#tikiwiki 2010-07-06,Tue

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chibaguy	This is neat for image display: http://herr-schuessler.de/blog/jquerypopeye-an-inline-lightbox-alternative/ The image is inline instead of displaying in a popup box. I didn't try a Tiki implementation yet but want to. Demo page: http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/demo.html	[04:29]
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ricks99	Good morning all :-)	[10:25]
luciash	hello	[10:26]
ricks99	hi luciash	[10:28]
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ricks99	wtf? just svn'd up (5.x branch) ... all my images are missing? {img fileId="1" .... } is showning blank :-( file is in the file gallery	[11:23]
jonnyb	hi ricks99 - that could be the encoding thing i found in trunk the other day somehow (while i was away) all pages now seem to be html encoded in the database so " becomes "	[11:30]
ricks99	hm...	[11:31]
jonnyb	not good	[11:31]
ricks99	all i did was svn up on 5.x branch. didn't actually uplaod any new files is there a fix?	[11:31]
jonnyb	if you use the plugin popup form (not in edit mode) you should see the problem in the plugin params	[11:32]
ricks99	looks fine in the plugin editor..... fileid = 1	[11:33]
jonnyb	oh... not that then and if you save it does it get fixed? or worse?	[11:36]
ricks99	going to try to re-upload/replace one and see....	[11:36]
jonnyb	i'll try locally	[11:36]
ricks99	hm... replacing via file gallery "REPLACE" works fine ricks99 hoping he doesn't have to re-upload all the images.... :( im storing wiki images in file gallery -- in a directory -- not db	[11:40]
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jonnyb	might this be the dreaded utf-8 encoding thing? can you see the files in the filegals ok, ricks99 ? or nowhere?	[11:42]
ricks99	the file exists, but cannot download or display popup preview i have the utf stuff commented out in myu local.php	[11:43]
jonnyb	not good - still updating locally hmm, all my 5.x files seem ok	[11:44]
ricks99	my file gallery images were uploaded pripr to svning up im tyring to go thru the upgrade script now... i don't see how/what it would have changed in my file gallery tables	[11:47]
jonnyb	it's not an .htaccess thing is it?	[11:48]
ricks99	no	[11:49]
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ricks99	very confused... .when storing images in the directory, encoding should not be an issue --tiki stores only the location of the file, right? looking in the db at tiki_files table...	[11:51]
jonnyb	wasn't there something on devels about the names of the files being messed up somehow?	[11:51]
ricks99	the PATH column is correct -- that is, I have a filename with the PATH encoding name	[11:52]
jonnyb	that might have been attached files though	[11:52]
talin	hello. i was here yesterday asking how to put pictures on a tikiwiki page... without formatting. someone suggested {img src="bleh.png"}, but it doesn't seem to work here	[11:52]
ricks99	what is the HASH column? some sort of checksum?	[11:52]
talin	{IMG(src="jer.png", alt="jer")/} that doesn't display anything	[11:53]
ricks99	@talin: Your syntax is incorrect. Use {img src="foo.png" alt="foo"} Pls see docs for details http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Images @jonnyb: as long as the PATH is correct, should it work just fine? what is HASH for?	[11:54]
jonnyb	i think the hash is the (real) filename	[11:55]
ricks99	ah... so it doesnt matter at all then, just a display thing?	[11:55]
talin	ricks99: hmm, then why doesn't it display an image?	[11:56]
ricks99	jonnyb: all the fields in the db look correct	[11:57]
talin	ricks99: err, i mean. okay. i did it just like you.. and then it displays the Alt text only	[11:57]
ricks99	@talin: the syntax you are using is incorrect	[11:57]
jonnyb	and the filenames match the hash field? and have data in (prsumably, the update wouldn't change them)	[11:57]
ricks99	the filename is listed correcgtly when i list the gallery	[11:58]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27873 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]rollback 27872: no simple solution without rewriting plugin parsing: please use ~np~ in ~tc~ when you do not want to shorten parsing	[11:58]
ricks99	no data... BLOB 0kb	[11:58]
jonnyb	no, i mean the real filename of the file, not the name of the file you originally uploaded can you get to your apache errors log?	[11:58]
talin	ricks99: i understand. if i click on the image after i upload it, it automatically inserts: {img fileId="41" thumb="y" alt="" rel="box[g]"}. how can i translate that to non-formatted?	[11:59]
jonnyb	might show something	[11:59]
ricks99	the filename in the db (PATH column) matches the actual filenam in the directory @talin: {img fileId="41"} pls see docs for full detais details hm... but if I try to load the file from the directory into my image software, i get a "not a vlid PNG" error :-( it should* load, right? all tiki does is tweak the name	[11:59]
jonnyb	you on windows? try adding the extension (.jpg etc)	[12:01]
ricks99	did wait...	[12:01]
talin	ricks99: thank you. and yes, i have read the documentation, but {img fileID="41"} doesn't display anyhting ricks99: without rel="box[g]", it doesn't display anything at all...	[12:02]
ricks99	@talin: confirm that u have perm to use file gallery/download images	[12:04]
talin	ricks99: oh, there's permission differences with and without rel="box[g]" and not. i'll check	[12:05]
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ricks99	jonnyb: even if i change the extension, still cannot open file in my editor afraid something is screwed up :(	[12:05]
jonnyb	i can't see hjow the database update script can have affected any files on the system (apart from mysql ones) do oyu have a backup of the files? if so try a compare?	[12:06]
ricks99	hm...maybe simply changing extgesnion is not enuf. i just updated/repalced an image. it appears fine in tiki. if i rename the filename to *.png, i cannot open in my editor	[12:09]
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ricks99	guess need to re-uplaod?	[12:11]
jonnyb	ok, but odd	[12:11]
ricks99	<sigh>	[12:11]
jonnyb	that sounds wrong can you keep a copy of the old "broken" files? We'll need to work out what's gone wrong here somehow	[12:11]
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ricks99	gonna try to "switch all to db".... can't hurt...	[12:12]
jonnyb	good idea...	[12:15]
lzdzhy	my tkiwki5 show chinese words as "???",After update from tiki5beta2 to tiki5.WHY?	[12:15]
talin	pwd ls	[12:16]
lzdzhy	??	[12:19]
Tikiwiki\|bot	??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]	[12:19]
ricks99	@lzdzhy: character encoding issue. Pls see release notes @jonnyb: now some images are back, but not others. have no idea at this point	[12:19]
jonnyb	doesn't sound good	[12:22]
lzdzhy	tikiwiki\|bot,under tikiwiki beta 2, chinese words shows normal	[12:22]
jonnyb	there have been some less than ideal things gone into tiki recently... makes it hard to keep up	[12:22]
lzdzhy	but i don't understand why	[12:23]
ricks99	@lzdzhy: see the release notes it is a char encoding issue	[12:24]
lzdzhy	thanks	[12:24]
ricks99	fully explained, including the fix, in release notes	[12:24]
lzdzhy	bye	[12:25]
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j0n3	How can I enable category tab when editing/creating wiki page for users in a group? I've tried to assign perms on global and categories but no result cleared cache and now disabled cache	[12:26]
luciash	j0n3: "when editing/creating wiki page for users in a group?"	[12:28]
j0n3	I'm spanish, sorry if I can't explain better	[12:29]
luciash	j0n3: i don't understand what is different on it than creating "normal" wiki page	[12:29]
j0n3	I have a user who should create documents i've set "Category is mandatory" as there will be users like clients and partners... to prevent content created being viewed by them (they only view their "client" and "partner" categories) but when "User" create wiki, tiki doesn't show categories tab to select i mean... I'm creating a corporate wiki clients - partners - internal <- these are both categories and groups "internal" users can access all (clients-partner-internal) but only create docs under "internal" clients and partners can only view their respective categories, but no more so... when an "internal" user creates a page, Mandatory says "You must set category", but no way to do it for that user...	[12:29]
luciash	i think you can auto-assign category to content created by user in chosen group it is somewhere in the preferences (i have stumbled upon it recently iirc)	[12:34]
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j0n3	I've tried that the first, but that mandatory rule says the same Creating document is not possible, even i've set all perms to group of users, reset all perms, made every combination.... never worked my version is tiki 5.0	[12:35]
luciash	ah, i don't know then about the mandatory i am sorry, i don't use that feature would it be an option to switch the "mandatory" off ?	[12:36]
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j0n3	maybe luciash i'm scared about what users could do... ;) they are double left-handed	[12:40]
talin	ricks99: we added a bunch of permissions now, and i still can't see any images that don't have rel=box[g]	[12:43]
ricks99	@jonnyb: now getting: Warning: exif_imagetype() PNG file currupted by ASCII conversion in ...../lib/images/abstract.php on line 22 and tons of others with getimagesize() @talin: not sure. are u storing images in directory or database?	[12:45]
luciash	j0n3: :) hopefully if you limit them by category perms and subset of categories they can assign, it will be ok	[12:48]
j0n3	thank you luciash. I will keep trying... it's very annoying as i have spend lot of hours with this	[12:50]
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luciash	i very well understand this, good luck and thanks	[12:51]
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talin	ricks99: i'm using the gallery ricks99: i'm not sure if that one uses a database by default	[12:54]
ricks99	check on admin: file gallery	[12:55]
talin	ricks99: i'm a subadmin user, but i can't see anyhting about gallery type there ricks99: hmm, i found a clue. when i click the image in the gallery, i get: Table 'tikiwiki.tiki_users_score' doesn't exist	[12:57]
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ricks99	sounds like ur isntallation is missing db tables. try re-running the installer to update the db	[13:02]
talin	ricks99: okay, thank you	[13:03]
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luciash	hi chibaguy	[13:06]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[13:07]
luciash	the jquery popeye is nice, but GPL "only" it would need to be a plugin calling the script remotely imho	[13:07]
chibaguy	yeah, I saw about the license.	[13:14]
talin	ricks99: i changed it from "database" to "directory" now ricks99: then i logged out and back in, and tried to reupload the image again. same problem :(	[13:15]
chibaguy	ricks99, if you use the plugin insert form in the wiki editor, it creates syntax like {IMG(src="")}{IMG}. That's why I suggested trying it. and it does work for me in my branch 5.	[13:16]
talin	maybe i'll have to link to the images on an external site if that's possible	[13:18]
chibaguy	http://zukakakina.com/Img+syntax+test	[13:23]
talin	chibaguy: interestingly, that pic shows up just not the ones i upload	[13:26]
luciash	talin: is it PNG ? indexed or 24bit alpha ?	[13:27]
talin	luciash: PNG yes luciash: hmm, i'll try to check	[13:27]
chibaguy	uh, yeah. ;-) I tested it before I suggested it.	[13:28]
luciash	maybe it doesn't work well with the other color depth or maybe your image editor adds some oddity to the image header which GD can't understand	[13:28]
talin	ah, could be	[13:29]
chibaguy	talin, also, you could look at the page source, to see if the image syntax is being formed properly.	[13:31]
talin	chibaguy: hmm, good idea :)	[13:31]
chibaguy	like <img src="img/tiki/tikilogo.png" alt="old tiki logo" /> On another topic, what's the way to add an outside jquery javascript in L&F admin?	[13:32]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy - i used custom.js last time i did that	[13:35]
chibaguy	ah, ok. I was wondering if the L&F textareas worked for that at all.	[13:36]
jonnyb	using $jq.getScript() i guess you could do that in custom footer?	[13:36]
talin	as long as i upload and show	[13:37]
chibaguy	jonnyb, how do you mean using $jq.getScript() ?	[13:37]
talin	it shows up as <a class="linkmodule" ...> and it shows... only it's very ugly with a black instead fo transparent bg	[13:37]
jonnyb	it includes a js file from within js	[13:38]
chibaguy	ah	[13:38]
talin	if i remove the rel="box[g]", everything disappears	[13:38]
	hmm, i'll keep trying tomorrow. thanks for the help so far	[13:43]
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chibaguy	jonnyb, does this seem correct: using the JS plugin to link to a jquery script won't work because it loads before the main jquery js ? (ie, wikitext loads before the page end)	[13:45]
jonnyb	oh yes, all the includes are at the bottom now try the $jq.getScript() in a {JQ} plugin maybe?	[13:47]
chibaguy	how do I specify the external javascript?	[13:48]
jonnyb	http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getScript/	[13:48]
chibaguy	Where does custom.js go, only in a theme's directory? yep that works, location-wise; now to see why the script isn't working.	[13:57]
jonnyb	either in /styles/ (for global) or in /styles/yourtheme/ for just that one (etc)	[14:01]
chibaguy	ok, thanks.	[14:01]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27874 10/branches/5.x/tiki-view_sheets.php: tikiwiki: [bp/r27845, r27842, r27834] Backports from trunk for jquery.sheet tikiwiki: [FIX] Sheets: Correct saving of subsheets created within jquery.sheet tikiwiki: [FIX] Sheet: Save broken when using feature_ajax. Also prep for multi-instance saves (more to come) tikiwiki: [FIX] Changed $style variable that gave height to div for sheet plugin to $tiki_sheet_div_style and added height to $auto_query_args	[14:40]
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pascalstjean	Good day everyone, FYI tikiwiki.org is down for me right now	[15:39]
jonnyb	hi pascalstjean	[15:48]
pascalstjean	hi Jonny	[15:48]
jonnyb	tw.o seems ok for me	[15:49]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.	[15:49]
pascalstjean	Community and Profiles work for me. Dev, Doc and Themes are timing out	[15:53]
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jonnyb	polom xavi	[16:00]
xavi	polom jonny :-)	[16:01]
jonnyb	just trying to get cclite adduser working	[16:01]
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jonnyb	unfortunately it seems to let you create multiple identical users :(	[16:04]
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ricks99	tw.o down for me, too	[16:14]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.	[16:14]
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FF\|Skyrider	So whats up with tikiwiki site? Seems to be down for a whole day now	[17:30]
luciash	FF\|Skyrider: sorry, no clue yet	[17:36]
FF\|Skyrider	Also down for you?	[17:37]
luciash	FF\|Skyrider: not whole day iirc ;)	[17:37]
FF\|Skyrider	Well, at least for the last 4 hours for me :p	[17:37]
luciash	yep	[17:37]
FF\|Skyrider	I noticed the site is down often randomly :(	[17:37]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27877 10/trunk/lib/payment/cclitelib.php: [FIX] Cclite: Better error handling and reporting (e.g. of inactive cclite user etc).	[17:37]
FF\|Skyrider	btw tikiwiki or mediawiki :)	[17:38]
luciash	guess what	[17:39]
FF\|Skyrider	its up?	[17:39]
luciash	wrong channel to ask such question ;)	[17:39]
FF\|Skyrider	XD Opinion question	[17:39]
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luciash	tw.o is online, doc.tw.o + dev and info is down	[18:07]
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jrand	In the business theme, how do I shift the menu items in the left column further left?	[18:13]
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luciash	jrand: try #col2 ul {margin-left: -5px; padding-left: -5px} jrand: in Admin Home > Look & Feel > Miscelaneous > Custom CSS jrand: Tiki 5	[18:24]
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jrand	luciash: Yes! Tiki 5. Modifying #col2 ul as you suggested does not change the menu item positions.	[18:45]
luciash	jrand: hmm, i see, try to use "#Application_Menu" instead of "#col2 ul" margin-left: -5px should be enough	[18:48]
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jrand	luciash: Thanks. Your original suggestion worked. I just needed a higher px for the shift to be visible. Thanks again.	[18:52]
luciash	ah :)	[18:53]
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luciash	*.tw.o subdomains are back !	[18:57]
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chealer	I discussed the problem with ViewVC revision logs stopping at branch points with SourceForge. cross_copies was probably disabled when they upgraded to ViewVC 1.1, but now trying to enable it breaks revision logs, so they apparently won't enable it. #sourceforge suggested to use trac instead. could we enable the trac instance for tiki?	[19:12]
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^Migs^	Is there a script that converts from mediawiki to tikiwiki? ideally one that lets you select which versions of each page to include?	[21:07]
luciash	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Mediawiki+Importer	[21:09]
^Migs^	oh there it is. Why didn't I see that before? Thanks!	[21:09]
luciash	:)	[21:10]
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^Migs^	another question: Is there a way to delete the entire revision history of a page (except for the current version)?	[21:18]
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ricks99	@^Migs^: Yes. When veiwing the page history, simply select all revisions and click DEL.	[22:05]
^Migs^	ah, perfect. Thanks!	[22:06]
	um do I have to do it one-by-one? What if I have 3000 revisions?	[22:11]
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	my import removed all the newline characters :(	[22:32]
sylvieg	Perhaps it is only display - check the param in admin->wiki - formatting	[22:33]
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^Migs^	okay	[22:49]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Upgrade to Tiki 5 fails with "System Error" - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37709	[23:28]
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	Caarrie\|away is now known as Caarrie	[23:56]

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