New Forum Posts: Editing FAQs - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38004
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28356 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Text version generation should also work with artice clipping - and associated fixes
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28357 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): some minor improvements to the feature to write the database translation back to language.php or custom.php
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28358 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] fix a typo with an accent via the improved Interactive Translation feature and the new translation upstream enhancements that will be used on i18n.tikiwiki.org Thank you to Louis-Philippe & Rodrigo
 New Forum Posts: Duplicating menus - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38008
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28359 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] add a translation
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28360 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): modify fields in tiki_language to tinytext instead of tinyblob
good morning
 New Forum Posts: Direct manipulation of SQL page imports, Morcego colors - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38009
 New Forum Posts: Batch upload/SQL page imports, Morcego colors - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38009
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28361 10/trunk/templates/ (blog_post_footer.tpl tiki-view_blog_post.tpl): [FIX] show blog comments again
Hey everyone
I am in need of assistance as I'm getting nuts..
Does tikiwiki 5.0 work with SMTP gmail?
anyone? >_>
orry never tried gmail
*s
hi
hi coaboa 
polom all
does one know how I offer a link to disply a random page for reading (no list of n-page titles as in random_pages)?
have you checked the list pages plugin? it might have an option
but I think this will not work from a menu-link as it needs a containing page, or do I miss something?
it->the plug-in
oh, in a menu - sorry - no idea
you could probably cook something up in jQuery quite easily (if you do that kind of thing)
ok using a switch page though... thx
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28362 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] Notices
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28363 10/third_party/jquery/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Experimental in browser jQuery DOM inspector plugin to assist in custom CSS generation (early days - lots TODO)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28364 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [NEW] Link to activate "brosho" CSS assistant on admin/look.
tikiwiki: (lots more TODO)
JoernOtt: are you still getting an error from tw.o when editing plugins?
hi, interessant brosho
 New Forum Posts: sefurl & file gallery broken links - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38010
polom luciash - i thought you'd like it :)
probably more so when it does something useful!
just saw that /templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_colo (r)box.tpl misses the R. in filename. is this intended? 
it's the same as in the php code coaboa - so let's say it is! :)
 saves a character  ;-)
is anyone else seeing this page name becoming "Array" on links in trunk?
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28365 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [ENH] Have a way to redirect tiki-view_tracker.php?itemId=yyy to a page Prefixyyy through the semantic page prefix alias feature
like tiki-editpage.php?page=Array
it definitely always happens if you use the CATORPHANS plugin
not other ones?
most odd
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28366 10/trunk/lib/search/searchlib-mysql.php: [FIX] Add sefurl to tracker item search results
I'm trying other to see what happens
others
in the debugger (from sprint $page) i see
page = Array ( [pageName]  => testPageDefault1 )
not just "test" which is the name of the page
which template generates the content for div id "top". enabled template editing but its editicon disapears on usual wiki pages but is available elsewere?
Man
I really wish SMTP function would work with tikiwiki
@jonny an OK page shows the correct page name using sprint $page
it looks like it's the catorphans plugin
@jonny - but a corrupted page shows page=Array([pagename] =>test new page)
eromneg: so have you found other plugins that cause this?
jonny: not yet - just checking when catorphans was last changed
found it
the smart $page var is assigned_by_ref to the php global $page
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28367 10/trunk/templates/advanced_search_help.tpl: [FIX]help: reintroduce some examples
so if that ever gets changed (as it does in wikiplugin_catorphans.tpl) everything breaks
madness! :D
jonny: but pages with catorphans used to work a while back - so what else has changed?
does one know which template generates the main content of a wiki page?
Is this normal when I set permissions?
Notice: Undefined index: Beta Testers in /vtiki-objectpermissions.php on line 504
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28368 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_catorphans.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Catorphans plugin: Don't use $page as it's the global for the current page name (and in smarty everything is global).
tikiwiki: Thanks eronmeg
eromneg: don't know - but fixed it (with a hammer) - need to get on with releasing 5.1!
but if "trunk was broken" then 5.x might have been too, so needed investigating
Ey guys
I just set up a wiki: http://wiki.esforces.com/tiki-index.php <-- but I noticed something a bit off
The register & forgot my password
it starts with |
Skyrdr: that bug's been fixed - not sure where
but it should be in the middle
5.1 should be good
Anyway I can alter that?
ah, thanks :)
jonny: thanks - trunk fixed now
ok, starting to launch 5.1 now
:o?
So I can upgrade soon?
not if i don't release it :)
I find tikiwiki much better than media.
The themes and quite a few options/features is something I need.
Especially permissions settings
I do hope you can tell me how to fix it though jonnyb
| I forgot my password Register <- on the link I just linked here, should be forgot my password | Register
not sure where I can alter it, quite new to this.
sorry - i don't understand and really need to release 5.1 - try starting at http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Tiki+Transforming
no worries :P
just wanted to say that the | is at the wrong place.
the symbol | that is
probably a CSS thing
Will check it out
Would love to hear how to upgrade one 5.1 gets out
Never upgraded before :)
tikiwiki that is
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28369 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Version update
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28370 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.1
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28371 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.1
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28372 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-community.tpl: [ENH] User wiki pages settings should also be in Community admin panel
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28373 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.1
"now more commits to 5.x", eh? :-)
yup, it's on it's way! :)
hmm, maybe not
release.php seems to be stuck
exactly at the point i thought i'd fixed (checking smarty templates)
how dull
i'm going to make T - maybe it's just taking longer...
ik, still 71% - i'm going in...
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28374 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: [REL] secdb
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28375 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [DOC] adding/fixing info in admin panels
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28376 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Change delimiter used in yesterday's commit for consistency (thanks jonnyb for suggestion)
5.1 tarballs nearly ready for testing - anyone around to help test? :)
the zip: http://alcns.net/dl3
(uploaded with webdav ;) )
hold on... link not working ;(
uploading the old way...
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28377 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [DOC] more admin panel cleanup
ok, webdav seems to be buggy - here they are uploaded via the browser: http://alcns.net/file4
jonnyb: I am
hi chealer - was feeling a bit lonely :)
:-)
the upload is already pretty slow (20 KB/s), maybe that's good
11 minutes remaining
well, the download from my perspective
the bz2 pre release is here: http://alcns.net/file4 - the rest are on their way
ah, you're on it - thx :)
does anyone have access to IIS 5 or 6? Microsoft says our Web Platform Installer is buggy on that, but not on IIS 7, which is the one I have
Windows XP Professional most likely (IIS 5)
I guess "anyone" would ideally be a developer, it would be painful to debug remotely
i'm not sure my alcns.net server is very happy...
i'll put them elsewhere
I'm at 50%
the gz one is still uploading here
server seems ok - 400 MB of RAM left...
polom
polomarclaporte 
files on their way to dropbox
ok, bz2 is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.tar.bz2
jonnyb: seems all right
lovely
i'm sure they all are really, but we should check
i'll start on the real tagging bit shortly
(I tried a fresh install)
the gz is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.tar.gz
the zip is about 10 MBs bigger than the bz2 - i wonder if there's an option to make it try harder?
polom ricks99 - look what i've got for you! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.zip
:)
tx. off to download
jonnyb: How do I update exactly? :)
once it's released there will be links to download the new version
:)
Isn't it already released? :s
no, that's what we're doing now
yes, it needs translating (into something humanly readable)
@jonnyb: seems good so far. will check deeper with specific features
ok, going for the tag (thing)
Ahhh
Thought 5.1 was the new one
it will be soon - in an hour or so
@Skyrdr: 5.1 is being released today
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28378 10/branches/5.x/doc/devtools/release.php: [REL] Nasty workaround for a possible bug in tiki-mods.tpl - not important so skip the check on that file
it's the copyright one that needs looking at, i think
changelog.txt is 3.5 MB
yes, you're right
covers 0.9 thru 5.1
it's the copyright that takes 15 minutes to generate
right
something to think about for 6, maybe
both should be a summary and a link to the right list on sf.net
but for both, shouldnt they be only for the specific major release?
a person who committed a cvs item for 1.9, they don't/shouldn't automatically be a copyright holder for 5.1?
maybe back to last LTS? how big would that be i wonder
yay! doing the tag thing!
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28379 10/tags/5.1/: [REL] Tagging release
woo hoo
packages ahoy!
1mb u/l ftw
the tarballs are on their way
hi ricks99. projects usually have a changelog file covering the whole history. but sometimes there are different files covering only the changes in one release.
i've tested the zip (it'll take longest to up)
all seems fine
@chealer: right, it needs to be available. but it seems to me we could save space by including on the last major release with each zip
example of a partial changelog: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.35
go go gadget?
little one's there - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.tar.bz2
ricks99: I don't remember seeing a partial changelog shipping in a distribution. I don't see much benefit neither (compared to having no changelog)
at last! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.tar.gz
i'm pretty confident all these tarballs are the same, so i'll start uploading to sf.net
i just went to http://sf.net/projects/tiki by mistake...
seems dormant?
it does
last file updates 2002
maybe its just *very* stable :)
:D
about 10 minutes to go (allegedly)
success: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5.1/tiki-5.1/
smashin!
ok, we're released!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki%205.x%20-Vulpeculae-/
only 5 hours that time! :)
nice job
i believe it used to take 5 days, so this is progress!
thanks for the help guys - good luck ricks99 with the promotion ;)
 Info: Tiki 5.1 Now Available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article103-Tiki-5-1-Now-Available
well done bot ;)
thank you jonnyb and ricks99
is somebody taking care of stable.version ?
i think that's an Oliver/changi thing
i don't have a login (luckily! :D)
re-polom
congrats for the release jonny !
hope it's ok
ok, i will :D
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28380 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Prefs: wiki_edit_icons_toggle on by default for a cleaner first impression on first clean install.
is the find feature in file galleries optional ?
can't find where to disable it
5.1 annoucements are going out.. good work all
jonnyb: why?
svn property conflict
my first one! (i didn't cause it tho)
coo - svn resolve --accept=mine-full lib seems to have done it!
 New Forum Posts: Tiki 5.1 Now Available - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=38012
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28381 10/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 28273 to 28378
is there any way to switch to use ImageMAgick, if there are both installed on the server ???
both i mean GD and ImageMagick php support
(want to try if ImageMageick can rotate images in file gals/image gals)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28382 10/trunk/lib/init/initlib.php: remove obsolete pathSeparator() (unused)
not sure luciash  - it's almost certainly hackable somewhere
thought so :)
and i expect it to be broken too as nobody seems to use it actually (ImageMagick instead of GD) when there is no easy switch
figures
can't rapheal.js do it? ;)
luciash: for image galleries it can be set in the admin panel
oh, really ?
jonnyb: yes, but how to save it ?
webdav?
mmm :/
chealer: it says something like Imagick 0: Undetected.
luciash: yes, setting "Library to use for processing images".
luciash: right. it only supports imagick 0
huh ? really ? :|
there's already imagick 2.3.0 on the server according to phpinfo
luciash: yeah, well GD is the default
i will try, maybe it is just broken detection
luciash: well which imagick version do you have?
chealer: everybody knows GD is the default
chealer: about the version see 5 lines above
luciash: oh. so yeah, that's your "problem".
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28383 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Custom CSS: Move the brosho test link next to the right pref, and give it it's own tab, as it will need more room soon.
tikiwiki: (TODO admin/look/misc is an odd place for header_custom_js to remain but i can't find a better one now)
jonnyb: maybe we'll need to introduce new admin page called "Custom Code" soon an move it there
yes, look is a muddle
all the jq stuff should be elsewhere too
jonnyb: or Look & Feel could be renamed to Customize
just works
but no extra option to rotate images or else 
maybe the option is not present in the tpls anymore ?
luciash: l&f is more friendly i think, and there is a lot of looking and feeling to do in tiki
ah, no, it seems to be broken, it switched back to GD automagically
:)
jonnyb: no objections as i introduced it
:)
it would just describe more accurately what it does mostly now
well, most of the jquery stuff is "feel" i think
ok, i meant the code textareas and theme/look customization
maybe just their own tab?
(and shorter tab labels)
btw Image Galleries seems to win over File Galleries still in the Colorbox - Image Gals support displaying of the description / name of the image in the Colorbox, where File Gals do not
(just tested)
jonnyb: yes, shorter is better for tabs
odd
should be fairly simple to copy how
i thinks so too
Man
I start to hate Filezilla
All it does is use the max u/l speed and screwing up my connection
losing the net
Skyrdt: wrong channel ;)
I know
Im just making a point
:p
If you have any other FTP software to share, feel free to tell me.
Im making a point as I was uploading the new tikiwiki
Through filezilla
he knows ;)
was OS are you on Skyrdt ?
w7
Skyrdt: try ftp addon for firefox
Skyrdt: fireftp
Mm, never tried those before
Skyrdt: looks like full featured ftp client
thats odd
Trying to update my tikiwiki
but the installer folder gives a 403
Skyrdt: and has synchronize option iirc
neat
Is it normal for file overwrites to change the ways pictures behaves?
The main page was a thumb images (resized), but ever since I uploaded the 5.1 files, it changed to full size
hmm, not normal
try tiki-admin_system.php?do=all
http://wiki.esforces.com/tiki-index.php
Do you see a big image luciash  ?
yes
The image has been set to thumbnail with a max size of 600
yet it keeps showing the large image
I just double checked
the cache doesn't seem to work
Doesn't matter what I fill in, it ignores the settings I put in
is it image gal or file gal picture ?
ah, it seems none of them, just image uploaded via wiki page in a dir, right ?
I simple use the "add image" by url in the navbar when editing the page.. using {img src="
It worked fine on 5.0, it started to ignore it when I uploaded the new files
hmm, strange, i am not aware of any changes for the img plugin between 5.0 and 5.1
maybe someone else will know
Full cmd: {img src="http://www.esforces.com/uploads/images/potw/fire-the-big-laz0r.jpg" thumb="mouseover" max="100"}
try thumb="y"
It was originally thumb y but doesnt work either
ah
{img src="http://www.esforces.com/uploads/images/potw/fire-the-big-laz0r.jpg" thumb="y" height="600" width="600" max="600"}
doesnt work either
it fully ignores the new height/width settings
Skyrdr: is your .htaccess up to date? (if you have one)
probably not connected actually
up to date?
Lets see
compared to _htaccess
but you're linking to "normal" files
I just renamed _htaccess to .htaccess
sometimes updates break the sefurl stuff on filegals
doesnt seem to effect the image
did you run setup.sh? (sorry if covered before)
hmm, looks like a bug
there's no width or height being written to the tag (again)
luciash: hum. how did you manage to set it to Imagick 0?
Skyrdr: i think you'll have to resize the image for now - it's kinder anyway ;)
we'll have to fix for 5.2
grmbl, seems "Rebuild thumbnails" is not good idea in 5.x Image Galleries (might it be related to the Skyrdr's problem ?) - now i can't get the thumbnails back, displays full images instead too :(
only re-uploading the image works
actually deleting and uploading again, hmm
*sad face*
but you're not using image or file galleries are you Skyrdr ?
not atm, just installed tikiwiki last week
chealer: nope
luciash / jonnyb 
When I edit a user module,  and save it
and I renamed the title, etc.. should it create a whole new module
?
As that does for me
sounds possible
for name, probably not title (i would think)
It seems when I edit a user module and change the name
it creates a whole new user module.
with that name, and leaves the old one intact.
actually nothing helps... the thumbnails in my image galleries do not work anymore no matter what i re-set
:(
thanks for the release guys
no probs sylvieg 
next time I will have to do ...
sounds like there might be a problem with the img plugin (again)
what is it simple and not to risky?
no, hopefully changi will be back :)
don't know - sounds like if you specify src it doesn't use the height & width params you asked for in the tag
btw I discovered that the plugin img with border does not work with url - the width is only calculated for local path
i fixed it last time ;)
also i thing if you ask for centred it goes weird
someone's been messing with it
for instance src=dl5&display=y will nto work
no, the plugin params
mmm
Should I go back to 5.0 to avoid the img problem? ^^
thumb="y" height="600" width="600"?? why do you put thumb and width
seems to me a little bit conflicting
Skyrdr: you can just try to replace the lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php with the version from Tiki 5.0
sylvieg: I think both to see if it works
*tried
Sorry luciash 
Doesnt work
the wikiplugin_img seems to be exactly the same filesize as 5.0
*5.1 I mean
weird it worked for you in 5.0 then, must be some lib probably
modified
this works for me {img fileId=25 width=100}
Skyrdr: did you clear teh browser cache
sylvieg: but it does no thumbnail generation, just hard-resize
sylvieg: and src= is different, no file gal image
luciash: need to catch your problem... was just coming in
src is buggy
sylvieg: my problem is different - image galleries thumbnails stopped to work after hitting "rebuild thumbnails"
Yes sylvieg.
No changes
but luciash did you change from gd to imageclick - trying to read all irc
the mess with images - is browser cache .. sometimes going away a day is enough to fix the problem....
sylvieg: yes, but it didn't work really... it changed back to GD
i cleared all the caches several times
now i deleted the gallery as a whole and trying with new gallery
still the thumbnails are not generated as expected in the new gallery, weird :(
they show up as full size copy of the image uploaded
I have the same problem here - thumbnail size does not seem to be considered
image code is so old..
weird is it worked with the default 80x80 thumbnail size until i tried to change and hit rebuild thumbnails :-/
it's fresh Tiki 5.0 install
i will try with 5.1 later soon i guess
I am testing in trunk and it is not working
:(
to many bugs for a week end - weed ends are supposed to be fun ...
every day is supposed to be fun! :D
:)
sylvieg: tried fresh new gallery after re-setting all the custom sizes in Image gals admin to none and it works again
yeah, rebuild thumbnails is broken
night
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28384 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [ENH] Brosho: More on custom CSS assistant. Now closable and copies changes to the DOM into the pref box
maybe better would be to focus to support features by purpose/media (image gals, video gals, audio gals, other files gals) than to make huge conditions and try to serve all in one ?
or would it be any better to focus on fixing trackers code and then to create custom trackers which would use *only* specific fields needed by the media/file type to create galleries + custom plugin aliases and apply them by profiles
?
i am not sure file galleries can itself cover all purpose needs and be performance wise and error prone enough at the same time
no, i would rather go the other way - add a file attribute available to any tiki object
and sort filegals out (ha ha)
files are so important all over the place
u mean like custom fields for any tiki object (including file gals ?) ?
or tracker field hooks in other words
no, that would be too recursive!
heh
i can imagine that ! *g*
so any object can have a (or some) file(s)
like every object could "have" trackers
probaly not for 6 tho :(
i mean what if any tiki feature (object) could be linked to any tracker field and handle that ?
tracker item, i would think
or, re-use that
collections of objects have trackers
like calendars
it would be also great if any tiki object could use standard tpls or wiki page templates a la pretty trackers ;)
then we could say pretty file galleries ;)
or pretty gals for short ;) geeee :D
sounds expensive
i'd like to rewrite pretty trackers in php for a start
in manpower, money or performance ?
performance
actually doing it would require manpower
hmm :)
pretty trackers are not php now ?
no, it ends up in a horrid smarty tpl
tracker_pretty_item.tpl should all be native php (for instance)
but also tracker_item_field_value.tpl and the other one
they already are in trklib
eh, never seen that file
moslty
tracker_pretty_item.tpl i mean
^mostly
so the wiki tpl is included in a tpl that is included... etc
lots of ram
it would be great if we could actually measure some performance improvements e.g. on a dedicated metrics.tw.o
it is all just too virtual for me and i don't see much difference in terms of performance compared to older tiki versions like 4.x or 3.x
it's always been like this
yes
the tracker code is so scary no one wants to work in there
all php files which has more than 1000 lines of code are too scary for me ;)
technically true, i think - but that's most of tiki
we lack some limits ;)
or fourth rule: make it readable :-p
(by humans)
:D
sounds tricky
just joking
nn