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We selected 'Pacific/Rarotonga' for 'CKT/-10.0/no DST' instead [00:49] *** timotiCK has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [01:00] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [01:25] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [01:26] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27630 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] payment now has an icon [01:34] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27631 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] link to GUI for transitions. Xavi & Rick: try this :-) [01:42] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [01:49] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:53] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:53] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [02:01] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:01] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [02:11] *** nkoth has quit IRC (Quit: nkoth) [02:31] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [02:36] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [02:58] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [03:14] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [03:15] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:15] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [03:49] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [03:51] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:51] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [04:00] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [04:38] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:17] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:24] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:25] *** CIA-64 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:28] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [05:29] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [05:32] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:37] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [05:57] *** CIA-61 has joined #tikiwiki [06:23] *** CIA-61 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:25] *** CIA-13 has joined #tikiwiki [07:22] *** yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [07:23] *** Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki [07:25] *** Wilkins_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:30] *** timotiCK1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [07:32] *** yonixxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:36] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:37] *** sudo^2 has joined #tikiwiki [07:51] hey good people [07:52] what is the significance of option levels in tiki wiki [08:15] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:21] *** benjamin__ has joined #tikiwiki [08:47] *** ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki [09:42] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [10:17] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [11:00] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [11:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [11:19] *** Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki [11:23] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27632 10/trunk/ (11 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27604 to 27625 [11:31] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [12:17] *** ksign has joined #tikiwiki [12:18] *** ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:45] *** ksign has joined #tikiwiki [12:45] *** ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:52] *** ksign has joined #tikiwiki [12:53] *** ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:57] *** Elvin has joined #tikiwiki [13:06] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:06] Newbie; Using Tiki 5; Applied Full Collaborative 5 Profile; Tweaking it; Question: How do you make SubAdmin group add/remove groups? [13:07] Errh; Only need to AdminGroups... Not want to give tiki_p_admin, cos not want them to be able to modify site features, modules, etc. [13:12] Elvin: did you see the groups permissions? [13:14] Explain: When I tried URL to /tiki-admingroups.php with test SubAdmin user; system returns prompt saying I need "tiki_p_admin". [13:18] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27633 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-export_tracker.php): [ENH]tracker: possibility to export the attached files of items [13:19] !help [13:19] >help! [13:19] 'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help someothercommand (1 more message) [13:28] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [13:33] Elvin: sorry, you need tiki_p_admin to create groups [13:34] Elvin: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions&structure=Documentation [13:35] btw I found the big circles very confusing... even wrong so far I understand it [13:36] Thanks for sharing. Would future release, have the functionality to give group admin to subAdmins? Intention: Letting Users (specific) the possibility to manage group and manage sub-projects. [13:36] curretn version can do that already [13:36] This a way, I retain the System level access, and the users (least the superuser level) will have the controls of their destiny... [13:38] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:41] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27634 10/trunk/templates/tiki-export_tracker.tpl: [FIX]missing to 27633 [13:41] ping sylvieg [13:41] <@sylvieg>: Thanks for sharing the document link. just confirmed that SubAdmins does not have possibility by the current perms to only administer groups. As explained, when I try /tiki-admingroups.php, I get "you need tiki_p_admin". I've already got to the point where I can add remove users from groups; but still not admingroups. Thanks!! [13:42] i made the 'circle' permission diagram. do u think it is wrong? how can i correct it? [13:42] (it made sense to me... :-) [13:42] it is the label object that is confusing [13:43] because in fact there is 2 circles - one that is object (like lock...) and the other in local group object perm [13:43] i was thinking that object=wiki page|file|etc. [13:44] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [13:44] so what do you mean with object: check that the user is the rcreator and can edit? [13:45] in this case where do you set the group perms on the object [13:45] Errh... <@sylvieg> THANKS for sharing!! [13:45] the graphic was simply meant to show the relationshp between the 3 types of permissions [13:46] I do not like the label 'object' [13:46] from general to specific (group -> category -> object/item [13:46] item? [13:46] maybe Tiki feature? [13:47] I will split the object circle into 1 - local group object and object [13:47] what is the difference? what is a "local group object"? [13:47] what is object? [13:48] For me, an "object" is a particular "thing" that tiki can create: such as a wiki page, a file gallery, and so on. [13:48] because the perms at this level are also group perm [13:48] you can then apply a object-specific perm [13:49] right, but a wiki-page-specific perm will override the group perm [13:49] object-specific perm - are group perm + kunk like creator.. lock... [13:49] but wiki-page-specific perm is based on group no? [13:49] i can apply a permission to a particular wiki page that will override the group perms [13:49] so why the group appears only on the outside circle? [13:49] what do you call this perm that is applied to the particualr wiki page? [13:50] why.... because group perms are the most general [13:50] local group perm to the object? [13:50] i still dont understand what a "local group" is [13:51] * ricks99 thought the image made sense when he drew it .... :( [13:52] it is confising for me - but I do not know .. perhaps I did not see tiki is the same way ... [13:52] how would u visually show the relationship between the different perms [13:52] a "group" perm controls each wiki page (i.e., the object), but can be overridden on a page-by-page basis, right? [13:52] I will change the label object to show that the object perms are based also on group [13:53] becasue for me the label 'object' represented the perms like 'a creator cans change his page, a locker can cahge his page...) [13:54] a creator can modify his user item.. [13:54] maybe i misuderstand how perms work... on my tiki sites, i can control specific perms for a particular page [13:55] if "Object" was "Wiki page" would it make sense to you? [13:55] I do not think you misunderstand - but the label is so confusing for me [13:55] it will be worst [13:56] because I will thought that 'wiki page' are perms like ' a creator can change his page' [13:56] so where will I find the perm 'this group can see this page'? [13:57] i think you're taking the diagram too literrally [13:58] I do not like the label 'object' only [13:58] because I attach to object the junky perm like 'creator can modify his perm' [13:58] what would you call the "things" that tiki creates (wiki pages, file galleries, image galleries, etc.) [13:58] and I do not think about 'object' as the local object perm that are based on group [13:59] object but a circle is missing [13:59] group(local) perhaps [14:00] but it is not important if I am teh only one to have problem with the terminology [14:01] maybe, but ur an xpert and if an xpert doesnt understand, what hope is there for the rest of us? :-) [14:01] so what do you generically call all the things that tiki can create? i call them "objects" but that may be wrong, apparently [14:02] btw the object settings (like creator can change the page) is the concept that ruins the filtering of perms ;-) [14:02] the image arose from the need to better explain perms. many users didn't understand that you can override group perms on a per-category and/or per-page basis [14:05] "Object permissions: These permissions define the actions that user can take for an individual object. " [14:06] should also reference to group IMHO [14:06] otherwise - I think only about the 'creator can modify his page" [14:11] how would you refer to the perms that I can set on a particular wiki page? in the UI, i think we call the Object Perms? [14:11] Group object perms [14:11] perhaps? [14:11] The UI says "assign permissions to this Object" [14:12] thats why i made the center circle "object" [14:12] so perhaps the external circle must be only Global [14:12] Yes, global perms are applied at to the Group [14:12] Global perms == Group perms [14:13] Maybe "direct object perms" for the center? does that make more sense? [14:13] that's what it is called in the UI [14:13] "No direct perms yet applied to this object" [14:14] * ricks99 needs more coffee, obviously [14:15] *** matteo_servas_it has joined #tikiwiki [14:15] in the page - you see that it is based on group [14:16] "direct" perms are for the particular page (aka "object") [14:16] i have problem whith trakers and file uplod how can help me? [14:17] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [14:18] *** matteo_servas_it has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:18] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:18] *** matteo_servas_it has joined #tikiwiki [14:18] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [14:19] I have problem whith firefox [14:19] I have problem see titki wiki pages using firefox [14:20] everibody is sleeping? [14:20] no but your question is so vague - it is hard to answer [14:21] I have 3 question [14:21] I use tikiwiki for www.servas.it [14:22] I can't see tikiwiki 5.0 using firefox [14:22] using linux [14:23] I see your homepage with firefox [14:23] why [14:23] I can't [14:23] which FF? [14:24] matteo_servas_it: me too. [14:24] I use ubuntu [14:24] check you have teh latest firefox [14:25] yes I updatre ubuntu every week [14:25] 2 dquestion is [14:26] I made some traker for manage users address and billing [14:27] I create one family tracher and one for users one for address one for billing [14:29] if i use more than one item list don't work [14:30] Do you use linux/firefox or windows/firefox ? [14:30] how many tracker did you create? [14:30] i created 4 trakers [14:30] fedora/FF [14:31] and and 2 items in one of the tracker? [14:31] and you add- sorry [14:31] Yes 3 items [14:32] and when you list the tracker, you see only one item? [14:32] check if you tracker has not the option - only one item per user checked [14:33] or check that your pagination is correctly set in admin->look [14:33] ok i check [14:35] *** Elvin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [14:36] no i don't find [14:38] can i post my traker fields? [14:39] it is probably nothing to do with the fileds of each tracker [15:13] UTF/encoding issues with info.tw.o: see http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php?viewcalitemId=14 [15:34] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27635 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [FIX] Object perms: keep referrer value in groups and features forms [15:44] *** ClaraM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:44] *** ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki [15:49] Anyone here uses infinite carousel? [16:02] *** nkoth has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [16:03] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [16:21] *** ClaraM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:25] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [16:27] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27636 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/sections.php: [16:27] tikiwiki: [FIX] Upload file: galleryId gets set to an array in upload files and this was dying in filegal manager due to freetagslib->get_similar returning an array for current object (on some slightly out of date servers) [16:27] tikiwiki: Not fixed for itemkey case as it doesn't seem to be needed. [16:31] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27637 10/third_party/ckeditor/ (99 files in 25 dirs): [16:31] tikiwiki: update ckeditor from 3.2.1 to 3.3.1 [16:31] tikiwiki: remove stylescombo, removed in 3.2.1 [16:41] *** timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] *** timotiCK has left [16:47] *** timotiCK1 has joined #tikiwiki [16:48] *** MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki [16:49] *** timotiCK1 has left [16:59] "Yes, Tiki does that" - that's an awesome slogan! :D [17:00] * amette just stumbled upon it on info.tw.o [17:09] *** sudo^2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [17:09] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27638 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX]socialnetworks: to be able to see the admin page [17:14] *** benjamin__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:21] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27639 10/trunk/lib/ (setup/prefs.php socialnetworkslib.php): notice [17:24] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27640 10/branches/5.x/tiki-admin_categories.php: [17:24] tikiwiki: [ENH] Admin categories: Don't show categorised pages in the "add to cat" section as they're already added. [17:24] tikiwiki: TODO refactor to do same for all object types [17:26] *** benjamin__ has joined #tikiwiki [17:28] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [17:35] I'm getting ROI questions again about our wiki hosting costs. [17:36] Is there a way to find out how often each user accesses a Tiki site? [17:40] TIki log or Action log [17:42] hmmm [17:43] Not sure how to parse the Tiki log. [17:43] I've got a good histogram of "Days Since Last Login" from the user registry. [17:43] That didn't take too much manipulation. [17:44] can use action log. Filter on the specified user [17:45] or just use tiki log. it has the LOGIN even t for each user [17:45] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27641 10/version-control-bridge/tikipush.php: [MOD] Adding identification of reported bugs [17:46] Don't see how to export the Tiki logs. [17:46] I'm not trying to look at a specific user, but rather to quantify activity across the user base. [17:53] We're still using v3.1. Aren't Action Logs a 4.x feature? [17:55] *** lmnt has joined #tikiwiki [17:57] *** benjamin__ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:58] you can export directly from the database [17:58] MacLeod: why not using something like google analytics? [17:59] ...or as sylvieg says, use a real analytics program [18:03] still having a problem with the code plugin [18:04] i created a fresh install, fresh database, of tiki-5, added some code sections to the first screen and same problem, it doesnt seem to close the code box correctly [18:05] This: {CODE()}TEST{CODE} [18:05] are you using this on a wiki page? [18:06] using Wiki editor or WYSIWYG [18:06] yes on a wiki page [18:06] using wiki editor - its the default on a new install [18:06] are you using the Plugin helper, or coding it by hand? [18:07] the CODE plugin works fine on all of my 5.0 sites [18:07] im thinking its either some PHP setting or MYSQL setting? [18:07] since it is still happening on a completely fresh install [18:07] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [18:08] I get a "p~" after the edit plugin graphic [18:09] mysql version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 [18:09] Did u install via FTP or Fantasico [18:09] if FTP are u 100% sure that all the files transferred properly? [18:09] no i installed from the command line [18:12] no sure. i have never seen p~ after the edit plugin graphic [18:13] do u have a URL i can see? [18:13] *** matteo_servas_it has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:13] is php.5.0 enough? [18:14] the p~ is probably a result of ~np~ [18:14] i dont have an external url, its all internal [18:15] Min requirement is php 5.0, recommended is 5.2.1+ [18:16] @lmnt: go to your database and manually edit the page (it is in the tiki_pages table. Add/confirm that the syntax is correct for the code plugin [18:16] {CODE()}foo{CODE} [18:17] sylvieg: have never used google analytics. seem to recall reading something about it a while ago. will check it out, thx. [18:17] *** redflo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:17] sylvieg: yes, as ricks99 says [18:18] proposing to bump the requirement to 5.1 is on my agenda since several months though [18:18] php version: PHP Version 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 [18:19] oops sorry 5.0 was the mysal version [18:19] in the database it is correct [18:20] *** MacLeod has quit IRC () [18:20] shit, doc.tw.o seems to have encoding issues too [18:21] as does info.tw.o [18:24] I added that Tiki 6 will require PHP 5.1. [18:25] if i remove the edit plugin icon option, the "p~" goes away and it looks normal [18:26] then if i add an additional CODE section, I get a "E}" at the end of the second one [18:27] if i add a third CODE section i get a "ODE}" at the end [18:27] also happens in preview [18:30] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [18:30] Not sure. I cannot reproduce.Did the installer report and sql errors? [18:36] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:37] *** Cain has quit IRC (Quit: Sayaunara ^_^) [18:44] lmnt: do you use special chars between the code tag [18:44] or before - like accent... [18:45] I remeber that there is a setting in the server that needs not to be to have strlen, mb_strlen working properly [18:45] *** Cain has joined #tikiwiki [18:51] no special characters, no errors on the install [18:51] same thing with IE or firefox [18:52] write now i am just using: {CODE()}Testing{CODE} [18:53] ive tried a lot of different things - its got to be some kind of server setting or php setting no? [18:54] did you try with another charset in db/local.php [18:55] *** Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [18:55] doc.tw is down [18:55] right now its set at utf8 [18:56] sylvieg: on it [18:56] tracker are not my friend this week [18:56] in db/local.php try to put this line into comment [18:56] changi: thx [19:02] still same thing [19:05] and #client_charset='latin1'; [19:06] sorry $client.. [19:06] another one to try is $api_tiki='adodb'; [19:07] after I am out of ideas... [19:07] but I am pretty sure it is something with encoding ... [19:08] when doc.tw will be back I can find the setting that tiki doesnt like [19:11] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [19:13] *** Fets_ has joined #tikiwiki [19:13] do i need to restart apache after those changes or just refresh the page? [19:13] no [19:13] refresh teh page [19:14] ok latin1 didnt work [19:14] *** Fets_ is now known as FetsCP [19:15] and the adodb didnt work either - the setting thing sounds interesting [19:21] if you acn come back to the default db/local.php [19:23] back [19:25] thx changi [19:25] lmnt: my last clue is to see on your server if you overloaded mb_string [19:26] mbstring.func_overload = 7 will not work very weel with tiki - it must be mbstring.func_overload = 0 [19:29] where is that setting? [19:32] *** FetsCP has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [19:42] FIXED! [19:43] changed mbstring.func_overload = 2 to mbstring.func_overload = 0 and all is well [19:43] Ahah... [19:43] your help is much appreciated [19:43] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27642 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: typo [19:43] how on earth would i have ever figured that out?? lol [19:43] I thought it was only when using special char... [19:44] I took me 2 full days to figure this out [19:44] thanks so much [19:44] tiki coding is not clean - but it needs time to fix that.. [19:45] the plugin uses mb functions and non mb functions together - not good [19:45] i think its a great product, even with the code thing, but now its even better lol [19:46] the problem was for any plugin not only CODE [19:48] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [19:54] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27643 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-export_tracker.php): [FIX]tracker export: the function addEmptyDir does not exist on Debian Etch [20:08] * changi just stopping website for maintenance [20:15] *** Gergely has joined #tikiwiki [20:20] *** lmnt has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [20:33] Hi, a few weeks back I asked how the "Show user's real name instead of login (when possible)" works. I learned then that there is a user preference "realname," which may be added to a user tracker. So I added such a field. However, it still does not work. Any idea how to set it up? [20:33] How do I load a custom jquery in tiki? [20:34] Gergely: perhaps it does not work in all the palces [20:35] does it work in the login box for instance? [20:35] No, I did not see it working in any of the places. [20:35] do you clear the cache? [20:35] No, I shall do it now [20:41] great, it almost works.. [20:42] for the sysadm it works. I just cannot fill in the realname tracker item field for anybody else. so it is empty. therefore it is not replaced, I guess [20:42] should not it replaced even then? [20:43] it shopuld not be empty - you should have the user login at least [20:45] how can I fill it in? it is not to edit in the admin interface, neither in the tracker plugin [20:47] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: TikiWiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org) [20:48] what do you mean fill the real name for each user? [20:50] where is that info stored? what I did is that I created a user pref field in a user tracker with param "realname" [20:51] ... this is how I understood this should happen [20:52] you can at least as an admin modify the real name in user prefs from tiki-adminusers.php [20:52] for the traker field - I never tested [20:53] do you mean "edit user: .. " tab? [20:54] there is only e-mail, passwd, repeat passwd, and a button that send to the user tracker [20:56] I see where the user preferences are. a tiny button [20:57] it only has "new password" and "confirm new passwd" [20:59] even the admin user does not have any input box to show his real name: "System Administrator" [21:01] found under myinfo there. not editable [21:01] User Preferences Screen try to check this option [21:10] sylvieg: thank you. also checked where it works: unfortunately, in 2 of the 3 places I use it does not: trackerlist, pretty tracker, while for the tracker commments it does. I will update the documentation. [21:11] I would give it a try to get it work for those 2. If I did so, where could I submit? [21:13] oh, doc.tikiwiki.org is down [21:19] *** Gergely has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [21:45] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [23:02] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27644 10/branches/5.x/tiki-browse_categories.php: [FIX] Do not show watch icons if feature is off or not logged in [23:04] *** redflo has left [23:37] *** mlaporte has joined #tikiwiki [23:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mlaporte [23:39] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:45] *** timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki