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[01:21] <TorstenFabricius> I got it!!
[01:21] <TorstenFabricius> luciash and all, I got it
[01:22] <TorstenFabricius> err made it
[01:22] <TorstenFabricius> contextual menu is working!
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[01:23] <TorstenFabricius> now I have to make it nice and then I can write that down in the docs
[01:23] <TorstenFabricius> thx everybody, who gave me any advice
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[01:43] <TorstenFabricius> another question
[01:44] <TorstenFabricius> let´s say, I have two different websites
[01:45] <TorstenFabricius> I would like to get severeral pages of the one site into the textarea of the other Site
[01:45] <TorstenFabricius> just link them in, like they would be origin pages of the second Site
[01:45] <TorstenFabricius> what feature I would need?
[01:46] <TorstenFabricius> -> I do not want to include the whole first site with navigation and header (<iframe>) but only the text; especially wikipages
[01:47] <TorstenFabricius> is that possible in a more or less easy way?
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[03:40] <chealer> community (tikiwiki.org) seems to be down
[05:41] <chealer> I reported that to #tikinoc. it also means we can't log in on *.tw.o
[05:47] <chealer> does anyone have SSH access to profiles.tikiwiki.org?
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[09:31] <TorstenFabricius> good morning
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[11:20] <TorstenFabricius> I have a problem in formating/designing my custom top-menu
[11:24] <TorstenFabricius> I did put in the code for it into admin -> look and feel -> general layout -> top bar -> custom code
[11:24] <luciash> hi
[11:25] <TorstenFabricius> then I did name it <div id="tiki-top"> {menu id=43 ....
[11:25] <TorstenFabricius> technically it works fine
[11:27] <TorstenFabricius> the background is now the same as of the standart top-bar, formatted in the template, but the font, the fontcolour and the alignment is different
[11:27] <TorstenFabricius> hi luciash
[11:28] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: isn't it now twice there in the rendered source of the page ?
[11:28] <TorstenFabricius> yes, if I do not uncheck the top-bar
[11:29] <TorstenFabricius> if I uncheck the topbar, it is fine and only the new one appears
[11:30] <luciash> ah, ok, you have to use some tool like Google Chrome's "Inspect element" and check out what classes are applied for your custom top menu
[11:33] <TorstenFabricius> when I take the original code from the documentation (only the first half applies for the top-bar-custom-code)and change the menu id to 43, I have a "naked" menu included all items
[11:34] <luciash> btw, i noticed yesterday after reviewing the doc page that you don't have to use the CSS code (it applies only for Tiki 2.x)
[11:36] <TorstenFabricius> when I then change the original div id to "tiki-top" (like the top-bar in the template seems to be named), the custom top-bar gets the background of the original top-bar and the standart-template font and fontweight, but not the font and fontcolour of the original top-bar
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[11:37] <TorstenFabricius> we have a custom theme, that we changed by our selves, so it may turn out, that we made a fault there
[11:37] <TorstenFabricius> could you send me a link to the doc, where you did find that, please, luciash?
[11:39] <TorstenFabricius> luciash: "... some tool like Google Chrome's "Inspect element" and check out what classes are applied ..." <- do not really know what and how, could you elaborate please?
[11:39] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3497 - - new zend recaptcha not displying in trunk when user tracker enabled  - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3497
[11:39] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: no, i mean on the link you provided i found out it is mentioned the CSS code is necessary to add only for version 2.0 or something
[11:39] <TorstenFabricius> ah
[11:40] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: do you use Google Chrome browser ?
[11:40] <TorstenFabricius> mom
[11:40] <TorstenFabricius> no, I use firefox and for checking I use ie and safari
[11:40] <TorstenFabricius> Google Chrome I do not have
[11:41] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: and in Firefox do you have installed some developer add-on ?
[11:41] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: like Web Developer or Firebug
[11:41] <TorstenFabricius> not yet
[11:41] <luciash> they're very useful to explore the page's code
[11:41] <TorstenFabricius> actually a new pc with nearly no addons yet
[11:41] <TorstenFabricius> ok
[11:42] <TorstenFabricius> I´ll get one - wich one you would recommend for a noob ;-) ?
[11:42] <luciash> so to find out what CSS classes or ids are used or overwritten by other rules it is very handy
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[11:43] <luciash> Firebug is more popular i think
[11:44] <TorstenFabricius> ah, yes - the second section with "required css classes" applies to tiki 2 -> just overread, thx
[11:45] <ricks99> hi all :-)
[11:45] <TorstenFabricius> hi ricks99
[11:47] <ricks99> hi TorsetnFabricius
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[12:21] <Kimberlee> hello
[12:21] <TorstenFabricius> hi Kimberlee
[12:22] <TorstenFabricius> with luciashs help, I got my contextual menu running
[12:23] <TorstenFabricius> now I am getting firebug for firefox and such stuff for finishing up with classes and so on
[12:24] <luciash> hi Kimberlee 
[12:33] <Kimberlee> great!  sorry about my connection problems.
[12:33] <Kimberlee> I've had a lot of those lately.  :-o
[12:39] <ricks99> Hi Kimberlee
[12:45] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28081 10/trunk/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX]perms : typo in 28004 'Creator are admins of their wiki pages'. was this ever been tested before?
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[12:46] <Kimberlee> mornin' ricks99 & luciash
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[13:01] <RavenC> happy Wednesday to all!
[13:02] <TorstenFabricius> big time RavenC
[13:02] * ricks99 is back from vacation... feels like a monday to to him
[13:03] * RavenC is jealous of the word "vacation" !!
[13:05] <ricks99> :-)
[13:22] <luciash> tw.o down ? unable to contact remote server when trying to login to dev.tw.o
[13:22] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.
[13:35] <RavenC> luciash, I can get in with no issue
[13:36] <luciash> http://tikiwiki.org/Home
[13:36] <luciash> can't connect
[13:36] <luciash> you can get in dev.tw.o ?
[13:36] <luciash> s/get in/log in/
[13:37] <RavenC> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php ... i ma logged in yes
[13:37] <RavenC> the tikiwiki.org times out on me
[13:37] <luciash> if you were already logged in before you're lucky ;)
[13:37] <luciash> this applies on new logins
[13:38] <RavenC> i see.  Yes, I was previously logged in
[13:38] <luciash> i mean i wasn't logged in and it doesn't let me in now
[13:38] <luciash> now how to quick-contact oliver ?
[13:38] <RavenC> yes, I logged out and cannot log in now as well
[13:38] <luciash> we need tw.o up
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[14:16] <chealer> luciash: [2010-07-20 23:40:10] <chealer> community (tikiwiki.org) seems to be down
[14:17] <TorstenFabricius> "<@luciash> we need tw.o up" <= any sysadmin around?
[14:20] <sylvieg> a tikiwiki ping does not work - I do not know the distant reboot url
[14:32] <luciash> i have already sent mail to oliver
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[14:33] <dodimar> anyone know where I could get tikisheet? tikiwiki.org website isn't loading..
[14:35] <TorstenFabricius> Hey there, I would need to change the design of a certain menu (custom top-bar) and research sais, it would apply the following cass: class="cssmenu_horiz menu43 sf-js-enabled sf-shadow"
[14:36] <TorstenFabricius> how can I change for ex the font colour or the font?
[14:36] <TorstenFabricius> no detailed coding needed
[14:37] <TorstenFabricius> just where to put what type of code
[14:38] <TorstenFabricius> would "cssmenu_horiz" be kind of the parent class of "cssmenu_horiz menu43 sf-js-enabled sf-shadow"? 
[14:40] <TorstenFabricius> I mean, I think perhabs changing the design/formatting/style of the "cssmenu_horiz" in the css/style/template could change the settings as appropriate for the specific one aswell?
[14:42] <TorstenFabricius> anybody some experience with template stuff?
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[14:55] <JoernOtt> TorstenFabricius: read http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Multiple_Classes
[14:55] <JoernOtt> depending on what you want, you can add just another class behind it
[14:56] <JoernOtt> or just do it in the menu43 class
[14:56] <JoernOtt> which if I understand it correctly is specific for menu 43
[14:56] <JoernOtt> so your edits wont impact other menus
[15:00] <TorstenFabricius> generally, I would like to have it as standart for horizontal menu bars, if I find a possibility to create kind of site-divisions (idea workspaces?) with individual top-bars, but same design - perhabs with categories
[15:00] <JoernOtt> then adapting cssmenu_horiz would be your choice
[15:00] <TorstenFabricius> so would be the class cssmenu_horiz ?
[15:00] <TorstenFabricius> ah
[15:00] <TorstenFabricius> and that seems to be a class?
[15:01] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: the Firebug will tell you which class overrides the other ones (they're on the same level) and then decide where to put your font attributes
[15:01] <TorstenFabricius> so I just put it in my template and describe the style in there 'class {style }'?
[15:01] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: you can also try CSS !important property
[15:03] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: e.g. .cssmenu_horiz {font: bold .9em "Trebuchet MS", "Lucida Grande", sans-serif !important}
[15:03] <luciash> you can try it in Admin > Look & Feel > Misc tab
[15:03] <JoernOtt> TorstenFabricius: The definition is done in the stylesheet which you will find in styles/... not in the template
[15:04] <luciash> in the Custom CSS textarea
[15:04] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28083 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX]transition: partial rollback to batch transition
[15:06] <TorstenFabricius> ah yes, luciash I am used to say template to the css-files, but I know that it is in /styles thx - already have it downloaded, have it in the tiki-css-editor, have it printed out
[15:06] <JoernOtt> Instead of modifying an existing Theme, I always create my own Theme option where I can override everything without breaking the original: see http://themes.tikiwiki.org/CSS
[15:08] <ricks99> @TorstenFabricius: if u only wnat to override for a particular menu, check the parent div, then define your overrride.
[15:08] <TorstenFabricius> I just read about stuff like that yesterday - "my template coder" is in holidays and will have a surgery soon, but I need it and just started to learn that by monday
[15:10] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28084 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Extending the quickedit with optional copy/paste textarea, description input field and category selector
[15:11] <ricks99> do you have dev tools (for IE) for firebug (for FF)? will help show the which classes u need to override
[15:12] <TorstenFabricius> I did download firebug an hour ago after luciash s recommendation 
[15:12] <TorstenFabricius> and with that I found out the class cssmenu_horiz
[15:14] <ricks99> <shamlessplug> an excellent how to is here: http://bit.ly/czdyOU </shamelessplug>
[15:18] <TorstenFabricius> roughly I understand, what is going on ... the system of the css-stuff
[15:19] <TorstenFabricius> I´d say I need some practice and from time to time some tips from in here
[15:21] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28085 10/trunk/ (8 files in 7 dirs): [FIX]tracker: reimplement 27986 in special tables: possibility to change the status of a tracker's items a certain time after creation or last modif + notof creator before a certain time : a cron job must be set up
[15:29] <TorstenFabricius> ricks99 I think I nearly heard enough, that I should go and try, respectively bring together all I heard. But still some question open:
[15:30] <TorstenFabricius> how I can check the parent id with firebug?
[15:30] <TorstenFabricius> I have the site and firebug open
[15:34] <TorstenFabricius> class="cssmenu_horiz menu43 sf-js-enabled sf-shadow" is that now one class, or a bunch of?
[15:34] <TorstenFabricius> anyway, I think, first I have to read the docs mentioned by ricks99
[15:35] <RavenC> I have an unusual question (quit laughing)....  Using a hosted site, I used fantastico to install TW 4.1 (all they had).  What would be the best avenue to upgrade from 4.1 to either 4.3 or 5.0 (prefer 5.0)?  FTP the files over-top of that install and upgrade?
[15:35] <TorstenFabricius> thx at all, esp. ricks99 luciash joer
[15:35] <ricks99> 2 different classes
[15:35] <TorstenFabricius> JoernOtt and
[15:35] <ricks99> u can look and see the paretnt and all children
[15:35] <TorstenFabricius> Kimberlee
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[15:59] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28086 10/trunk/lib/todolib.php: oops
[16:02] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: bunch of
[16:02] <TorstenFabricius> thx
[16:03] <TorstenFabricius> I´ll try to get the contextual menu done and then I´ll do the stuff with 3.x to 5.x and 4.x to 5.x upgrade
[16:04] <TorstenFabricius> marc mentioned that and I think we should go for tiki5 anyway
[16:05] <TorstenFabricius> the css stuff changed in tiki4 and as far as I understood, the system in tik4 is kind of some better than in 3.x
[16:05] <ricks99> many theme/layout changes from 3 -> 4. huge improvement
[16:06] <luciash> TorstenFabricius: oh, sorry, i thought you're in Tiki5 already
[16:06] <TorstenFabricius> no, but hopefully soon
[16:07] <TorstenFabricius> but before I upgrade the productive site (small one) and the soon-productive site, I will need the next level style
[16:08] <TorstenFabricius> is itpossible to use the same style in tiki4 and tiki5?
[16:08] <luciash> mostly yes, but there might be some changes which will need an update
[16:09] <TorstenFabricius> ok, I will see
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[16:13] <ricks99> styles migrate pretty well from 4->5. as luciash says, some minor tweaks, but mostly fine
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[16:17] <TorstenFabricius> re
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[16:28] <TorstenFabricius> re
[16:28] <TorstenFabricius> just switched the chat client
[16:29] <ricks99> welcome back
[17:08] <ricks99> tw.o community server still down?
[17:08] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.
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[17:22] <TorstenFabricius> ricks99: info, doc, dev, profiles, themes is up, but community/tw.o itself seems still to be down
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[17:23] <TorstenFabricius> branding is a bit slow
[17:23] <ricks99> y. and since it has intertiki info, cant seem to log in to any tw.o sites
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[18:02] <ricks99> increase php.ini memory
[18:03] <RavenC> aaaah...  thanks ricks
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[20:07] <luciash> re
[20:07] <luciash> tw.o seems to be back
[20:07] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.
[20:07] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: recovery/moving tikiwiki database - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37861
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[20:11] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28089 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: notice
[20:13] <jeff3558> I need some help. Basically I am trying to restore my wiki I have my /var/www/html/tikiwiki and /var/lib/mysql/tikiwiki folders but everything I have tried is resulting in errors have a desc ready to send as a query for anyone that would be so kind 
[20:19] <sylvieg> 1/ check you can access your database is accessible with phpmyadmin or command line with the user/pass from db/local/php
[20:19] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3498 - - Can't attach file to newsletter - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3498
[20:19] <sylvieg> 2/ check the perms on the directories are ok sh setup.php
[20:20] <jeff3558> thanks sylvieg I ran the sh setup.sh and the install-tiki.php I am pretty sure db's are accesible as it gave option to use existing connection
[20:20] <sylvieg> so what is the error?
[20:20] <jeff3558> but I am NOT positive
[20:21] <jeff3558> can I send to you as a PM as it is multi line?
[20:21] <sylvieg> di dyou reboot mysqld .. not sure when playing directly with the tables ...
[20:21] <sylvieg> yes
[20:22] <jeff3558> and yes I have rebooted the system msg on way
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[21:13] <luciash> hi, i have created menu item and assigned it to group Nobody which has no members - the idea was to display this item to nobody but user with Admins group can still see that
[21:13] <luciash> bug or feature ?
[21:13] <luciash> Tiki 4.x (haven't tested with Tiki 5 yet)
[21:28] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28090 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Only save geo attributes when both long and lat set (one without the other is meaningless)
[21:31] <sylvieg> luciash: I think there is an option - or its oit only for anonymous
[21:31] <sylvieg> .. anonymous... but I think the admin visibility is deliberate
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[22:09] <luciash> well, i can live with that but i wanted to hide that for admins too, because it is an experimental item (custom html) and i didn't want to delete it completely for possible future/reference to use it later at that site
[22:09] <luciash> sylvieg: thx anyway
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[23:03] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Version 6 Feature - outputtowiki - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37865
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[23:24] <TorstenFabricius> re
[23:32] <TorstenFabricius> test
[23:32] <CIA-49> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28092 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Previous commit included a fix for cachekey problem regarding all sub-cats vs just one level - this commit finishes it off.
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