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| Blueman | hi
is there anybody who can help me about configuring TW with right to left languages? | [05:33] |
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| yonixxx | morning | [07:09] |
| changi | yonixxx: yo :
:) | [07:10] |
| yonixxx | coffee ? ;)
is there a kind of digest option for the tw forum ? i mean digest notification (to received once a day forum changes) | [07:11] |
| changi | yonixxx: good questino | [07:17] |
| yonixxx | :) i have some this morning ! | [07:20] |
| changi | yonixxx: another one ? | [07:21] |
| yonixxx | why image gallerie has been moving as feature that should be deleted at some point ? | [07:22] |
| changi | yonixxx: it is replace by filegal !!
yonixxx: more powerfull | [07:22] |
| yonixxx | ah ah ! ok and there is a way to get old data from one to the other ? (i'm working actually to move a tw 1.1 to 5.x with thousand of pictures) | [07:23] |
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| changi | yonixxx: don't know
another one ? | [08:06] |
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| yonixxx | coming... well i'm busy testing this... i'm setting in hurry a website, i should explore this later. | [08:34] |
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| bad connection got to break cu and tks ! ;) | [08:53] | |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Install problem w/ profile Company_Intranet_5x - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37232 | [09:28] |
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| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27271 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [FIX] Repair tag nesting and indentation again | [10:50] |
| tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27272 10/branches/5.x/lib/toolbars/tiki-admin_toolbars.js: [FIX] Don't set view_mode to both as WYSIWYG might be off - first option will automatically be selected, which is fine. | [10:55] | |
| luciash | polom | [10:57] |
| jonnyb | hi luciash
ok, today i've definitely going to get some cclite stuff done! last two days have been drowned in fire-fighting apart from this little commit ;) | [10:57] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27273 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] Custom tools: Add autocomplete for icon field. | [11:01] |
| luciash | jonnyb: cool, what fire-fighting ? | [11:03] |
| jonnyb | well... i've fixed tiki-admin-include-features.tpl twice this week, for instance
yesterday a client's server completely melted down - mysql at 100% CPU, possibly tracker related (but not sure) | [11:04] |
| luciash | luciash shouldn't try to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 ... now has got no wireless connection due to bug in broadcomm module :-/ | [11:04] |
| jonnyb | you know the kind of thing ;) | [11:05] |
| luciash | jonnyb: ouch | [11:05] |
| jonnyb | chealer found some spectacular bugs in the custom toolbars i thought i should sort out pre-5.0
just lots of "stuff" | [11:05] |
| luciash | jonnyb: i have got bad experience with filegals in 5.0 beta regarding performance affecting server load | [11:06] |
| jonnyb | still, it's Friday and sunny, and i'm having the day off (at least) tomorrow! | [11:06] |
| luciash | and 4.x on clients website :-[11:06] <jonnyb> oh really - yes, could be that as well/instead | [11:06] |
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| luciash | oh yeah, first day sunny here again too... seems the vulcano cloud is gone | [11:07] |
| jonnyb | there was nothing in the logs - apache error_log or the mysql one - apart from the restarts (and millions of file not founds) | [11:07] |
| luciash | yeah, filegals is resource hog because of the many sort/action options i think
i had to completely delete the tiki-list_galleries.php script from that 4.x site | [11:07] |
| jonnyb | yes, and it's mostly written in read-only smarty, so really need significant rebuilding (== ain't gonna happen) | [11:08] |
| luciash | otherwise they would need to close their account | [11:08] |
| jonnyb | really - ouch++ | [11:08] |
| luciash | yeah, shared hosting :-/ | [11:09] |
| jonnyb | hmmmm | [11:09] |
| luciash | and the website has almost no traffic even | [11:09] |
| jonnyb | any idea what we need to do about other people's trademarks?
like PayPal | [11:10] |
| luciash | another problem was the minichat module, but that's understandable and not mandatory feature
hmm ? what to do ? | [11:10] |
| jonnyb | does it neeed to be PayPal® or something? (or do we care? :) )
yes, filegals need some fixing - next week maybe (ha ha ha) | [11:11] |
| luciash | ah, i think copy and paste from somewhere else ;)
i think they don't take it as Microsoft does | [11:11] |
| jonnyb | yes, they don't use it everywhere on their site | [11:12] |
| luciash | they even allow the simple (Donate) button without anything trademarked on it | [11:12] |
| jonnyb | saves one more utf-8 encoding error :D | [11:12] |
| luciash | heheh | [11:12] |
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| luciash | bbl | [11:21] |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: could a php script in 4.2 tikiwiki cause memory leakage? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37233 | [11:34] |
| luciash | re
cool, fixed it by installing the proprietary Broadcom STA driver in Ubuntu... sometimes proprietary saves the day ;) | [11:37] |
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| yonixxx | is there a way to have mod-last_articles has been removed ?
sorry :) i can see that mod-last_articles has been removed. Is their an alternative (to diplay the header of one or several articles in a wiki page) ? | [11:46] |
| luciash | yonixxx: ARTICLES plugin | [11:51] |
| yonixxx | checking tks
for info, on the 5.x "ARTICLES plugin" it is not shown in the "plugin help" | [11:52] |
| luciash | yonixxx: must be enabled | [11:53] |
| yonixxx | yonixxx wonder if he is crazy... | [11:54] |
| luciash | yonixxx: Admin > Editing and Plugins | [11:54] |
| yonixxx | funny ! feature article is disable and i can see all the articles modules working (i got the title) only when i click the link i can see it is disabled.
that explain why i couldn't see the plugin. :) | [11:57] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: How to set the default row size of lists - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37235 | [12:04] |
| luciash | yonixxx: seems wysiwyca issue | [12:06] |
| yonixxx | ... i have uncheck wysy...
i mean it was unchecked | [12:06] |
| luciash | >whatis wysiwyca | [12:06] |
| Sug4r | 'wysiwyca' could be what you see is what you can access | [12:06] |
| luciash | i didn't mean wysiwyg | [12:07] |
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| yonixxx | is there a way to move image db from an image gallery to a file gallery ? (i have on website with hundreds of pictures) | [12:23] |
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| RavenC | polom | [12:24] |
| yonixxx | this is not a good day...
when i acces to tiki-galleries.php i got : System error. Le message d'erreur suivant a été renvoyé : The query was : select `sortorder`,`sortdirection` from `tiki_galleries` where `galleryId`=? Valeurs : 1. 45 2. o The built query was likely : select `sortorder`,`sortdirection` from `tiki_galleries` where `galleryId`='45' things is i can get to the galleries themself everything is still here 5.x just svn'ed and db checked svn updated | [12:32] |
| ricks99 | cleared cache? | [12:34] |
| yonixxx | yes... | [12:35] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 out of suggestions, going back into lurker mode | [12:35] |
| yonixxx | hi rick as i moved a 1.11tw to this 5.x it was ok at first.
i created a new gallery then i got this message | [12:36] |
| ricks99 | file gallery or image gallery? | [12:36] |
| yonixxx | image gallery (i'm looking for a way to move it all to file gallery) | [12:37] |
| ricks99 | y, should really use file galleries -- image gals will b deprecated soon | [12:37] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg confirmed there is a bug | [12:39] |
| yonixxx | i want to !!! but i have hundreds of pictures and dozens of galleries built with old material. (pict are in the db). I need to find a way to move it into file gallery | [12:39] |
| sylvieg | yonixxx: can you svn up this one and test | [12:40] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27274 10/branches/5.x/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [FIX]img: db error | [12:40] |
| yonixxx | k
worked :) tks Sylvie ! still moving all this to file gallery is the smart nove. But i need a good idea on this one. | [12:41] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 is sure that sylvieg is working on a super-cool way to transfer all items from image galleries to file galleries
:-) | [12:43] |
| sylvieg | it should not be a difficult script to do ;-)
but I still think there is some missing feature in fgal | [12:44] |
| yonixxx | ... hea... you want me to beg someone ? :D | [12:44] |
| sylvieg | put on the list - but my list is so long.... | [12:50] |
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| yonixxx | Aoutch :) found another one Sylvie:
Accessing to one of the gallery (all the others are ok): select i.`path` ,i.`imageId`,i.`name`,i.`description`,i.`created`, d.`filename`,d.`filesize`,d.`xsize`,d.`ysize`, i.`user`,i.`hits` from `tiki_images` i , `tiki_images_data` d where i.`imageId`=d.`imageId` and i.`galleryId`=? and d.`type`=? order by `created` desc Valeurs : 1. 23 2. o The built query was likely : select i.`path` ,i.`imageId`,i.`name`,i.`description`,i.`created`, d.`filename`,d.`filesize`,d.`xsize`,d.`ysize`, i.`user`,i.`hits` from `tiki_images` i , `tiki_images_data` d where i.`imageId`=d.`imageId` and i.`galleryId`='23' and d.`type`='o' order by `created` desc | [12:59] |
| sylvieg | this one seems ok
what error do you have when you execute the built query in phpmyadmin | [13:03] |
| yonixxx | let ,e check thqt
well... sending : select i.`path` ,i.`imageId`,i.`name`,i.`description`,i.`created`, d.`filename`,d.`filesize`,d.`xsize`,d.`ysize`, i.`user`,i.`hits` from `tiki_images` i , `tiki_images_data` d where i.`imageId`=d.`imageId` and i.`galleryId`='3' and d.`type`='o' order by `created` desc seams ok i got results and no error link is also ok tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=3 | [13:13] |
| Sylvie if it help, it seams now all the galleries are broken. What i was doing is moving a lot galleries one by one into root new created galleries...
must move now, i'll get back in 2h | [13:21] | |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: force posting as anonymous to one particular forum (suggestion box) - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37236 | [13:39] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27275 10/mods/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]Extended temp/.htaccess so that png images from graphs created from PluginR can be successfully loaded in wiki pages | [13:43] |
| tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27276 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/temp/.htaccess: [FIX]Oups, forgot to add the new file, not just the new folder | [13:50] | |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3191 - - Adding NTLM authentication support - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3191 | [14:11] |
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| Sorin | hello
i have some problems with tiki, can anybody assist? | [14:27] |
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| Sorin | !help | [14:28] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . | [14:28] |
| luciash | hi Sorin | [14:28] |
| Sorin | hey
i have some problems with tw 3.5 LTS it says that my db is not updated i tried using all SQL-s in db folder for 3.5 and 4.2 nothing seems to make that error go away | [14:28] |
| luciash | Sorin: go to tiki-install.php and follow the instructions | [14:30] |
| Sorin | link is broken | [14:30] |
| luciash | ? | [14:30] |
| Sorin | You don't have permission to access /tiki-install.php on this server.
do i have to chmod it? | [14:30] |
| luciash | i don't know why you get this, it should be normally accessible if you have no db/lock file | [14:31] |
| Sorin | don't think i have that
i just installed manualy auto did not work i was getting endless loop for install file | [14:31] |
| luciash | if you have shell access you can also try to run: php installer/shell.php
it will update your db | [14:32] |
| Sorin | it
it's running | [14:33] |
| luciash | from command line terminal | [14:33] |
| Sorin | wow it worked
nice | [14:33] |
| luciash | cool | [14:33] |
| Sorin | have some other problem also :)
how can i make the image insertet into an article to be aligned right? | [14:33] |
| luciash | needs param imalign=right | [14:34] |
| Sorin | i tried to put float: right at img and articleimg
where should i put that in my theme css file right? | [14:34] |
| lorinc | in the {img src= imalign=right}
in the wiki | [14:34] |
| ricks99 | @sorin: see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Images | [14:34] |
| Sorin | um, it's a img from the uploader | [14:35] |
| luciash | in the params of inserted img plugin syntax | [14:35] |
| lorinc | dont mess with css there | [14:35] |
| ricks99 | fully explain everything | [14:35] |
| Sorin | oops after updating db articles are gone
:| | [14:35] |
| luciash | ah, you mean the input field of the article editing interface | [14:35] |
| Sorin | yes i think
the first uploading method the one that doesn't thumbnail my img once i select it think it's called own image or something | [14:35] |
| luciash | via CSS .articleimg {float: right !important} should work but you need to check "float text around image" or something like that | [14:37] |
| Sorin | i did that
it is set as important and tried with and without float text around image | [14:37] |
| luciash | can i see online ? | [14:37] |
| Sorin | yes
http://test.hwpedia.eu posting article right now http://test.hwpedia.eu/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1 apparently now the text goes beyond desired width of the textbox | [14:37] |
| luciash | you need set perms to view articles for anonymous
i cannot see it | [14:39] |
| Sorin | oh snap the settings are all gone
tiki_p_read_article but they should work it's on | [14:39] |
| luciash | it just keeps giving me "You are not logged in. Go to Login Page" | [14:40] |
| Sorin | what the hell happend
settings are gone haywire | [14:41] |
| luciash | maybe another perm is needed ? what version did you upgrade from ? | [14:41] |
| Sorin | didn't upgrate anything
i just have 3.5 installed from scratch | [14:42] |
| luciash | eh ? so why you needed update your db ???
weird | [14:42] |
| Sorin | that's the thing
i don't know why it was needed | [14:43] |
| ricks99 | what *exactly* did the message say? | [14:43] |
| Sorin | that i need to update my db
i am running 3.5 with 3.5 SQL used | [14:44] |
| luciash | Sorin: maybe your manual installation didn't populate the db properly, hmmm... | [14:44] |
| Sorin | i did it with phpmyadmin
tried it several times when all failed i tried latest version SQL too and then got back to 3.5 tried the mysqli one too | [14:44] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 didnt think that the db out-of-sync notice was in 3.x... onl 4.x+ | [14:45] |
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| Sorin | 3.5 wizzard install didn't work either
was getting endless loop for installer installer was sending me to index, index was sending me to installer, etc | [14:45] |
| luciash | Sorin: maybe u could try cmd line: mysql -u yourdbuser -p yourdbname < db/tiki.sql | [14:46] |
| ricks99 | that happens if tiki does not have access to write the session info | [14:46] |
| Sorin | ok ill do it now
Your database requires an update to match the current TikiWiki version. Please proceed to the installer. Using Tiki with an incorrect database version usually provoke errors. great now i have the error back Forbidden You don't have permission to access /tiki-install.php on this server. | [14:47] |
| ricks99 | sec mod issue on the server | [14:48] |
| Sorin | ? | [14:48] |
| ricks99 | check the sec_mod rules for your server | [14:49] |
| Sorin | how can i do that? | [14:49] |
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| ricks99 | i mean mod_security | [14:50] |
| Sorin | and how does one do that? | [14:50] |
| ricks99 | see docs: http://modsecurity.org/
will depend on ur server setup and hosting confi | [14:51] |
| Sorin | can't seem to find anything usefull for newbies | [14:53] |
| ricks99 | seems that your server security ineeds to be changed to allow Tiki to execute the tiki-install.php script | [14:53] |
| Sorin | do i do this from mod_security?
or chmod stuff? | [14:54] |
| ricks99 | this is core apahce suff. beyond my scope. sorry | [14:54] |
| Sorin | uhm that's nice
thanks anyway, i think ill bail on the whole tiki script | [14:55] |
| ricks99 | u should contact ur server admin | [14:55] |
| Sorin | it's by far exactly what i need but if i can;t get it to work it's usel;ess
and tell him what? that tikiwiki does not work? | [14:55] |
| ricks99 | tell him to change mod_seucirty rules to allow tiki-install.php | [14:56] |
| Sorin | ill try to contact him now and see what to do | [14:56] |
| marclaporte | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Manual+Installation | [14:57] |
| Sorin | lol did that
the only way installer worked was manualy | [14:58] |
| ricks99 | yes. because ur server rules are not allowing theinstaller to run | [14:58] |
| Sorin | speaking with tech staff now to fix it | [14:58] |
| ricks99 | this is very common issue, has been covered many timesin the forums
should take server admin 1 min to fix | [14:58] |
| Sorin | (9:57:40 AM) Michael Co: One moment.
hope he is fiddeling with the settings :D | [14:59] |
| chealer | polom | [15:03] |
| Sorin | it's whitelisted now
but i still get forbidden | [15:03] |
| ricks99 | need to allow all *.php in ur tiki directory | [15:04] |
| Sorin | oh snap | [15:04] |
| ricks99 | ur server admin should b able to detremin exactly which scripts are bieing executed, and thenwhitelist accordinly
check server logs for details | [15:05] |
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| Sorin | speaking to admins again.. | [15:08] |
| ok so installer is working ricks99 | [15:16] | |
| ricks99 | bbl | [15:19] |
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| Sorin | you back? | [15:28] |
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| does anybody know how to remove the right toolbar (quick edit page, calendar, etc)? | [16:16] | |
| jonnyb | Sorin: admin/look & feel - general | [16:18] |
| ricks99 | y. back now.
@Sorin you might want to review the beinner's guide: http://twbasics.keycontent.org will answer A LOT of your questions | [16:18] |
| Sorin | thanks
was looking at that still hunting a way to align images properly | [16:19] |
| ricks99 | 1. use imgalign attribute
2. enclose i a div 3. use a table | [16:19] |
| Sorin | think it's more simpler than that
what if i put float: right on articleimg in css? | [16:20] |
| ricks99 | sure, but modifying css requirest u to ftp files back and forth
your pick really IMHO, just as easy to use DIV within the aritcle | [16:21] |
| Sorin | doesn't it seem more work to enclose in divs all the time? | [16:21] |
| ricks99 | for example, thats how http://info.tikiwiki.org/article93-Tiki-Community-Members-Active-at-Make-Web-Not-War-2010 was done | [16:21] |
| Sorin | i want to align the "own image" to the right..
so no code for that one in editing the article | [16:22] |
| ricks99 | oh.. will need to modify the tpl then | [16:22] |
| Sorin | yeah
think it's the img atribute in css or articleimage or articleimagefloat :)) | [16:22] |
| ricks99 | no. i *think* the article uses a table | [16:23] |
| Sorin | yes it does | [16:23] |
| ricks99 | been a while, can't remember tho | [16:23] |
| Sorin | but the image is enclosed in a div
with IMG id | [16:23] |
| ricks99 | then you need to re-layout the table to move the image from col1 to col2 | [16:23] |
| Sorin | but if i put float: right wouldn't that work? | [16:24] |
| ricks99 | no. it will only float within the table cell | [16:25] |
| Sorin | uh lol
that's not right woren't divs better than table design? | [16:25] |
| ricks99 | y. but ur using 3.5 (current 5.x is tabless) | [16:26] |
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| Sorin | 5?
thought 4.5 was newest | [16:27] |
| ricks99 | Tiki 5 is in RC. will be released within a few days | [16:27] |
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| ricks99 | ricks99 thinks 4.x is tableless, too... | [16:27] |
| Sorin | so can i upgrade to 5 and still keep my db and settings? | [16:27] |
| ricks99 | y pls see upgrade doc and releaese notes for details | [16:28] |
| Sorin | ok great
i will start theme-editing on 5 hope CSS isn't as tangled as 3.5 | [16:28] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27277 10/branches/5.x/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] "Fatal error: Call to private ToolbarFckOnly::__construct() from context 'Toolbar' in ...lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php on line 258" when putting WYSIWYG-only tool in custom tools tikiwiki: make ToolbarFckOnly->__construct() public | [16:30] |
| Sorin | uhm remembered something
in settings i chose office 2003 WYSIWYG editor but in article editing it's still the standard one i saw the office 2003 one though someware in editing other stuff | [16:31] |
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| Sorin | does anyone know a fix for this? | [16:34] |
| ricks99 | a fix for what? | [16:36] |
| Sorin | in settings i chose office 2003 WYSIWYG editor but in article editing it's still the standard one
i saw the office 2003 one though someware in editing other stuff | [16:39] |
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| ricks99 | wysiwyg is 'experimental' in 3.x
see docs for swithcing wysiwyg toolbar skins | [16:41] |
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| amette | wicked!! Organic Groups are the best thing since the invention of users! :D | [18:02] |
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| RavenC | have a nice weekend everyone | [20:59] |
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| luciash | /join #ubuntu | [22:04] |
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| mlaporte | luciash: ping (can you check mail I just sent to svn list?) thanks!
luciash: I expect to see you in Berlin! We could do a TikiCaravan Start in London, then Paris, then Strasbourg Then, Berlin, and we finish in Prague :-) | [22:09] |
| luciash | mlaporte: hey :)
mlaporte: ok, checkin', hahah | [22:17] |
| mlaporte | :-) | [22:18] |
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| luciash | mlaporte: it depends on the setting on Admin > General ... the before|after etc.
mlaporte: as i said in the commit msg, not perfect, but better than nothing | [22:32] |
| mlaporte | so we deactivate in fresh installs?
but if we deactivate, I think it's gone not just for wiki pages... | [22:34] |
| luciash | let me try on info.tw.o
btw, it's all messed up for long time already i think it has something to do with the breadcrumbs lib mlaporte: now it looks good i have set up the crap to "None" and the other crap to "Most specific first" | [22:36] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Conversor word a wiki - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=37240 | [22:43] |
| luciash | mlaporte: damn, now wiki pages and Admin > General have the browser title as intended, but other features miss the sitetitle again :-p
(all the Admin panel pages have it right actually) but i think it is better than having the sitetitle displayed twice | [22:44] |
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| Bilal | hello everyone - can anyone guide me how to edit - welcome email for new user registration - at our tikiwiki website | [22:53] |
| luciash | hi Bilal, you'll need user tracker and tracker plugin with mail=from|to|msgtemplate param
i think | [22:56] |
| Bilal | okie let me check with that feature
thanks for your help | [22:57] |
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| luciash | or if you just want to modify teh default one, see templates/mail/ folder
Bilal: ^ | [22:57] |
| Bilal | okie | [22:59] |
| luciash | you can copy them to templates/styles/yourtheme/mail/
and it should override the default ones | [22:59] |
| Bilal | yeah thats what i wanted actually - will check out the folders | [23:07] |
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