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Oli has joined #tikiwiki Oli: Hi all, I have just upgraded to tiki five and it went mostly OK except that search results are not displayed, any ideas? Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Search Results (files/wiki's) - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37411 ***: L0ggar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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L0ggar has joined #tikiwiki luciash: sylvieg: was it you who deleted content on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginTracker ?
sylvieg: if it was you, i don't understand why... by accident ? ***: Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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installer gives following error:
Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiInit::is_writeable() in [removed]choombawebroottikiinstallertiki-installer.php on line 232
any advice? ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away choomba: anybody? ***: timotiCK has left
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ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27564 10/branches/5.x/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [ENH] Profiles: Add allow_one_item_per_user (oneUserItem) to tracker handler (good for user trackers etc) amette: I'm just looking at branding.tw.o and I think that the "Vision" is actually the "Mission" - it is way too specific...
... I'd move it over to be the Mission and put something like:
"Making the world work the wiki way." CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27565 10/trunk/ (. lib/profilelib/installlib.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27535 to 27564 amette: or something like that
Would it be acceptable, if I do that?
( I understand that branding.tw.o is a work in progress.. but I thought I'd ask, as I'm not so sure about the rules there... ;) )
"Making the world work the wiki way." as the Vision, I meant to say luciash: hi bro amette: heya bracho :) luciash: wouldn't it mean "Making the world work the quick way" ? :-p amette: LOL :P
Yeah, that it means - never thought of it this way! :) CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27566 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: notice amette: Or perhaps just "Making stuff work the wiki way."
Be as general as possible in a vision...
... give people space to interprete and associate freely...
... see the first rule - it's a very good example - a good vision is similar in this respect. ***: fabricius has joined #tikiwiki luciash: what about "Do it the wiki way." ?
or Doing it ... fabricius: ?? Tikiwiki|bot: ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] amette: Doing is better, doesn't give a direct command to do something... fabricius: ah sry amette: perhaps I would say "Doing everything the wiki way." fabricius: hello amette: but with the "world" it's more hubris, bigger, unbelievable, feels unreachable - more like a vision - vision as in "looking ahead", "seeing something currently impossible" fabricius: everything is not so good, because it is limiting people to do s.th. in a certain way amette: I'm now moving that shit around... ricks99: @amette: maybe... "Documenation the Wiki Way" amette: ... the current vision definitely is not a vision, but a mission...
... I'm gonna cite standard management books, if need be! :P fabricius: I am looking for an irc client for windows - nice, small, easy, but possible to log my personal chats ... any suggestions? luciash: i agree with hte mission
the amette: luciash: cool ricks99: @fabricius: i love trililan luciash: ricks99: i thought you love your wife ;) ricks99: mission statement: opensource the wiki way?
@luciash: shhhhhhhhhhh :-) luciash: :D amette: luciash: ricks99 : *G* -: ricks99 goes to re-read the current mission/vision statements... and kiss his wife.... luciash: :) fabricius: what´s about " We do it the Tiki Way" ? luciash: hi fabricius amette: I found the shortes possible catchy Vision! :D fabricius: or "Join the Tikinspiration of Life" amette: Wiki Way FTW
;) luciash: wtf is ftw amette: probably need to precise that for non-geeks ;)
oh - probably need to precise that for geeks, too ;P luciash: lol
>whatis ftw Sug4r: Error: No factoid matches that key. amette: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ftw ricks99: Opensource development... the wiki way. amette: we don't only do opensource development...
... we also do community development..
.. brand development... fabricius: ricks99: the tiki way amette: .. anything the wiki way!
fabricius: we call it the wiki way cause we want to refer to the bigger picture fabricius: .-D luciash: *g* amette: :) fabricius: amette: kk, just stepped in anyway ... only looking for a client and heading off ... go to cologne in an hou ***: Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: Tiki: Communities built the wiki way. fabricius: ricks99: its not only communities ricks99: @fabricius: check out trillian. provides irc+multiple im clients all in one amette: yeah ricks99: ok. i give up on vision/mission. :) amette: and it expresses something that you can actually grasp... luciash: i think best was just "The Wiki Way" fabricius: how to describe s.th. in only a few words, that nearlx can do everything amette: ... a vision shouldn't be concrete.
luciash: Yeah, I think too, that that's pretty good!!
it just lacks some goal to reach... fabricius: isn´t it the title, the sublement of that vision? luciash: doing or anything else can bring misleading associations ;) amette: yup, it's difficult :) fabricius: tikiwiki that brought the Wiki Way to an extend, to a maximum of usage and ecperience luciash: we're getting into an "academic discussion" fabricius: "The Wiki Way" opens up everything, but breaks it to the point in the same time. -: luciash is stepping off
amette already did Oli: Sorry for butting in and for repeating myself but I am having a strange issues with a T5 upgrade, everything appears to work except for search that displays no results, all a get is a screen with the leftmost columns displayed inside the central frame, is this a known issue ? fabricius: so any idea for an open source free irc-client? trillian seem not to be open source, but stunning in the integrated protocols - interesting aswell amette: Oli: don't feel sorry for asking - it is a well phrased and decent question! luciash: Oli: i have seen this on dev.tw.o
Oli: this buggy behavior amette: Oli: but I didn't try Tiki5 yet - need to wait for others to reply (ok, luciash just did ;) ) ricks99: @fabricius: will the base trillian is free (not opensource though). if you want opensource, try pidgin ***: Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) Oli: Thanks ... Any ideas what I can try, my tiki is 3600 pages and without search not worth much.... fabricius: oli - hopefuly you did make a dump of your database before upgrading Oli: yes fabricius: and oli - you should test a "dummy-version" of your page before with a subdomain for ex.
so you are not fucking up your productive system right now, I guess? Oli: I am amette: >whatis 3rules Sug4r: '3rules' could be 1. Preserve Environment 2. Commit early, Commit often 3. Make it Optional ( for more info see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules ) fabricius: you are testing dummy or f***up? amette: ^- that's a pretty good Mission! *g*
btw - that's wrong! :O Oli: I have already upgraded the main site, since the dummy run went OK fabricius: I have seen 3 rules before (a couple of days from now) and it´s s.th I can identify with ... mission - identification
oli ah understand ricks99: @Oli: does it happen with all searches? Oli: yes all ricks99: try searching for a term that is knon *not* to exist amette: >learn 3rules as 1. Respect the Environment 2. Commit early, Commit often 3. Make it Optional (for more info see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules ) Sug4r: OK, here we go! fabricius: and the search was running in the dummy? Oli: ricks99: same result ricks99: with no results?
hm. amette: >forget 3rules 1 Sug4r: OK, here we go! amette: >whatis 3rules Sug4r: '3rules' could be 1. Respect the Environment 2. Commit early, Commit often 3. Make it Optional (for more info see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules ) amette: better...
;) ricks99: r u using a custom theme or any TPL changes? custom center column header maybe?
odd... searches seem to be ok on tw.o sites Oli: ricks99 as I described, no right columns, left column inside central frame, I using a custom CSS but changed to defaults with no change in behaviour
http://robol.com/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=the&where=pages&boolean=on&search=Go luciash: ricks99: it is not working on dev.tw.o
ricks99: see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=test
same as Oli
amette: thx for update Oli: actually the right columun is there but well out of frame but no results amette: luciash: :) ricks99: hm... working on info.tw.o luciash: maybe it's not the latest Tiki 5 ricks99: possibly luciash: or there is conflict of the searches in right column with the top one
modules i mean -: amette thinks that "no, the three rules are more like values..." luciash: Oli: do you have any search modules on ?
or just the top search bar ? Oli: no top bar, just a module ricks99: hm... manually constructed URL works just fine: http://robol.com/tiki-searchresults.php?words=foo luciash: words ???
highlight it was
always ricks99: when highlight is off luciash: did it change ?
ah
so highlight seems to be the conflicting param there
hm ricks99: @Oli: in your search admin, do you have referrer highlighting turned on? can you try turning it off? Oli: not on ***: Helene has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: out of ideas Oli: In the main admin panel search is suddenly greyed out, it was highlighted just a few minutes ago ???
and if I try a search via the menu module I get "Request-URI Too Large" chibaguy: Oli: first time I've seen that error with tiki
I just tried in my localhost and no problem (tiki branch 5) luciash: Oli: can you try to enable the top search bar and unassign the search module if it makes any difference ? Oli: there is another error here http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=search+bar&search=Go luciash: chibaguy: do you have module or search bar ? Oli: luciash I am doing that right now chibaguy: luciash, both. luciash: oh
upgraded site or "fresh" chibaguy: upgraded is what I just tried in. luciash: tiki-searchindex.php works for me too
upgraded 5.0 chibaguy: dev.tw.o is strange though.
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=wiki&search=Go ***: fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
ricks99 is now known as ricks99|away chibaguy: page source shows: <div id="tiki-center" class="clearfix content"><div id="col2">
nothing inside #tiki-center, until #col2 starts ?? luciash: Oli: feature_search_fulltext on ?
chibaguy: yep, i have already been looking at it but no idea how to solve Oli: bizarrely enough this got fixed by changing to a simpler search box module
using just the mysql search, the tiki search causes a server error luciash: ah, maybe there is some obsolete module left from older tiki ? Oli: no, I made sure, re initalised, and I only stared using it at 4.1
just looked again in the folders, no older modules in there
Thanks all for your help ***: Oli has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) chibaguy: luciash, on a lighter note, I did a quick html5 'theme' by giving tiki.tpl the html5 doctype, etc. and adding <header> and <nav>, using jqui theme renamed to htmlgo.css. You can see at zukakakina.com, and switch to htmlgo.css. luciash: chibaguy: w00t, great, you're fast :) chibaguy: Also added html5.js for ie support.
well, I was curious how it would go. luciash: and it works ? chibaguy: yep. :-) luciash: no CSS change necessary ? chibaguy: no. I just added a little styling to header and nav to test. luciash: or did you hack lite.css ? chibaguy: no hacking. luciash: wow, that is great ! :) chibaguy: it just works, as far as I can see (briefly looking)
well, this afternoon at the office was pretty slow, so I had time to read up on html5 and do some planning. luciash: fantastic
i am surprised how well it works with litecss chibaguy: I think there's nothing in html5 that affects the basic layout, apparently. luciash: it says the page is rendered in Quirks mode though but seems to work well
is <!DOCTYPE HTML">
really that ?
HTML5 doctype ?
i just wonder about the only one double-quote chibaguy: oops
typo luciash: i see, you kept the columns as divs still
oh, ok :) chibaguy: well, I didn't get down to that yet, but I imagine they should be <aside> luciash: is there no <col> or <column> tag in html5 ? chibaguy: no luciash: ok
r u going to fix the typo ?
so i can test more ? ;) chibaguy: yes, it's fixed. luciash: cool
yeah ! now it renders in standards compliance mode ! chibaguy: oh, ok, great.
I just did the minimum so far. luciash: nice, thanks for sharing
i suppose you send it as reply to the html5 thread on devlist chibaguy: decisions need to be made about how to use the article, heading, section elements, etc. luciash: i suggest chibaguy: yes ***: Helene has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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nkoth has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I wonder if I should commit a theme to branch 5 like this, for collaborating on, or should changes be made directly in the default files, when we do the switch.
really, it's a pretty smooth transition, I'd say. luciash: chibaguy: btw, where do you have zukakakina hosted ? it's pretty fast chibaguy: hostrocket.com
cheap account luciash: thx CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27567 10/mods/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]Params filtered (+ minor typo in a description field fixed). chibaguy: no svn, though.
at least for non-U.S. residents. :-( luciash: not branch 5, trunk i would say, directly, or experimental branch and merge to trunk later chibaguy: ok luciash: because then we don't have to take care of deleting the custom tpl files of the theme again chibaguy: right
so after 5.1, I guess? luciash: you can start now, if you create branches/experimental/html5 from trunk chibaguy: ah, I'm not so how to create a branch, though.
so -> sure luciash: oh ? i thought you were the only one who did it in the past ;) chibaguy: nope, not me. luciash: ask the other devs then maybe if it's good idea :)
and how to chibaguy: ok. luciash: bbl, bye chibaguy: ok see you later. Helene: Just to know if I'm doing everything the right way... I only want to do some changes in the french translations... I'm editing the language.php (properly I guess), saving changes, refresh the browser ... something else to do? sylvieg: clear the cache ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki Helene: done it... nothing's happening luciash: Helene: tiki cache RavenC: polom Helene: well... do we have to clean averything or only the template_c luciash: all is safe Helene: so I can clear everything? luciash: tiki-admin_system.php?do=all Helene: done. It's ok if there's still like 5 files left luciash: y Helene: ok so I cleaned everything, I went on an other page of the tiki, when back immediatly and everything was back in the cache ... normal?
and nothing changed... mmmm ***: Narkster|Desk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) Helene: I have to execute get_strings.php ? ***: RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~)
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ricks99|away has left sylvieg: Helene: no need to excecute get_strings Helene: ok.. I gave up anyway... it's not working... CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27569 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [FIX] Tracker "creator can edit" fields: Sometimes (e.g. tiki-view_tracker_item.php) it uses item.createdBy not item.creator
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tikiwiki: [ENH] Profiles: Groups can now be modified from profiles (so all those "description: Ignored on existing groups" lines in profiles will now not be ignored).
tikiwiki: Allows setting of user tracker for registered, for instance. ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27571 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Profiles admin: Allow raw YAML to be used in the tester box (without the {CODE} tags).
tikiwiki: Also remember input after form submission so it can be re-run. Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware Releases 4.3 and 3.6 LTS - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article96-Tiki-Wiki-CMS-Groupware-Releases-4-3-and-3-6-LTS CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27572 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Roll-back r27569
tikiwiki: Tracker item 'creator' and 'createdBy' are not the same thing always - thanks SylvieG ***: nake has joined #tikiwiki
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