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fabricius_: hello
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fabricius: hi
<br> back from france
<br> Vosges rocks
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luciash: polom
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amette: moloq
luciash: hey early birdies :-p
amette: hehe, well, I'm more like late ;)
<br> been working all night, didn't notice time going by
luciash: you seem rather too late bro
amette: hehe, yup :)
<br> well, I'll say goodnight then now...
-: luciash is early (exceptional situation), cause spent night in tent in the garden w/ kid
amette: ... you made me look at the time, thanks bro :)
<br> ah, cool :)
luciash: sleep well :)
amette: thanks - cu :)
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chibaguy: polomonday
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luciash: polom chibaguy
<br> is there still time to put fixes and Czech translation update before Tiki 5.1 release ?
chibaguy: Hi luciash. Yes, I think so. I didn't see any specific release time yet.
<br> I think maybe the release time is around http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBigBlueButton (Aug. 15-18)
luciash: oki :)
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chibaguy: Speaking of bugs, I wonder if the odd browser title at tw.o is due to a bug (url appears on the tab, not wiki page name, etc.).
luciash: ithink it depends on page (if it has description) or section (if it is implemented)
<br> there's set use page's description for title
coaboa: hi all
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luciash: hi coa
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: imho it should fallback to page title if description is empty
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: whould be better solution i think
chibaguy: yes, that makes sense.
<br> hi coaboa
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luciash: hmm, what's going on with my local copy of tiki branch5 ?
-: luciash gets "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" after svn up
chibaguy: does your db/local.php look ok?
<br> bbl. got to catch the train home. :-)
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luciash: ah, somehow, my mysql was stopped
<br> :-p
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luciash: <u>Sug4r</u>: what was that, my dear bot ?
Sug4r: Pardon?
luciash: :)
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r28248 10/trunk/templates/tiki-blog_post.tpl: MOD] allow blog post edit screen to use full screen width - particularly important for wysiwyg editor
<br> tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r28249 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl: MOD] allow new article header and body edit screens to use full screen width - particularly important for wysiwyg editor
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yonixxxxx: hi
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olio: Hey. I want tiki-shoutbox to show only the message and not the User, Timedate, Message. I've tried to change the code in lib/shoutbox/shoutboxlib.php but i can't seem to find the right place where the output is generated
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luciash: <u>olio</u>: templates/tiki-shoutbox.tpl or templates/modules/mod-shoutbox.tpl iirc
olio: ah ok, found it, thx.
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jonnyb: polom.1
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jonnyb: hi chibaguy
chibaguy: hi jonnyb
jonnyb: shall we do a release? (probably a bit late in the day for you)
<br> oh, i was going to have a look at the colorbox bug you posted first...
<br> seems odd that it changed
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ricks99: Hi all
sylvieg: polom
jonnyb: hi ricks99, sylvieg and all
<br> should we try and release 5.1 today?
sylvieg: we can
ricks99: go for it
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ricks99: I started a rel note for 5.1
<br> but need help
Blue_: IE8 showing "error on page" even for http://info.tikiwiki.org. Is this universal or do I have a problem with my browser?
jonnyb: <u>Blue_</u>: do the other two sites have that error too?
<br> no error in safari, probably in IE special
<br> sylvieg & ricks99: i'll do a mail to the devels to say we'll start releasing... when? in a "few" hours?
ricks99: @Blue_ can u clear the IE cache. My IE 8 reports no errors
jonnyb: maybe i should have a look at 5.x in IE
Blue_: <u>jonnyb</u>: Firefox does not show any error. What other two sites are you referring to?
jonnyb: doc.tiwiki.org for instance
sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: ok for me
jonnyb: (spelt properly of course)
<br> ok, will do a mail, then read "how to release" :)
ricks99: @Blue_: confirm that you are *NOT* running IE in "compatability mode"
<br> @jonnyb: sounds good. pls include in email to 1. review the rl notes and 2. review the news release too
-: ricks99 sees no errors for info.tw.o in IE 7 either
Blue_: http://doc.tikiwiki.org has the same error in IE8. IE is not in compatability mode.
jonnyb: <u>ricks99</u>: if you have the urls handy do you want to do the mail?
<br> <u>Blue_</u>: what language are you "in"
Blue_: <u>jonnyb</u>: english
jonnyb: hmm (sometimes translations can break javascript strings)
ricks99: @Blue_: what is ur exact IE8 version. I have 8.0.6001 and see no errors reproted
Blue_: <u>ricks99</u>: IE version 8.0.7600.16385
ricks99: hm....
-: ricks99 tries to force an ie update..
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RobertP: jonnyb, is there yet a movement in 5.x to bring the new jQuery.s5 plugin to users?
<br> or is it still in trunk?
jonnyb: no, not in 5
<br> that'll be for 6 (unless you want to add it later for 5.2)
RobertP: Are there plans to make it external?
jonnyb: but please don't do it now
<br> we need to release 5.1
RobertP: :)
<br> I won't,
<br> I was away last week, and am getting ready for a new week
<br> just trying to catchup
rotterdam: how do I add links on the top menu?
RobertP: How do you like what I did with s5 jonnyb? Anything you see needs to change right off?
ricks99: @rotterdam: add a link to the specific menuID. see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Menu_Customizing_Menus
jonnyb: <u>RobertP</u>: i looked at the example you sent while in barcelona - not had time to look again now in trunk, sorry
RobertP: np
rotterdam: ricks99, thanks
<br> ricks99, Page not found
chibaguy: Is luciash around? He was asking about the release time for 5.1 because he wants to commit czech lang changes and I think some bug fix(es).
ricks99: d'oh. ... /Menu#Customizing_Menus
jonnyb: ok chibaguy - i'm suggesting that we do it in 4(ish) hours time, should be enough (hopefully)
<br> it'll be late for you though ;)
rotterdam: ricks99, :)
chibaguy: ok. yeah, a little late for me.
<br> btw, I'm not getting any js errors in ie8 at info.tw.o.
<br> although i do get them in ie fairly often.
jonnyb: might the info.tw.o thing be related to anonymous vs logged in?
chibaguy: maybe so.
ricks99: i was viweing as anonymous in ie8 - no errors
RobertP: Hey jonnyb, I don't have sufficient priviledges to setup feeds for jQuery.s5, can you create the feed for http://code.google.com/p/jquerys5/feeds?
chibaguy: ricks99, I just tried both ways, and no error.
RobertP: when you have time, I know you are busy
ricks99: @chibaguy: i confirm too. i saw no errors in ie 7 or 8
jonnyb: <u>RobertP</u>: how come i'd have more privies than you there? you started that one didn't you?
chibaguy: I have seen errors fairly recently but of course now I don't and am not sure what site or what was activated, etc.
RobertP: I went to go add it here:http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=JQS5
<br> I wanted to have an rss like jquery.sheet
<br> I did not create that page
jonnyb: sorry - not seen that - ricks99 can you help?
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Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Ver5.0 - image in files gallery not display in wiki page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37935
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RobertP: hey marc
<br> marclaport
<br> marclaporte
<br> Just fyi, I was out of town last week, and am working on the cell id reference issue.
<br> or feature rather
<br> I will have it uploaded shortly.
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marclaporte1: :-)
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28250 10/branches/5.x/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] Installer: Check if database really exists before using it (thanks marclaporte)
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Kimberlee: hello all.
jonnyb: hi Kimberlee
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RobertP: marclaporte, problems?
<br> jonnyb, do you see any feezable way to save column width with spreadsheets?
<br> marc has it on my list to do next.
luciash: polom jonnyb
<br> may i still commit ?
jonnyb: haven't investigated
RobertP: ok
jonnyb: polom luciash
<br> please do - fixes only though, right? ;)
luciash: yea
marclaporte: polom
jonnyb: i'm still trying to track down an installer bug
RobertP: yea, I was thinking, it is more or less a style attribute.
luciash: hi marc
RobertP: If we were to use style, we would then also support colors, etc.
marclaporte: hi luciash
jonnyb: seems my shared host's mqsql user hasn't got the perms to find out about the charset stuff
<br> sorry RobertP - not doing spreadsheets today
RobertP: I understand
jonnyb: sorry, hope to soon! :)
RobertP: You are a viable master of the tiki, in and out of code all day long :)
jonnyb: aw shucks :P
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RavenC: polom
Bernard-: polom too
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marclaporte: <u>chealer</u>: WebPI code is in branches/5.x for 5.1 release?
ricks99: doesn't tiki5 have an rss feed for wiki page comments? i cant find it on admin_rss?
marclaporte: <u>ricks99</u>: I have never seen that
ricks99: hm...
<br> must be dreaming
-: jonnyb worries that ricks99 dreams of rss feeds
ricks99: lol
<br> we have a comment admin page that lists all comments.
chibaguy: be happy that your dreams don't have rss feeds ;-)
RavenC: lol
-: ricks99 wonders how hard it would b for jonnyb to turn it into an rss feed
<br> ricks99 for 5.1
ricks99: :-)
jonnyb: tee hee!
-: ricks99 goes to add RSS for COmments as a new feature in the rel notes. now jonnyb *has* to add it :-)
<br> jonnyb doesn't subscribe to this feed
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28251 10/branches/5.x/tiki-imexport_languages.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] import/export lang: fix PHP error and allow to re-import if the lang was
<br> tikiwiki: already imported before, changed string Included to Imported and made it
<br> tikiwiki: translantable; TODO: handle delete and currently used lang cannot be imported
luciash: sorry s/translantable/translatable/
jonnyb: got a nasty 5.x installer bug on my shared hosting. it's a 4.1 tiki but the line in local.php said $dbversion_tiki='3.0' and so it's trying to use adobe but failing (for some reason)
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luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: replace that dbversion ?
jonnyb: i think adding the api_tiki=pdo to local would fix it, but it would be better if it just worked...
<br> and now i'm trying it again the version has been already updated to 5.0 (in local.php)
<br> ik
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Bernard-: to use the plugin SPLIT into the "Custom End of <body> Code" is a bad idea. :)
luciash: Bernard-: one must just close the code carefully
Bernard-: ... what do you mean ?
<br> {SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%)}&nbsp;---col1---&nbsp;---col2{SPLIT} look ok to me
jonnyb: aha - seems my server has php with '-disable-pdo' set :(
luciash: aye
<br> Bernard-: colsize has unclosed quote
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Bernard-: ...i'm getting really old... :(
luciash: :)
Bernard-: yes tks :)
<br> But anyway... it broke the end code.
<br> ... time to bring back old table ?
<br> <table>
luciash: Bernard-: probably must be enclosed inside {wiki}...{/wiki} too
<br> as it is wiki plugin
Bernard-: nope tried it too:
<br> {wiki}{SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")}&nbsp;---col1---&nbsp;---col2{SPLIT}{/wiki}
luciash: well yes, you can achieve the same with HTML table tag
<br> can i see how it breaks ?
chibaguy: I wonder what would be special about SPLIT that would cause it to not work in the custom code.
<br> Any properly formed syntax should work.
Bernard-: sure
<br> here : http://shocksite.com/5x.html/
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28252 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Installer: Only offer to fix encoding if the database exists.
Bernard-: this is with the tag split
luciash: alternative in Smarty block is {wikiplugin _name="split" joincols="n" colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")}&nbsp;---col1---&nbsp;---col2{/wikiplugin}
Bernard-: ah ok this is interesting, i test
luciash: i don't see it there
Bernard-: better !
<br> yes the "wikiplugin" is working tks
luciash: Bernard-: yo yoni ! ;)
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rodrigo_sampaio: hi jonnyb, I saw your e-mail in the devel list about the 5.1 release. Let me know if I can help you.
jonnyb: hi rodrigo_sampaio - yes please, the more people we have to test the better
<br> should be stuff to play with in a couple of hours
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28253 10/branches/5.x/tiki-edit_languages.php: [FIX] edit languages: double entities in translations problem - it is not wanted to put htmlentities and strip tags - edit languages is alowed by trusted users anyway... caused just trouble
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: ok, I will be online for the next two hours and after I will be offline for six hours or so
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: but after that I will be back online
jonnyb: ok, no worries, if we're still doing it in 8 hours we will need help! :D
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chibaguy: Bernard- : literal tags are also needed for SPLIT in the custom code text area, like {wiki}{literal}{SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")}&nbsp;---col1---&nbsp;---col2{SPLIT}{/literal}{/wiki}
Bernard-: Hi Chibaguy.... tks right now wikiplugin seams ok
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: ok :D
chibaguy: ok, just for future reference. should be true for all wikiplugins.
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: can i commit just lang/cs/language.php still ?
Bernard-: i'll try to keep that in mind... but lately i have quit some troubles there... ;)
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: or too late ?
jonnyb: <u>luciash</u>: sure
luciash: k
jonnyb: i'm still trying to work out this horrid installer thing
<br> does someone need to do the get_strings() thing? (i've never done that, but don't you need to do that in order to have all the strings there?)
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luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: i guess someone enhanced the release script to handle the get_strings
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: hopefully
jonnyb: we shall see :)
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28254 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: [ENH] Czech language: some more translated
chealer: <u>marclaporte</u>: the web pi code is not, but it will not be in the main tree neither
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jonnyb: hmm, i'm now getting: A new version of Tikiwiki, 4.3, is available. You are currently running 5.0. Please visit http://tikiwiki.org/Download
chealer: bbl
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luciash: translation using the DB and interactive mode is now breeze :)
marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: yay!
<br> <u>luciash</u>: I think we'll get Dogfooders!
<br> http://inuktitut.ourwiki.net/
luciash: we need article encouraging translators to help update the translations
RobertP: marclaporte, I'm having some trouble installing tiki on yahoo host, could I talk to you a couple minutes about it?
ricks99: @luciash: a call for translations?
<br> good idea
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: yes, something like "We call all the translators" :)
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: a pity we can't make it for 5.1 but for 5.2 we could have whole lot new translations because 5.x strings are pretty stabilized now
rodrigo_sampaio: anyone with permission can add the user lucasemanoel to the tikiwiki project on sourceforge? he is a brazilian who is willing to help with translation
-: ricks99 still thinks many/some of the "English" strings are poor
<br> ricks99 wishes we could externalize all strings
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: talking about translation, you know if there is any how to on how to translate tiki and contribute the translation back to the repository?
luciash: easiest would be a short video how-to
<br> but basically you just need to enable "Use db for translations", import your lang and start translating directly via Tiki
ricks99: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/i18n and http://doc.tikiwiki.org/i18n are good starts
luciash: then when done use export language, change the encoding to utf-8, save the file and send it as patch or copy/paste and commit directly
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: huh... this export language is new to me. sounds good
<br> thanks for the links ricks99
ricks99: dont we have a tiki team for translation?
rodrigo_sampaio: luciash, ricks99: any of you has permission to add developers to tiki on sourceforge?
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28255 10/branches/5.x/styles/layout/design.css: [FIX] interactive translation should be on top above all when displayed
ricks99: y (think so)
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28256 10/branches/5.x/lib/core/lib/TikiDb.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] TikiDb: Add test for valid results to fetchAll().
<br> tikiwiki: Reveals errors in installer (e.g. 'Your MySQL version is too old to perform this operation') on some operations and should also help expose other mystery WSoD errors.
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>ricks99</u>: can you try adding please the user lucasemanoel?
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: he is a brazilian willing to help with translation
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ricks99: has 01lucasemanoel read/understand the 3 rules for tiki development?
-: luciash thinks interactive translation form would look better inside the jQuery UI
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>ricks99</u>: yes
ricks99: sf name is: 01lucasemanoel right?
-: ricks99 waves the magic wand...
<br> ricks99 ... and adds lucasemanoel
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ricks99: all set rodrigo_sampaio. may take a bit of time for perms to propogate through all sf servers
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rodrigo_sampaio: <u>ricks99</u>: thanks
luciash: a pity there's nobody to welcome and cheer ;)
<br> <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: greetings to him
ricks99: my first cerementy... i'm just hoping i didnt' break anything :)
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: congrats
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: he is on #tikiwiki-br, I will ask him to join us here ;)
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: who knows with your magic wand ...
ricks99: little do you know... :)
rotterdam: Good morning!
rodrigo_sampaio: luciash, ricks99: he is here rotterdam = luscasemanoel :)
luciash: ah :)
ricks99: Olá rotterdam. welcome to tiki
-: luciash welcomes rotterdam to the Tiki i18n community !
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luciash: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: btw, is it true YouTube is banned in Brazil ?
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xavi: bbl
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: where did you heard that? I don't think so, but I can't be sure since I'm not in Brasil (I'm in Montreal)
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rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: a few years ago Youtube was forced to remove a video and I think this was it
luciash: i have read that on Mashable.com that now Russia banned it and joined other countries and Brasil was listed there too
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rodrigo_sampaio: <u>luciash</u>: no, probably they list brazil because the site was down for a few hours or days (I don't remember), but when they removed the video they were back
RobertP: Anyone, I'm installing tikiwiki on a yahoo hosting environment, and they don't let you see logs. I've manually installed the database, and yet I get nothing when I try to navigate to tiki. Anyone have any ideas?
<br> http://division7inc.com/new
jonnyb: <u>RobertP</u>: when you say nothing you mean "white page of doom"?
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RobertP: I get a blank page, even after configuring db/local.php
<br> yup
<br> white indeed
jonnyb: what version?
RobertP: 5.0
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jonnyb: odd - it redirects to tiki-install.php but then dies :(
<br> can you update to svn 5.x?
<br> that last fix i did will hopefully make any db error show up
chibaguy: <u>rotterdam</u>: welcome to the project!
ricks99: @RobertP: how much php memory?
RobertP: How should I quickly upgrade?
<br> Yahoo is lower
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RobertP: lower memory,
<br> like 8 meg
ricks99: that's not enough. See requirements docs
<br> 32M is needed
jonnyb: at least 16M, even just to show a clean install
ricks99: pls see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/requirements
RobertP: <u>from</u>: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki+Friendly+Hosts ; SBC Hosting(external link) memory_limit set at 8M with a 12M max — presumably if you ask nicely as it is not possible to access php.ini ranebo Jun 14, 2005
<br> Should I ask them, pretty pretty please upgrade my memory?
ricks99: try adding ur own php.ini
<br> set memory for 32M
rotterdam: chibaguy, thanks
jonnyb: sometimes you can do it in the .htaccess (but i imaging yahoo don't allow that)
RobertP: i don't think either ini or .htaccess are allowed,
rotterdam: chibaguy, you are who received more thanks to the channel here:)
RobertP: Now that I know the issue I will try to get it resolved with support, THANKS!
chibaguy: :-)
jonnyb: <u>chibaguy</u>: what's going on with templates/styles/fivealive/tiki-searchindex.tpl?
<br> i have a conflict in trunk
<br> has it been deleted in trunk and not in 5.x?
chibaguy: <u>jonnyb</u>: I don't recall any difference in the two; they should be the same.
jonnyb: it seems to have gone from trunk
<br> and sf.net seems to not have a "show deleted files" button any more ;(
ricks99: isnt searchindex for the old/tiki search?
<br> searchresults is for the mysql full-text search?
jonnyb: i think so, yes
<br> but i can't see why it's in 5.x now
<br> looks like marclaporte edited it in 5.x a couple of days ago, hence the merge conflict...
<br> :D
<br> i'm going to say it's not a conflict - ok to not be in trunk but still in 5.x (need to get on!)
chibaguy: fivealive/tiki-searchindex.tpl differs from the default in that it has the css dropdown.
<br> that's not to say the file is being used, of course.
jonnyb: well it seems to have been deleted from trunk
<br> someone just tidying up, i guess
chibaguy: the search works ok in trunk?
chealer: polom
chibaguy: I mean display-wise?
jonnyb: sorry, focussing on 5.1
<br> polom chealer
chibaguy: anyway, fivealive/tiki-searchresults.tpl also has the cssmenu dropdown, so apparently that's the one being used.
<br> (maybe I modified them both originally)
chealer: indexed search was deleted from trunk in January, but I believe it was restored soon after
<br> hi jonnyb, chibaguy and all
chibaguy: hi chealer
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jonnyb: ok, i'm going for some "lunch" - back in 20 for release fun! :)
chealer: yeah, indexed search was restored on January 21
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: searchresults is actually the oldest search, although in one way you could say indexed search is obsolete since non-MySQL DBs support was dropped.
chibaguy: time to sleep here. bbl.
chealer: good night chibaguy
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chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: I don't recall sf.net having a "show deleted files" button, unless you mean the CVS Attic. or unless you're talking about something really old.
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: searchresults is indeed for the mysql full-text search
jonnyb: <u>chealer</u>: really? i thought there used to be one on browse svn...
ricks99: is there a way to determine number of commits for 5.1 and number of commiters?
jonnyb: i think the release script does that, or some of it
<br> getting towards that :)
xavi: back
<br> reading the back log
<br> polom all, btw :-)
jonnyb: hi xavi
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: if it has been there in the past year, I failed to notice something I really missed. even on the command line there's no easy way to see deleted files. I always consider this a big regression from CVS.
<br> hi xavi
ricks99: need those basic stats for the news release
xavi: hi jonnyb and chealer
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xavi: are we in release mode already?
ricks99: alwasy impressive to shown high number of commits and contributors
jonnyb: sort of, xavi
xavi: ok
jonnyb: <u>Question</u>: Is this going to be 5.1 RC1?
xavi: afair, that was the proposal in bcn
jonnyb: i think it's probably safest, we dont want all that encoding stuff again
xavi: or "RC" since we don't expect RC2
jonnyb: 5.1 RC it is then
marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: tks for work on import/export of language. How close/far are we for people to use Interactive translation and share back their enhancements with the community?
jonnyb: actually, i've changed my mind - let's do 5.1 RC 1 (otherwise i'm sure we would have to do 5.1 RC 2 :) )
xavi: ok, well thought :-)
jonnyb: ok, i now declare branches/5.x "officially" closed (if that's ok with everyone?)
xavi: ok
<br> anyway, "muphy" will commit something, you know...
jonnyb: indeed
-: xavi playing with the new TikiLiveCD including Tiki6svn ;-)
jonnyb: i've done a mail to devels about no more commits in 5.x - could someone update http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Where+to+commit please?
<br> so - here goes! :)
-: xavi updates
xavi: page upated
jonnyb: thanks
xavi: 4.x left out of the page (we encourage 3.x lts or latest stable branch, which is 5.x...)
jonnyb: good good - yes, 4.x is closed
<br> ok, here we go...
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chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: I would have no problem with a final 5.1
<br> i.e. I'm not too worried
jonnyb: 5.0 wasn't good enough - we should make sure this time (also it was generally agreed to do that in barcelona)
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jonnyb: also, this is my first release - already messed the version up! :)
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: I agree, but I think that's a lesson for Tiki 6. I want 5.0 to be replaced ASAP.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: so you haven't figured out 5.0 telling you to upgrade 4.3?
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: so you haven't figured out 5.0 telling you to upgrade to 4.3?
jonnyb: yes, i needed to do ?forcecheck=y (or something)
marclaporte: so tiki-install.php should do forcecheck?
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: hum... that 5.0 site was upgraded from a pre-4.3 install?
jonnyb: was going to document it - or see why the installer doesn't make it happen
<br> but agree that 5.1 needs to get out
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-: marclaporte cheers for 5.1
jonnyb: got an error in release.php while doing the lang files
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28262 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.1RC1
jonnyb: ignoring it for now (but have made a note)
sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: did you change the release number because the script ask you ? or because you know?
jonnyb: it told me to
-: sylvieg trying to fix the question in http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release
sylvieg: ok thx
jonnyb: yes, it seems the $this->version needs to be the actual full version dusting (this time 5.1RC1 - no spaces)
sylvieg: and did it ask to change in _htaccess too?
jonnyb: and the same string needs to be in the tikiVersions() array
<br> no, at least not yet
<br> doing the stupid copyright file at the moment...
<br> by the way, ricks99 - it looks like the revision range is 18261 to 23261 (according to this script)
chealer: yay, installer working on PHP 5.3.3
jonnyb: handy!
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: hmm, maybe not - now it's looking at 13260 to 18260
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jonnyb: yes, it seems to be going back to the dawn of time...
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-: ricks99 is sure that jonnyb will figure it all out :-)
ricks99: even just a guestimate is fine.500+ commits, 40+ contributors, etc
jonnyb: <u>ricks99</u>: have a look at r 28262 (the changes in changelog.txt)
sylvieg: do we still need to update http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version or is doen automatically now?
jonnyb: i'd guess it's a manual ftp thing (but don't know really)
<br> 5 new committers apparently
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chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: it's manual AFAIK
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: anyway, I don't get the 4.3 upgrade notice in my 5.0 test site. let me know if you have more info on the problem.
jonnyb: jolly good - think it was just some legacy stuff on my old tiki
ricks99: changelog doesnt help me much :-(
jonnyb: we could/should add a "double check this" link to that message
ricks99: surely cant be too hard to find :
<br> 1. number of commits since last branch
<br> 2. number of unique usernames?
jonnyb: indeed - it should be added to release.php i think
ricks99: +1
sylvieg: 142 commits
jonnyb: i made it 141 ;)
ricks99: tx. how many contributors?
marclaporte: add ideas here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release#Improve_the_release_process
jonnyb: there are still some php errors reported here - only STRICT and DEPRECATED ones though, ok? (i'm ignoring them)
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: in the release scripts?
jonnyb: ik, check smarty templates has blown up (on tiki-mods.tpl)
sylvieg: 15 contributors
jonnyb: sorry chealer?
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: the PHP errors come from the release scripts or what?
jonnyb: oh sorry - yes
chealer: it beats my expectations if there's nothing more than STRICT and DEPRECATED
jonnyb: me too :D
chealer: never ran them but I fugre it's OK
<br> figure
jonnyb: yes, the smarty check i think is more of a problem
<br> i seem to remember for 4.0 we just skipped that bit
<br> so skipping...
rotterdam: I'm trying to download the trunk by a graphic account of svn and it is asking username and password
sylvieg: <u>rotterdam</u>: are you a s tiki developper?
luciash: re
sylvieg: if yes checkout with your sf name - if no you can only do an export
luciash: yay, that's some activity here now, go jonny go :)
jonnyb: on to the secede thing now...
<br> secede i mean
marclaporte: ggeller lost some commits between 5.0 and 5.1! Name: George Geller First Commit: 2003-12-07 Last Commit: 2005-11-30 -Number of Commits: 161 +Number of Commits: 159
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: well, i would say the translations can start right away now with latest 5.x branch
rotterdam: sylvieg, I will help translate into Portuguese
jonnyb: ach - auto spell check!!
luciash: :)
jonnyb: hmm, supposedly building packages now (think it broke)
sylvieg: <u>rotterdam</u>: are you lucasemanoel?
luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: at least it seems to work flawlessly now with Chrome
rotterdam: sylvieg, yes
sylvieg: ah welcome = so use your sourceforge username
marclaporte: lucasemanoelrotterdam....
<br> :-)
rotterdam: sylvieg, unfortunately sourceforge refused my nickname
luciash: <u>rotterdam</u>: brazil likez netherlands
rotterdam: hehehe
luciash: :)
rotterdam: luciash, rotterdam is my nickname because of the writer Erasmo
<br> marclaporte, 2010-06 Marc Laporte Interview Espirito Livre Magazine
<br> translate to Portuguese?
marclaporte: yes
rotterdam: on some page or on my computer?
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eromneg: <u>jonny</u>: been trying to follow the irc trail - but should the "check for updates" button be reporting 5.1 now?
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sylvieg: <u>eromneg</u>: no I think utnitl tikiwiki.org/version is updated
jonnyb: also this is a "pre" release so far
sylvieg: and I did not have anymore access to this server - need Oliver
jonnyb: apparently it's building the packages here now!
sylvieg: I like the apparently ;-)
<br> no jonnyb your computer is stuck ;-)
rotterdam: marclaporte, on some page or on my computer?
eromneg: <u>sylvie</u>: thanks - but I've got a 4.0 site that is still just telling me to upgrade to 4.3 - should this at least report 5.0?
jonnyb: looks like it sylvieg
sylvieg: <u>eromneg</u>: not sure about the logic there ...
<br> need to check the code
jonnyb: <u>eromneg</u>: i had one this morning saying it was 5.0 but i should upgrade to 4.3!
<br> so something's wrong in there
<br> yay! my shell returned...
ricks99: it should report *both* - a major and minor update
jonnyb: and it's laid three lovely little tarballs!
ricks99: but a 3.x site should report only 3.x (minor) and 5.x (major) since 4.x is deprecated
eromneg: one of my 3.5 sites just says "A new stable major release branch is available." does give a number
<br> does not give a number
ricks99: imho, tiki should recommend 3.x -> 5.x -- NOT 3.x -> 4.x
<br> something to look at for tiki6
chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: should the 5.0 file not be removed at the same time as the 5.1 secdb is added :-?
jonnyb: you'd think so
<br> maybe not with a minor release
chealer: bbl
-: jonnyb admits he's never really understood the secdb thing
jonnyb: tarballs are gradually uploading - brb
luciash: the secdb thing should help compare if files were not modified since installation time (by some cracker's scripts, etc.) iirc
jonnyb: indeed, i've just never got past that bit :)
luciash: so it is only useful for end users, right ?
jonnyb: ok, first one's there: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.bz2
-: luciash grabbing that one
jonnyb: i'll do the zip one locally, even though that seems like cheating!
luciash: haha
RobertP: jonnyb, what is the procedure for a small fix after a release has been locked?
<br> :)
jonnyb: like what?
RobertP: s5, I need to update a small line of js.
<br> for it to work correctly.
<br> Where it is linked
jonnyb: i thought you were working in trunk, no?
RobertP: ah yes
<br> ok nevermind :)
jonnyb: phew! :)
-: xavi saw murphy comming, but luckily murphy went away
jonnyb: ok, here's the gzip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.gz
xavi: I get it
jonnyb: zip seems fine here but should be independently checked i guess - should be up soon
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jonnyb: ok (finally) here is the zip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.zip
<br> i'm going to proceed with the proper release now (i.e. without the 'pre' bit) - i'm assuming (warning!) that the tarballs all have tiki 5.1 inside them?
<br> yell quick if you find otherwise please!
-: ricks99 downloading the zip right now...
xavi: jonyb, the tar.gz has many more dirs inside
<br> I wonder if this is intentionakl...
<br> jonnyb ^
jonnyb: oh?
<br> ah, stinky - it's done them in mac compatibility "mode"
<br> how dull...
<br> i'll fix
xavi: ok, good, this gives me some more time to install a full lampp stack on ,y computer (reinstalled the 64 bit version of linux a few days ago, and forgot to install lampp)
-: luciash extracting the bz2
jonnyb: ok, re-uploading "cleaned" tarballs
<br> <u>luciash</u>: you'll get a load of extra mac files in there, sorry - new ones on their way
luciash: oh, in the bz2 as well ?
<br> didn't spotted
jonnyb: they all start with a . so might not show up
luciash: bz2 doesn't sem to have them
<br> i see .htaccess but no mac files or folders there
ricks99: my brand new 5.1rc1 install seems to b very smooth
xavi: jonnyb, the extra folders I see are not hidden, but full folders
<br> i.e.: Zend, Service, lib, core
jonnyb: like what xavi?
xavi: like this file: UpdateConferenceTemplateParticipantResponse.php from this directori:
jonnyb: they should be in /lib
xavi: Zend/Service/DeveloperGarden/Response/ConferenceCall
-: ricks99 wonders why he sees" Upgrading and running into encoding issues?" warning on a brand new install ??
luciash: heheh
jonnyb: <u>xavi</u>: i don't understand
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: I presume because there more cases when the user is upgrading instead of just installing, and lph fed up ll possible cases
<br> possibly
<br> s/II/with
ricks99: i understand, but for a new install, there should not b the warning, no?
-: luciash installing
xavi: yes. however, how do you know at the end if you run into a clean install or upgrade?
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: try uncompressing the tar.gz file
jonnyb: ok
ricks99: if u click INSTALL = clean install, right?
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: yes
jonnyb: xavi - so files with long filenames seem to be missing for you, yes?
-: luciash forgot to translate the utf-8 installer step :-p
<br> luciash notes
ricks99: which UTF should my db be? utf_8_general_ci?
xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: nope. there are extra folders and files for me
jonnyb: hmmm, this doesn't seem good
xavi: at the same level as the tikipre folder
luciash: "Úspěšně provedené operace instalace: 6432 SQL dotazů." :)
jonnyb: maybe the mac zipping until is weird
sylvieg: I was 4.1 it told me 4.3 and major exists - I upgraded to 4.3 ... no more message :-( (missing the major)
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: i think you shouldn't care about that, the installer does that ;)
jonnyb: until/util
-: ricks99 wonders if his phpadmin is messed up. by default, any new db i create is latin1-sweedish? wtf?
<br> jonnyb switches off auto-correct
jonnyb: no ricks99 - that' the mysql default
ricks99: @luchiash: the installer doesn't create the db? i though i had to do it first?
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: installation in czech was succesfully completed
jonnyb: can someone else have a look at the gzip one, seems ok to me
<br> thx luciash
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: ah, ok, then i didn't care any my mysql create database tiki51; did it ;)
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luciash: i have utf-8 default i think, genereal_ci seems the best choice
ricks99: im confused. are we saying that tiki5.1 will create the db for you as part of the installer?
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: nope, sorry, i misunderstood
jonnyb: yes, utf8_bin is a bit weird, i'd avoid that one (everything seems to come out of the db as encoded binary)
-: ricks99 wonders if he is the only one who will be overly confused by the warnings?
jonnyb: has anyone else found the gz to be bad?
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jonnyb: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.gz
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28267 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] User account settings for URL shortener
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Typo in tiki-bot_bar.tpl when renaming promote to share
-: sylvieg found out my no more complain about 5 - check frequency is a week - need only to forcecheck
xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: no problem. using comand line, I saw the tar.gz fine, with no extra files
luciash: bbl
xavi: krusader or ark in 64bits might be buggy
<br> going to test the install right now (got lampp installted)
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jonnyb: ok, let's hope so
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xavi: yes, I agree with ricks99: step 8 in installer with a clean install would be nicer if it didn't show the "upgrading and running into encoding issues? ... "Dangerous: Fix double encoding"
<br> anyway, installer went fine for me
jonnyb: ok, i'm at the "tag release" stage here
<br> shall i go for it?
ricks99: and I wonder about "01Dangerous: Fix double encoding" does that mean the fix is dangerous?
jonnyb: (suggest we fix the misplaced encoding message for 5.2)
xavi: minor issue: language.js seems not to work for me
<br> I did the install in catalan, and the javascript message of password strength is in english, even if I translated and commited
jonnyb: so should we postpone? i'm not sure when i'll be able to donate another day next
xavi: minor issue. so , +1 to release as is right now
jonnyb: (i.e. someone else will have to do it)
<br> so no blockers?
ricks99: how hard to fix?
-: ricks99 off to add as a known issue in the rel notes, in that case
jonnyb: more the question is: who has 6 hours to start all this release process just for this?
xavi: +1 jonnyb
<br> thanks ricks99 for adding this tiny issue at the release notes
jonnyb: these issues have been in 5.x for a long time, they should wait for 5.2 i think
<br> remember, this is still only RC1
<br> several hour left to go...
xavi: yes, jonnyb, you are right: go for rc1!
jonnyb: hours
<br> here goes
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ricks99: see updated release noes: http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.1
<br> no new featuers? only updates & fixes?
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ricks99: bbl
jonnyb: ok, new non-pre tarballs uploading for testing (of shall i just upload them to sf.net?)
<br> s/of/or
xavi: no idea. for minimum potential noise, I'll test again
jonnyb: thanks xavi
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jonnyb: ok - bz2 is cooked: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.tar.bz2
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xavi: there I go for tar.bz2
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chealer: <u>xavi</u>: I think language.js is not used yet
<br> or it's very recent
jonnyb: yes, not really used yet (but i thought i worked on the password strength strings)
<br> in Spanish and Catalan at least
xavi: yes, it did work for me
jonnyb: gzip up: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.tar.gz
xavi: and very recently added by jonnyb
sylvieg: testing the gzip
jonnyb: i thought it was only in trunk... obviously not
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jonnyb: thx sylvieg
-: jonnyb curses his lamentable upload speed
xavi: <u>fyi</u>: utf-8 of the db not set properly, I'm afraid. My first install was a clean install on a new db...
<br> db created through phpmyadmin, and usually get latin1
<br> I did run the installer with the forece utf-8 for new installations, the first time
jonnyb: really? you created it with latin1 i guess
xavi: everything when fine, parently
jonnyb: did you try the 'fix it' button (the first one)
xavi: and nowadays, I'm testing the 5RC1, over the same db
jonnyb: zip is here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.zip
xavi: and when installing it, I provide same db details: username, db, etc.
<br> and I see then the "convert db and tables to utf-8"
chealer: <u>xavi</u>: oh OK, I'll try checking
jonnyb: i also checked the new zip locally - no sign of any funny Mac files, so i'll start the upload to sf.net (can always remove them if anything really bad appears)
xavi: thus, I presume that previously was not set to utf-8 by the installed, even if the checkbox "utf-8" was selected at the installer
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-: sylvieg does not remember what happens the the translation of the first page / homepage
sylvieg: I though some time ago it was translated...
jonnyb: i thought so too sylvieg
<br> i did get an error in the release script on the update lang files part though
sylvieg: the rest is correctly translated
jonnyb: <u>Warning</u>: unlink(temp/permstrings.tpl): No such file or directory in /Users/jonny/5.x_release/doc/devtools/release.php on line 118
<br> but then it says: >> Language files updated and temporary files removed.
<br> so i guess it was really ok
sylvieg: there is not tranlstaion of the homepage in the language.php
<br> so probably somebody changed it
<br> .... I supopose we need a lag/fr/homeapge
jonnyb: or do it from a profile?
xavi: jonnyb, everything went fine here, beyond that minor wrong info about db encoding
jonnyb: good, thanks - the bz2 is on it's way to sf.net
sylvieg: xavi do you know something about the homepage translation ( I did not begin in install in fr - I did only after the switch)
xavi: "after the switch"?
sylvieg: mine is fine also teh tar.gz
xavi: if you do it in a local language, the homepage should be in that lang (provided it's translated in language.php, of course)
<br> testing right now with catalan again
sylvieg: I entered tiki - goto i18n change lang to fr
<br> but homepage did not changed
xavi: ah, no, then. it seems to be fetched at installation time from language.php, afaik
jonnyb: HomePage is set in the installer, i think
xavi: sylvieg, the behavior you explain would be even better , but minor issue, imho
sylvieg: so it is because I switch too late in the instal
jonnyb: i seem to remember if you remove the homepage it makes a new on (in the right lang, one would hope)
xavi: yes, I confirm it works if you do the whole installation in your language
sylvieg: +1 jony - it works
xavi: well, at some point, due to the utf-8 fix buttons, language is lost, afair
<br> ok, did run out of time here. congrats for the release, jonnyb-release-manager! :-)
jonnyb: :D
<br> (hopefully)
xavi: see you all
jonnyb: thanks for your help
xavi: a pleasure I could help a bit
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sylvieg: is there something else I can do for the release ?
luciash: re
jonnyb: just waiting for the files to upload
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jonnyb: i'm having to use the web interface as i didn't seem to have the right perms via sftp
luciash: oh, yes, now i noticed... my homepage is translated to czech after installation was done in czech. but there seems to be some problem with encoding on that page
jonnyb: it might have died...
luciash: i get ?? instead of correct utf-8 chars
chealer: <u>luciash</u>: on a fresh 5.1 RC1? :-/
luciash: yes
jonnyb: bleh
luciash: but not all accented chars, only some of them
jonnyb: in a utl-8 db?
<br> utf
luciash: surprysingl ž, š, and í are displayed correctly
<br> *surprisingly
<br> hmm, let me check
<br> i thought the language translation doesn't depend on db by default tho
<br> interface is correct, just the homapage content, so, hmm, maybe you're right, i didn't create the db properly maybe
jonnyb: check the encoding of the lang.php file?
luciash: what is the command to check encoding of the db in mysql console ?
jonnyb: you can see it on phpmyadmin
<br> on the "variables" page
luciash: no phpmyadmin here :-p, just console mysql
jonnyb: google "select like charset" - it's something involving that
luciash: ah, got it
<br> tried status;
<br> seems it is my fault, sorry, it is latin1 there
<br> i will try to re-run installer and update and fix to utf-8
-: jonnyb fears we haven't seen the last of the charset business
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: you were doing much more clever job than me believing my db is utf-8 ready ;)
jonnyb: ok, got proper sftp to sf.net working (after re-reading the instructions)
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: hopefully the encoding issue gets fixed by the installer now
jonnyb: seems not though, for you?
chealer: <u>luciash</u>: the interface translation doesn't depend on the DB but the content translation (kind of the case here) does
luciash: hmm, got E_WARNING too after installation
<br> Missing argument 13 for sendWikiEmailNotification(), called in /home/luci/Development/tiki51/lib/tikilib.php on line 4587 and defined
<br> <u>chealer</u>: yeah, just realized that
<br> it occurs when i set no sender email in installer imho
chealer: <u>luciash</u>: sounds like a pre-existing issue
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: yeah, re-run the installer, fixed the encoding issue, switched to cz, reinstalled db and now the content is correctly in proper utf-8
jonnyb: nice
<br> can you add anything to the release notes on this?
luciash: for fresh installation it is pretty nice to be able to do that via installer
<br> yea
jonnyb: ok, the files are on sf.net at last
<br> https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/
ricks99: @jonnyb: is 5.1 "done"?
jonnyb: hi ricks99 - 5.1 RC 1 is
ricks99: "RC"- K.
<br> how long do we plan until final?
jonnyb: can you sanity check one for me pls? https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/
ricks99: trying to decide if it is worth a news reelase
jonnyb: depends if everyone likes this one, i guess
ricks99: grabbing the zip....
jonnyb: no, let's test a bit more pls
ricks99: k but i want to do a mini annoucement for wider testing
jonnyb: sounds good
luciash: goddamnit ! :(
<br> wtf ?
<br> i edited the page like mad to add to the releae notes, want to add remarksbox so i click the (?) help icon to find that plugin and instead of the jQueryUI popup all my content is gone :(
<br> on tw.o :(
<br> it really sucks
<br> click for help does nothing but reload the edited page, grmbl >:(
jonnyb: yuk - sounds like a js error there (again)
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: sorry, i will not try to write it again to the releasenotes
jonnyb: check the js console
luciash: yeah, minified sucks
jonnyb: not minified - it's social networking again
<br> ('twitter_update_list')' [null] is not an object
<br> in blogger.js (again)
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luciash: Uncaught ReferenceError: openEditHelp is not defined
<br> tiki-editpage.php:219
<br> then it reloads the page
jonnyb: yes, but first there is: TypeError: Result of expression 'document.getElementById('twitter_update_list')' [null] is not an object.
luciash: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'tooltips' of undefined
jonnyb: which then causes the rest of the js in the php file to fail
<br> yes, all jquery is broken
luciash: ok
<br> :(
jonnyb: solution is to debug http://twitter.com/javascripts/blogger.js (someone please!) or remove the twitter module
luciash: oh yea, also the CSS menu seems to be bugged (closes right away i move mouse from parent)
<br> because of that
<br> unassigning tiki tweets to see if it helps
<br> c'mon
jonnyb: most of the tw.o sites have been broken like this in the past few weeks :(
<br> ok, twitter thing gone, but error still there
<br> try re-minifying?
luciash: hm, how to ?
jonnyb: clear public cache?
luciash: ah
<br> Tiki cache ?
jonnyb: yy
<br> or switch the pref off and on again
<br> (then it won't do all the others... too late?)
luciash: nope :)
jonnyb: :)
luciash: my finger was on the button ;)
<br> minify js off
<br> try now ?
jonnyb: nice - errors all gone for me
<br> (in safari)
luciash: minify on
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jonnyb: ik - errors back :(
luciash: i told you minify sucks ;)
<br> LOL, Tiki has gone renamed "TopLink" ?
jonnyb: svn up'ing there might help
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: red alert ! ;)
jonnyb: it's two weeks out of date
ricks99: ARg
jonnyb: :P
luciash: ah yup, not having that svn upping credentials on my hand now
<br> anyone ?
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: ?
<br> can u svn up tw.o ?
jonnyb: i think tw.o is an Oliver thing only afaik
luciash: aye
sylvieg: I do not have anymore access to tw.org
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: so i do js minify off now until svn upped, ok ?
jonnyb: i guess
<br> if editing is broken it's pretty bad
luciash: yes, it really pissed me off, i tell you :-p
jonnyb: seems ok if not logged in for me
luciash: minify off again
jonnyb: have you switched minify off again? (could you put it back on for a few minutes)
luciash: (js minify to be more precise)
jonnyb: :D
luciash: hahaha
jonnyb: i want to find the actual offending bit of js
luciash: ok it is on now
ricks99: apologies, all :(
jonnyb: it's probably fixable by changing some prefs i feel
<br> ta
luciash: goin to put the tweets module on for anonymous and registered again
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: np, hopefully it didn't leak into many RSS feeds already ;)
<br> s/RSS feeds/RSS readers/
ricks99: well, i deleted the article
<br> which now ve used a redirect insteadi realize, i should ha
<br> which now i realize i should have used a redirect instead
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: i enabled the tweets module, hopefuly it doesn't affect your debugging hunt
<br> again
jonnyb: probably not
<br> think i'm too tired to wrestle with minify stuff now, so better switch it off again for now
<br> i wonder if any of the other tw.o sites have the same problem
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luciash: ok
<br> it can be combination of more things
<br> (CDN of google, minify css there too)
jonnyb: indeed
<br> i'll try and recreate it locally
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Walrus23: good morning/evening
<br> i'm pretty new to tikiwiki, and i'm wanting to install the top horizontal menu for my site, and i'm completely lost
jonnyb: try admin/look & feel Walrus23
Walrus23: ok
jonnyb: top bar -> menu
Walrus23: found it
<br> thanks
<br> it's early here, forgive me
jonnyb: it's late here - no worries
<br> :)
Walrus23: lol
<br> now i need to change what is on the bar
<br> it isn't hard i'm sure
jonnyb: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Menu
Walrus23: lol
<br> ok, i think i'll leave it till after my next coffee
jonnyb: good plan
Walrus23: bbl
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<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Release script: Trap smarty template errors and ignore the one in tiki-mods.lib (can't see how to fix it, or why).
<br> tikiwiki: Also do chdir() so it runs in the debugger as well.
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jonnyb: nite nite all
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<br> I've looked at what was found from google
<br> !help
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