<!-- Some styling for better description lists --><style type='text/css'>dt { font-weight: bold;float: left;display:inline;margin-right: 1em} dd { display:block; margin-left: 2em}</style> ***: chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> Kimberlee has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki <br> rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK1 has joined #tikiwiki timotiCK1: PHP (5.3.2) ERROR (E_WARNING): <br> <u>File</u>: lib/pear/Date/TimeZone.php <br> <u>Line</u>: 7226 <br> <u>Type</u>: date() [function.date]: It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Pacific/Rarotonga' for 'CKT/-10.0/no DST' instead ***: timotiCK has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie <br> conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27630 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] payment now has an icon <br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27631 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] link to GUI for transitions. Xavi & Rick: try this :-) ***: conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) <br> goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki <br> goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) <br> goj|ghost is now known as goj <br> Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping <br> conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki <br> nkoth has quit IRC (Quit: nkoth) <br> conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) <br> conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki <br> rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) <br> Cain` has joined #tikiwiki <br> Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) <br> Cain` is now known as Cain <br> Cain` has joined #tikiwiki <br> Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) <br> Cain` is now known as Cain <br> conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) <br> Lucymoz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <br> chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> CIA-64 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki <br> chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> CIA-61 has joined #tikiwiki <br> CIA-61 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) <br> CIA-13 has joined #tikiwiki <br> yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki <br> Wilkins_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) <br> timotiCK1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) <br> yonixxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) <br> Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki <br> sudo^2 has joined #tikiwiki sudo^2: hey good people <br> what is the significance of option levels in tiki wiki ***: chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> benjamin__ has joined #tikiwiki <br> ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away <br> chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy <br> Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27632 10/trunk/ (11 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27604 to 27625 ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki <br> ksign has joined #tikiwiki <br> ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> ksign has joined #tikiwiki <br> ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> ksign has joined #tikiwiki <br> ksign has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> Elvin has joined #tikiwiki <br> chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Elvin: Newbie; Using Tiki 5; Applied Full Collaborative 5 Profile; Tweaking it; Question: How do you make SubAdmin group add/remove groups? <br> Errh; Only need to AdminGroups... Not want to give tiki_p_admin, cos not want them to be able to modify site features, modules, etc. chealer: <u>Elvin</u>: did you see the groups permissions? Elvin: <u>Explain</u>: When I tried URL to /tiki-admingroups.php with test SubAdmin user; system returns prompt saying I need "tiki_p_admin". CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27633 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-export_tracker.php): [ENH]tracker: possibility to export the attached files of items Elvin: !help <br> >help! Sug4r: 'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help someothercommand (1 more message) ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki chealer: <u>Elvin</u>: sorry, you need tiki_p_admin to create groups sylvieg: <u>Elvin</u>: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions&structure=Documentation <br> btw I found the big circles very confusing... even wrong so far I understand it Elvin: Thanks for sharing. Would future release, have the functionality to give group admin to subAdmins? Intention: Letting Users (specific) the possibility to manage group and manage sub-projects. sylvieg: curretn version can do that already Elvin: This a way, I retain the System level access, and the users (least the superuser level) will have the controls of their destiny... ***: uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27634 10/trunk/templates/tiki-export_tracker.tpl: [FIX]missing to 27633 ricks99: ping sylvieg Elvin: <@sylvieg>: Thanks for sharing the document link. <chealer> just confirmed that SubAdmins does not have possibility by the current perms to only administer groups. As explained, when I try /tiki-admingroups.php, I get "you need tiki_p_admin". I've already got to the point where I can add remove users from groups; but still not admingroups. Thanks!! ricks99: i made the 'circle' permission diagram. do u think it is wrong? how can i correct it? <br> (it made sense to me... :-) sylvieg: it is the label object that is confusing <br> because in fact there is 2 circles - one that is object (like lock...) and the other in local group object perm ricks99: i was thinking that object=wiki page|file|etc. ***: uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: so what do you mean with object: check that the user is the rcreator and can edit? <br> in this case where do you set the group perms on the object Elvin: Errh... <chealer> <@sylvieg> THANKS for sharing!! ricks99: the graphic was simply meant to show the relationshp between the 3 types of permissions sylvieg: I do not like the label 'object' ricks99: from general to specific (group -> category -> object/item <br> item? <br> maybe Tiki feature? sylvieg: I will split the object circle into 1 - local group object and object ricks99: what is the difference? what is a "local group object"? sylvieg: what is object? ricks99: For me, an "object" is a particular "thing" that tiki can create: such as a wiki page, a file gallery, and so on. sylvieg: because the perms at this level are also group perm ricks99: you can then apply a object-specific perm <br> right, but a wiki-page-specific perm will override the group perm sylvieg: object-specific perm - are group perm + kunk like creator.. lock... <br> but wiki-page-specific perm is based on group no? ricks99: i can apply a permission to a particular wiki page that will override the group perms sylvieg: so why the group appears only on the outside circle? ricks99: what do you call this perm that is applied to the particualr wiki page? <br> why.... because group perms are the most general sylvieg: local group perm to the object? ricks99: i still dont understand what a "local group" is -: ricks99 thought the image made sense when he drew it .... :( sylvieg: it is confising for me - but I do not know .. perhaps I did not see tiki is the same way ... ricks99: how would u visually show the relationship between the different perms <br> a "group" perm controls each wiki page (i.e., the object), but can be overridden on a page-by-page basis, right? sylvieg: I will change the label object to show that the object perms are based also on group <br> becasue for me the label 'object' represented the perms like 'a creator cans change his page, a locker can cahge his page...) <br> a creator can modify his user item.. ricks99: maybe i misuderstand how perms work... on my tiki sites, i can control specific perms for a particular page <br> if "Object" was "Wiki page" would it make sense to you? sylvieg: I do not think you misunderstand - but the label is so confusing for me <br> it will be worst <br> because I will thought that 'wiki page' are perms like ' a creator can change his page' <br> so where will I find the perm 'this group can see this page'? ricks99: i think you're taking the diagram too literrally sylvieg: I do not like the label 'object' only <br> because I attach to object the junky perm like 'creator can modify his perm' ricks99: what would you call the "things" that tiki creates (wiki pages, file galleries, image galleries, etc.) sylvieg: and I do not think about 'object' as the local object perm that are based on group <br> object but a circle is missing <br> group(local) perhaps <br> but it is not important if I am teh only one to have problem with the terminology ricks99: maybe, but ur an xpert and if an xpert doesnt understand, what hope is there for the rest of us? :-) <br> so what do you generically call all the things that tiki can create? i call them "objects" but that may be wrong, apparently sylvieg: btw the object settings (like creator can change the page) is the concept that ruins the filtering of perms ;-) ricks99: the image arose from the need to better explain perms. many users didn't understand that you can override group perms on a per-category and/or per-page basis sylvieg: "Object permissions: These permissions define the actions that user can take for an individual object. " <br> should also reference to group IMHO <br> otherwise - I think only about the 'creator can modify his page" ricks99: how would you refer to the perms that I can set on a particular wiki page? in the UI, i think we call the Object Perms? sylvieg: Group object perms <br> perhaps? ricks99: The UI says "assign permissions to this Object" <br> thats why i made the center circle "object" sylvieg: so perhaps the external circle must be only Global ricks99: Yes, global perms are applied at to the Group <br> Global perms == Group perms <br> Maybe "direct object perms" for the center? does that make more sense? <br> that's what it is called in the UI <br> "No direct perms yet applied to this object" -: ricks99 needs more coffee, obviously ***: matteo_servas_it has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: in the page - you see that it is based on group ricks99: "direct" perms are for the particular page (aka "object") matteo_servas_it: i have problem whith trakers and file uplod how can help me? ***: Cain` has joined #tikiwiki <br> matteo_servas_it has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) <br> matteo_servas_it has joined #tikiwiki <br> Cain` is now known as Cain matteo_servas_it: I have problem whith firefox <br> I have problem see titki wiki pages using firefox <br> everibody is sleeping? sylvieg: no but your question is so vague - it is hard to answer matteo_servas_it: I have 3 question <br> I use tikiwiki for www.servas.it <br> I can't see tikiwiki 5.0 using firefox <br> using linux sylvieg: I see your homepage with firefox matteo_servas_it: why <br> I can't sylvieg: which FF? changi: <u>matteo_servas_it</u>: me too. matteo_servas_it: I use ubuntu sylvieg: check you have teh latest firefox matteo_servas_it: yes I updatre ubuntu every week <br> 2 dquestion is <br> I made some traker for manage users address and billing <br> I create one family tracher and one for users one for address one for billing <br> if i use more than one item list don't work <br> Do you use linux/firefox or windows/firefox ? sylvieg: how many tracker did you create? matteo_servas_it: i created 4 trakers sylvieg: fedora/FF <br> and and 2 items in one of the tracker? <br> and you add- sorry matteo_servas_it: Yes 3 items sylvieg: and when you list the tracker, you see only one item? <br> check if you tracker has not the option - only one item per user checked <br> or check that your pagination is correctly set in admin->look matteo_servas_it: ok i check ***: Elvin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) matteo_servas_it: no i don't find <br> can i post my traker fields? sylvieg: it is probably nothing to do with the fileds of each tracker ricks99: UTF/encoding issues with info.tw.o: see http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php?viewcalitemId=14 CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27635 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [FIX] Object perms: keep referrer value in groups and features forms ***: ClaraM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki nkoth: Anyone here uses infinite carousel? ***: nkoth has quit IRC (*.net *.split) <br> nkoth has joined #tikiwiki <br> ClaraM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27636 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/sections.php: <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Upload file: galleryId gets set to an array in upload files and this was dying in filegal manager due to freetagslib->get_similar returning an array for current object (on some slightly out of date servers) <br> tikiwiki: Not fixed for itemkey case as it doesn't seem to be needed. <br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27637 10/third_party/ckeditor/ (99 files in 25 dirs): <br> tikiwiki: update ckeditor from 3.2.1 to 3.3.1 <br> tikiwiki: remove stylescombo, removed in 3.2.1 ***: timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK has left <br> timotiCK1 has joined #tikiwiki <br> MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK1 has left amette: "Yes, Tiki does that" - that's an awesome slogan! :D -: amette just stumbled upon it on info.tw.o ***: sudo^2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27638 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX]socialnetworks: to be able to see the admin page ***: benjamin__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27639 10/trunk/lib/ (setup/prefs.php socialnetworkslib.php): notice <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27640 10/branches/5.x/tiki-admin_categories.php: <br> tikiwiki: [ENH] Admin categories: Don't show categorised pages in the "add to cat" section as they're already added. <br> tikiwiki: TODO refactor to do same for all object types ***: benjamin__ has joined #tikiwiki <br> rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki MacLeod: I'm getting ROI questions again about our wiki hosting costs. <br> Is there a way to find out how often each user accesses a Tiki site? ricks99: TIki log or Action log MacLeod: hmmm <br> Not sure how to parse the Tiki log. <br> I've got a good histogram of "Days Since Last Login" from the user registry. <br> That didn't take too much manipulation. ricks99: can use action log. Filter on the specified user <br> or just use tiki log. it has the LOGIN even t for each user CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27641 10/version-control-bridge/tikipush.php: [MOD] Adding identification of reported bugs MacLeod: Don't see how to export the Tiki logs. <br> I'm not trying to look at a specific user, but rather to quantify activity across the user base. <br> We're still using v3.1. Aren't Action Logs a 4.x feature? ***: lmnt has joined #tikiwiki <br> benjamin__ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) ricks99: you can export directly from the database sylvieg: <u>MacLeod</u>: why not using something like google analytics? ricks99: ...or as sylvieg says, use a real analytics program lmnt: still having a problem with the code plugin <br> i created a fresh install, fresh database, of tiki-5, added some code sections to the first screen and same problem, it doesnt seem to close the code box correctly <br> <u>This</u>: {CODE()}TEST{CODE} ricks99: are you using this on a wiki page? <br> using Wiki editor or WYSIWYG lmnt: yes on a wiki page <br> using wiki editor - its the default on a new install ricks99: are you using the Plugin helper, or coding it by hand? <br> the CODE plugin works fine on all of my 5.0 sites lmnt: im thinking its either some PHP setting or MYSQL setting? <br> since it is still happening on a completely fresh install ***: redflo has joined #tikiwiki lmnt: I get a "p~" after the edit plugin graphic <br> mysql version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 ricks99: Did u install via FTP or Fantasico <br> if FTP are u 100% sure that all the files transferred properly? lmnt: no i installed from the command line ricks99: no sure. i have never seen p~ after the edit plugin graphic <br> do u have a URL i can see? ***: matteo_servas_it has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) sylvieg: is php.5.0 enough? <br> the p~ is probably a result of ~np~ lmnt: i dont have an external url, its all internal ricks99: Min requirement is php 5.0, recommended is 5.2.1+ <br> @lmnt: go to your database and manually edit the page (it is in the tiki_pages table. Add/confirm that the syntax is correct for the code plugin <br> {CODE()}foo{CODE} MacLeod: <u>sylvieg</u>: have never used google analytics. seem to recall reading something about it a while ago. will check it out, thx. ***: redflo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: yes, as ricks99 says <br> proposing to bump the requirement to 5.1 is on my agenda since several months though lmnt: php version: PHP Version 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 sylvieg: oops sorry 5.0 was the mysal version lmnt: in the database it is correct ***: MacLeod has quit IRC () chealer: shit, doc.tw.o seems to have encoding issues too ricks99: as does info.tw.o chealer: I added that Tiki 6 will require PHP 5.1. lmnt: if i remove the edit plugin icon option, the "p~" goes away and it looks normal <br> then if i add an additional CODE section, I get a "E}" at the end of the second one <br> if i add a third CODE section i get a "ODE}" at the end <br> also happens in preview ***: redflo has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: Not sure. I cannot reproduce.Did the installer report and sql errors? ***: chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> Cain has quit IRC (Quit: Sayaunara ^_^) sylvieg: <u>lmnt</u>: do you use special chars between the code tag <br> or before - like accent... <br> I remeber that there is a setting in the server that needs not to be to have strlen, mb_strlen working properly ***: Cain has joined #tikiwiki lmnt: no special characters, no errors on the install <br> same thing with IE or firefox <br> write now i am just using: {CODE()}Testing{CODE} <br> ive tried a lot of different things - its got to be some kind of server setting or php setting no? sylvieg: did you try with another charset in db/local.php ***: Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) sylvieg: doc.tw is down lmnt: right now its set at utf8 changi: <u>sylvieg</u>: on it <br> tracker are not my friend this week sylvieg: in db/local.php try to put this line into comment <br> <u>changi</u>: thx lmnt: still same thing sylvieg: and #client_charset='latin1'; <br> sorry $client.. <br> another one to try is $api_tiki='adodb'; <br> after I am out of ideas... <br> but I am pretty sure it is something with encoding ... <br> when doc.tw will be back I can find the setting that tiki doesnt like ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) <br> Fets_ has joined #tikiwiki lmnt: do i need to restart apache after those changes or just refresh the page? sylvieg: no <br> refresh teh page lmnt: ok latin1 didnt work ***: Fets_ is now known as FetsCP lmnt: and the adodb didnt work either - the setting thing sounds interesting sylvieg: if you acn come back to the default db/local.php changi: back sylvieg: thx changi <br> <u>lmnt</u>: my last clue is to see on your server if you overloaded mb_string <br> mbstring.func_overload = 7 will not work very weel with tiki - it must be mbstring.func_overload = 0 lmnt: where is that setting? ***: FetsCP has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) lmnt: FIXED! <br> changed mbstring.func_overload = 2 to mbstring.func_overload = 0 and all is well sylvieg: Ahah... lmnt: your help is much appreciated CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27642 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: typo lmnt: how on earth would i have ever figured that out?? lol sylvieg: I thought it was only when using special char... <br> I took me 2 full days to figure this out lmnt: thanks so much sylvieg: tiki coding is not clean - but it needs time to fix that.. <br> the plugin uses mb functions and non mb functions together - not good lmnt: i think its a great product, even with the code thing, but now its even better lol sylvieg: the problem was for any plugin not only CODE ***: Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27643 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-export_tracker.php): [FIX]tracker export: the function addEmptyDir does not exist on Debian Etch -: changi just stopping website for maintenance ***: Gergely has joined #tikiwiki <br> lmnt has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) Gergely: Hi, a few weeks back I asked how the "Show user's real name instead of login (when possible)" works. I learned then that there is a user preference "realname," which may be added to a user tracker. So I added such a field. However, it still does not work. Any idea how to set it up? sylvieg: How do I load a custom jquery in tiki? <br> <u>Gergely</u>: perhaps it does not work in all the palces <br> does it work in the login box for instance? Gergely: No, I did not see it working in any of the places. sylvieg: do you clear the cache? Gergely: No, I shall do it now <br> great, it almost works.. <br> for the sysadm it works. I just cannot fill in the realname tracker item field for anybody else. so it is empty. therefore it is not replaced, I guess <br> should not it replaced even then? sylvieg: it shopuld not be empty - you should have the user login at least Gergely: how can I fill it in? it is not to edit in the admin interface, neither in the tracker plugin ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: TikiWiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org) sylvieg: what do you mean fill the real name for each user? Gergely: where is that info stored? what I did is that I created a user pref field in a user tracker with param "realname" <br> ... this is how I understood this should happen sylvieg: you can at least as an admin modify the real name in user prefs from tiki-adminusers.php <br> for the traker field - I never tested Gergely: do you mean "edit user: .. " tab? <br> there is only e-mail, passwd, repeat passwd, and a button that send to the user tracker <br> I see where the user preferences are. a tiny button <br> it only has "new password" and "confirm new passwd" <br> even the admin user does not have any input box to show his real name: "System Administrator" <br> found under myinfo there. not editable sylvieg: User Preferences Screen try to check this option Gergely: <u>sylvieg</u>: thank you. also checked where it works: unfortunately, in 2 of the 3 places I use it does not: trackerlist, pretty tracker, while for the tracker commments it does. I will update the documentation. <br> I would give it a try to get it work for those 2. If I did so, where could I submit? <br> oh, doc.tikiwiki.org is down ***: Gergely has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki CIA-13: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27644 10/branches/5.x/tiki-browse_categories.php: [FIX] Do not show watch icons if feature is off or not logged in ***: redflo has left <br> mlaporte has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o mlaporte <br> marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <br> timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki