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[04:28] <CIA-64> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27818 10/branches/proposals/4.x/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] version is now 4.3 (at least)
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[04:32] <wincel> hello world ...
[04:32] <wincel> anyone here who can help with a bad and weird tikiwiki problem?
[04:34] <wincel> I run a tikiwiki page (4.1 unfortunatelly, it is a kind of club thing and they deny me direct ftp access for updating and all the time change the passworts so updating wasn't possible so far)
[04:34] <wincel> until some days ago everything was fine
[04:35] <wincel> suddenly one forum which was so far only accessible by some users gives an "access denied" even to admins
[04:35] <wincel> global permissions for admins to admin and read and such each forum - does not work
[04:36] <wincel> individual permissions for that forum to give admins access has no effect
[04:36] <wincel> any idea?
[04:39] <Neil_Melbourne_> The error message is from Tikiwiki, not the webserver(e.g. Apache, IIS) right?
[04:43] <wincel> yes
[04:44] <wincel> its the same one would get if the permissions were saying you are not allowed to see that page
[04:44] <wincel> but there are no permissions anywhere set
[04:44] <wincel> all the other forums work fine
[04:48] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Access denied suddenly for a single forum even for admins - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37625
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[07:06] <luciash>  polom
[07:14] <chealer> good morning luciash
[07:15] <luciash> salut chealer 
[07:15] <chealer> so you finally learned French! :-)
[07:15] <chealer> I'm looking at http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37611
[07:16] <luciash> haha
[07:16] <chealer> this reminds me a bug we had around 4.1. a cache issue involving user details
[07:17] <chealer> I think the bug was fixed in branch 4.x, but seems to be back in 5.0
[07:18] <luciash> weren't all the *_new modules deprecated ?
[07:19] <chealer> aha
[07:19] <chealer> [février 16, 2010] [02:49:45 PM] <chealer>      somebody recently brought a problem on the mailing list where user preferences cache is not being invalidated properly in 4.1. I'm still wondering if somebody fixed that.
[07:20] <luciash> no idea, excuse moi
[07:20] <chealer> luciash: well, most new modules were eliminated. I think since_last_visit_new is the last one remaining
[07:20] <chealer> I did the since_last_visit modules quickly, they're the biggest. they could use more work
[07:21] <chealer> since_last_visit is now called Since last visit (simple) and since_last_visit_new is called Since last visit
[07:23] <luciash> ah, i c
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[09:12] <luciash> chealer: what is the difference between them ?
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[09:37] <fahmad> hello
[09:37] <fahmad> anyone around ?
[09:39] <Andurino> hello
[09:42] <fahmad> hey 
[09:42] <fahmad> i have very strange issue
[09:42] <fahmad> when i try to access a page which does not exits then it will redirected to different page
[09:43] <fahmad> however i should get option to create page if it does not exists
[09:43] <fahmad> any idea ...
[09:52] <Andurino> I do not speak good English
[09:53] <Andurino> Creo entender que un enlace no te funciona ¿puedes poner la url?
[09:53] <Andurino> I understand that a link does not work can you put the url?
[10:01] <luciash> fahmad: maybe you have enabled the redirect to simmilar or home page feature
[10:02] <Andurino> For that reason we indicated that if possible we put the url
[10:03] <Andurino> To see if a redirection is scheduled or coding error
[10:12] <fahmad> luciash: i did not sir :(
[10:13] <fahmad> how can i check either redirect is enabled or not ?
[10:13] <fahmad> http://lib.server4sale.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Training+Material
[10:13] <fahmad> when you click on advance commands
[10:14] <fahmad> then it will redirect to http://lib.server4sale.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Basic%20Commands
[10:17] <fahmad> any idea ?
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[11:29] <chibaguy> polom
[11:31] <luciash> hi chibaguy 
[11:38] <chibaguy> hi luciash
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[12:50] <ricks99> hi all :-)
[12:52] <chibaguy> hi ricks99
[12:53] <ricks99> is info.tw.o down?
[12:57] <changi> ricks99: the server is not completely down :)
[12:58] <ricks99> ... just partially? ;-)
[12:59] <changi> current load 60 :)
[13:00] <changi> damned tracker
[13:02] <changi> someone try to kill us
[13:09] <chibaguy> I was thinking about putting theme information in trackers at themes.tw.o, but am not sure if I should due to site performance issues.
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[14:01] <Helene_> Is Workspaces really possible with 4.2? 
[14:03] <chibaguy> Helene_: I don't think so. I asked once for some simple documentation, and never got a reply.
[14:04] <chibaguy> or example, etc.
[14:04] <marclaporte> Possible via profiles
[14:04] <marclaporte> but better in 5 with gui
[14:05] <Helene_> Ummm.. that's pretty bad news... we tought that 4.2 would allow us to do it for wiki project...
[14:05] <Helene_> with profiles? 
[14:06] <marclaporte> did you read? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Workspace
[14:06] <chibaguy> Have I missed the documentation? Or is there none written yet?
[14:07] <Helene_> but can we install 2 "profiles" in the same wiki? or... 
[14:07] <marclaporte> yes, you can apply as many profiles as you want: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/
[14:08] <chibaguy> ah, I didn't see that docs page since some additions were made.
[14:10] <Helene_> I read those... but I'll read it again ... I maybe missed something... thanks !!!
[14:11] <chibaguy> Helene_: please post back if you were successful or not; I'm curious.
[14:14] <chibaguy> but don't really have time to check out workspaces now, myself.
[14:15] <Helene_> chigabuy: Sure!! If I do it successfully, I will be suprised myself but sure I'm going to publish something on it. I don't understand very well the present documentation and maybe others too. 
[14:15] <Helene_> If I can improve something on tiki it'll be my pleasure;)
[14:16] <chibaguy> ok, thank you.
[14:25] * ricks99 is *very* impressed with wysiwyg editgor in 5.x i may never go back to wiki editing!
[14:36] <chibaguy> ricks99, that's good to here. and isn't it still fckeditor in 5, to be updated to ckeditor in tiki 6?
[14:37] <chibaguy> go to hear (I thought that looked strange)
[14:37] * chibaguy at the end of  very long day...
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[14:44] <ricks99> ckeditor in 5.x
[14:44] <ricks99> is 98% perfect
[14:44] * ricks99 just starting the day
[14:44] <Helene_> Does anyone knows of a site using multiple workspaces? I'm not sure Workspaces are really want we need... 
[14:48] <ricks99> I think xavi uses workspaces on a few sites
[14:50] <Helene_> Great!! I'll ask him (or her... ??) when is going to be online. Thanks ricks99 !
[14:50] <ricks99> xavi = him
[14:50] <ricks99> i believe he is in europe/spain
[14:51] <ricks99> so possibly a timezone issue
[14:51] <Helene_> ok! good to know.. I could have said "her"... :)
[15:12] <CIA-64> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27819 10/trunk/lib/ (shipping/shippinglib.php test/shipping/ShippingTest.php): [FIX] Tolerate lowercase letters in zip codes
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[16:06] <wikiman> Any issues with dynamic content in 4.3?  The iframe tag is getting cutoff and the block doesn't show up in admin modules.
[16:06] <wikiman> Or is it just me?
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[16:53] <j0n3> hi there, maybe you can help me, please: I wan to change background color on the pluginTab, but after changing some values, same color on tab background. Can anybody please help...
[16:53] <j0n3> i mean css
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[17:54] <jonnyb> polom
[17:56] <chealer> hey jonnyb
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[19:15] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: unable to send mail - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37630
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[19:43] <Robert__> Hey Guys!
[19:44] <jonnyb> hi Robert__ 
[19:44] <Robert__> I used to have dual monitors at my old job, not I have a single winde-screen.  I need to shell out some for a dually.
[19:45] <jonnyb> more pixels is best!
[19:45] <Robert__> It's difficult, code, documentation, code, browser, repeat
[19:46] * jonnyb introduces Robert__ (who is the jquery.sheet guy) to tiki
[19:47] <Robert__> hi
[19:47] <Robert__> I've really only talked to Jonny, Xavi, Marc, and Lu. Nice to meet you guys.
[19:48] <Robert__> Jonny,
[19:49] <Robert__> One thing that I was thinking that would be nice to fix is the height with sheets.
[19:49] <Robert__> Can I include it as one of the parameters used in the plugin on a page?
[19:49] <jonnyb> do you mean store it in the sheet definition?
[19:50] <Robert__> Not nessisarly.
[19:50] <jonnyb> yes, we could add it as a parameter
[19:50] <Robert__> I think that we should only need it when embedding.
[19:50] <jonnyb> it should default to the height of the sheet (doesn't it?)
[19:50] <Robert__> Would it be difficult?  I don't mind doing that if it is somewhat simple.
[19:50] <jonnyb> adding width and height would be good
[19:51] <Robert__> But just for plugin usage.
[19:51] <Robert__> Outside of that, it may be nice, but not a needed.
[19:52] <jonnyb> can you add it to the dev page?
[19:52] <Robert__> whats the url?
[19:53] <jonnyb> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Spreadsheet#Jonny
[19:53] <jonnyb> also multi-sheet and multi-instance as discussed on skype
[19:59] <Robert__> Added
[20:02] <Robert__> In the spreadsheets I have at visop-dev.ourwiki.net I'm using some real world templates.
[20:03] <Robert__> So I keep running into the snag of that the function doesn't exist in jquery.sheet, and I figure, rather than ditch the plugin, it's probably best to add the new function... 
[20:03] <Robert__> what do you think?
[20:03] <jonnyb> how do you mean? spreadsheet functions?
[20:04] <Robert__> They are used in formulas
[20:04] <jonnyb> right - like sin() etc you mean?
[20:04] <Robert__> That way, I go to a spreadsheet, press ctrl+~, revealing all the formulas, select all cells, copy, go over to sheet, make sure there are enough columns and rows, paste, and it works.
[20:04] <Robert__> yes
[20:05] <jonnyb> sounds more advanced the my spreadsheet usage (mainly SUM() )
[20:11] <Robert__> Yea, but you have to admit, those functions are generally simple, and pure eye candy for getting others to use tikiwiki+jquery.sheet
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[20:12] <jonnyb> yes, should be fairly trivial to add - the more the merrier, surley?
[20:12] <Robert__> as long as they aren't finding true pi.
[20:13] <jonnyb> no such thing ;)
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[20:13] <Robert__> I'm glad you agree
[20:14] <jonnyb> computers can't do circles 
[20:15] <Robert__> But they can draw a bunch of poly's and line them up at an intervening angle that resemble a circle.
[20:15] <jonnyb> that usually enough
[20:15] <Robert__> Hey Jonny, is there a fix for this height thing?  I'm going crazee trying to edit these spreadsheets.
[20:16] <Robert__> Can I wrap a spreadsheet in a div?
[20:16] <jonnyb> should be quite easy to add a parameter and stick it on the div's style attribute
[20:16] <Robert__> and fix it's height?
[20:16] <jonnyb> it should already be in one, no?
[20:16] <Robert__> Yea
[20:16] <Robert__> I was just thinking of a fast fix
[20:16] <Robert__> Where should I look to find the parameter parser?
[20:17] <jonnyb> yes, you could use {DIV(height=200px)}{DIV} plugin (guessing at the syntax, use the popup form)
[20:19] <Robert__> How would I wrap it around a spreadsheet? - {DIV(height=200px)}{SHEET(ID=2)}{SHEET}{DIV}
[20:19] <Robert__> The absent "/" closure makes me a little leery. 
[20:22] <Robert__> No dice.
[20:22] <jonnyb> know what you mean about the missing / thing
[20:23] <jonnyb> did you use the form to add it?
[20:23] <jonnyb> it'll get the syntax right
[20:23] <jonnyb> open the edit help thingy
[20:25] <Robert__> even less dice
[20:25] <jonnyb> hmm - odd
[20:25] <jonnyb> looks like there isn't a height param :(
[20:26] <Robert__> {DIV(type="div",width="100%",align="left",float="none",clear="none",height="200px")}{SHEET(id=8)}{SHEET}{DIV}
[20:26] <Robert__> I just saw that
[20:26] <jonnyb> should have one i tihnk
[20:27] <Robert__> I don't know about div, because you can't really control content like that, the only reason you should have it is if you could make it scrollable.
[20:27] <Robert__> Where should I look for the parser?
[20:27] <jonnyb> libs/wikiplugins
[20:27] <Robert__> smarty?
[20:27] <Robert__> ok
[20:28] <jonnyb> lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_div.php 
[20:29] <jonnyb> would be a good one to add as your first one :)
[20:29] <Robert__> yea
[20:29] <jonnyb> can you do it in branches/5.x?
[20:29] <Robert__> I'd rather start in trunk first, is that ok?
[20:29] <jonnyb> i think we're still merging that with trunk
[20:29] <Robert__> (my website is in trunk)
[20:30] <jonnyb> ok, we can backport it when it works
[20:30] <Robert__> Whatever you think.
[20:30] <jonnyb> seems very strange it doesn't have it, imho
[20:31] <Robert__> does order matter?
[20:31] <Robert__> {SHEET(id=>x, simple=>n)}
[20:31] <jonnyb> it's the order the params appear in the editor form
[20:31] <jonnyb> oh, not in usage
[20:32] <Robert__> lool
[20:32] <Robert__> got it
[20:32] <chealer> ur, is it new that sourceforge viewvc stops displaying logs at branch point? for example http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/proposals/4.x/tiki-index.php?view=log shows a single revision
[20:34] <jonnyb> hi chealer - no, i think svn's always done that
[20:35] <Robert__> Jonny, should there be a default spreadsheet height?
[20:35] <jonnyb> i think it should work it out itself, from the number of rows
[20:35] <Robert__> You sure?
[20:36] <Robert__> The reason I say that is because the more rows you have, the father it gets from the formula editor at the top.
[20:36] <Robert__> and the bars that identify the spreadsheet cell location.
[20:36] <chealer> jonnyb: meh, I'll live with it then. thanks
[20:37] <Robert__> What if we did that if they set the parameter height to true.
[20:37] <Robert__> and if use a css value override.
[20:38] <jonnyb> how do you mean "true"? i would say if height is empty() use the sheet height
[20:38] <jonnyb> (probably what you meant)
[20:39] <Robert__> yea
[20:39] <Robert__> better
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[20:48] <CIA-64> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27820 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27798 to 27817 (except for tiki-register.php - too many conflicts)
[20:50] <Robert__> Jonny
[20:51] <Robert__> I see that you are setting the sheet by class.
[20:51] <Robert__> If you simply use the id, multi instance should work fine.
[20:51] <Robert__> on the jquery.sheet side anyway
[20:52] <jonnyb> ok, will look at it soon (in a day or 3)
[20:53] <Robert__> lol
[20:54] <chealer> jonnyb: another example, userslib.php in trunk stops at [SVN] Create trunk from branches/1.10. branches/1.10 is now in feature-freeze. Every contributors should now commit in trunk/.
[20:55] <chealer> I suppose that means viewvc is not showing anything pre-svn (before r13490)
[20:55] <jonnyb> maybe those branches weren't created right
[20:55] <chealer> that's trunk
[20:55] <jonnyb> when did we switch from cvs to svn? 2ish i think
[20:55] <chealer> I'm sure I've seen history going back to the beginning on svn
[20:56] <chealer> seems to be around that commit, Jul 10 07:49:40 2008
[20:56] <jonnyb> could be - never looked that far back
[20:57] <chealer> and I'm getting python exceptions if I try following links that point to earlier revisions
[20:57] <chealer> surely something broke
[20:58] <jonnyb> probably why some aren't keen on changing again (to git or Hg, etc)
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[21:05] <pavi> Hi I recently upgraded from 1.9.x to 5.0 
[21:05] <pavi> It was al  right . but now I cant seem to change the theme
[21:06] <pavi> when I click on apply setting . Nothing happpens but a page refresh
[21:07] <pavi> does it happen because of logo picture ?
[21:08] <pavi> luciash: sylvieg wikiman  any ideas ?
[21:13] <Robert__> Jonny, what do you use for code searching in eclipe?
[21:13] <Robert__> eclipse
[21:14] <jonnyb> Robert__: just the usual file search (ctrl+h)
[21:14] <jonnyb> pavi: try flushing caches (again?)
[21:15] <jonnyb> pavi: sounds wrong - no known issues with themes afaik
[21:15] <jonnyb> i have to go an eat now - back later
[21:26] <chealer> migration to svn in March 2008, that's the earliest I can see: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/1.10/lib/userslib.php?view=log
[21:33] <chealer> hum, I can actually see the cvs era history, on http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki/lib/userslib.php?view=log&pathrev=12160
[21:33] <chealer> but that took quite a bit of clicking
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[21:50] <pavi> jonnyb:  tried, it worked :)  thank you .  http://pavithran.org/devel/wiki/tiki-index.php
[21:52] <Gergely> Hi, Something to report: dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php does not show much in the comments tab. E.g. no comments can be added. It worked one or two days ago.
[21:53] <Gergely> oh sorry, I was not logged in
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[22:13] <CIA-64> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r27821 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sheet.php: Added height parameter to wikiplugin_sheet.php
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[22:45] <CIA-64> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r27822 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-view-sheets.tpl tiki-view_sheets.php): Added heights to sheets if edited from a page, for a smoother user interface
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[22:49] <ripero> hi
[22:52] <Robert__> Ok guys, I just got done adding heights to spreadsheets in tikiwiki for jQuery.sheet, let me know what you think - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/Spreadsheet+Playground
[22:52] <ripero> any idea of when the 5.1 version will be released?
[22:56] * sylvieg advices to be svn sync with the latest released branch - usually there is no risk - releasing takes a lot of energy
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[23:07] <ripero> thanks for the advice :)
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[23:15] <devlabmtl> Hi everybody
[23:16] <devlabmtl> I switched an old tiki3 theme made by marclaporte. and now I cannot revert to a Tiki5 theme. Any hint on the _GET request I should do.  please... ;)
[23:17] <marclaporte> http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks#I_am_stuck_in_a_theme
[23:23] <devlabmtl> mtx_init: did you ever ran ./setup.sh ?
[23:24] <devlabmtl> any hints? I switched an old tiki3 theme made by marclaporte. and now I cannot revert to a Tiki5 theme. Any hint on the _GET request I should do.  please... ;)
[23:24] <devlabmtl> hey marclaporte ;)
[23:25] <marclaporte> devlabmtl: see above link
[23:25] <devlabmtl> just realized that :)
[23:26] <devlabmtl> dah. tiki-switch_theme.php?theme=fivealive.css dont work.
[23:26] <devlabmtl> I tried americana2007 stuck since then.
[23:31] <marclaporte> devlabmtl : you could change in the DB
[23:31] <devlabmtl> yeah. I am trying at the moment.
[23:31] <devlabmtl> thing is I find it weird to say theme=fivealive.css instead of theme=fivealive
[23:32] <devlabmtl> and I am trying using the database directly in tiki_theme*
[23:33] <devlabmtl> mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_objects;
[23:33] <devlabmtl> Empty set (0.00 sec)
[23:33] <devlabmtl> mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_categs;
[23:33] <devlabmtl> +---------+--------------------+
[23:33] <devlabmtl> | categId | theme              |
[23:33] <devlabmtl> +---------+--------------------+
[23:33] <devlabmtl> |      43 | americana2009.css  |
[23:33] <devlabmtl> |      44 | americana2011.css/ |
[23:33] <devlabmtl> +---------+--------------------+
[23:33] <devlabmtl> 2 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[23:33] <devlabmtl> mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_sections;
[23:33] <devlabmtl> Empty set (0.00 sec)
[23:33] <devlabmtl> all empty
[23:33] <devlabmtl> none that mention americana2007
[23:34] <devlabmtl> off hell yeah ;) sorry I forgot that I cannot paste stuff
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