yes nice!
it is the only part I try to achieve with the todo table
how to notify somebody before something happens
sylvieg: just to be sure, how would you formulate it in French?
if you can fit the soeting happens in the todo table 
informe l'utilisateur du changement avant .. que ce changemetn arrive
ricks99: I think http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Permission+Cleanup answers your question
ricks99: in the Responsabilities section, "category to verify if any of the categories in which the object is in contain any permission, "
sylvieg: par exemple, "Informe l'utilisateur du changement avant 1 semaine que ce changement arrive"?
ricks99: in the code comments
* Category permissions apply from the moment one of the categories affected
 * to the object contains one permission. All categories are equal and permissions
 * from all categories are cumulated.
I am not an English speaker..
chealer: yes
"responsibilities section" ???
ricks99: the Responsibilities section of http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Permission+Cleanup sorry
sylvieg: hum, that sounds somewhat wrong
waht the categ comments
s/waht/what
that seems ok, but in practice i can't get it to work :-(
surely i must be doing something wrong, otherwise it would have come to surface long before me
sylvieg: no, the French formulation
so perhaps it is my English.. for me the comments say it is a different behavior from 3
chealer: ??
so if I have object in Catgory A + B, and user with perm for A (but not B ) , user will still b able to see the page?
yuck. not what i want
my next tikifest will be only if lph is there - I need to understand the perm layer
ricks99: ask lph for clarification
sylvieg: no problem, i think he's been on *every* tikifest so far ;)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28581 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] formulation of upcoming status change warning input
tikiwiki: hoping this one is right
dont see him online.. time for old fashioned email...
ricks99: it doesn't make any sense to me
yeh lph is responsive usually 
ricks99: that's what I understand, yes.
will p ing him and report back. tx all
ricks99: why it would be like that for purpose i mean...
sylvieg: so, there is no general Tiki interface to cron?
we'd need an at job
for a calendar event reminder
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28582 10/trunk/ (lib/credits/creditslib.php templates/tiki-admin_credits.tpl): [DOC] Better wording
can someone pm lph's email to me? the two i have are being returned :(
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28583 10/trunk/ (11 files in 7 dirs): [NEW] website and email optional fields for comments
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28584 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-admin_credits.tpl tiki-payment.tpl): [DOC] add doc links
 New Forum Posts: blog images for anonymous - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38142
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r28585 10/trunk/lib/credits/creditslib.php: [FIX] Some quality stuff
 New Forum Posts: TW for process management/documentation á la ISO9001 etc? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38145
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r28586 10/trunk/templates/ (blog_post_postbody_content.tpl blog_post_related_content.tpl): [MOD] For more design flexibility, instead of a hr, the related-content div top border can be made visible per theme if desired. Also, p.editdate changed to div so normal paragraph margins aren't applied.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28587 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-calendar_new.tpl: [FIX]calendar: when looking that more than a month show also the events of the other months
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r28588 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [MOD] Some layout details for blog post related content.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28589 10/trunk/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl: missing to 28472
hello
I´d need a list of all wikipages and do not find where in the docs to look for it
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28590 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [NEW]TRACKERLIST: can display a list of items in a calendar table view like mod-calendar_new: can use one or two date fields of the tracker
fabricius: tiki-listpages.php
chealer I am almost finish with what I need for tracker for calendar - just need to complete the todo for a date value in an item - and I have a calendar event reminder
polom
simple question: were there any security fixes between 5.0 and 5.1 ?
I do not think so - but I am not sure - 5.1 was motivateg by the utf8
sylvieg: tx, so no hurry to upgrade :)
sylvieg: oh, so a reminder of a calendar event in the form of a tracker item?
as sylvieg said
TikiFesters slowly waking up to closing day of TikiFestBigBlueButton
does the BBB work fine already ?
the sound mainly
it seems to work well. there's some lag, maybe 5 seconds
2 hours on bbb sound and I was obliged to go out - painful
that's ok, i checked-in several times and didn't catch u up guys with working sound
i will try now
when there's somebody except Fred :-p
and now there is music..
wondering where the music comes from
no more music, just me and sylvie
I think the music is only when you are alone
btw, freshly launched Tiki site with custom theme: http://www.kincwood.cz
test
sieferer
sers sieferer
wana cup of coffee?
latte?
latte macchiato
i go up and make two
ok, letzts have a short break
kk
in 5.0 i get watch notification emails from wiki pages with broken (no encoding) UTF-8
am i missing something ? is it configurable somewhere ?
watches from articles they're fine otoh
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28591 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] translations via interactive translations on i18n.tikiwiki.org made by Cyril Gallant
Attn Tikifesters: can you improve this writeup http://bit.ly/9p8FF9 Tx!
hello everyone
luciash: I think this one was corrected in 5.1
sylvieg: ah, that would be good reason to upgrade then :)
hello RavenC 
hi luciash
hey, i'm trying to set the /tiki-searchresults.php to the frontpage, but the urlindex doesn't work
you need feature_custom_home enabled
or just add the search module to your regular home page
why is nobody in BBB yet ?
luciash - doing tests?  what addy ?
addy ?
url
http://live.tikiwiki.org
ricks99: mh okey, now i have some custom home, but still not the url which i pointed to
>learn addy as slang for URL
OK, here we go!
:)
junkY_: do u have the checkbox enabled above the input field for the custom URL ?
yes
hmm, weird, yesterday there was guy who reported it works for him
and than the url: http://192.168.11.30/tiki/tiki-searchresults.php
cleared Tiki cache ?
tried that too, doesn't help. still the "custom home"
looks like this: http://img237.imageshack.us/f/unbenanntre.png/
u dont need the full path - url is relative to your tiki install
the url field simply has no effect. instead it takes the upper choice. i can switch between wiki, file gallery and custom home
what version btw ?
it was 5.1 for that user
5.1
does that feature work in a later version?
junkY_: here is the realted talk → http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2010-08-17,Tue&sel=153#l149
a pittythat the custom_home feature doesn't help in my case :/
r u simply tring to make the "search" page your site's home page?
yes
TikiFesters have arrived in the CodeFactory
@junkY_: why not simply add the search module to your home page?
no clue
the search module is in the top menu
junkY_: here is the realted talk → http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2010-08-17,Tue&sel=153#l149
but it's not the same
luciash: i have already read and tried that but it doesn't help
if all u want is put the search on your home page, http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginModule and add the search module
luciash: it just gives me the "custom home" as home
ricks99: i have created a page including "{MODULE(module=>search)/} " using the wysiwyg editor. but now i only see the text ^^
i have switched to "source" before pasting
I dont think "search" is a valid module name (at least not a stanard module).
Pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/module
thank you! and sorry for being so stupid..
no problem
ricks99: i can't find a search module with category selection
wouldn't it be easier to select the "tiki-searchresults.php" as home?
i think it's not that easy to rebuild the search page
category filter is available only *after* displaying results.
easier, y, but page will appear as "0" resuls  for hoem pag
if u *really* want the tiki-searchresults as ur home page,
add  the {REDIRECT} plugin on HomePage and just point to tiki-searchresults.php
lol, i have just experimented with a regular php redirect :D
just my $0.02
tiki-searchresults.php doesn't give any 0 matches
it looks fine
k
mh does it really give a result?
when you click on "search" just after you entered the site you don't get a result either
what site ? it searches for text strings contained in your Tiki content
kewl. didnt know that :
there's just one last problem. the redirect plugin doesn't seem to accept URLs, just pagenames
or maybe i have a typo..
it does, just put tiki-searchresults.php there
junkY_: you misunderstood, preference tikiIndex from the dropdown "Custom home" is not feature_custom_home
ah, sorry, nope, it is related
junkY_: you are right, there is definitely bug in the custom URL setting
luciash: :(
well, the redirect thing is a workaround for me now
but the trick with REDIRECT wiki plugin should work
what do you think ? should we fix the bug or remove the feature in favor of the redirect plugin ?
fix the bug.
mh, got disconnected
have you seen the message with the URL=URL thing of the redirect plugin?
what message?
that there should be a hint on the redirect plugin page to how to use it for urls
because you have to change page= to url=
this is included in the plugin editor.
edit u click th e ( ? ) button?
i think i can't edit that page: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginRedirect
sylvieg: back to Switch Lang, regarding http://tikiwiki.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/tiki/templates/modules/mod-switch_lang.tpl?r1=1.4&r2=1.4.12.1&pathrev=BRANCH-1-9
why could anonymous have the right to switch lang but not registered?
junkY: {redirect url=tiki-searchresults.php} works for me
luciash: for me too ;) but the docs say page=
ah, you can update the docs then :) you are welcome to edit the wiki page
just have to guess to use url= instead of page=
docs may be out of date, but it is in the plugin help
junkY: just register your nick on http://tikiwiki.org/home
and then login on doc.tw.o
ricks99: back to the last_modif_pages minor edits, I agree showing "last modify on X" where X is the last major modification time would be misleading. It could be just a date, or if it needs to be specified, "Last major modification: X".
luciash: thanks, i have edited the page
ricks99: but I want the new parameter to be improved, otherwise I would prefer not to have it
that's it for today. thanks to all. cya
@cheale: y. the more i think of it, it should b 2 separate modules: last edited pages (with option to exclude minor) and last major edit
i see the need allthe time -- want to edit a page but not have it pop to the top of the "last modif pages" list
ricks99: if you want to list edits, it could also have a minor edits ignore option.
i simply want/need to list the 10 most recently edited pages. but if i MINOR SAVE a page, it should *not* appear in the list
thats all my "fix" did. only change the TPL -- no PHP changes. very low risk
ricks99: depending on how much control you want to do, yes. what I meant is if we want a last major edits modules, better make it a last_edits and give it a parameter to ignore minor edits.
ricks99: but that's not what your "fix" did. pages which have a minor edit as their last edit are not shown, so if the last 2 edits were a major edit on Foo and then a minor edit on Foo, Foo won't show.
yes, that's what i wanted
if the last (most recent) edit as a MINOR, it will not be shown
we *really* need a tristate option:
minor = y ... inlcude pages whose last edit was minor. use the minor edit date.
minor = n... exclude pages whose last edit was minor (my "fix")
minor = d... include pages whose last edit was minor, but use the date of the most recent major edit
but this is beyond my skills
default would be "y", because that is the current Tiki behavior
ricks99: I would rather have minor=n order pages based on the date of their last major edit and your "fix" use another letter
6 of one, half dozone of the other. either
ricks99: well, was already used in the sense of just ignoring minor edits
ricks99: well, "n" was already used in the sense of just ignoring minor edits
but that hasnt worked since.... tiki 3?
when did it work last?
ricks99: it probably never worked. there's another reason, "y" and "n" should be the most common choices
if u can make it work correctly (as disucssed  ^^^ ) feel freee to change the options as u see fit
ricks99: as I said, I gave up on that. what are you planning to do?
hello all
my "fix" addresses my use case: ability to excluded pages that were last saved as a minor edit
thats all i was after
it is optional, and not the defalt, so it wont affect anyone else
ricks99: OK, but do you plan to fix the bugs introduced by your "fix"?
i was unaware of any?
ricks99: as we discussed, the description is misleading. also, your option doesn't honor maxrows correctly.
i had re-dne the descritoipn2x based on ur comments. not sure how to make it any clearer?
ricks99: it doesn't display more than rows, but it doesn't necessarily display the requested number of rows
for the max rows, i guess ill need to apply the filter during the query?
ricks99: oh, sorry I'll check it again
ricks99: hum, I don't see any commit on the module after r28289 (the one which reintroduces the parameter). am I missing something?
ricks99: indeed
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28592 10/trunk/ (db/tiki.sql installer/schema/20100818_watch_tiki.sql): move watches primary key on watchId allowing to make user watches email null.
hello all.
Hi Kimberlee!
Hiya RavenC.  :-)
Has anyone run into a problem with the Captcha form on tiki-register.php when using trackers to collect more user information?
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28593 10/trunk/lib/test/Calendar/DateTest.php: marking tests with errors as incomplete
@chealer: see #28290
updated description
ricks99: oh, sorry. yes, that improved.
ricks99: I still think the name "Include minor edits" is misleading though
feel free to change. made sense to me "specifies if pages that were last saved as a minor edit are included in the list"  Y | N
ricks99: OK, I'll change the name when it works correctly
tx
chealer: are you sure about taking away thje key?
i tiki_history?
sylvieg: do you mean changing the tiki_*_watches keys?
in tiki_group_watch on event and object
sylvieg: I think there should be a unique constraint on user, event and object
but you look in the table from a user or event id?
I am pretty sure ...
Hi All,
sylvieg: depends. some go by id, like $tikilib->remove_user_watch_by_id()
sylvieg: what is your concern? performance?
and noit some that are important is all - otherwise it will be perfs problem
my users still encounter problems when posting in the forums, that they loose their posts when previewing their post. also there is no quoting buttons available
Have there been some bugfixes in the forum part in Tiki 5.1?
sylvieg: I can put on index on user, event and object if you wish. my commit was to remove a constraint on the email field.
hello rodrigo_sampaio
which couldn't be null before
hi sylvieg
yes chealer is good to put back an index
OK
sylvieg: you saw the e-mail I send you to your @gmail account with the errors I have when running the tests?
sylvieg: basically when I run the tests I have three errors
not yet in my mail box
sylvieg: sylvieg@gmail.com?
no sgreverend@
sylvieg: ops :)
sylvieg: ok, sent to the right email
sylvieg: what error you have with the membership tests?
sylvieg: and about the calendar tests, for the problems is that there is an undefined variable in the tests
sylvieg: $start
but start is a return var
Why I do not have the eerror
rodrigo_sampaio: you ahve a problem with your php because http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.cal-days-in-month.php exists
I have serious doubts about phpunit :-(
there was an error in my code and it does not see it
Polom!
I have a problem, I do not understand at all
what is the problem fabricius
?
hmm, I wait a minute for sieferer - we are trying together - just that he can read this dialogue aswell
he´s coming right now (sitting besides me ;-) )
I try to install Tiki5.1 since hours together with sieferer ;-)  ...  now we tried it with a Tiki 3.5 (cause we have some Tiki 3.5 running on the server anyway) and after the full 
I´ll tell him in query ;-)
connection probs
so after this 3.5 installation there comes the last question: "close and lock or close without lock installer"
sylvieg: sorry, I don't understand. Why the fact that the builtin php function cal_days_in_month() exists is the reason why I have an error in the tests?
I found this one - mea culpa 
sylvieg: I suppose this is related why the third error. About the two previous error, should not $start be declare somewhere?
the thing I do not understand it is why phpunit was not getting me errors
It is scraing
sylvieg: maybe for the first two ones you don't see anything because of your error level reporting in php.ini? just a guess
in any case tehre was an error sop thanks
sylvieg: ;)
.. so why you do not see the error in membership\
sylvieg: the problem is not phpunit itself, is the tests we have
sylvieg: most of our code is not designed to be unit tested
why?
I can not do a generic test - there are too many cases
sylvieg: for example, the problem with the membership test (at least the one I fixed, not sure about the one you have) was that the test was relying on the time the whole test suite would take to run
it is the problem I saw too
it is why I did not fix it - the test seems strnge to me
Where did you try t fix it?
sylvieg: by creating a new instance of UsersLib instead of using global $userlib
sylvieg: there should be $this->userlib = new UsersLib(); in the setUp() method
fabricius: sorry, i didn't really understood what is the problem you have
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28594 10/trunk/lib/ (calendar/calendarlib.php test/Calendar/DateTest.php): [FIX]calendar+unit test : fix 28590
rodrigo_sampaio: can you try this one - should have fix the $start
sylvieg: going to try it right now
	then rodrigo_sampaio , whatever I choose, I get a blanc (white) page and the text "header already sent"
and no connection to the site until I delete the lockfile and restart the installer
so: installation Ok, but in the end in between or after the last dialogue the site goes somewhere to the nirvana
fabricius: sorry, no idea
normally an installation of any Tiki 3 or 4 would need a couple of minutes and not a hole day
ok, thx anyway
fabricius:  on the same server do you already have an install?
sylvieg: the previous error is fixed now, thanks
sylvieg: yes indeed ... several
sylvieg: but there is a new one. apparently easy to fix:
sylvieg: 1) Calendar_DateTest::testFocusToCell
Undefined offset: 7
/home/rodrigo/devel/tiki60/lib/test/Calendar/DateTest.php:50
sylvieg: and I am used to install in a couple of minutes - 3.x on two different servers (two providers) runing fine
sylvieg: on this server I tried to get the tiki5 running for the first time, but neither the 5 nor the 3 I am getting runing
oops sorry rodrigo_sampaio
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28595 10/trunk/lib/test/Calendar/DateTest.php: oops
fabricius: probably not enough memory
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28596 10/trunk/ (db/tiki.sql installer/schema/20100818_watch_tiki.sql): tiki_*_watches: restore index on event+object+user/group
thx chealer
it is a good move = just in case
np
sylvieg: memory?
I mean, I know what memory is
what is phuit?
phunit?
yes
what that is?
I do not uderstand, sorry
fabricius: sometimes the white page comes because msqli is not installed
sylvieg: so, back to Switch Lang, regarding http://tikiwiki.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/tiki/templates/modules/mod-switch_lang.tpl?r1=1.4&r2=1.4.12.1&pathrev=BRANCH-1-9 why could anonymous have the right to switch lang but not registered?
I will probably will nto remember
at teh time changing lang was only in user prefs probably
you need to check if the php has this time was changing in user prefs too
s/has/at
sylvieg: how that can happen on the same managed physical server in a "neighbor" folder of a runing site (several) with the same settings than the others?
sorry I thought it was 2 servers
.. check in error log .. can be a lot of reason if not the system config and not the memory
can be different php.ini?
A missunderstanding - no prob anyway - yes I am working on two servers (1 projekt and 1 productive) - this prob is on the second server, where some small sites work technically
and didn´t find any php.ini until today
sylvieg: but it's not preventing anonymous to change site language. it's lifting the requirement of having change_language for anonymous
but it is still existing?
sylvieg: the php.ini? do not know ... never saw it, never did put it into the folder where I try this not working installation nor into the working ones
If I read the comment at this time - switch_lang was always displayed - no choice on  module - but if the perm was not on the prefs can not be written and error .... It was probably like this - buit still then we have better module handling - prefs handling ...
sylvieg: a couple of days I made up an installation for one of our local groups on the same server in a folder beside - exactly the same steps and the same preferences: worked after a couple of minutes, like usual.
sylvieg: there is no permission involved, it's just a preference (and looking at whether it's anonymous or not)
sylvieg: thanks a lot sylvie, the calendar tests are working now ;)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28597 10/trunk/lib/credits/creditslib.php: [FIX] Add zero values to array of credits returned
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28598 10/trunk/lib/credits/creditslib.php: [FIX] Previous commit wrong (aim is to have zero values for credits that user does not have)
hi
re
hi maybe stupid q: how could I download tikipedia theme (for 5.1)? cant find it in sf nor @ themes.tw.o
 New Forum Posts: adding an "edit" link to a infobox (pretty tracker & wiki template) - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38148
 New Forum Posts: que opciones hay para usar tikiwiki como password manager - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=38147
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3522 - - utf-8 issue when importing tracker items (only first character) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3522
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3523 - - Reinstate the feature_category_reinforce - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3523
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3524 - - wiki parsing processes inefficiently much and maybe even insecure - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3524
found it @ themes. this day was way toooo long ;-)
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28599 10/trunk/comments.php: indentation
fabricius: in the installer how much memory it tells you on the checking step ?
>whatis memory_limit
'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 32M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28600 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Allow payment of Tiki Payment invoices using Tiki User Credits
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28601 10/trunk/ (lang/fr/language.php templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl): trad
recently - or I do not know what change #customcodewith_ad has a width in design.css - I am wondering why it is necessary
ah luciash - just saw your question (brought little son to bed)
luciash>	[#tikiwiki] fabricius: in the installer how much memory it tells you on the checking step ?
=> 40M
And do you have the same amount on other server ? should be ok - perhaps a little bit top much small
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28602 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: missing to 28590
ah sylvieg no, I am not shure, I guess on the other server (what is instead virtual hosting, I have less -> ~32M)
re
fabricius: best would be if you enable error reporting in db table tiki-preferences or if you can use .htaccess, then there uncomment, so you can see actual error messages instead of blank page
re luciash 
>whatis error_reporting
'error_reporting' could be tiki-admin.php?page=general&new_prefs&error_reporting_level=-1
if you can go to the db (e.g. via phpmyadmin), set the value as seen above
we have both: .htaccess and phpmyadmin
then you can choose :) maybe safer to apply is db
i mean to have it applied
-> this is the value: ">whatis error_reporting"?
nope
error_reporting_level is the name
-1 is the value
ah ok :-D
I´ll check