#tikiwiki 2010-05-28,Fri

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Who	What	When
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jacmoe2 * r27377 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki/wikilib.php: [FIX] Fix for my previous fix: $wikilib::file_to_db: $path, not $file_name	[00:11]
	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27378 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/wiki/wikilib.php tiki-admin_include_wikiatt.php): [FIX] jsut cleaning up for clarity (should not have any effect in practise)	[00:20]
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luciash	sylvieg: hmm, i have set session.cookie_lifetime = 0 so it should be "Lifetime in seconds of cookie or, if 0, until browser is restarted." or is it this ? session.gc_maxlifetime = 1440 or this ? session.cache_expire = 180	[01:14]
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luciash	sylvieg: ah, i think it is caused by the garbage collector one	[01:20]
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	increased it, lets see if it helps	[01:38]
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chealer	luciash: yeah, so the only abnormality would be remember me not working luciash: you were saying you would be disconnected just by closing the browser, right?	[01:55]
luciash	chealer: nope, just by not using Tiki, not closing browser chealer: when i came back and reloaded the page or went to another one, i was logged out chealer: i have session.gc_maxlifetime = 36000 now, lets see if it changes anything	[01:56]
chealer	luciash: yeah, but if you close the browser and reopen, are you still logged in?	[01:57]
luciash	yes	[01:57]
chealer	luciash: hum	[01:57]
luciash	if not more than 1440 seconds i think chealer: i have chosen remember me, that is all right	[01:58]
chealer	luciash: sorry, what do you mean by "if not more than 1440 seconds i think"?	[01:58]
luciash	you should stay logged in even when you come back, nope ? session.gc_maxlifetime = 1440 before i had in my php.ini which is some 23 mins, right ?	[01:58]
chealer	luciash: it seems normal to get logged out after some time, if you don't have remember me yeah, 24	[01:59]
luciash	chealer: i have rememberme, goddamn	[01:59]
chealer	luciash: I know, it's only normal to get logged out after some time if you wouldn't have remember me enabled which suggest your remember me is broken	[02:00]
luciash	that i know	[02:00]
chealer	but if remember me is broken, you should be logged out by closing your browser	[02:01]
luciash	my remember me ? Tiki's remember me ;)	[02:01]
chealer	well, yes, on your install...	[02:01]
luciash	but maybe it has to do with the garbage collector as sylvie pointed out	[02:01]
chealer	luciash: the garbage collector would only explain losing your session. if you have a remember me cookie, you should get a new session automatically	[02:02]
luciash	on ubuntu it checks the session.gc_maxlifetime in php.ini and runs cleaning by cron every time then	[02:02]
chealer	I mean, a new one which is automatically authenticated yes	[02:02]
luciash	it doesn't work with localhost as i say all the time the remember me cookie anybody can try that on their localhost	[02:03]
chealer	luciash: not on your install, but it seems to work in general (at least on mine)	[02:04]
luciash	i wonder no other devs ever tried using remember me on their localhost	[02:04]
chealer	luciash: I use remember me all the time	[02:05]
luciash	ubuntu ?	[02:05]
chealer	luciash: Debian	[02:06]
luciash	that might be the difference	[02:06]
chealer	luciash: I would be very surprised if this would be Ubuntu-specific luciash: does this happen on a fresh install?	[02:07]
luciash	on every install i have on my localhost yes, fresh ones too from my php.ini: " ; This is disabled in the Debian packages, due to the strict permissions ; on /var/lib/php5. Instead of setting this here, see the cronjob at ; /etc/cron.d/php5, which uses the session.gc_maxlifetime setting below."	[02:08]
chealer	luciash: did you say that was related to how you adressed the site, like localhost but not 127.0.0.1?	[02:09]
luciash	i haven't tried extensively 127.0.0.1 if it makes difference... i use localhost all the time	[02:10]
chealer	luciash: I don't see how the garbage collector alone would cause that. remember me is supposed to keep you logged in even if your session expires.	[02:11]
luciash	symlinked /home/luci/Development/tikibranch5 via /var/www/tikibranch5	[02:11]
chealer	hum	[02:11]
luciash	so the url is http://localhost/tikibranch5	[02:12]
chealer	luciash: did you say it was not possible to give us access to your Tiki?	[02:12]
luciash	it's on my laptop, not configured for access via Wi-Fi router from the outside	[02:13]
chealer	luciash: what remember me settings do you have?	[02:14]
luciash	can it be the path ? Host: localhost	[02:14]
chealer	luciash: it could, though fresh installs shouldn't have issues with that	[02:15]
luciash	Path: /tikibranch5/ Secure: No Expires: At End Of Session	[02:15]
chealer	luciash: OK. and what do you have in Login : Administration	[02:16]
luciash	eh, but it is PHPSESSID cookie name i don't see tikiwiki cookie anywhere in my 9 cookies	[02:16]
chealer	luciash: ah luciash: right, that's a problem I have tiki-user-tikiwiki	[02:17]
luciash	so it even wasn't created it seems but i wonder why or how to debug it	[02:18]
chealer	luciash: what do you have in Login : Administration ?	[02:20]
luciash	default settings	[02:20]
chealer	luciash: which are?	[02:21]
luciash	tikiwiki, domain is empty, path is /tikibranch5/	[02:21]
chealer	for Remember me luciash: good	[02:21]
luciash	remember me is user choice	[02:21]
chealer	luciash: you can use Live HTTP Headers to watch Cookie headers go by the Firefox extension otherwise it's hard to help without being able to access the site	[02:22]
luciash	i used Webdeveloper extension Cookies > View cookie information	[02:23]
chealer	luciash: yes but that told you you're missing the remember me cookie, which is the new mystery Tiki asks the browser to create the cookie with a HTTP header	[02:24]
luciash	chealer: i have one cookie named tiki-user-tikiwiki is it the remember me one ?	[02:24]
chealer	luciash: ah luciash: yes, that's the one luciash: so what does that one look like?	[02:26]
luciash	that one seems to expire one year after	[02:27]
chealer	luciash: and what are the other properties?	[02:28]
luciash	ah, grmbl, sorry, it seems the remember me cookie isn't created when i put localhost in the Admin > Login > "Domain" field when i leave it empty, it creates it so i will test now if it will keep me logged in for one year ;) thanks for help i wonder what is the domain field good for ?	[02:32]
chealer	luciash: did you put localhost there in all your installs?	[02:34]
luciash	i am not aware of that let me check trunk nope, on my trunk copy it is empty but remember me is disabled there i will check branches 4	[02:34]
chealer	luciash: I fixed a remember me bug of this kind, but fresh installs should be fine	[02:38]
luciash	ah, ok i think my only fresh is branch 5 right now on my branch4 copy, there seems to be wrong path there is just "/"	[02:39]
chealer	luciash: that seems to remind me something I'm looking for my commits	[02:41]
luciash	that one is not fresh but upgraded iirc	[02:42]
chealer	I hate having to find a commit I did some time ago	[02:45]
luciash	cookie is set, value is b580e5c69958dd0669c77208c7814c0c.1275619418.admin :)	[02:45]
chealer	if it's not on the CIA list it's a pain to find on ohloh	[02:45]
luciash	did the last part after the dot changed in Tiki 5 to the user ID instead ?	[02:45]
chealer	luciash: yes, I did that	[02:46]
luciash	i remember that cookie had 1 there fine	[02:46]
chealer	I found that commit but not the one that fixed the path/domain	[02:46]
luciash	nevermind, i think it should work if i manually set the path to /tikibranch4/, right ?	[02:47]
chealer	yes	[02:47]
luciash	i can see there some cookies from branch 4 has the path correct and some has the path just "/" presumably those cookies will not work properly	[02:48]
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chealer	luciash: yes, I seem to remember that was the bug	[02:48]
luciash_	oups, never hit ctrl + Z in irssi ;) local_tz, phplm_expand and tiki-user-tikiwiki has the path "/"	[02:49]
chealer	found it luciash_: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=25040	[02:51]
luciash_	cool	[02:52]
chealer	luciash_: so trunk/5.x installs past February 11th shouldn't have this issue.	[02:52]
luciash_	ok, i see ... wasn't it backported ?	[02:53]
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chealer	luciash: it was at least backported to 4.x: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=25615	[02:58]
luciash	ah, good then i will see if my remember me will be fine now and let you know ;)	[02:58]
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j0n3	hi! :D	[08:08]
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stix	Hi guys. Can I somehow write the current date on a page? With html or with some kind of variable?	[08:22]
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martijn85	good morning	[08:36]
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martijn85	is there a way to view pdf files in the middle frame of the screen?	[08:39]
j0n3	do you want server date or client date?	[08:39]
stix	j0n3, the server date	[08:39]
j0n3	I've not found any plugin on docuemntation, so you could code a custom plugin...	[08:40]
stix	okay, is there some docu on creating custom plugins? Another question: is there a list of variables to use in pages? I want to show the users real-name and maybe avatar etc.	[08:41]
j0n3	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Create+a+Plugin http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation	[08:45]
stix	cool, it works :)	[08:51]
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luciash	martijn85: HTML plugin + iframe stix: AVATAR plugin	[09:17]
martijn85	ah which can be in 4.2 ?	[09:18]
luciash	martijn85: in iframe src= you link the pdf	[09:18]
stix	luciash, I am now hooked on writing my own plugins in php :) Is there a list of variables I can use within the coding to get data from tiki, such as username, avatar etc?	[09:19]
luciash	stix: i am not sure about that >devtwo Hello+World	[09:20]
Sug4r	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World	[09:20]
luciash	if it helps if you will use tpl for the plugin to display the data, you can check the Smarty blocks, functions and mofifiers available in lib/smarty-tiki/ or learn from other plugins in lib/wiki-plugins/	[09:21]
stix	hmm okay, I will look into that	[09:23]
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martijn85_	I have enabled Iframe and put in the code but firefox crashes... I'll try reboot	[10:00]
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martijn85_	lol Internet Explorer works	[10:06]
luciash	make sure the iframe tag syntax is correct like: {HTML()}<iframe ...></iframe>{HTML}	[10:08]
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martijn85_	the tag= {IFRAME(src=mckensey_km.pdf , name=test , title=test, height=500 , width=600 , align= , frameborder= , marginheight= , marginwidth= , scrolling= )}{IFRAME}	[10:51]
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j0n3	stix, do you still want a plugin for current date?	[11:28]
stix	j0n3, I wrote my own :)	[11:28]
j0n3	ok!	[11:28]
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	Searching from user without permissions shows number of documents found, i.e: a search of a word shows "found 25 pages" even the user can't see any. Should I report as a bug?? That's a problem ie: if a client is looking for pages we refer to other clients. No pages shown or access but "pages found" count...	[12:22]
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sylvieg	j0n3: and if you click on the link do you see the document?	[12:32]
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j0n3	no, no document's... no results but a count if no document's shown it should say "no documents match criteria" or so...	[12:33]
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ricks99	ricks99 at YOW... good visit to ottawa but ready to head home :)	[12:46]
RavenC	pretty area ricks... good weather i hope :)	[12:49]
ricks99	it was hot (hotter than home in NC, USA) was good to finally meet some folks f2f	[12:50]
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stix	Can anyone help me customizing the category plugin? it keeps inserting this headline before listing what is in the category - "Wiki Page: <category-name>" I want to remove that	[13:21]
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RyanS	Just wondering if tiki can blacklist urls from being added to pages? I don't know if wikimatrix is updated recently	[13:30]
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miky_	hello can anyone suggest me tool to create wiki pages	[14:29]
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edwinbennink	I there, is it possible to use categories in order to show/hide menu modules?	[14:37]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03pascalstjean * r27379 10/trunk/tiki-read_article.php: [FIX] Merge from REV 27363 commited from NKoth on Branch 5x. Auto merge did not happen for this line which is important for Article Permissions	[14:41]
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edwinbennink	nevermind	[15:00]
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xavi	polom	[15:08]
	sylvieg ? I've added this line at the end of lib/setup/language.php but no change: $prefs['language'] = $lang = $_SESSION['language'] = $u_info['prefs']['language'] = 'ca'; thanks for the email with tip... any other idea? xavi making a db dump right now	[15:18]
sylvieg	no sorry	[15:19]
xavi	ok... do you mind If I leave the db dump in ourproject.org, like in the uniwiki project space? I'm in a place with small bandwith but I can send from one server to another sylvieg, do you still have your access to ourproject.org server?	[15:20]
sylvieg	and what about changing you dateabse directly with phpMyadmin the site lang and the suer lang and logout clear cache	[15:23]
xavi	:-) murphy's law... phpmyadmin is borked in the server... :-/ they are chaging location of apps, and phpmyadmin is right now out of order	[15:23]
sylvieg	I have probably thje password ... but I have 7 persons at this time trying to have things fix (suppose it is before long week end - trying to leave early)	[15:24]
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sylvieg	do you have ssh access?	[15:25]
xavi	ok, don't worry, then. yes, hold one (pm)	[15:25]
sylvieg	mysql -u user -ppassword base select * from tiki_preferences where name like %lang%;	[15:26]
xavi	ah, ok... thre I go it's 5.0.51a-24+lenny1-log , in case it helps mysql-server version, I mean	[15:26]
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sylvieg	sorry name like '%lang';	[15:36]
xavi	ok	[15:36]
sylvieg	sorry again '%lang%'	[15:36]
xavi	ok language en see pm so what's the mysql command to change en for ca? thks (pm)	[15:37]
	c you all (workshop time)	[15:48]
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sylvieg	does somebody remember which directory must eb created to use the seach in admin pannel	[16:37]
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ricks99	Ack! On of my Tiki sites has died... error logs says: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-zts-20060613/ixed.5.2ts.lin anyone have an idea what the issue is?	[18:45]
sylvieg	ricks99: did you try again to look at the calendar on info my fix is not working?	[18:59]
ricks99	no difference. go to http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-calendar.php then change to list view the module calendar will display as list view :(	[19:00]
sylvieg	yes is did sticky option for the module to fix that	[19:01]
ricks99	i may have misunderstood... did u make the change on info.tw.o already? or do i need to do it?	[19:01]
sylvieg	stange it works when logged in but not as anonymous ... does niot always worked :-( a bug	[19:02]
ricks99	yuck	[19:03]
sylvieg	:-( need to have a look again	[19:04]
ricks99	Tiki has a notinpage parameter for modules, would be great to have notInSection too This way I could isimply turn the Calendar module off, when viewing the main calendar	[19:04]
sylvieg	my setting was a page with the mini table and a list view ..... perhaps the module in the column changes the conf	[19:05]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27380 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]notice: was bugging the article_image.php for instance: the var is define in lib/pear/Date.php but tikilib can be called before Date. So it is useless to do only on one side	[19:14]
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ricks99	@sylvieg: i did a quick css hack to fix the issue... now the calendar module will not appear when viewing the calendar page not perfect fix, but "good enough"	[19:32]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27381 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] Some french trad	[20:10]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27382 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefs/server.php: [FIX]admin general pannel: fix 26628: seems that not all the php has the class DateTime	[20:22]
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sylvieg	rick - I think I found the problem	[21:21]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27383 10/branches/5.x/modules/mod-func-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: wrong documentation - a module in column must set viewlist to table (and not calendar) to be displayed always as table	[21:21]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27384 10/branches/5.x/modules/mod-func-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: wrong documentation - a module in column must set viewlist to table (and not calendar) to be displayed always as table	[21:23]
sylvieg	ricks99: btw the css trick is not working for me	[21:27]
ricks99	theres something wrong w/ the css minify i think...	[21:27]
sylvieg	perhaps you have to clear the cache	[21:28]
ricks99	i did, and it works the first time, look @ the custom css i added on Admin: look & feel	[21:28]
sylvieg	aha	[21:28]
ricks99	it should be working	[21:28]
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sylvieg	are you sure mid is afected css are still loaded at the beginning I will go for a rule like .tiki-calendar div.box-Calendar	[21:31]
ricks99	i just check to see if tiki-calendar is mid and if so, i set the box-calendar display:none	[21:32]
sylvieg	yes	[21:32]
ricks99	i think it has to do with the templates or css being cached?	[21:33]
sylvieg	yeh you are probably right the scc are cached but the .tiki-calendar contexts will work	[21:33]
ricks99	let me try 1 more thing...	[21:34]
sylvieg	my calendar module on my local with the parameters viewlist=table works fine I should have not missed utp with the description	[21:35]
ricks99	and if you go to tiki-calendar and change the view to list? does the module stay in table?	[21:39]
sylvieg	yes the parameter is more important taht the urlp param than url perhaps it is not intuitive ... but it was the only way I found to do ... whatever..	[21:40]
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