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mose has quit IRC (*.net *.split) marclaporte: devlabmtl : go to tiki-preferences devlabmtl: ok
i see in tiki_actionlog table feature 1278025888 style system admin 172.16.112.1 americana2007.css 0 NULL marclaporte: no devlabmtl: i do not find a file called tiki-preferences
and neither a database table called that way
oh. watched a second time. found effectively a tiki_preference table
Gottt it, thanks! ***: goj has joined #tikiwiki
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mose has joined #tikiwiki devlabmtl: good. I cleared the cache also marclaporte: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Troubleshooting#Locked_out_of_Tiki -> look form something.css ***: Robert__ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)
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I documented it ***: goj has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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mose has quit IRC (*.net *.split) devlabmtl: Hey. How do we do conditionnal statements?
:)
ok, sorry. I got what I searched for. ***: goj has joined #tikiwiki
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chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I can't find what the "Wiki actions bar" option does, on the wiki admin page. Toggling it doesn't seem to do anything. Searching for its preference name doesn't turn up anything in tiki-show_page.tpl or tiki-topline.tpl.
The icons are controlled by "Wiki top line location" and the edit link/buttons, etc. are controlled by "Wiki buttons".
Is this wiki admin option a functionless artifact? Or is my test site missing something?
(looking at branch 5 site)
Started investigating because I couldn't keep track of the differences between Wiki action bar, Wiki navigation bar, Wiki top line, and Wiki buttons (all wiki admin options listed together).
I think some explanations are needed next to the items.
I'll add some small text for each.
Related question: Putting the Wiki buttons at the top of the page also moves comments to the top. Was this always the case? Or should it be? Seems like comments should always be at the page bottom....
...or that it should be possible to move the buttons up but not move up the comments.
well, maybe I'm wrong about that, and comments at top are ok. but that's unconventional, so I think it'd be good if the buttons and comments could be controlled separately. -: chibaguy imagines the reaction to "Comments location: top|bottom"....
chibaguy imagines new user thinking, wow, tiki really does have 1000 settings.... :-) chibaguy: ...some dubious changi: polom chibaguy: hi changi chealer: hehe chibaguy
chibaguy: BTW, Tiki 5 still has fckeditor by default. ckeditor is an experimental option
it has significant drawbacks, in particular not being able to use plugins (although I think fckeditor has the same issue) chibaguy: hi chealer. I haven't used the wysiwyg editor much. Rick said he really likes it now, though. ***: Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki
fahmad has joined #tikiwiki fahmad: Hello every one
can some one tell me when i put something like this <FARRUKH/> then it will remove < and />
how can i get full "<FARRUKH/>" without getting removed <, / and > chibaguy: fahmad, maybe you can use &lt; and &gt; for the angle brackets. fahmad: humm
lemme try sir
chibaguy: ok thats works
chibaguy: now i have one more question
i used ^configuration ............^
now i have ^ one extra in config
and it break it and i want to do that it will be showed like it was in apache config how can i do that .... chibaguy: sorry, I don't know what you mean about ^configuration ............^ fahmad: chibaguy: if you have wiki try to create test page ...
and put this ... ^CODE HERE^
it will show you under white CODE HERE
but if you have two ^CODE ^HERE^
it will break
it will show CODE in white and rest in default chibaguy: ^ is wiki syntax to start or end a box (div class="box"), so you would have unpredictable results when using 3 of them. fahmad: chibaguy: humm
lemme show you page
ok chibaguy: do you want ^ to display as a character? fahmad: yes chibaguy: then you need to escape it such as ~np~^~/np~, I guess. fahmad: ok
hold
wow
great chibaguy: ok fahmad: chibaguy: from where i can get these info
any resource ... chibaguy: doc.tikiwiki.org has information such as about the wiki syntax fahmad: lemme find
:)
because i have been googling for that but i could not find such info
:)
chibaguy: could not find it :( chibaguy: It should be on this page or linked from this page: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Using+Wiki+Pages&structure=Documentation
But I don't find that particular thing either.
Well, on here probably: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text&structure=Documentation fahmad: ok
thanks chibaguy chibaguy: you're welcome fahmad: ((Upgrade & Downgrade Procedure))
when i put this
it will show as it is
but i want it to be like wiki link
should i use ~np~&~/np~
not working either chibaguy: no, since it will be part of the url, it needs to be encoded. I don't know the encoding offhand. & in wiki page names (and so in urls) are tricky. fahmad: humm
ok chibaguy: Maybe &amp;
but I'd take the easy path and use ((Upgrade and Downgrade Procedure)) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: TOC plus structId and pagename params not working (v4.2)? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37636 chibaguy: Also see http://zukakakina.com/tiki-index.php?page=Ampersands+%26+S%2Fashes fahmad: chibaguy: lemme check chibaguy: It seems you can make a Tiki wiki page that has & in the page name, but then using the page name in a wiki page as a link doesn't work.
...as maybe one kind of encoding is needed for the url, but another kind as a link in a wiki page; I'm not sure exactly. The short answer is use 'and'. ;-) fahmad: not working :)
:D
right
chibaguy: btw when i add &lt; and &gt; on preview it showing right thing but when i save
it does not show me like this &lt;IfModule ssl_module&gt;
anyway to fix that ? chibaguy: I don't know, really. I haven't tested that kind of thing lately. ***: Neil_Melbourne_ has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) chibaguy: I can use ~np~^~/np~ in a wiki page to produce a < character.
I mean ~np~<~/np~
works in both preview and saved. fahmad: chibaguy: but its does not work with e.g. <IfModule test.c></IfModule> chibaguy: It worked for me, though it added a space after each bracket. fahmad: hold on chibaguy: I used ~np~<~/np~IfModule test.c~np~>~/np~~np~<~/np~/IfModule~np~>~/np~ fahmad: lemme try sir
:)
chibaguy: it works but you see it add extra space .. chibaguy: If the text doesn't have to be in-line, you can use the code plugin: {CODE()}<IfModule test.c></IfModule>{CODE}
but this is a div, so always starts on a new line and goes full width.
(a div with display: block) fahmad: ok
:) chibaguy: (I did a CODESPAN plugin a long time ago, which would format a code snippet within a line, as a span.
but don't know if it still works. fahmad: CODE & CODESPAN also remove <....>
:) chibaguy: Not for me: http://zukakakina.com/chrome_test&no_bl=y
I have to go. Will be back later. ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Forenproblem nach Upgrade - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=37641 ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: See you later! http://marclaporte.com) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Problem with forum after upgrade - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37642 luciash: fahmad: for ((Upgrade & Downgrade Procedure)) to make it work you need to enable "Full" for the Wiki Format links on Admin Home > Wiki ***: ionhead has joined #tikiwiki
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fahmad has quit IRC () chibaguy: Q. Why are there so few people answering questions in Tiki's forums?
A: One factor is that Tiki is a more complex program than most, and the questions tend to be harder to answer (i.e., fewer people have the knowledge, and the ones who do are busy adding to the complexity ricks99: A: because 75% of the Qs are already answered in the docs, the other 25% are very site-specific and posters usually do not provide enough info chibaguy: ;-). ricks99: A.2: developers prefer to *CODE* not *SUPPORT* chibaguy: good points, ricks99 ricks99: A.3: tiki forum has been *VERY* flaky past several weeks chibaguy: several weeks only? ;-) ricks99: lol -: ricks99 hopes chibaguy will support his effort to re-vamp the entire tiki forums chibaguy: I've been looking at the docs a bit more lately and it's amazing how fast they go out of date.
yeah, about the forums, whatever will improve things, I'm all for. ricks99: re docs: more than just out of date. i find the structure and organization quite unusable.
need really 2 types of "docs": what vs. how jonnyb: hi ricks99 & chibaguy chibaguy: hi jonnyb
Re version differences in docs, I kinda like how tabs work for this here: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Infinite_carousel
I guess as long as pages like this can print in a no-tabs view. jonnyb: i must agree about us coders avoiding the forums - i end up debugging and wanting to revamp them each time i go in and forget what i was there for ricks99: @jonnyb wanted to talk to u about ajax & accessbility issues chibaguy: yeah, it tends to be a time sink. ricks99: any way to notify screen readers of ajax updates?
using ajax causes a failrure of all web accessbility standards :( chibaguy: ricks99, do you find any info on that on ajax or jquery sites? jonnyb: good point ricks99 - short answer: don't know chibaguy: seems like it'd be a major issue. jonnyb: there must be a way ricks99: one more item to add to the list jonnyb: presumably they operate with javascript_enabled off?
in which case it should degrade ok (gracefully would be nice) ricks99: js can b accessible
thats what <snoscript> is for ***: robertp has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: ricks99, by ajax, do you mean asynchronous updates in th page? robertp: Anyone here good with math? ricks99: y. screen readers do not get notification that content area has changed
back to docs, tabbing works great, but no way to print structure + specific version. (i found that issue with smarties)
@jonnyb: as end-user, if i have js *on*, can I "opt out" of ajax? jonnyb: not currently afaik, ricks99 chibaguy: ricks99, well, can we print docs for a specific version now? only if it's on it's own page?
heh, robert, I guess not. ;-) ricks99: 1 page at a time by adding &tab=foo chibaguy: ah, ok ricks99: but, clicking print button does *not* automatially add it
(i logged a bug a while ago... was going to try to fix myself...) jonnyb: robertp: (following chat elsewhere) - looks like you need someone with financial maths ability. Not really my department ;) robertp: Thanks jonnyb
Ok guys, I'm looking to put net present value into jquery.sheet, and need some math help.
this is the main equasion that I've created that doesn't work all the way: result += values[i] / Math.pow((rate / 100) + 1, i); jonnyb: although from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value it looks like you have your array index mixed up with the "t" variable (where is "t"?) robertp: t is time
I was figuring each value would be an increment in time
I believe that is how it works in excel jonnyb: beyond me i'm afraid luciash: ricks99: cookietab=2 should work
ricks99: it stores in cookie, so in print page it should stay on the same tab
but you'd need to keep the same tabs and order for all versions of course ricks99: right. robertp: Jonny
jonnyb
sory jonnyb: here :) ricks99: would b fantastic to have some sort of ui on the print multi pages to select a version robertp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value what is Rt
the t is to the bottom of R
what does that mean?
I know when it's at the top it an exponent to the power of
but when at the bottom, I don't know jonnyb: is it not multiply? robertp: I don't know. jonnyb: ah, no (it's been a while...) - i think it is the index (i.e. the value of R at time t) robertp: Man I feel dumb jonnyb: welcome, you're not alone :D robertp: like value[i]?
value being an array of all the cells jonnyb: yes, so for a start replace your var i with a t robertp: result += values[t] / Math.pow((rate / 100) + 1, t);
;) jonnyb: ok, and your "rate" is the wikipedia "i"? robertp: result += values[t] / Math.pow((i / 100) + 1, t); jonnyb: robertp: looks good - working? robertp: It is close, but not close enough Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3465 - - TOC plus structId and pagename params not working (v4.2) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3465 robertp: Ok the formula is working correctly in that I get the correct value (or very close to it), but for some reason, it's not working like excel. jonnyb: what does this bit mean? "R0 is commonly placed to the left of the sum to emphasize its role as (minus) the investment" CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27823 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [NEW]discount: library to manage discount in payment robertp: If I run "=NPV(10,25000)" in sheet I get 22737, if I do it in excel I get 4166.67.
?
myn looks to be close to that on wikipedia
jonnyb - I ran "=NPV(10,B2:B8)" where column B represents the values from wikipedia, the result......
8,881.52
Exactly like wikipedia
I wonder what excel is doing...... jonnyb: so excel is wrong? robertp: I don't know jonnyb: surely not (these days) robertp: Do you have open office?
I'm downloading.
to test jonnyb: yes but need to get on with other stuff i'm afraid (unless you can send me an easy copy & paste test) robertp: No, my formula works correctly, Excel's npv formula isn't actually an npv, it is something else.
Thanks for your time
jonnyb, just fyi, if you use "=NPV(10,B1:B7)" rather than "=NPV(10%,B1:B7)" in excel you will not get npv for 10 percent.
My code is right, and is going to be submitted. jonnyb: :D robertp: Jonny, you know what would be cool? Is if we get updates from external svn's here ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki
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hi marclaporte marclaporte: polom jonnyb robertp: Marc - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/sheet13&parse=y&height=400px
The calculations are still a bit off, but some of the problems that I'm running into is that javascript doesn't support the same type of math.
and in order to fix it w/ copy past, we need a better way of regex to evaluate the formulas
javascript regex isn't very smart CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27824 10/branches/5.x/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX][MOD] A few more fixes for Firefox & IE textarea selection problems, also some refactoring of JS code from toolbarslib to tiki-jquery.js.
tikiwiki: More to do on IE (still)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27825 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [bp/r27821 & r27822][ENH] Added height parameter to wikiplugin_sheet.php & Added heights to sheets if edited from a page, for a smoother user interface jonnyb: robertp & marclaporte: you about? robertp: yea marclaporte: y jonnyb: i'm finally going to attach sheets again (refactoring etc) and would like to do it in 5.x so it goes into 5.1
it's nothing too heavy, and should fix quite a bit (we've also updated 5.x to use sheet 1.1, right?)
any reason you switched to using trunk, robertp?
everything seems to be pretty we identical at the moment (i just backported the height param thing)
so 5.x ok then? (and robertp - you switch back? should be ok...) robertp: I don't see any big problems,
I think it would be wise, then if we need to stay at a certain revision, just freeze it.
Marc has me working on more tiki stuff right now anyway. The only thing that I'm thinking is the min files aren't updated regularly, but you guys don't use those do you? jonnyb: nope, tiki minifies as it goes
btw, robertp, have you notices something (tiki JS) adds 100px to the sheet heights? robertp: yea
And we need to set the colMargin in sheet to be a few more pixels. jonnyb: which is for the edit stuff at the top robertp: During initialization sheet removes the table(s) from inside it-self to get an accurate height, then put's it back in.
Also, sometimes height can be a bit skewed by the menu + title at the top of the sheet jonnyb: indeed, that's why i just added some - i'll see if that's still needed robertp: Jonny were is your sheet save function stored?
javascript
$jq.sheet.saveSheet(true); jonnyb: in tiki-jquery.js robertp: go it
thanks
I want to preserve the height attribute if it was sent in the querystring....
where are you telling the page to reload? sylvieg: do we have a js fucntion to go to an anchor? robertp: after a save w/ sheet ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) jonnyb: sorry robertp - on phone, back soon robertp: i found it CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27827 10/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Moving smarty_setup.php to a better location
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27828 10/trunk/ (lib/init/smarty.php lib/setup/smarty.php tiki-setup.php): [MOD] Removing file with little purpose Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Moved to new host , having trouble setting index.php - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37650 jonnyb: hi robertp - back robertp: hey jonnyb: sylvieg: not that i know of (js fn for go to anchor)
robertp: are you now working on 5.x? robertp: I am trying to preserve height if it's set at the plugin level.
Should I be?
Or should I be in trunk
My website is in trunk, so I felt that I should be in trunk. jonnyb: becasue i am, and if we work on the same files in different branches we'll be in trouble robertp: So that we can tweak spreadsheet templates for Marc. jonnyb: why did you switch to trunk? for other tiki stuff?
i think these fixes/enhancements should go into 5.x
and merged also into trunk marclaporte: In general, spreasheets will likely change quickly because Robert is very quickly adding stuff.
So that's why I feel it's better in trunk
But it's great to backport if you feel it should be jonnyb: but aren't there a load of bugs in 5.0 to fix? Or are they all ok in 5.x now?
if i fix stuff in 5.x and robertp changes stuff in trunk we'll get a split (i won't have time to backport/manual merge everything) marclaporte: My feeling is that 5.x is good enough, and I prefer that we have the liberty of trunk.
perhaps surgical backports to 5.x? jonnyb: ok, will do... marclaporte: Tiki6 is coming soon anyway (!) jonnyb: too true :) robertp: Marc, did you get a chance to check out that spreadsheet that you sent me? - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/sheet13&parse=y&height=400px marclaporte: looking now ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27829 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Adding APC stats and hints in administration panel ***: mlaporte has joined #tikiwiki mlaporte: robertp: can the visual aspect be closer?
borders, colors, etc CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27830 10/trunk/ (lib/cache/cachelib.php tiki-admin_system.php): [FIX] Clear opcode cache when clearing template cache robertp: yes, but for some reason the sizes aren't being saved.
and color jonnyb: there's nowhere really in tiki-sheets back-end for that info (yet) robertp: We are using json to save the sheets right? jonnyb: yup robertp: I've updated the sheet json methods a bit to account for style, class, and dimensions. jonnyb: but it's home-brewed code as that wasn't working when i added .sheet at first (v.4ish) robertp: I saw that jonnyb: also, i'm saving the function differently i think
(sheet functions) robertp: Are there any quick ways that we can make saving those attributes possible? jonnyb: by the way - are you working on the tiki files now? (just had a conflict) robertp: Not that I've committed.
today jonnyb: ok, good
(except now i have a smarty breakage - don't think it's me) ***: Elvin has joined #tikiwiki robertp: someone moved it's location
smarty setup mlaporte: lph is doing more perf optimizations -: mlaporte is looking forward to speed tests! Elvin: Tiki 5.0: Created some groups with Admin, then when I use a SubAdmins user to add members, those groups I've created are not listed. - Thanks! ***: Wilkins_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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ionhead1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) jonnyb: robertp: i'm getting sheet save errors - save.html not found. Has the API for that changed?
(in trunk) robertp: I don't think so.
I'm using trunk and it's saving just fine. jonnyb: hmm, odd - must be my local changes (refactoring finally)
seems to be urlSave not getting set here ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) jonnyb: aha, it's with feature_ajax on
(dull) ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki chealer: polom
jonnyb: regarding your tikiwiki-devel mail, what do you mean by "if you add the common categories to the jail roots"? ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) jonnyb: hi chealer - i mean adding the id of (say) the Types category as another jailroot (you can have more than one) chealer: jonnyb: what is that supposed to do, limit objects displayed to those in all specified categories? jonnyb: well exactly - those are categories not involved in the jailroot thing chealer: i.e. if an object is not in one of the categories, it doesn't show? jonnyb: no, it shouldn't matter CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27835 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]discount: mysql error + check percent jonnyb: only the Department categs (in that example) should govern visibility per perspective chealer: jonnyb: you're saying a perspective can have several jail roots? jonnyb: yup, but that doesn't help here
they appear in the perspective as top level categs chealer: jonnyb: if you have a single jail root, that category should become the root category, no? jonnyb: yes ***: guilherme88 has joined #tikiwiki
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rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27836 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]trackerlist: option to use radio and not checkbox robertp: mlaporte, I'm waiting for the guys at openoffice to tell me how to access their formula source to fix and add new formulas, it's just taking to long, I didn't didn't go to school for math, I went for programming. ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) robertp: In the mean time, what other spreadsheets would you like added to tiki? chealer: jonnyb: so how does it work when there are several jailroots? which one is the perspective's root category? jonnyb: all of them - well, they're all on the "top" level
basically (to me) it means if you use categories for perspectives you sort of can't use it for anything else chealer: jonnyb: OK, so if you have a perspective with a category jail set to category 1 and you add category 2 to the category jail, you're only adding objects to those that will be displayed, right? jonnyb: as far as i understand it chealer: jonnyb: OK, I think I understand your mail jonnyb: can you do a reply explaining how you worked out what i meant? might help others ;)
maybe it needs something like a way of ignoring categs that aren't "in" any jailroot cats at all chealer: jonnyb: what does that mean: if not, then listing one of the Types, say Course notes, brings up the pages for all three perspectives (or none at all, depending on object type)
if you're in a perspective, the course notes in your perspective's category should display, shouldn't it? jonnyb: yes, but if you list "course notes" cater you either get all of them, or none
you should get just the stuff that's also in your jailroot
i think chealer: jonnyb: right
jonnyb: so that's just a bug, no? jonnyb: well, it's "existing behaviour" - and you know tiki ;)
i thought i though check before trying to "fix" it
also, it's really difficult, so i was hoping someone else would come up with a nice, clean solution (and do it)
robertp: you were asking about changing the CSS in your tiki - a good place to start is http://themes.tikiwiki.org/CSS robertp: I found it chealer: jonnyb: IMO, that and "if someone in a department perspective edits and saves a page, it will no longer be categorised as Course notes." are simply bugs robertp: I was looking for a clean way to integrate my skin w/ jqui jonnyb: robertp: i guess making a custom.css in the styles subdir you are using
exacto chealer: I don't see a solution other than finding what's going wrong and fixing it. jonnyb: i got more or less there then went on my travels - will need to find it again
somewhere in categlib i think
$categlib->getSqlJoin() - line 1284 in trunk
i think it should be something to do with the $categId['AND'] line, which _appears_ to be unused, but it seems to do the "blending" in the wrong order chealer: hehe, sounds possible but I'm not sure I want to dig in that code :-) not right now anyway. jonnyb: scaredy cat (me too ;) )
sounds like a sylvieg thing to me :) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: List of Version 0 Pages - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37655 chealer: jonnyb: perhaps a "solution" would be to complain to lphuberdeau :-) jonnyb: tried that... chealer: jonnyb: from memory getSqlJoin() is a lphuberdeau thing from TikiFestBarcelona or around jonnyb: i think that little ['AND'] bit was sylvieg - he just added the jailroot check
but wasn't clear either what the section does - so he defaulted to safe chealer: or, perhaps sylvieg added support for several categories, yeah, I don't know sylvieg: what is the troubel? chealer: hi sylvieg jonnyb: hi sylvieg - categ jailroot stuff, i'm afraid chealer: hehe jonnyb: did you see my mail to devels? sylvieg: yes but I did not have a clue
I never worked really with perspective ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: have you got a few minutes for this now? sylvieg: which commit are refering? jonnyb: it was a very long time ago - i couldn't find the exact commit
but it's $categlib->getSqlJoin() - line 1284 in trunk
specifically the block after "if (isset( $categId['AND'] )" (line 1294) sylvieg: but what AND has something to do with your problem? jonnyb: the AND bit doesn't seem to be used anywhere, so should be safe to change, but the cater searches when jailrooted would need changing
the categs in the 'AND' bit can be outside a user's jail (i think)
as long as it's categorised in _one_ of my jails, i should be able to see it, no?
at the moment it has to be in all
so maybe i mean 'OR', rather than 'AND'
(but AND my jails) -: jonnyb knows he isn't good at this stuff sylvieg: but where do the jail receive and array with anAND?
the OR should be done with a list od categId? jonnyb: i doesn't currently, which is why you can't have shared/common categs sylvieg: so it is get_jail that must be corrected? jonnyb: could be
but that's probably used elsewhere for other reasons sylvieg: did you see in tikilib // if jail is zero, we should allow non-categorized objects to be seen as well, i.e. consider as no jail
it means that ??? if jail is not zero ... who do not allow other categ? robertp: A testament to how well tiki and jqui work with outside themes - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About
mlaporte, jonnyb - please check link
Of coarse it's not done, but very shortly I will be migrating my existing site to this one.
Very fun stuff chealer: sylvieg: what? robertp: I didn't touch jqui at all, just used custom.css sylvieg: chealer: I do not know - I try to understand..
what is the generated query jonnyb in your site? jonnyb: sorry - back (door) sylvieg: the object must be in the jailed category and the descendants or the object must not be in other jailed categories jonnyb: sylvieg: i was trying to get articles to do jailed stuff properly (can't recall exact path - list_articles() probably)
yes, which means you have to duplicate all your common categories for each perspective (and tiki grinds to a halt eventually)
also the category picker becomes unusable sylvieg: can you do a perspecitive with n categories jonnyb: yes sylvieg: because if you can do a perspective like A , current categs
in your case Physics, Type
.. ok but we wil see the other ... sorry chealer: I don't understand what that means: the object must be in the jailed category and the descendants or the object must not be in other jailed categories jonnyb: but then physics persp can see all Type categorised object (even for other persps) sylvieg: yes jonnyb - I got it jonnyb: so i thought that 'AND' section might be a good place to do it -: sylvieg needs a test to see jonnyb: or maybe (better) fix get_jailed so it doesn't filter out categs (or descendants of) which aren't in a jailroot (or descendants) - messy sylvieg: problably your last points
s/point jonnyb: robertp finally: nice and very quick work on http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About (background image a bit busy for my liking tho' ;) ) robertp: You are right
I'm workin on it. CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27837 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-last_modified_blogs.php: global sylvieg: it is bloody - I activated perspective and it is buuged jonnyb: oh? so quick sylvieg? chealer: BTW, I tried the perspectives GUI on Tampa and that worked pretty well - on my 5.x it's almost worthless, I don't understand why. sylvieg: all the blogs last commits are buggy chealer: and by trying I mean I just saw the fields were showing properly, which doesn't happen on my local 5.x Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Announcing the Formation of the Florida Tiki User Group - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article98-Announcing-the-Formation-of-the-Florida-Tiki-User-Group ***: mlaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27838 10/trunk/modules/ (5 files): global
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tikiwiki: Also fix for feature_jquery_sheet==n when feature_ajax==y robertp: jonnyb, did I mention that "Jonny B. Good" is one of my favorit songs to play on the guitar? jonnyb: i look forward to a rendition of it sometime - you coming to New York? robertp: One last time - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/About
css tweak to nearly done jonnyb: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestNewYork6 CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27840 10/trunk/lib/ (6 files in 5 dirs): global luciash: that "page flashing" in FF 3.6 is terrible robertp: luciash, are you talking about my page? luciash: talking about Tiki 5 on tw.o actually robertp: ok
thanks jonnyb: hi luciash - i was getting that but if i disabled firebug (in the addons control) it went away, so decided i could live with it
(actually couldn't find a fix for it) luciash: jonnyb: ah, i didn't know it is firebug related. i will try disable it too jonnyb: seemed to go away for me (but only if you effectively remove the plugin - not just switch it "off" for that site) sylvieg: :-( I can not have perspective working jonnyb: sylvieg: did you try running the profile?
jail_demo or something luciash: jonnyb: trying [Disable] button in Addons prefs now sylvieg: I should probably jonnyb: worked last time i tried it luciash: jonnyb: seems to help
jonnyb: but it is really a pity, because i need firebug jonnyb: there's something in tiki that firefox really doesn't like luciash: jonnyb: i will be forced to use chrome to develop then i guess jonnyb: maybe connected to the textarea selection issue
i'm using the new safari - very impressive (but no linux i guess) luciash: i wonder why it does on http://tikiwiki.org/Home though (no textarea iirc there)
it flashes whole page twice, then the both left and right columns until it "settles down" jonnyb: seems ok for me (as anon) luciash: nevermind, switching Chrome to be my default browser now jonnyb: looks ok logged on too chealer: luciash: yes, Marc had it during a demonstration in Montreal :-( luciash: i am logged in and it's ok with firebug disabled chealer: I doubt he had Firebug jonnyb: i'm getting JS errors now :(
starting with document.getElementById("twitter_update_list") is null luciash: it is interesting that i have YSlow enabled still and it works even without Firebug (i thought YSlow was Firebug dependent) jonnyb: me2 luciash: that twitter thingie was in trunk only i guess
(shoutox integration)
*shoutbox jonnyb: think so
but it's trying to do something with blogger.js from twitter.com luciash: i have web developer addon enabled too, btw
jonnyb: you talk about tw.o site too ? jonnyb: yup luciash: maybe it's only the twitter button then there
not tiki's error jonnyb: it's called from twitterCallback2() somewhere (anonymous function) chealer: I don't seem to get flickering on that page, either logged in or as anonymous, in Firefox 3.6.6, with Firebug or not jonnyb: no js errors chealer? luciash: weird sylvieg: jonnyb: onm a fresh install with the profile demo_jail - I added a category other - put the page A in A and other, I activated the perspective A and no problem chealer: jonnyb: I do get 3 JS errors, like you jonnyb: sylvieg: but what if you browse categ other? chealer: luciash: I remember flickering was very weird indeed. I had Flickering from Firefox 3.6 on Windows but not on Iceweasel 3.5 (Debian). nor with Iceweasel 3.6 I believe sylvieg: i can not browse other when I am in perspective A jonnyb: chealer: i think those would be responsible for Bad Things (like jquery not getting initialised right)
if you have the direct url, sylvieg? sylvieg: what do you mean? jonnyb: e.g. tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId=3&deep=on luciash: oh, damn, i get the flickering again... it seems it only happens when i try to scroll the page until it is fully loaded or something chealer: jonnyb: indeed...the last 2 errors sound familiar, at least one must be caused by another jonnyb: i'm not getting the 2nd and 3rd on other tiki's chealer: luciash: did you get the 3 JS errors? -: jonnyb apologises for the rogue apostrophe luciash: if i don't scroll down the page it doesn't seem to flicker during load chealer: jonnyb: I'm sure I've seen the second one at least 2 times and thought "damn, wasn't that error fixed" the second time. luciash: chealer: yes jonnyb: other two sites seem ok - http://info.tikiwiki.org sylvieg: jonnyb: working perfectly with browse others I can see the apge A in perspective A jonnyb: oh? sylvieg: on a clean install only ;-) jonnyb: maybe it's other object types (i know articles aren't quite done) sylvieg: perhaps jonnyb: what if you edit that page inside the persp - for me it uncategorises it from the common ones chealer: luciash: are you getting that as anonymous? luciash: as logged in chealer: luciash: try anonymous, the different user preferences could make a difference sylvieg: jonnyb: for me too
so this is the bug... jonnyb: well, a feature disappointment maybe ;) sylvieg: or the categ block must show the jail and the non jailed jonnyb: yes, it's tricky luciash: chealer: as anonymous only one (the twitter one) jonnyb: i think that would be better - only remove cats that are in other perspectives maybe chealer: luciash: OK but do you see the flickering? sylvieg: no I did not lost the categs...
sorry jonnyb: oh, good sylvieg: but I can not asiign categories that are not in the jail
so it is only to fix the categorize.php jonnyb: i'm sure there were more issues with common categories though sylvieg: btw jonnyb you missed the utf8 meeting - a big piece of trouble jonnyb: the only way seemed to be to have copy cats in each jailed categ
yes, it seemed like it to me
but not only for us - many php/mysql apps have the same legacy issue it seems luciash: chealer: nope, because i disabled YSlow too sylvieg: actually - yes the copy of categ seem to be the only sol jonnyb: the tool i use for mysql locally has an encoding mode called "utf-8 via latin1"
which works luciash: chealer: as logged in i get the 3 errors too chealer: luciash: OK, I don't know about YSlow
that's a strange mode luciash: same errors in JS console of Chrome
eh, it happens again with other pages in my FF ***: FrankP_away has joined #tikiwiki luciash: maybe when the page was cached it didn't flicker anymore, but when i went now to some other page (fresh one i didn't visit before) it happens to flicker again even with Firebug and YSlow off
i am fed up of those mysterious things
switching to chrome now chealer: luciash: are you on Ubuntu? luciash: yep chealer: luciash: oh, right, Ubuntu has Firefox. I thought for a moment it had Iceweasel luciash: chealer: np, thank you, don't waste your time with that now ***: FrankP_away is now known as FrankP_german
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Since last visit module showing old stuff. cached lastLogin is not properly maintained
tikiwiki: r23192 regression, worsened in r25341
tikiwiki: Ref: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37611
tikiwiki: https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4B7983EE.3040006%40prager.ws&forum_name=tikiwiki-devel
tikiwiki: Thanks Bernd Prager and Emmett
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