devlabmtl : go to tiki-preferences ok i see in tiki_actionlog table feature 1278025888 style system admin 172.16.112.1 americana2007.css 0 NULL no i do not find a file called tiki-preferences and neither a database table called that way oh. watched a second time. found effectively a tiki_preference table Gottt it, thanks! good. I cleared the cache also http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Troubleshooting#Locked_out_of_Tiki -> look form something.css Fixed. I documented it Hey. How do we do conditionnal statements? :) ok, sorry. I got what I searched for. wow, SourceForge mailing lists browsing is bering fast! Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3464 - - Adsense does not display - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3464 I can't find what the "Wiki actions bar" option does, on the wiki admin page. Toggling it doesn't seem to do anything. Searching for its preference name doesn't turn up anything in tiki-show_page.tpl or tiki-topline.tpl. The icons are controlled by "Wiki top line location" and the edit link/buttons, etc. are controlled by "Wiki buttons". Is this wiki admin option a functionless artifact? Or is my test site missing something? (looking at branch 5 site) Started investigating because I couldn't keep track of the differences between Wiki action bar, Wiki navigation bar, Wiki top line, and Wiki buttons (all wiki admin options listed together). I think some explanations are needed next to the items. I'll add some small text for each. Related question: Putting the Wiki buttons at the top of the page also moves comments to the top. Was this always the case? Or should it be? Seems like comments should always be at the page bottom.... ...or that it should be possible to move the buttons up but not move up the comments. well, maybe I'm wrong about that, and comments at top are ok. but that's unconventional, so I think it'd be good if the buttons and comments could be controlled separately. ...some dubious polom hi changi hehe chibaguy chibaguy: BTW, Tiki 5 still has fckeditor by default. ckeditor is an experimental option it has significant drawbacks, in particular not being able to use plugins (although I think fckeditor has the same issue) hi chealer. I haven't used the wysiwyg editor much. Rick said he really likes it now, though. Hello every one can some one tell me when i put something like this then it will remove < and /> how can i get full "" without getting removed <, / and > fahmad, maybe you can use < and > for the angle brackets. humm lemme try sir chibaguy: ok thats works chibaguy: now i have one more question i used ^configuration ............^ now i have ^ one extra in config and it break it and i want to do that it will be showed like it was in apache config how can i do that .... sorry, I don't know what you mean about ^configuration ............^ chibaguy: if you have wiki try to create test page ... and put this ... ^CODE HERE^ it will show you under white CODE HERE but if you have two ^CODE ^HERE^ it will break it will show CODE in white and rest in default ^ is wiki syntax to start or end a box (div class="box"), so you would have unpredictable results when using 3 of them. chibaguy: humm lemme show you page ok do you want ^ to display as a character? yes then you need to escape it such as ~np~^~/np~, I guess. ok hold wow great ok chibaguy: from where i can get these info any resource ... doc.tikiwiki.org has information such as about the wiki syntax lemme find :) because i have been googling for that but i could not find such info :) chibaguy: could not find it :( It should be on this page or linked from this page: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Using+Wiki+Pages&structure=Documentation But I don't find that particular thing either. Well, on here probably: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text&structure=Documentation ok thanks chibaguy you're welcome ((Upgrade & Downgrade Procedure)) when i put this it will show as it is but i want it to be like wiki link should i use ~np~&~/np~ not working either no, since it will be part of the url, it needs to be encoded. I don't know the encoding offhand. & in wiki page names (and so in urls) are tricky. humm ok Maybe & but I'd take the easy path and use ((Upgrade and Downgrade Procedure)) New Forum Posts: TOC plus structId and pagename params not working (v4.2)? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37636 Also see http://zukakakina.com/tiki-index.php?page=Ampersands+%26+S%2Fashes chibaguy: lemme check It seems you can make a Tiki wiki page that has & in the page name, but then using the page name in a wiki page as a link doesn't work. ...as maybe one kind of encoding is needed for the url, but another kind as a link in a wiki page; I'm not sure exactly. The short answer is use 'and'. ;-) not working :) :D right chibaguy: btw when i add < and > on preview it showing right thing but when i save it does not show me like this <IfModule ssl_module> anyway to fix that ? I don't know, really. I haven't tested that kind of thing lately. I can use ~np~^~/np~ in a wiki page to produce a < character. I mean ~np~<~/np~ works in both preview and saved. chibaguy: but its does not work with e.g. It worked for me, though it added a space after each bracket. hold on I used ~np~<~/np~IfModule test.c~np~>~/np~~np~<~/np~/IfModule~np~>~/np~ lemme try sir :) chibaguy: it works but you see it add extra space .. If the text doesn't have to be in-line, you can use the code plugin: {CODE()}{CODE} but this is a div, so always starts on a new line and goes full width. (a div with display: block) ok :) (I did a CODESPAN plugin a long time ago, which would format a code snippet within a line, as a span. but don't know if it still works. CODE & CODESPAN also remove <....> :) Not for me: http://zukakakina.com/chrome_test&no_bl=y I have to go. Will be back later. New Forum Posts: Forenproblem nach Upgrade - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=37641 New Forum Posts: Problem with forum after upgrade - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37642 fahmad: for ((Upgrade & Downgrade Procedure)) to make it work you need to enable "Full" for the Wiki Format links on Admin Home > Wiki luciash: ok Q. Why are there so few people answering questions in Tiki's forums? A: One factor is that Tiki is a more complex program than most, and the questions tend to be harder to answer (i.e., fewer people have the knowledge, and the ones who do are busy adding to the complexity A: because 75% of the Qs are already answered in the docs, the other 25% are very site-specific and posters usually do not provide enough info ;-). A.2: developers prefer to *CODE* not *SUPPORT* good points, ricks99 A.3: tiki forum has been *VERY* flaky past several weeks several weeks only? ;-) lol I've been looking at the docs a bit more lately and it's amazing how fast they go out of date. yeah, about the forums, whatever will improve things, I'm all for. re docs: more than just out of date. i find the structure and organization quite unusable. need really 2 types of "docs": what vs. how hi ricks99 & chibaguy hi jonnyb Re version differences in docs, I kinda like how tabs work for this here: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Infinite_carousel I guess as long as pages like this can print in a no-tabs view. i must agree about us coders avoiding the forums - i end up debugging and wanting to revamp them each time i go in and forget what i was there for @jonnyb wanted to talk to u about ajax & accessbility issues yeah, it tends to be a time sink. any way to notify screen readers of ajax updates? using ajax causes a failrure of all web accessbility standards :( ricks99, do you find any info on that on ajax or jquery sites? good point ricks99 - short answer: don't know seems like it'd be a major issue. there must be a way one more item to add to the list presumably they operate with javascript_enabled off? in which case it should degrade ok (gracefully would be nice) js can b accessible thats what is for ricks99, by ajax, do you mean asynchronous updates in th page? Anyone here good with math? y. screen readers do not get notification that content area has changed back to docs, tabbing works great, but no way to print structure + specific version. (i found that issue with smarties) @jonnyb: as end-user, if i have js *on*, can I "opt out" of ajax? not currently afaik, ricks99 ricks99, well, can we print docs for a specific version now? only if it's on it's own page? heh, robert, I guess not. ;-) 1 page at a time by adding &tab=foo ah, ok but, clicking print button does *not* automatially add it (i logged a bug a while ago... was going to try to fix myself...) robertp: (following chat elsewhere) - looks like you need someone with financial maths ability. Not really my department ;) Thanks jonnyb Ok guys, I'm looking to put net present value into jquery.sheet, and need some math help. this is the main equasion that I've created that doesn't work all the way: result += values[i] / Math.pow((rate / 100) + 1, i); although from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value it looks like you have your array index mixed up with the "t" variable (where is "t"?) t is time I was figuring each value would be an increment in time I believe that is how it works in excel beyond me i'm afraid ricks99: cookietab=2 should work ricks99: it stores in cookie, so in print page it should stay on the same tab but you'd need to keep the same tabs and order for all versions of course right. Jonny jonnyb sory here :) would b fantastic to have some sort of ui on the print multi pages to select a version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value what is Rt the t is to the bottom of R what does that mean? I know when it's at the top it an exponent to the power of but when at the bottom, I don't know is it not multiply? I don't know. ah, no (it's been a while...) - i think it is the index (i.e. the value of R at time t) Man I feel dumb welcome, you're not alone :D like value[i]? value being an array of all the cells yes, so for a start replace your var i with a t result += values[t] / Math.pow((rate / 100) + 1, t); ;) ok, and your "rate" is the wikipedia "i"? result += values[t] / Math.pow((i / 100) + 1, t); robertp: looks good - working? It is close, but not close enough Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3465 - - TOC plus structId and pagename params not working (v4.2) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3465 Ok the formula is working correctly in that I get the correct value (or very close to it), but for some reason, it's not working like excel. what does this bit mean? "R0 is commonly placed to the left of the sum to emphasize its role as (minus) the investment" tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27823 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [NEW]discount: library to manage discount in payment If I run "=NPV(10,25000)" in sheet I get 22737, if I do it in excel I get 4166.67. ? myn looks to be close to that on wikipedia jonnyb - I ran "=NPV(10,B2:B8)" where column B represents the values from wikipedia, the result...... 8,881.52 Exactly like wikipedia I wonder what excel is doing...... so excel is wrong? I don't know surely not (these days) Do you have open office? I'm downloading. to test yes but need to get on with other stuff i'm afraid (unless you can send me an easy copy & paste test) No, my formula works correctly, Excel's npv formula isn't actually an npv, it is something else. Thanks for your time jonnyb, just fyi, if you use "=NPV(10,B1:B7)" rather than "=NPV(10%,B1:B7)" in excel you will not get npv for 10 percent. My code is right, and is going to be submitted. :D Jonny, you know what would be cool? Is if we get updates from external svn's here robertp: not sure how that's set up - i'm an irc n00b (comparatively) hi marclaporte polom jonnyb Marc - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/sheet13&parse=y&height=400px The calculations are still a bit off, but some of the problems that I'm running into is that javascript doesn't support the same type of math. and in order to fix it w/ copy past, we need a better way of regex to evaluate the formulas javascript regex isn't very smart tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27824 10/branches/5.x/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX][MOD] A few more fixes for Firefox & IE textarea selection problems, also some refactoring of JS code from toolbarslib to tiki-jquery.js. tikiwiki: More to do on IE (still) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27825 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [bp/r27821 & r27822][ENH] Added height parameter to wikiplugin_sheet.php & Added heights to sheets if edited from a page, for a smoother user interface robertp & marclaporte: you about? yea y i'm finally going to attach sheets again (refactoring etc) and would like to do it in 5.x so it goes into 5.1 it's nothing too heavy, and should fix quite a bit (we've also updated 5.x to use sheet 1.1, right?) any reason you switched to using trunk, robertp? everything seems to be pretty we identical at the moment (i just backported the height param thing) so 5.x ok then? (and robertp - you switch back? should be ok...) I don't see any big problems, I think it would be wise, then if we need to stay at a certain revision, just freeze it. Marc has me working on more tiki stuff right now anyway. The only thing that I'm thinking is the min files aren't updated regularly, but you guys don't use those do you? nope, tiki minifies as it goes btw, robertp, have you notices something (tiki JS) adds 100px to the sheet heights? yea And we need to set the colMargin in sheet to be a few more pixels. which is for the edit stuff at the top During initialization sheet removes the table(s) from inside it-self to get an accurate height, then put's it back in. Also, sometimes height can be a bit skewed by the menu + title at the top of the sheet indeed, that's why i just added some - i'll see if that's still needed Jonny were is your sheet save function stored? javascript $jq.sheet.saveSheet(true); in tiki-jquery.js go it thanks I want to preserve the height attribute if it was sent in the querystring.... where are you telling the page to reload? do we have a js fucntion to go to an anchor? after a save w/ sheet sorry robertp - on phone, back soon i found it tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27827 10/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Moving smarty_setup.php to a better location tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27828 10/trunk/ (lib/init/smarty.php lib/setup/smarty.php tiki-setup.php): [MOD] Removing file with little purpose New Forum Posts: Moved to new host , having trouble setting index.php - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37650 hi robertp - back hey sylvieg: not that i know of (js fn for go to anchor) robertp: are you now working on 5.x? I am trying to preserve height if it's set at the plugin level. Should I be? Or should I be in trunk My website is in trunk, so I felt that I should be in trunk. becasue i am, and if we work on the same files in different branches we'll be in trouble So that we can tweak spreadsheet templates for Marc. why did you switch to trunk? for other tiki stuff? i think these fixes/enhancements should go into 5.x and merged also into trunk In general, spreasheets will likely change quickly because Robert is very quickly adding stuff. So that's why I feel it's better in trunk But it's great to backport if you feel it should be but aren't there a load of bugs in 5.0 to fix? Or are they all ok in 5.x now? if i fix stuff in 5.x and robertp changes stuff in trunk we'll get a split (i won't have time to backport/manual merge everything) My feeling is that 5.x is good enough, and I prefer that we have the liberty of trunk. perhaps surgical backports to 5.x? ok, will do... Tiki6 is coming soon anyway (!) too true :) Marc, did you get a chance to check out that spreadsheet that you sent me? - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/sheet13&parse=y&height=400px looking now tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27829 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Adding APC stats and hints in administration panel robertp: can the visual aspect be closer? borders, colors, etc tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27830 10/trunk/ (lib/cache/cachelib.php tiki-admin_system.php): [FIX] Clear opcode cache when clearing template cache yes, but for some reason the sizes aren't being saved. and color there's nowhere really in tiki-sheets back-end for that info (yet) We are using json to save the sheets right? yup I've updated the sheet json methods a bit to account for style, class, and dimensions. but it's home-brewed code as that wasn't working when i added .sheet at first (v.4ish) I saw that also, i'm saving the function differently i think (sheet functions) Are there any quick ways that we can make saving those attributes possible? by the way - are you working on the tiki files now? (just had a conflict) Not that I've committed. today ok, good (except now i have a smarty breakage - don't think it's me) someone moved it's location smarty setup lph is doing more perf optimizations Tiki 5.0: Created some groups with Admin, then when I use a SubAdmins user to add members, those groups I've created are not listed. - Thanks! tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27831 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding support for XCache tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27832 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-performance.tpl: [ENH] Moving the bytecode dashboard up as it deserves more visibility. tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r27833 10/trunk/lib/captcha/captchalib.php: [FIX] replacing __DIR__ (PHP >= 5.3 only) with dirname(__FILE__) tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r27834 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-view-sheets.tpl tiki-view_sheets.php): [FIX] Changed $style variable that gave height to div for sheet plugin to $tiki_sheet_div_style and added height to $auto_query_args New Forum Posts: Upcoming Events feature or bug? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37653 robertp: i'm getting sheet save errors - save.html not found. Has the API for that changed? (in trunk) I don't think so. I'm using trunk and it's saving just fine. hmm, odd - must be my local changes (refactoring finally) seems to be urlSave not getting set here aha, it's with feature_ajax on (dull) polom jonnyb: regarding your tikiwiki-devel mail, what do you mean by "if you add the common categories to the jail roots"? hi chealer - i mean adding the id of (say) the Types category as another jailroot (you can have more than one) jonnyb: what is that supposed to do, limit objects displayed to those in all specified categories? well exactly - those are categories not involved in the jailroot thing i.e. if an object is not in one of the categories, it doesn't show? no, it shouldn't matter tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27835 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]discount: mysql error + check percent only the Department categs (in that example) should govern visibility per perspective jonnyb: you're saying a perspective can have several jail roots? yup, but that doesn't help here they appear in the perspective as top level categs jonnyb: if you have a single jail root, that category should become the root category, no? yes tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27836 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]trackerlist: option to use radio and not checkbox mlaporte, I'm waiting for the guys at openoffice to tell me how to access their formula source to fix and add new formulas, it's just taking to long, I didn't didn't go to school for math, I went for programming. In the mean time, what other spreadsheets would you like added to tiki? jonnyb: so how does it work when there are several jailroots? which one is the perspective's root category? all of them - well, they're all on the "top" level basically (to me) it means if you use categories for perspectives you sort of can't use it for anything else jonnyb: OK, so if you have a perspective with a category jail set to category 1 and you add category 2 to the category jail, you're only adding objects to those that will be displayed, right? as far as i understand it jonnyb: OK, I think I understand your mail can you do a reply explaining how you worked out what i meant? might help others ;) maybe it needs something like a way of ignoring categs that aren't "in" any jailroot cats at all jonnyb: what does that mean: if not, then listing one of the Types, say Course notes, brings up the pages for all three perspectives (or none at all, depending on object type) if you're in a perspective, the course notes in your perspective's category should display, shouldn't it? yes, but if you list "course notes" cater you either get all of them, or none you should get just the stuff that's also in your jailroot i think jonnyb: right jonnyb: so that's just a bug, no? well, it's "existing behaviour" - and you know tiki ;) i thought i though check before trying to "fix" it also, it's really difficult, so i was hoping someone else would come up with a nice, clean solution (and do it) robertp: you were asking about changing the CSS in your tiki - a good place to start is http://themes.tikiwiki.org/CSS I found it jonnyb: IMO, that and "if someone in a department perspective edits and saves a page, it will no longer be categorised as Course notes." are simply bugs I was looking for a clean way to integrate my skin w/ jqui robertp: i guess making a custom.css in the styles subdir you are using exacto I don't see a solution other than finding what's going wrong and fixing it. i got more or less there then went on my travels - will need to find it again somewhere in categlib i think $categlib->getSqlJoin() - line 1284 in trunk i think it should be something to do with the $categId['AND'] line, which _appears_ to be unused, but it seems to do the "blending" in the wrong order hehe, sounds possible but I'm not sure I want to dig in that code :-) not right now anyway. scaredy cat (me too ;) ) sounds like a sylvieg thing to me :) New Forum Posts: List of Version 0 Pages - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37655 jonnyb: perhaps a "solution" would be to complain to lphuberdeau :-) tried that... jonnyb: from memory getSqlJoin() is a lphuberdeau thing from TikiFestBarcelona or around i think that little ['AND'] bit was sylvieg - he just added the jailroot check but wasn't clear either what the section does - so he defaulted to safe or, perhaps sylvieg added support for several categories, yeah, I don't know what is the troubel? hi sylvieg hi sylvieg - categ jailroot stuff, i'm afraid hehe did you see my mail to devels? yes but I did not have a clue I never worked really with perspective have you got a few minutes for this now? which commit are refering? it was a very long time ago - i couldn't find the exact commit but it's $categlib->getSqlJoin() - line 1284 in trunk specifically the block after "if (isset( $categId['AND'] )" (line 1294) but what AND has something to do with your problem? the AND bit doesn't seem to be used anywhere, so should be safe to change, but the cater searches when jailrooted would need changing the categs in the 'AND' bit can be outside a user's jail (i think) as long as it's categorised in _one_ of my jails, i should be able to see it, no? at the moment it has to be in all so maybe i mean 'OR', rather than 'AND' (but AND my jails) but where do the jail receive and array with anAND? the OR should be done with a list od categId? i doesn't currently, which is why you can't have shared/common categs so it is get_jail that must be corrected? could be but that's probably used elsewhere for other reasons did you see in tikilib // if jail is zero, we should allow non-categorized objects to be seen as well, i.e. consider as no jail it means that ??? if jail is not zero ... who do not allow other categ? A testament to how well tiki and jqui work with outside themes - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About mlaporte, jonnyb - please check link Of coarse it's not done, but very shortly I will be migrating my existing site to this one. Very fun stuff sylvieg: what? I didn't touch jqui at all, just used custom.css chealer: I do not know - I try to understand.. what is the generated query jonnyb in your site? sorry - back (door) the object must be in the jailed category and the descendants or the object must not be in other jailed categories sylvieg: i was trying to get articles to do jailed stuff properly (can't recall exact path - list_articles() probably) yes, which means you have to duplicate all your common categories for each perspective (and tiki grinds to a halt eventually) also the category picker becomes unusable can you do a perspecitive with n categories yes because if you can do a perspective like A , current categs in your case Physics, Type .. ok but we wil see the other ... sorry I don't understand what that means: the object must be in the jailed category and the descendants or the object must not be in other jailed categories but then physics persp can see all Type categorised object (even for other persps) yes jonnyb - I got it so i thought that 'AND' section might be a good place to do it or maybe (better) fix get_jailed so it doesn't filter out categs (or descendants of) which aren't in a jailroot (or descendants) - messy problably your last points s/point robertp finally: nice and very quick work on http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About (background image a bit busy for my liking tho' ;) ) You are right I'm workin on it. tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27837 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-last_modified_blogs.php: global it is bloody - I activated perspective and it is buuged oh? so quick sylvieg? BTW, I tried the perspectives GUI on Tampa and that worked pretty well - on my 5.x it's almost worthless, I don't understand why. all the blogs last commits are buggy and by trying I mean I just saw the fields were showing properly, which doesn't happen on my local 5.x Info: Announcing the Formation of the Florida Tiki User Group - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article98-Announcing-the-Formation-of-the-Florida-Tiki-User-Group tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27838 10/trunk/modules/ (5 files): global tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27839 10/trunk/ (lib/sheet/grid.php tiki-view_sheets.php): tikiwiki: [REF] Refactor some code from tiki-view_sheets into grid.php (tiki-sheet lib) tikiwiki: Also fix for feature_jquery_sheet==n when feature_ajax==y jonnyb, did I mention that "Jonny B. Good" is one of my favorit songs to play on the guitar? i look forward to a rendition of it sometime - you coming to New York? One last time - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About css tweak to nearly done http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestNewYork6 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27840 10/trunk/lib/ (6 files in 5 dirs): global that "page flashing" in FF 3.6 is terrible luciash, are you talking about my page? talking about Tiki 5 on tw.o actually ok thanks hi luciash - i was getting that but if i disabled firebug (in the addons control) it went away, so decided i could live with it (actually couldn't find a fix for it) jonnyb: ah, i didn't know it is firebug related. i will try disable it too seemed to go away for me (but only if you effectively remove the plugin - not just switch it "off" for that site) :-( I can not have perspective working sylvieg: did you try running the profile? jail_demo or something jonnyb: trying [Disable] button in Addons prefs now I should probably worked last time i tried it jonnyb: seems to help jonnyb: but it is really a pity, because i need firebug there's something in tiki that firefox really doesn't like jonnyb: i will be forced to use chrome to develop then i guess maybe connected to the textarea selection issue i'm using the new safari - very impressive (but no linux i guess) i wonder why it does on http://tikiwiki.org/Home though (no textarea iirc there) it flashes whole page twice, then the both left and right columns until it "settles down" seems ok for me (as anon) nevermind, switching Chrome to be my default browser now looks ok logged on too luciash: yes, Marc had it during a demonstration in Montreal :-( i am logged in and it's ok with firebug disabled I doubt he had Firebug i'm getting JS errors now :( starting with document.getElementById("twitter_update_list") is null it is interesting that i have YSlow enabled still and it works even without Firebug (i thought YSlow was Firebug dependent) me2 that twitter thingie was in trunk only i guess (shoutox integration) *shoutbox think so but it's trying to do something with blogger.js from twitter.com i have web developer addon enabled too, btw jonnyb: you talk about tw.o site too ? yup maybe it's only the twitter button then there not tiki's error it's called from twitterCallback2() somewhere (anonymous function) I don't seem to get flickering on that page, either logged in or as anonymous, in Firefox 3.6.6, with Firebug or not no js errors chealer? weird jonnyb: onm a fresh install with the profile demo_jail - I added a category other - put the page A in A and other, I activated the perspective A and no problem jonnyb: I do get 3 JS errors, like you sylvieg: but what if you browse categ other? luciash: I remember flickering was very weird indeed. I had Flickering from Firefox 3.6 on Windows but not on Iceweasel 3.5 (Debian). nor with Iceweasel 3.6 I believe i can not browse other when I am in perspective A chealer: i think those would be responsible for Bad Things (like jquery not getting initialised right) if you have the direct url, sylvieg? what do you mean? e.g. tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId=3&deep=on oh, damn, i get the flickering again... it seems it only happens when i try to scroll the page until it is fully loaded or something jonnyb: indeed...the last 2 errors sound familiar, at least one must be caused by another i'm not getting the 2nd and 3rd on other tiki's luciash: did you get the 3 JS errors? if i don't scroll down the page it doesn't seem to flicker during load jonnyb: I'm sure I've seen the second one at least 2 times and thought "damn, wasn't that error fixed" the second time. chealer: yes other two sites seem ok - http://info.tikiwiki.org jonnyb: working perfectly with browse others I can see the apge A in perspective A oh? on a clean install only ;-) maybe it's other object types (i know articles aren't quite done) perhaps what if you edit that page inside the persp - for me it uncategorises it from the common ones luciash: are you getting that as anonymous? as logged in luciash: try anonymous, the different user preferences could make a difference jonnyb: for me too so this is the bug... well, a feature disappointment maybe ;) or the categ block must show the jail and the non jailed yes, it's tricky chealer: as anonymous only one (the twitter one) i think that would be better - only remove cats that are in other perspectives maybe luciash: OK but do you see the flickering? no I did not lost the categs... sorry oh, good but I can not asiign categories that are not in the jail so it is only to fix the categorize.php i'm sure there were more issues with common categories though btw jonnyb you missed the utf8 meeting - a big piece of trouble the only way seemed to be to have copy cats in each jailed categ yes, it seemed like it to me but not only for us - many php/mysql apps have the same legacy issue it seems chealer: nope, because i disabled YSlow too actually - yes the copy of categ seem to be the only sol the tool i use for mysql locally has an encoding mode called "utf-8 via latin1" which works chealer: as logged in i get the 3 errors too luciash: OK, I don't know about YSlow that's a strange mode same errors in JS console of Chrome eh, it happens again with other pages in my FF maybe when the page was cached it didn't flicker anymore, but when i went now to some other page (fresh one i didn't visit before) it happens to flicker again even with Firebug and YSlow off i am fed up of those mysterious things switching to chrome now luciash: are you on Ubuntu? yep luciash: oh, right, Ubuntu has Firefox. I thought for a moment it had Iceweasel chealer: np, thank you, don't waste your time with that now tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r27841 10/trunk/lib/blogs/bloglib.php: [ENH] using $tikilib->now instead of time() jonnyb is contact a plugin that can be included in a page? not that i know - i've often wondered though (well, occasionally) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27842 10/trunk/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tiki-view_sheets.php): [FIX] Sheet: Save broken when using feature_ajax. Also prep for multi-instance saves (more to come) can be done using trackers + wikiplugin alias tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27843 10/branches/5.x/modules/mod-func-since_last_visit_new.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Since last visit module showing old stuff. cached lastLogin is not properly maintained tikiwiki: r23192 regression, worsened in r25341 tikiwiki: Ref: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37611 tikiwiki: https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4B7983EE.3040006%40prager.ws&forum_name=tikiwiki-devel tikiwiki: Thanks Bernd Prager and Emmett tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27844 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: get_user_details(): remove outdated comment and warn about unreliability tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27845 10/trunk/tiki-view_sheets.php: [FIX] Sheets: Correct saving of subsheets created within jquery.sheet