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| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r28385 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [FIX] Height and width for external images missing - use getimagesize instead of Image class for these. Should avoid squeezed descriptions and other problems. | [05:50] |
| tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r28386 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Add currency option for currency amount tracker field. Allows for display of custom (eg, non-monetary) currency codes and would be compatible with newer intl functions.
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| jonnyb | Polom Sunday
are you there sylvieg? there's a little trackerfilter issue... | [14:30] |
| coaboa | hello | [14:32] |
| jonnyb | hi coaboa | [14:33] |
| coaboa | jonnyb: is it tiki-index_p.tpl which produces the maincontent of a wiki page? | [14:38] |
| jonnyb | no, i think that's the print one
try tiki-show_page.tpl or maybe not - check out http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Overview | [14:38] |
| coaboa | ok thx. If I need to link hardcoded to a specific wiki page, can I replace $page with its name? | [14:42] |
| jonnyb | that would make all pages have that name i think - i don't follow
what are you trying to do? | [14:43] |
| coaboa | try to load within a new php file only a wikipage containing eg. a logo, a module and a search form, nothing else | [14:46] |
| jonnyb | how about making a perspective with just those things showing? and putting that in an iframe?
what version tiki? | [14:48] |
| coaboa | trunk
what i want is a "web 2.0 like "mini entry portal" wich reduces the sites otions to a minimum but on entering all options should appear. *options | [14:48] |
| jonnyb | sounds like a perspective to me | [14:51] |
| coaboa | could this switched automatically?
my problem is, that I can not call the right templayte to only display the content of div id="top". *template | [14:51] |
| jonnyb | i don't see a div id="top"
header-top | [14:54] |
| coaboa | its inside the div "tiki-center" but without wikitopline, page-bar etc. | [14:56] |
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| coaboa | my current working solution is to load tiki-site_header.tpl including a custom menu to a random page, a centered logo and a searchbar... but
doing that way causes the visitor an click for reading a random page to jump to a wikipage containing the wikiplugin_randompages (as listpages do not offer random ;-() and the has to click there again to finaly start reading | [14:57] |
| jonnyb | sounds complicated, good luck! :) | [15:01] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28389 10/trunk/lib/validators/validator_distinct.php: [FIX] Validators: No trackerId param for check_field_value_exists() | [15:05] |
| coaboa | shouldn't be. What about copying tiki-index_p.tpl and replacing $page with $page_local? how would I set "$page = Miniportal" within a template? | [15:06] |
| chealer | polom | [15:06] |
| coaboa | hi | [15:06] |
| jonnyb | polom chealer
sorry coaboa - i don't follow (and don't have time to, sorry) - i'd try using perspectives as i said | [15:15] |
| coaboa | ok | [15:16] |
| chealer | hi jonnyb | [15:22] |
| coaboa | how can I save the current set of active prefs to a perspective? | [15:33] |
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| coaboa | hi joern | [15:34] |
| jonnyb | not sure you can, but you only need to set the ones you want to change | [15:34] |
| JoernOtt | lo Carsten | [15:34] |
| jonnyb | hi JoernOtt | [15:34] |
| JoernOtt | brb WindowsUpdate+Reboot | [15:34] |
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| JoernOtt | re | [15:42] |
| coaboa | Joern: weist Du wie man "nur" eine wikipage wikipagename (firefinder sagt es sei div id="top") darstellt? | [15:49] |
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| coaboa | also ohne alles nur den eigentlichen Inhalt einer Seite evtl. mit einem Modul und einem Wikiplugin. | [15:53] |
| JoernOtt | was willst Du erreichen? | [15:59] |
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| coaboa | eine einstiegsseite die nur ein logo eine suchfunktion und einen link zu einer random page hat. habe ein php gemcht das tiki-site_header.tpl lädt und darstellt.
nur ist die random page lediglich ein link auf eine wikiseite die ein random_pages plugin enthält. ist ein schritt zu viel. list_pages kann leider kein random. | [16:02] |
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| coaboa | hi marc | [16:05] |
| JoernOtt | Wenn Du auf test.ott-consult.de gehst, kriegst Du ja immer die homepage
warum nicht einfach sowas machen und ein plugin bauen statt random image random page | [16:05] |
| coaboa | ich bekomme da grad nur ne weiße page ;-) | [16:07] |
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| JoernOtt | hehe, du must auch in trunk rein
die startseite ist mit absicht leer | [16:09] |
| coaboa | also ich bräuchte eine page mit einem directlink zu einer zufallsseite eine suchfunktion und ein logo. jonnyb meinte es ging mit perspectives, aber das scheint mir mit kanonen auf spatzen geschossen zu sein | [16:11] |
| JoernOtt | nur ein link oder soll direkt die Seite angezeigt werden | [16:12] |
| coaboa | direkt die seite, das mit dem link hab ich über ein menue gelöst aber direct zum lesen geht irgendwie nicht, hatte gehofft plugin_listpages zu nehmen aber das hat ausgerechnet kein random
sonst wäre der "preview ja ok und ich würde drunter ein "read more" anbringen so kam ich auf den trichter ein module random_pages mit max page 1 auf ner wikipage zu positionieren, aber die wll sich nicht einfach so des drumherums entledigen lassen ;-) | [16:13] |
| JoernOtt | ich würde einfach aus dem wikiplugin_include in wikiplugin_includerandom bauen
wenn das drumherum aber nur für registered sichtbar ist | [16:15] |
| coaboa | besser wäre listpages um random erweitert würde
*wenn also die vorschaltpage hat ein deutlich abweichendes layout... | [16:16] |
| JoernOtt | aber schau dir doch mal den testserver an, ohne login hat der keine module sichtbar sondern nur die homepage
und erst wenn man sich anmeldet, kommt der Rst dazu *rest | [16:18] |
| coaboa | schon klar.
ich glaub ich steh auf dem schlauch ;-) | [16:18] |
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| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28390 10/trunk/comments.php: [FIX] Notice (check perm after forum_mode)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28391 10/trunk/templates/tracker_validator.tpl: [FIX] Tracker validator: Use validator submitHandler to double check ajax validations have all really finished. Tested on Safari and Firefox only so far. | [17:24] |
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| sylvieg | jonnyb: | [17:46] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28392 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] partial rollback 28323 | [17:46] |
| jonnyb | hi sylvieg | [17:46] |
| sylvieg | sorry about the commit
can you try | [17:47] |
| jonnyb | will do | [17:47] |
| sylvieg | I need sometimes to rebuild a complete test case | [17:47] |
| jonnyb | that's almost impossible - so many options | [17:50] |
| sylvieg | I have a very big trackerfilter somewhere but I forgot which base ... too many bases - too many parallels devs | [17:51] |
| jonnyb | seems to fix my test (just a simple one)
thanks :) | [17:53] |
| sylvieg | sorry again | [17:54] |
| jonnyb | no worries - thanks for the fix, i've got lost in that bit too (must add some comments next time) | [17:56] |
| sylvieg | tracker is nightmare - for instance Nelson question about trackerlist in pretty tracker... I never thought before at this case - and I am more thatn surprised it works - smarty is not recursive
the simple little tracker gadgets has become an airport... | [17:57] |
| JoernOtt | hehe, that is the way software goes
you start with a simple mini thing and end up with a complex software package | [17:59] |
| sylvieg | tracker is more than complex....
sylvieg will work seriously on trackerfilter to be able to filter a date fielg between 2 dates jonnyb: I "hope" changi run the utf8 convert script ... and that the script is buggy because it changes the path - and I hope changi has a save of the database ;-) | [18:00] |
| jonnyb | indeed
the filename is a varchar, so would be re-encoded by the script afaik | [18:04] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28393 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Brosho: Add draggable and resizable. Refactor JS into separate file and other fixes. | [18:13] |
| sylvieg | so means that all the path columns are bugged now? | [18:13] |
| jonnyb | any with non ascii-7 chars in might be - that's why they're best avoided | [18:14] |
| sylvieg | so means that all the path - must be blob? | [18:18] |
| jonnyb | probably safer, but sounds odd | [18:18] |
| sylvieg | I think is has beeing notice in the wiki_atta because of this funny character around the path
it is probably not a problem in the other path | [18:20] |
| jonnyb | any idea why they have that? just sounds like trouble | [18:21] |
| sylvieg | do you sept7 on devel list | [18:21] |
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| sylvieg | because he had a parsing problem... | [18:21] |
| escamoteur | Hi all
How can I quote a forum message in a reply? | [18:21] |
| jonnyb | should be fairly easy to add a test for if there's no file there, try the un/re-encoded version | [18:22] |
| sylvieg | but this is dirty | [18:23] |
| jonnyb | not too bad if it gets resaved into the database
probably safer than trying to guess-re-encode the string | [18:24] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r28394 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] typo in path to phpCAS library :(
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r28395 10/branches/5.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX/bp28394] typo in phpCAS library :( | [18:25] |
| jonnyb | i need to go and eat - maybe back later | [18:26] |
| sylvieg | a+ | [18:27] |
| jonnyb | sorry escamoteur - not sure - try checking out the {QUOTE()} plugin?
:) sylvieg | [18:27] |
| sylvieg | escamoteur: the quote plugin? | [18:27] |
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| escamoteur | So I need this plugin to be able to quote? I will see | [18:29] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28396 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_randominclude.php: [ENH] Plugin to include a random page | [18:43] |
| JoernOtt | coaboa: Try the wikiplugin_randominclude for your purpose
Include it in HomePage as the only statement it will include another random page each time | [18:44] |
| sylvieg | :-) | [18:45] |
| JoernOtt | maybe check, if a user is logged in and display a differnt page
see the original HomePage how to do that | [18:45] |
| escamoteur | hmm, my problem is that my forum threads are missing a "quote" button | [18:48] |
| sylvieg | escamoteur: you can probably add in admin toolbars the quote plugin | [18:54] |
| escamoteur | I had it in there but still the button was missing
normally it should support basic quoting with > by default | [18:55] |
| sylvieg | toolbars seems to be inactive for forums :-( | [18:56] |
| escamoteur | seems so, any idea what can be the reason? | [18:59] |
| CIA-65 | tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28397 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] forgot to update the prefs for wikiplugin_randominclude | [19:02] |
| sylvieg | escamoteur: aps unfinished feature - ask jonnyb when he will be back | [19:08] |
| escamoteur | thanks, hope he gets back soon | [19:12] |
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| coaboa | JoernOtt:cool + thx a lot ;-) | [20:54] |
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| christian15213 | hi
is anyone here from tiki? hello | [21:27] |
| JoernOtt | all of us ;-) | [21:31] |
| christian15213 | you are with tiki
i have a question is there anyway you guys can work on a bridge for joomla I could gaurntee you thousands more downloads if there were possible | [21:37] |
| JoernOtt | what do you mean by bridge?
All the features of joomla exist in tikiwiki but doing an automatic importer for all features is a lot of work we have some stuff to help import/convert from media wiki | [21:38] |
| christian15213 | no
that is not what I mean I have a site running on joomla and I want a wiki page for my site... So what I want to do it set up a tab that goes to i.e. my tikiwiki wiki and then if I hit home it will take me home to my site all via a single menu... this is called a bridge right now there are HORRIBLE solutions for a wiki page but you guys have a great php solution if you built this bridge people would be downloading and installing your cms for the wiki and whatever else you provide see what I mean | [21:44] |
| JoernOtt | I doubt that it makes sense to have two complete cms and make a bridge just to use one feature of the first in the second
My way would ask someone to build a joomla module using the tikiwiki stuff which is LGPL by the way | [21:47] |
| christian15213 | so you don't think it is a good idea?
do you know how much attention you would recieve | [21:58] |
| JoernOtt | it is unrealistic
tiki is far more than just a wiki | [22:01] |
| so, I think most developers will concentrate on improving the current features and adding new features instead of building a plugin/module for another software to make it possible to integrate tiki into that software | [22:06] | |
| sylvieg | and by wiki what do you means the syntax? or the history? or ... which features is missing to joomal | [22:07] |
| christian15213 | the whole wiki concept
for example, if I want to have site instructions or tutorials I like the media wiki (what I am familiar with) setup if users feel they could add something quick and easy they could just make on the fly edits and improve the tutorial joomla doesn't offer or integrate well with anything like that | [22:11] |
| sylvieg | why do you stay with Joomla? | [22:12] |
| christian15213 | wish you guys would work on the project it would help you get your name out there
because I have invested over 400 dollars with my site already with extensions and things templates i can't go back now thanks guys i will try to find another solution. | [22:12] |
| sylvieg | As JoernOtt said I do not see why we will do that - but importing - and have easy templating/ styling are sure in our goal
the pleasure to have all in one - at least we know what tiki is doing - with joomal I suppose we have to know the modules... christian15213: do you have an url? to see if your style/layout is easy to do with tiki | [22:14] |
| christian15213 | yes but there is no way it is based off of gantry mootools fushion menus There would be no way
there are a lot of bridges for PHPBB, media wiki, etc. I would highly suggest giving it a consideration all you're doing is setting up a menu bridge and a consitant login for each other. that is it. | [22:18] |
| sylvieg | but phpbb and mediawiki are doing ... pure guess.. 10% the features tiki is doing | [22:20] |
| christian15213 | at least people would get to see what you have to offer
and they are using your full product so why not? In fact it makes no sense not ot to* | [22:20] |
| sylvieg | we need people like you who knows what they want to do to devel the code - If you want to devel in tiki - you are welcome - because myself I can not figure out waht I will devel
sylvieg does not know joomla sylvieg knows only mediawiki and drupal a little bit | [22:22] |
| christian15213 | hmmm, I just use the stuff but let me see if I can get some support via the joomla forums
are you a team leader here? | [22:24] |
| sylvieg | I am a tiki admin since 2005 - JoernOtt is a new promising contributor | [22:26] |
| JoernOtt | hehe, I am working with tiki since 1.9 | [22:27] |
| sylvieg | i DID NOT KNOW THAT
sorry about the caps | [22:27] |
| JoernOtt | but most of the stuff I did was too specific to contribute | [22:27] |
| sylvieg | why I am knowing you just now?
s/now/these last months ah ok | [22:27] |
| JoernOtt | because i did not han around on IRC so much
*hang | [22:28] |
| sylvieg | good - you begin to kill the specific
sylvieg trying to limit the specific to a minimum because after it is so painful to upgrade - even if it takes me more time to dev... | [22:28] |
| JoernOtt | I did a membership management for my club including the bookkeeping and importing bank statements from our local bank
maybe some of it can go into a more generic accounting module but it replaced our antique adabasD + excel + commercial accounting stuff | [22:29] |
| sylvieg | membership ... we have a lot of plugins .. niclone will commit the invite one pretty soon | [22:30] |
| JoernOtt | well, people have to sign a paper to make things legal around here in germany | [22:30] |
| sylvieg | importing... tracker importing can be improved | [22:30] |
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| JoernOtt | do you know a bit about accounting? | [22:31] |
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| sylvieg | ahah .. so perhaps we need a 'secure validation' in tiki?
no I am bad with accounting | [22:31] |
| JoernOtt | I still believe that it would take me years to do that with trackers | [22:31] |
| sylvieg | I just used the paypal feature in tiki these last month
if you feel so - so ok - the feature is probably missing | [22:31] |
| JoernOtt | like when a couple is transferring theirt monthly fee to our bank account in one sum, paying for the current month and for the next 2 in advance
we have a split transaction of EUR 48 on one side (bank) and 2x 24 EUR on both member individual accounts | [22:32] |
| sylvieg | the membership plugin can do that (even if it is very weel implemented) | [22:33] |
| JoernOtt | and at the beginning of the month all 8 EUR monthly fees are deducted from a members account and credited to the membership-fees account
but ofc only for active members | [22:33] |
| sylvieg | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginMemberPayment | [22:34] |
| JoernOtt | and if a member wants to know how much he owes us or how much he has paid in advance, he can look at the balance of his individual account | [22:34] |
| sylvieg | tiki-payment.php does that
the 8 euro and discount are still not in trunk even if we are closer each day.. | [22:35] |
| JoernOtt | atm, we are automagically importing the bank statement each month and by analysing the accounts and amounts we have a pretty good automatic thing to do the transactions | [22:38] |
| sylvieg | recently I did membership - you buy n tracker items with a discout for the x first subscribers. with the payment feature - it took me a couple of days to figure out - but only 80 lines of specific code | [22:38] |
| JoernOtt | and every member can view the financial situation of our club | [22:38] |
| sylvieg | - ok with you we are paypal oriented now - paypal gives us back the confiramtion
thanks to lph - he did a nice job so far | [22:39] |
| JoernOtt | well, germany has a very well developed banking system, so 99.9% is done via bank transfer | [22:39] |
| sylvieg | ... tiki needs more payment way intereface but all the code structuration is here | [22:40] |
| JoernOtt | and I need to look at the accounting part
because the actual movement of the money is only a small part of the cashiers work | [22:40] |
| sylvieg | JoernOtt: if you want to integrate something generic to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Payment you are welcome - even if it is German bank - I can help you to understand the structure | [22:41] |
| JoernOtt | atm, I lack a bit of time | [22:42] |
| sylvieg | btw the payment is new feaute - was not in 1.9 | [22:42] |
| JoernOtt | but it is still on my agenda
i know :-) I follow the mailing lists for a few years now | [22:42] |
| sylvieg | but lph wrote a very nice layout of code
and if we can consult each other to keep the layout clean and generic - we can go very far ;-) | [22:43] |
| JoernOtt | well, this is the main challenge for such a large project
cleaning code removing redundant solutions | [22:44] |
| sylvieg | payment is clean - it is new ;-)
but yes - and to find the funding to clean the code is a major challenge | [22:45] |
| JoernOtt | well, I still did not get around to look at the smtp stuff, as I have to work out a postgres cluster solution for a customer
but this is on my agenda as well | [22:46] |
| sylvieg | postgres ... good luck' | [22:46] |
| JoernOtt | thx
the problem is that they use postgres 8.4 with centos 5.5 | [22:46] |
| sylvieg | seems simple - but a lot of suprise | [22:47] |
| JoernOtt | my brother is working with postgres for some time
so we can help each other | [22:47] |
| sylvieg | but the problem is to identify wher tiki has dirty queries | [22:47] |
| JoernOtt | well, it is not with tiki | [22:47] |
| sylvieg | ?? | [22:48] |
| JoernOtt | but they need a scalable solution for their own software | [22:48] |
| sylvieg | pdo and adodb are limitted | [22:48] |
| JoernOtt | and they need manpower
I believe 99% is coded in C | [22:48] |
| sylvieg | I do not follow you | [22:48] |
| JoernOtt | I am a mercenary :-) Doing everything for a customer paying me
not only coding I have been working with a lot of databases for years Oracle, MySQL, Postgres, Access, AdabasD, whatever so this is just a project to earn some money | [22:49] |
| sylvieg | but so far I know .. tiki creates queries that are not ok with postgres - the install stuff is easy to solve | [22:50] |
| JoernOtt | yep
Tiki is MySqL centered | [22:50] |
| sylvieg | if you can put back tiki/postgres can be great | [22:51] |
| JoernOtt | but their software has nothing to do with tiki | [22:51] |
| sylvieg | the devs here are lunix mysql' | [22:51] |
| JoernOtt | well, I prefer mysql over postgres | [22:51] |
| sylvieg | if we have only one good dev on [postgres - it should be ok
none of my customers are on efancy hosting - so they are mysql I do not like the repair table every each other .. | [22:51] |
| JoernOtt | I have a few big companies who prefer oracle
but the smaller ones mostly take what I offer to them because they don't care | [22:52] |
| sylvieg | we need only one with tiki to have this happens | [22:53] |
| JoernOtt | some go for Micro$oft, so I recently did a course management software in Access | [22:53] |
| sylvieg | oh my good and you are on open source | [22:54] |
| JoernOtt | well, I have to earn money somehow | [22:54] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg has educated customers tha ask only for import | [22:55] |
| JoernOtt | during the last 2 years I developet a commission tool for a big electronics company to manage the mobile phone commissions
*developed it started out as a proof of concept in Access and it became so complex that they are now managing bank credits in russia, pay-tv in germany and mobile phone commissions in all european subsidiaries even with a multilingual GUI but they paid well and maybe for v7 they will hire me again | [22:55] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg thinks that working in opensource does not lower your income - but flattens your income - there is always soembody that needs help
but when I say working in open source I mean commiting - not using - that is a dead end for a consultant | [22:58] |
| JoernOtt | well, I use open source since I started my business in 92
we have Linux servers from the beginning and a lot of other things like tiki or openoffice but I am always open for everything | [23:00] |
| sylvieg | but not contributing back is not working
somebody has to give back to have the opensource working | [23:02] |
| JoernOtt | hehe, in the old days there were quite a lot of rpms for suse
with my or my brothers name on it | [23:02] |
| sylvieg | perhaps you are lucky because xxx can live without you - but ..
falimy business - good for you | [23:02] |
| JoernOtt | no, we both run our own companies
but help each other | [23:03] |
| sylvieg | family 'business' as every body is thinking/going the same way
my husban is proud when comiting to linux. | [23:04] |
| JoernOtt | my priority is not programming but process design/optimisation, so my contributions are not that big or noticeable, but there are a few things out there which are useful to others | [23:07] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg still did not finish the custom language patch and the multiple filter on same field in trackerfilter .. :-(
nice to talk to you JoernOtt | [23:08] |
| JoernOtt | likewise
I am off to bed, 6hrs to go until I have to be back in the office | [23:08] |
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