
hi changi - you starting the packaging again? How long do we have? (i'd like to squeeze one more kaltura fix in before 5.0 if possible)
sure its possible
i'm in checking process
thanks - let me know if i can help
hi, in the current version of tikiwiki, can I define if I want images to be stored in the database or in the file system?
yes benjamin_ , in admin/filegalleries
cool, this is true for all files? Cause I want to make shure that the db-size is as small as possible.
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27156 10/branches/5.x/lib/core/lib/Multilingual/Aligner/UpdateSentences.php: [FIX] Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated - Preparing RC1
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27157 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files): [FIX] Kaltura: Use server_name/http_host for Kaltura "user" identifier, so all entries are shared between all users (with suitable perms)
jonnyb: just let me know we i can start
r27157 was my last one, so you're good to go! (sorry, i should have said - thanks for waiting)
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27158 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.0RC1
Joinpk
is it possible to have different template for different sections?
i dont want left menu on inner pages
how to turn them off on inner pages?
yes, u can custmize left/right cols by seciton
use the "layout per section" opton
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27159 10/branches/5.x/lang/ (44 files in 44 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 5.0RC1
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27160 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.0RC1
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27161 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.0RC1
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27162 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 5.0RC1
ok thanks
easy questions are my favorites :)
of course, i cannot do an RC build. thats why we have u :-)
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27163 10/tags/5.0RC1/: [REL] Tagging release
ready changi!
thanks Ricks
its working
changi: rock on !
go changi go!
polom luciash - a question about profiles... have you got your head around including profiles in each other? (or anyone else)
i have a main profile, that has one include (which i do with a "dependancy"" block
but the include needs an object reference from the main one, and this seems to cause a circular reference...
for those who have time, just test http://stats.tikiwiki.org/dl/ and test the RC1
i just need 3 confirmation :)
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27164 10/trunk/lib/test/bootstrap.php: [FIX] quick fix to get test work
ok changi - i'm on the bz2
thx jonnyb 
they're all still called tikiwiki-5.0 etc - shouldn't it be just tiki these days? (low priority imho)
bz2 one seems fine
no one else around? i'll have a go at the gz
i've tested gz and zip
it works
jonnyb: yes you're right for the name, don't know if i have to rename it
aren't they made by a script?
yes buildincrement.php
gz one seems fine (clean install this time)
(clean as in database)
should i test an installation too?
sure - the zip one's not done yet
oki give me half an hour
i'm getting an odd error applying a profile - it keeps saying i'm logged out
might be local weirdness...
i'll rebuild the archive with tiki name :)
renaming would be quicker ;) but i suppose it's a better test of the script
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27165 10/branches/5.x/doc/devtools/tikirelease.sh: [FIX] New name
i've got the source, i've just to recreate the archive
polom
polom Jyhem 
I can test the new renamed gz :-)
ok, this "logged out when running profile" thing only happens in safari - firefox is ok
but i'm also running several other tikis in that safari, so i think it's probably just localhost cookie confusion
Is anyone familiar with paypal ? I create an account so I can get money sent to me. Does the simple account allow it, or can one only make payments with a simple account ?
Jyhem: always joke
Jyhem: it works with simple
i think (in uk anyway) you need to link a bank account to it
in france too
Does "link a bank account" require the bank's cooperation, or do I only need to give bank info to Paypal ?
no, the bank doesn't need to do anything
i seem to remember they send two tiny payments to it and you have to confirm the amount to verify
no bank's cooperation, you just need to wait a few das
days
perfect, an extended week-end is perfect for waiting :-)
not sure you will have the payement during the WE
:)
No hurry. So far, the longest part was finding an available name for the associated gmail account :-)
where is the zip arch. for RC1? cant find it on sourceforge
http://stats.tikiwiki.org/dl/
thx
coaboa_: under testing and renaming
is there a list of operations I should verify with the installed version? (test script)
I just tested .gz with FF, in French. Worked flawlesslyrnFound an untranslated sentence: Unknown database 'tikiwiki5RC1'rnAlso, it does not say anywhere that admin's first password is admin...
Ouch: we may have a problem :-(
:O 
Jyhem: i've just test it in french and don't have any problem
the installer makes me change the admin password from 'admin' (invisibly pre-filled), and THEN I end up on the HomePage which instructs me to connect as admin with password admin. Even though I *am* logged in as admin and i already changed the admin password
I'm trying to use it in "first user" mode
so a line saying "if you haven't already" would fix?
No, I guess the first 2 steps of the HomePage instructions are obsolete
well, something might have prevented them changing the pw, so it's sometimes useful
Since one is forced through changing the admin password in the installation process, no ?
either way not a blocker imho
No, not a blocker, of course
:)
s/t//
:)
jyhem: i agree with you, the homepage should maybe be change
checking the bz2
zip and gz are already tested
bz2 seems fine
I see it's already been modified :)
Or is it a translation issue ? Only wrong in french ? 
Aha !! The homepage text is better in english than in french !
Only 3 steps in english, and it is correctly assumed that the admin password was changed
yes, english seems ok
so tar.gz is fine (FF, english)
re
sorry i was busy with somethin' else here
RC1 Install on Ubuntu 10.04 using zip arch using german language work fine!
jonnyb: i have tried but i don't know if it succeeded to have profile with dependency
used FF 3.6.3
luciash: yes, it's tricky - i think i'm going round in circles!
changi: yes, i think you have still rename manually the file from tikiwiki to tiki (seems the script wasn't modified still)
jonnyb: yeah, had that one too (circular reference) but not with dependent profile
i think i've fixed profilelib (locally so far) to handle circular refs, but other weirdness is occurring
luciash: i've modified the script
changi: good
you should think of using "best language" for initial content as the german install looks weak compared with the english one.. This will affect especialy users which are new to tikiwiki.
jonnyb: basically, you need no ref in the other one when the first one is still not installed or something like that
open question: from when should we create the proposal/5.x ? 
when you release 5.0 i guess
changi: i've been meaning to do a mail to the other quality team members to ask just that
with 4.1 we just left 4.x "open" for fixes (only) which made it all quite a bit easier
jonnyb: no jonnyb, i'm not reading in your mind 
:)
it depends how long the merging works for (and all those "quality" fixes make it harder)
hi people. I'm setting up a page for my band. Using tikiwiki the first time. I have an understanding problem with the search:
hi Nils^  - welcome!
I enabled search for anonymous users, which works. I have a Wiki which is only for bandmembers (a special group) but 5 or 6 pages are available anonymous. This part works, too, with per-page permission overwrite
but those 5 or 6 pages cannot be searched as anonymous. It works as admin.
tikiwki version is 4.2
I could work around by simply using articles for the public information, but I would like to see what I can do with the wiki, because my bandmembers are used to editing wikis.
so the perms on the pages work ok, but search isn't respecting them? (sounds feasible - could be a bug)
tiki 5 is happening now - could you try an upgrade?
jonnyb: yes, I set perm on one page to "all allowed for anonymous" to check.
Hi all :)
jonnyb: Is this a wise decision? Anything available for 4 is there for 5, too? 
yes, and lots more new stuff
My tiki suddendly stop working with an error "Got error 28 from storage engine" got any idea what it is?
sorry - gottago for a little while - back later (sounds nasty Louis-martin)
And phpmyadmin said : Your PHP MySQL library version 5.0.32 differs from your MySQL server version 5.1.39. This may cause unpredictable behavior.
might be this "segmentation fault" php 5.3 thing but i haven't had that one
bbl
jonnyb: sylvie already gives up on the merges ;)
Phew...its was only a server reboot from my host...Im happy now :)
additionaly upgraded a smal site from beta2 to rc1- no problems- using Konqueror 4.4.2
still from zip
will work tomorrow with a site setup for a customer using rc1 and tell you how it works out. good job guys!
Louis-martin: :)
yay! well done changi!! :D
changi: good work, thx
wasn't that by Iggy Pop?
good night, have to go. 
jonnyb: maybe 
changi:  Sorry for the delay.  5.0rc1 new install on windows server 2008R2.  Smooth as butter!  all good here
RavenC: thx
if I wanted to upgrade my 5.0beta site, would I just copy the new files over my current directory ?  Obviously nuking the DB lock and running install.
Or would that overwrite the changes made (prefs, perms, etc.) ?
RavenC: normally you just need to override old files with the new one, and run the installer to upgrade
jonnyb: any idea why plugin edit icons do not appear (or the switch icon in top) ?
jonnyb: the feature is on
no - they were there yesterday (for me)
jonnyb: can it be that it is TRACKER plugin included in wiki page via PrettyTracker template ?
oh yes, icons shouldn't be there as it falls over quite badly
polom chealer 
jonnyb: ok, my fault then, tks
but in the wiki topbar the icon to switch them off/on was kiled ?
hi jonnyb, all
hi chealer
it's a pref (in admin/wiki)
jonnyb: ok, i see
changi: Marc started a related thread during the last week on tikiwiki-devel
chealer: ok
changi: "Soft mode code review (was Re: [Tikiwiki-devel] [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[26976] branches/5.x)"
2010-05-10 13:36
chealer: ok so people continue to commit in branches/5.x
chealer: will wait until QT say something about that.
jonnyb: :)
changi: maybe there will be RC2 soon ? :-p
good night changi 
luciash: maybe
nn
luciash: doesn't your SNiPTT profile need feature_wiki_argvariable?
very interesting, just realized when i specify fields for Tracker wikiplugin it behaves differently and as intended (when included in a PrettyTracker template)
jonnyb: i just going to try that
:)
thought about it for the tr_user url param
i did a load of fixes to get round the "double plugin" issue
yes, i was copying you :)
i will give it a try with {{tr_user}} now
{$tr_user} returns "Array" in Tiki 5
(while it worked in 3 or 4)
strange
but if argvariables will work i will be happy i think
Changi:  Thanks for the info.  I will try an "upgrade" tomorrow from beta 1 to RC1
Have a nice evening everyone
jonnyb: good, it seems usable (it works)
changi|afc: that would be the idea if there's a soft mode, yes
hi, anyone here have any experience exporting wiki pages to word or open office?
maybe exporting html is best and then to use a proprietary tool
upg maletdiction.com beta 1 to RC1 Succes! :)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27166 10/trunk/ (71 files in 58 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27130 to 27165
cool
nkoth: hi, no idea, someone created nice PDF from doc.tw.o recently, maybe can help ?
luciash: who was it?
i am not sure, maybe changi or coaboa
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27167 10/trunk/ (lib/images/imagick_old.php modsadm.php): [FIX] Call-time pass-by-reference calls are prohibited, spotted by quality.
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27168 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] some Javascript warning removal, from quality.tikiwiki.org
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27169 10/branches/5.x/tiki-read_article.php: [FIX]article: the author can see a non yet published article
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27170 10/trunk/lib/ (9 files in 7 dirs): [FIX] Fix some Javascript warnings spotted by quality