#tikiwiki 2010-05-20,Thu

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ricks99	@mlaporte: link fixed @franck: where do u see this? all links appear to be working for me	[01:20]
franck	ricks99: it is working now	[01:22]
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ricks99	k. possibly a glitch during svn-uping. tx	[01:22]
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danp2	I know I am gonna sound like a n00b asking this, but I get a could not find driver error after a new install of 4.2 I'm gonna have to run in 5 minutes, so instead of bugging you, I'll check into it tomorrow.	[03:54]
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CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03bubi * r27249 10/branches/5.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] TrackerID: #3183 Tree View of File Gallery now not only shows the 1st Level of Galleries on older PHP versions tikiwiki: 03bubi * r27250 10/branches/5.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] TrackerID: #3183 Tree View of File Gallery now not only shows the 1st Level of Galleries on older PHP versions (for _getGelleryChildrenIdsTree(), too)	[05:50]
	tikiwiki: 03bubi * r27251 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] TrackerID: #3183 Tree View of File Gallery now not only shows the 1st Level of Galleries on older PHP versions	[06:02]
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pwz	Q: how to post a mail to devel's mailing list? (how to join the list)	[10:23]
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luciash	pwz: hi, hold on	[10:35]
pwz	ok need to ask a question about ntlm in tw, i guess that's the best place to ask...?	[10:35]
luciash	https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel subscribe there no idea what is ntlm	[10:37]
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pwz	single sign on feature thnx for the link	[10:53]
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martijn85	hello in wysiwyg editor is there a way to use {maketoc} in this editor?	[11:19]
ricks99	what tiki version? can usually just put it directly in {maketoc} works for me in 5.0	[11:30]
martijn85	4.2 here I see like the text "summary" but no headings beneath	[11:32]
ricks99	i thik wysiwyg is marked as 'experimental' in 4.2.... might be flaky	[11:33]
martijn85	hmm	[11:35]
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martijn85	I can't change to the normal editor in this wikipage it's a document including 50 pictures and wysiwyg code	[11:36]
ricks99	when u put {maketo} and save it, you just get the "Table of contesnts" heading, but no bulleted list of the child head levels?	[11:37]
martijn85	tha'ts correct ah hold on I changed heading from wysiwyg to using !! this is working	[11:38]
ricks99	:-)	[11:40]
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danp2	Ok, my question from last night was about the could not find driver error after a new 4.2 install. You can see the error on the homepage of warpspeedirc.com, and I don't think there is pdo enabled.	[12:03]
ricks99	see release notes	[12:05]
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pwz	btw. if anyone who is reading the dev's list is present -- i think the utf-8 bug is present in 3.5 also	[12:11]
danp2	Thank You. I thought I had read those, but I guess I didn't. It's all fixed. :)	[12:13]
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RavenC	hello everyone	[12:17]
luciash	hi RavenC	[12:19]
danp2	One last question. What config file would I enable content templates in?	[12:19]
ricks99	hi RavenC	[12:20]
luciash	danp2: file ? just go to Admin Home > Wiki and enable content templates	[12:20]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27252 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]fgal: rollback 26250: fix the find in simple list fgals: do not remember the case fixed with 26250: be prepared to have another bug	[12:20]
ricks99	@danp2: no config files. just go to the Admin page for the feature that u want to use content templates	[12:20]
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ricks99	damn... luciash has faster fingers then i do :-)	[12:21]
danp2	Ok, Thanks. Sorry, tikiwiki is a little different from most other wikis and cmses, so it is a lot for a newbie to take in.	[12:23]
ricks99	Newbie? check out the beginner's guide: <shameless plug> http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shameless plug>	[12:23]
danp2	bookmarked, and will read when I am fully awake. I am gonna get the person who woke me up later.	[12:25]
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luciash	heh	[12:31]
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yonixxxxx	May be someone has an idea about it, I would like to find on everypage a variable that contain the language used for tw. With jonnyb help we found that $pageLang contain the info BUT... it is page dependand and not language selected dependant. the idea is to have a header code for each and different language	[12:34]
ricks99	@yonixxxx: i use $prefs.language that's how i switch the site logo on "Smarties" to be language-specific	[12:37]
yonixxxxx	i check with the tiki debugger on my homepage sprint $prefs.language... not found	[12:39]
luciash	now ricks99 was faster ;)	[12:39]
ricks99	when using the switch_lang module to change the site language (not page lang) the entire site header changes, too @luciash: because i finished cup of cofee #1 :-)	[12:39]
luciash	that is why, i still have more than half ;)	[12:40]
yonixxxxx	Ah... ok... i don;t use the switch_lang module.	[12:40]
changi	changi have a stupid question	[12:41]
luciash	$prefs.language is smarty one, $prefs['language'] might be php if that matters iirc changi: enjoy :)	[12:41]
changi	is it possible to make some versioning in filegal, like store more than 1 version of 1 document	[12:42]
luciash	changi: with webdav yes, so i think yes	[12:42]
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luciash	you have to enable it somewhere though in filegals admin maybe :)	[12:43]
changi	if you find it juste let me know, i was looking for it all the morning oups : s/juste/just/g	[12:43]
luciash	wait for xavi, he surely knows ah, hes here, hola xavi :)	[12:43]
changi	xavi : ping !!!!	[12:44]
xavi	pong back from the kitchen :) changi: read http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Webdav it's documented there.... xavi is glad that sept_7 shared his knowledge about their implementation of webdav	[12:45]
luciash	xavi: OT, are there any major benefits why should i upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? luciash just can't decide	[12:47]
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xavi	mmm, if your machine is working fine with 9.10... I wouldn't be in a hurry in my case, there are some bugs with nvidia (+suspend, resume, etc) and the network applet (for the macbookpro), I upgraded, and it 's not fixed there either...	[12:50]
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xavi	bbl (lunch)	[12:51]
luciash	xavi: thanks	[12:53]
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luciash	xavi: enjoy your dogfood ;)	[12:54]
mlaporte	xavi: for TikiFest page names, I have started using Tiki version	[13:04]
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mlaporte	TikiFest NewYork6 to work on Tiki6	[13:04]
ricks99	ricks99 wishes mlaporte used spaces in wiki page names for readability :)	[13:05]
mlaporte	:-) I am doing that more & more, but I also try to follow the convention	[13:05]
ricks99	HavingPageNameLikeThisIsSoVery20thCentury	[13:06]
mlaporte	if you can't be good, try to be consistent :-)	[13:06]
RavenC	RavenC reallylikesthewaytheylook ;)	[13:06]
mlaporte	I hope we can get rid of CamelCase on tikiwiki.org one day, but it will break so many links	[13:06]
ricks99	next, you'll want to limit all page names to 8.3 naming convention :) y. notice that the page names on info.tw.o are much more (IMHO) user friendly	[13:06]
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mlaporte	hahahah	[13:11]
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luciash	for best SEO results, they should look like /tikifest-new-york-6 anyway hard to keep some consistent convention without automated machine translation :-p	[13:51]
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foucault_	hey all, who here is working to get tikiwiki packaged up with IIS7 for webdeploy/app gallery/MakeWebNotWar	[14:02]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3189 - - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/4. ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3189	[14:03]
foucault_	i'm working on statusnet's one,	[14:03]
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chealer	hi foucault_ foucault_: I will be working on that, hopefully soon	[14:04]
foucault_	hey, we should collaborate, I'd love to have someone to complain with :D	[14:05]
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martijn85	hello	[14:06]
foucault_	what kind of php extensions does tikiwiki need?	[14:06]
martijn85	on my wiki anonymous people can't see pictures	[14:06]
chealer	foucault_: I saw a few mails mentioning statusnet foucault_: just default extensions, php-mysql and PDO foucault_: optionally, gd/imagick	[14:06]
foucault_	yeah all the image stuff seemed to work without gd, i couldnt figure out why what about file uploads?	[14:07]
chealer	foucault_: I don't think that needs an extension.	[14:08]
foucault_	ah we need fileinfo to verify mime type	[14:08]
chealer	foucault_: I'd like to have work done before May 25th but this will be hard	[14:08]
foucault_	setting up a pecl build env, in win7 or whatever it is, not fun.	[14:09]
luciash	martijn85: check your perms	[14:09]
martijn85	yes I have done	[14:09]
luciash	foucault_: tiki needs c_type	[14:10]
foucault_	chealer, on top of it all the wordpress installer, doesnt actually even work i still had to go into the db and create a database for myself. and a user, and grant statements	[14:10]
chealer	foucault_: I'm not familiar with Windows, BTW	[14:10]
martijn85	but what pem. view_fgal_explorer?	[14:10]
foucault_	it wans't one click at all	[14:10]
chealer	my email is chealer@gmail.com	[14:10]
luciash	martijn85: tiki_p_download	[14:11]
chealer	foucault_: so wordpress is on WPI but doesn't install for you?	[14:11]
foucault_	chealer, this is my fisrt month of ever touching win servers it installs, but i had to go into mysql and createdatabase and grant, and all that and feed that into the wordpress webinstaller which, is not one click, and seeing as how thats my "example" to work off. i would sortof rather pull my teeth out, that said, it would be motivating to have someone else, as frustrated as me to talk with :)	[14:11]
martijn85	hmm yes I missed that 1 was looking for view and images thanks :)	[14:13]
foucault_	did you try to look at log files in iis? its absolute madness. click click click, blink blink blink.	[14:13]
luciash	martijn85: np, our fault :-p	[14:14]
chealer	foucault_: strange. our example is ourselves, we have Tiki packages to start from. foucault_: I'm afraid I'm not yet frustrated; that may come when I start working on it :-) foucault_: I don't remember looking at the log files	[14:14]
foucault_	i just meant the xml instruction in the wordpressiis.zip	[14:15]
chealer	foucault_: well, I'll remember you can offer support when I get too frustrated with IIS/WPI :-)	[14:22]
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foucault_	oaky i live in #statusnet	[14:23]
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changi	xavi : thx	[14:36]
xavi	welcome, changi	[14:37]
pascalstjean	luciash: sorry I had to run the other day, I was wondering if you got everything working correctly with your profile? Did you get the blog settings validating?	[14:37]
changi	chealer: about the discussion on UTF-8, i clearly think that it is a blocker :)	[14:38]
luciash	pascalstjean: yes	[14:39]
pascalstjean	luciash: great, good to hear	[14:39]
chealer	changi: I really don't consider anything that's not a regression as a blocker	[14:45]
changi	chealer: but it is a regression chealer: when people will make a migration from a v3 to a v5, they will have some encoding problem bbl	[14:46]
chealer	changi: the question is not simply whether it's a regression, but a regression in Tiki 5 if that's a regression, I think it was a regression in Tiki 4	[14:52]
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changi	to be more precise, it's a regression since http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=20549	[14:58]
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chealer	changi\|afc: that would make it a Tiki 4 regression	[15:01]
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jonnyb	polom	[15:31]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27253 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]fgal: rollback27252/26250: find in mode list and mode admin must use different tables	[15:32]
pascalstjean	does anyone know where the code is located that associates the User to the User_Selector field when creating a User Tracker. I know its got to be somewhere inside wikiplugin_trakcer.php but this plugin is quite the beast to search in. Thanks	[15:33]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: subversion support - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37230	[15:44]
jonnyb	hi pascalstjean - not offhand, usually i look in the DOM inspector for the 'name' or 'id' of the element, then search for that actually, it's probably in a smarty tpl (yuk) - try tracker_field_input.tpl or similar	[15:48]
pascalstjean	jonnyb: thanks, I'll use this as a starting ground	[15:57]
RavenC	newbie question #413,283 - I want to display the contents of an html file on a wiki page. I do not want a link, but the actual contents displayed. For the life of me I cannot figure this out. RavenC feels really dumb right about now	[15:57]
luciash	polom jonnyb	[16:01]
jonnyb	fair question RavenC -how about the {HTML} plugin? polom luciash	[16:01]
luciash	RavenC: you could probably do that via ajax call	[16:02]
RavenC	RavenC feels even more dumb... :/ I have the html plugin enabled... I tried {path/doc.html} (nothing) I tried {html=path/doc.html} (nothing)	[16:04]
jonnyb	no, you'd have to copy and paste the source into the wiki page - maybe that's not what you're after? alternatively check out the {IFRAME} plugin	[16:06]
RavenC	{IFRAME} is exactly what I need! thank you thank you thank you!	[16:11]
ricks99	@RAVEN: IFRAME is it or use {HTML} plugin and use <IFRAME> inside	[16:14]
RavenC	thanks rick. working just as I needed :)	[16:15]
ricks99	any/everything is possible with the HTML plug	[16:16]
RavenC	any way to disable the plugin approval ?	[16:18]
ricks99	there's a perm to automatically approve	[16:19]
RavenC	perfect!! thanks my registered users had more perms than the admin... lol	[16:20]
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RavenC	in IFRAME, does the src= have to be a fqdn ? I was attempting to use a relative path ( ../docs/doc.html)	[16:25]
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CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27254 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]CATEGORY: parameter showlinks	[16:26]
RavenC	got it.. had mis-spelled the path ( /sigh )	[16:28]
jonnyb	hurrah!	[16:30]
RavenC	really cool.	[16:32]
luciash	NotOnReady param for JQ wikiplugin accepts 1\|0 or y\|n ?	[16:44]
	jonnyb: ? just in case you remember otherwise i will dig it from the code nevermind, it was another error in path :)	[16:49]
jonnyb	sorry luciash - it's notonready=true (a bit odd, i know) catches me out every time	[16:54]
luciash	aah, will add to the plugin helper tip	[16:58]
xavi	jonnyb and luciash: rewrite rules for c2c.op.o are back working! :-) I've sent you an email, after vjrj	[17:02]
jonnyb	yay! yup, works	[17:03]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27255 10/branches/5.x/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Toolbars: Custom tools: Filter out accented characters in tool names that cause JS and other problems	[17:03]
jonnyb	nearly got the new payment lib working (just about 7 other things came up!)	[17:04]
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luciash	jonnyb: do you prefer if i add the info or i "standardize" the JQ param to 1\|0 ?	[17:06]
jonnyb	or it is 'y'\|'n' seems silly as it's a boolean - so true\|false is correct just that the rest of tiki uses several other conventions ;)	[17:07]
luciash	yeah, mostly it is param=1\|0 i think	[17:09]
ricks99	have a i18n question with tiki 5..... i am storing my wiki images i n the file gallery...	[17:11]
jonnyb	luciash: after 5.0 is released, i think (if you're really keen)	[17:12]
ricks99	i am adding image descriptions in the "File Description" field for each image (in orer to make the images "searchable".... and then using {img desc="desc" in the wiki page to display the image and its desciption.... how do i "translate" the description? it does not seem as though the "File description" field allows translated text?	[17:12]
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chealer	ricks99: unlikely	[17:33]
ricks99	could it be made into a multilingual field (like we have in trackers)?	[17:33]
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luciash	btw, was it fixed in trackers ? the multilingual option never worked for me there and did display nothing instead of a field	[17:48]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27256 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX] Deprecated split (now preg_split) tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27257 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]CATEGORY: parameter categoryshowlink tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27258 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] fivealive theme: some styling for Development/tikibranch5/doc/devtools/stripcomments.phpshow-errors-button (PHP errors) to enhance usability tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27259 10/branches/5.x/styles/fivealive.css: oops, better margin top value	[17:52]
sylvieg	I worked on mulitlingual fields It show only the field in the current lang - but the inout is for all the langs input	[17:56]
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luciash	sylvieg: ah, thanks for fixing it then luciash wishes fivealive would fit in his netbook 1024x576 screen	[18:06]
sylvieg	there is probably more job to do like which field must be shown when no no value for the current lang or site lang...	[18:08]
luciash	70% of the visible viewport in browser takes the huge header :-[18:09] <luciash> and have the horiz scrollbar down there 10-20px less of the fixed width and it would fit	[18:09]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27260 10/trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27240 to 27259	[18:18]
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xavi	c you all	[18:43]
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ricks99	Google machine translate still breaks lots of stuff :(	[18:44]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27261 10/branches/5.x/tiki-error_simple.php: [FIX] Print UTF-8 text	[18:46]
changi	luciash: did someone test Fivealive with IE 7 ?	[18:55]
luciash	no idea, not me	[18:57]
changi	because it's not very beautifull	[18:59]
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luciash	it was developed by third party + gary	[19:03]
ricks99	@changi: u mean the header stuff? iirc folks are aware. someone posted screenshots with ie7 specific issues	[19:06]
changi	ricks99: yes	[19:09]
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CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27262 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] Add some translation	[20:03]
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	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27263 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [FIX] Set link in remarksbox to the group currently editing and not only Anonymous	[20:19]
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RavenC	have a nice evening everyone	[21:16]
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CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27264 10/trunk/tiki-change_password.php: [FIX]password: a valid username is needed to change password	[21:39]
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	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27265 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]user: give also the option to change password at 'next'/first login when a user already exists and admin changes his password	[22:02]
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sylvieg	good job changi_ on th UTF8 testcase :-)	[22:20]
CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27266 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-listpages.tpl: no change, code indentation only	[22:26]
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	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27267 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]fgal: to be able to search on title and description	[22:48]
luciash	trying to print a tracker item does nothing ??? ah, i was in fullscreen=y mode so it seemed it does nothing	[22:59]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3190 - - Refresh by clicking page title does not work with parameters - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3190	[23:01]
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CIA-27	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27268 10/branches/5.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Several critical fixes for toolbar custom tools: tikiwiki: Don't allow tools with the same name as the standard set (causes mayhem) tikiwiki: Don't allow tools with empty names to be saved (also chaos) and tikiwiki: add a link to remove all custom tools to get rid of malformed tools created before upgrading from 4.x which may be causing JS errors and preventing the page from working	[23:12]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27269 10/branches/5.x/lib/ (setup/prefs.php toolbars/toolbarslib.php): tikiwiki: [RESUSCITATE] Underline tool for non-WYSIWYG mode, executed before Tiki 4 tikiwiki: Thanks Opossum	[23:22]
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