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[00:21] <Kimberlee> hello all.
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[01:22] <Kimberlee> hiya lindon.  :-)
[01:23] <lindon_> hi kimberlee :)
[01:23] <lindon_> long time no see!
[01:23] <Kimberlee> indeed.
[01:24] <Kimberlee> I'm going to try to make it in Oct.
[01:24] <lindon_> excellent!
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[01:25] <lindon_> a family trip?
[01:25] <Kimberlee> no, just me this time.  :-)
[01:26] <lindon_> that will be easier;)
[01:26] <Kimberlee> hopefully we won't have any accidents at home.
[01:26] <lindon_> that would be helpful
[01:26] <lindon_> oh...gotta go eat now
[01:26] <Kimberlee> enjoy.
[01:26] <lindon_> will say high to lawrence for you
[01:27] <Kimberlee> pls do!
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[01:50] <erdata> hello there i need some help
[01:51] <erdata> am using tiki4.0, after i login as admin when i click on admin home nothing is shown
[01:51] <erdata> what should i do??
[01:52] <erdata> the other thing is working fine
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[01:54] <erdata> !help
[01:54] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[01:56] <erdata> !help "admin home" stop working after i upload to my server.it was working fine on my loacalhost(on my pc)
[01:56] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[01:57] <Kimberlee> erdata: shared host server?
[02:00] <erdata> yes
[02:01] <erdata> its shared host server sir
[02:02] <Kimberlee> i've seen this once when I ran out of my allocated space on a shared server after some big uploads
[02:03] <erdata> i think i have enough space, leme check it
[02:04] <Kimberlee> it wasn't a problem with the actual space but witht he hosted account
[02:04] <Kimberlee> just an idea - otherwise I don't have any suggestions.
[02:04] <Kimberlee> sorry.
[02:05] <erdata> thanks kim,but i have checked it n i have more than enough space
[02:05] <lindon_> kimberlee: how's the florida user group going?
[02:06] <erdata> n everything is working except "admin home" link
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[02:09] <erdata> help!!! please.........
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[02:10] <erdata> or any suggestion?wher should  i go?? to get help on this matter
[02:12] <chibaguy> erdata, do you know how much PHP script memory your site has (not disk space)?
[02:12] <lindon_> does same thing happen if you go direct to tiki-admin.php?
[02:13] <erdata> yes same thing happens
[02:15] <chibaguy> Not enough memory for PHP script execution can cause blank pages.
[02:16] <chibaguy> Also, if you're using Tiki 4.0, it'd be good to upgrade to at least a more recent Tiki 4 version, if not 5.1.
[02:16] <chibaguy> For security reasons and bug fixes.
[02:17] <erdata> ok i will check the memory , thanks chilbaguy
[02:17] <erdata> but for upgrading can i upgrade without afecting the database and user configurtion?
[02:18] <chibaguy> yes, the upgrade won't bother your configuration settings or data.
[02:18] <erdata> OK!
[02:18] <chibaguy> (but backup database just in case, is a good idea)
[02:19] <erdata> ok i will, thanks 
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[02:44] <Kimberlee> lindon: sorry I'm so to multitask when I am tired  :-)
[02:44] <Kimberlee> off to zzz
[02:44] <Kimberlee> night
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[02:50] <erdata> hey >cheibaguy i try to upgrade my memory limit from 64M to 100M but still the problem is there
[02:51] <erdata> as i read from tikiwiki.org even 32M is enough i think
[02:52] <erdata> is there anything i sould try?
[02:54] <luciash> tiki-admin.php?page=general
[02:55] <luciash> enable PHP errors reporting
[02:55] <erdata> ok
[03:14] <erdata> >luciash still nothing happen 
[03:16] <erdata> no error even
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[03:20] <erdata> so >luciash ....
[03:25] <erdata> any other suggestion  please???
[03:26] <chibaguy> erdata, maybe try upgrading your installation and see if that helps.
[03:30] <erdata> that means replace all files and run new installtion right?
[03:30] <chibaguy> Yes
[03:31] <erdata> k
[03:31] <chibaguy> and click "upgrade" database and not "replace" in the install page.
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[03:33] <erdata> ok ok!
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[03:48] <chealer> chibaguy: did you see the recent commit from changi?
[03:49] <chealer> on fivealive
[03:49] <chibaguy> chealer, no, I don't think so.
[03:49] <chealer> it's similar to the recent problem with 404 in the installer: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=28520
[03:50] <chibaguy> oh, ok.
[03:53] <chibaguy> chealer, do you mean the r28520 change (aug 15) by changi, or another one since then?
[03:54] <chealer> chibaguy: yes, that one. I remember the problem was also with header.png
[03:54] <chibaguy> yes, I updated the CSS for the options after his commit, to use the correct image url.
[03:56] <chealer> chibaguy: hum, I notice http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=28528 now
[03:57] <chibaguy> yeah
[03:58] <chealer> chibaguy: oh, OK, all is fine then. I must trust your commits too much and not notice them as much ;-)
[03:58] <chealer> thank you
[03:59] <chibaguy> sure, thanks for checking.
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[09:48] <coaboa> hello all
[09:49] <rockroach> Hi, I'm having a horrible time upgrading from 2.3 to 3.5. I though mysqldump and tar would be enough to back up tikiwiki, but it hasn't proved that way. Has any one got n idea why backups would not work?
[09:50] <rockroach> coaboa: Hi.
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[09:53] <coaboa> hi chibaguy
[09:54] <coaboa> admincoasig123
[09:54] <coaboa> ups
[09:54] <coaboa> sorry
[09:55] <chibaguy> hi coaboa.
[10:08] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28691 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:08] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: [FIX] trackerlist: Don't show checkbox submit button if no name or title supplied (e.g. for datachannels)
[10:08] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: Also show example checkbox syntax in param list
[10:10] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28692 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [MOD] datachannels: Let external params be specified by jQuery selectors, not just element id (so you can use arrays of values - more to come)
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[10:33] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28693 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] trackerlist: Move some computation from smarty to php
[10:42] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28694 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackerlist: Move plugin template into the same place as the other wikiplugin templates
[10:49] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28695 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_trackerfilter.tpl: [KIL] Remove orphaned trackerfilter tpl (no edits since 2009)
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[12:03] <karinqe> hi
[12:04] <karinqe> sorry, but do you know how to use tikiwiki syntax in a .tpl file?
[12:05] <karinqe> it doesn't get parsed :(
[12:12] <coaboa> you might look at: themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks there are a few examples.
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[12:25] <karinqe> wow, you don't know how long I searched for that
[12:25] <karinqe> coaboa, thank you :-*
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[12:30] <ricks99> @ karinqe: might also want to check out http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Customizing+Tiki+Themes for more tiki hints
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[12:32] <karinqe> ricks99, thanks
[12:56] <karinqe> got any idea where to find documentation to the smarty command {wiki}? It lets you put in wiki commands, but creates <p></p> around everything..
[12:56] <karinqe> and I would like to get rid of it :(
[12:59] <ricks99> do u have the "wiki paragraph formatting" option enabled?
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[13:19] <luciash> polom polom
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[13:23] <luciash> karinqe: still looking for this ? → http://j.mp/awh4ED
[13:25] <karinqe> luciash, I did it by using smarty's replace function, but it seems kind of wrong anyways
[13:26] <luciash> heh, well, that is only way in Pretty Trackers
[13:26] <karinqe> ricks99, wow this wouldn't come to my mind in this century...thanks, I turned it off and now it's OK
[13:26] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28696 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [MOD] strasa: slightly larger monospaced font for wikiedit
[13:27] <karinqe> luciash, pretty trackers seem kind of...weird
[13:27] <luciash> but most powerful for customization
[13:27] <karinqe> luciash, who decided it would be a good idea to generate the img tag too? seems odd
[13:27] <karinqe> yep
[13:28] <luciash> it's odd but for trackers themselves or plain trackerlist (no pretty tracker) it is only way
[13:29] <luciash> to display the image
[13:30] <karinqe> hmm
[13:31] <karinqe> they could add the <img> tag only if no template is used...
[13:32] <luciash> in my wiki template i use: {eval var=$f_19|regex_replace:'/<img src=\"/':'' assign=startimage}{eval var=$startimage|regex_replace:'/\" width.*/':'' assign=imgpath}<param name="FlashVars" value="flv={$f_16}&amp;startimage={$imgpath}" />
[13:33] <luciash> mad, isn't it ? :-p
[13:33] <luciash> karinqe: yep, good idea
[13:34] <karinqe> :P
[13:34] <luciash> what's yours ? ;)
[13:35] <karinqe> {assign var="fotka"   value=$f_95|replace:'<img src="':''|replace:'" alt="" />':''}
[13:35] <karinqe> in this one
[13:35] <coaboa> hi luciash 
[13:36] <luciash> karinqe: cool, thanks for sharing
[13:36] <karinqe> I don't like such hackarounds :(
[13:36] <luciash> karinqe: btw, are you czech ?
[13:36] <karinqe> slovak
[13:36] <luciash> :)
[13:36] <karinqe> you? :D
[13:36] <luciash> czech :)
[13:36] <karinqe> :D
[13:37] <luciash> hi coaboa 
[13:37] <luciash> yeah, i don't like hackarounds too :D
[13:38] <luciash> karinqe: you're welcome to #tikiwiki-cz
[13:38] <karinqe> :)
[13:39] <karinqe> feature request: add param "don't_generate unnecessary tags" to trackerlist
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[13:56] <luciash> karinqe: looking at the tracker_item_field_value.tpl code... try {assign var="list_mode" value="csv"} before {$f_95}
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[13:57] <luciash> maybe lesser "hackaround" ? :)
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[13:59] * luciash wonders if you can pass the list_mode as param from the wikiplugin
[13:59] <karinqe> doesn't work :(
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[14:02] <luciash> hm :(
[14:04] <luciash> ah, ./changelog.txt:31605:[FIX]trackerlist: showlastmodif + able to use list_mode for pretty tracker
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[14:05] <luciash> karinqe: {trackerlist list_mode=csv ...} should work
[14:05] <luciash> but this is from trunk
[14:06] <luciash> maybe it's not in 5.x
[14:07] <karinqe> works!
[14:07] <karinqe> yay
[14:07] <karinqe> luciash, :-*
[14:07] <luciash> just grepping branch5 and it is there :)
[14:07] <karinqe> finally I can sleep well :D
[14:08] <luciash> hehe
[14:09] <RyanWP> Hello all
[14:10] <luciash> hi RyanWP 
[14:11] <karinqe> hi
[14:12] <RyanWP> ...speaking of trackers...
[14:12] <RyanWP> Is there an easy way to get data out of them integrated with the DB Report plugin?
[14:13] <RyanWP> Or maybe there's a better way than the plugin
[14:13] <RyanWP> I'm using the quiz module, and I want to display the results of the current user along with his/her group
[14:13] * luciash has no experience with db report plugin
[14:14] <RyanWP> I'm using the DB Report plugin to pull data out and format it nicely
[14:14] <RyanWP> But it's got the users listed by login rather than name - name data is in a tracker
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[14:15] <luciash> RyanWP: did u try trackers with pretty tracker templates ?
[14:16] <RyanWP> No
[14:16] <karinqe> hmmm, speaking of which, is there some way to use trackers as database tables and do JOIN on them?
[14:16] <luciash> you can format the output from tracker nicely using custom wiki page or tpl file as well (via trackerlist wikiplugin)
[14:17] <luciash> karinqe: i don't think so, there's just that item list and item link input field which can pull data from another tracker fields
[14:18] <luciash> karinqe: kind of link them
[14:18] <karinqe> hm
[14:18] <RyanWP> The database is a problem
[14:18] <chealer_> polom
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[14:18] <RyanWP> I'm fine writing SQL, but not that good :)
[14:19] <RyanWP> The dbreport plugin is already using some fairly complex sql, but I'd have to do some kind of join on the login for the tracker
[14:19] <RyanWP> The problem is that the tracker doesn't store the login and the name in the same record
[14:20] <luciash> karinqe: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Items+List+and+Item+Link+Tracker+Fields
[14:23] <luciash> RyanWP: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker
[14:23] <RyanWP> I'm looking at it
[14:24] <RyanWP> I don't think it will work - I need other info that isn't in the tracker as well
[14:24] <luciash> RyanWP: ah
[14:24] <RyanWP> ...I'd paste my DB report stuff, but I'm not sure how many lines I can paste before I get booted
[14:25] <luciash> RyanWP: but if you need only realName (as by user preferences) you can use maybe the smarty modifier
[14:25] <luciash> RyanWP: paste on paste service and link here
[14:26] <luciash> like paste-it.net
[14:26] <RyanWP> http://sit.pastebin.com/dZzciYqK
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[14:29] <RyanWP> I need users_users.login to be replaced with the user's real name from the tracker
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[14:39] <RyanWP> Hmmm
[14:39] <RyanWP> i wonder if I can use another plugin within that plugin
[14:41] <luciash> i don't understand it... how you format the output ?
[14:42] <luciash> is it the DB plugin formatting it automagically ?
[14:44] <luciash> i see
[14:44] <RyanWP> Here
[14:44] <luciash> it has whole lot of custom formatting
[14:44] <RyanWP> Let me paste the whole dbreport
[14:46] <RyanWP> http://sit.pastebin.com/FzvhjCXe
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[14:52] <jonnyb> polom (north)
[14:53] <luciash> hi jonny
[14:54] <jonnyb> hi luciash - how's things?
[14:54] <jonnyb> not been getting much time online (due to being up at my sister's)
[14:54] <luciash> it's ok
[14:55] <luciash> in north ? ?)
[14:55] <luciash> :)
[14:55] <luciash> how north is that ?
[14:55] <jonnyb> north of England only, not arctic or anything
[14:55] <luciash> ah :)
[14:56] <jonnyb> although it's not very warm here :)
[14:56] <luciash> neither nor way :)
[14:57] <RyanWP> You're in Norway, luciash?
[15:00] <luciash> nope :)
[15:00] <luciash> middle of EU
[15:00] <luciash> cz
[15:01] <RyanWP> Ah, so no lutefisk for you
[15:02] <luciash> RyanWP: i think the only way for you is to use some otehr JOIN and look up in the user_preferences table for the realName value or the tracker one
[15:02] <luciash> RyanWP: but i am not good in SQL either, so ...
[15:02] <luciash> lutefisk sounds fun
[15:03] <RyanWP> Hmmm - I wonder if I can join a table to itself...
[15:05] <RyanWP> Nah, I'd have to do a right join.  Let me see if I can play with it more
[15:05] <RyanWP> Thanks for the help
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[15:24] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28697 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [MOD] datachannels: Unset all non-user params, not just 'channel' (and minor indentation)
[15:38] <karinqe> I have kind of a complex problem I fail to solve since last week...Let's say I have a tree M. The leafs of M have additional data attached to them. 
[15:39] <karinqe> Then I have a data table N (that I have already implemented using tracker & page selectors)
[15:40] <karinqe> The tree leafs can have zero or more connection to the table
[15:41] <karinqe> and the table items can have zero or more connections to leafs
[15:41] <karinqe> And I want to do 2 things with that:
[15:42] <karinqe> 1) Display the tree using something similar to displaying categories (with the + and - to open and close subcategories)
[15:44] <karinqe> ideally if it would be possible to show the table items that are connected with the leafs
[15:44] <karinqe> - node
[15:44] <karinqe> -- node
[15:44] <karinqe> --- leaf
[15:44] <karinqe> -----table item1
[15:44] <karinqe> -----table item2
[15:44] <karinqe> and so on
[15:46] <karinqe> 2) for each table item, show a list of all leafs from tree M, that are connected to that table item, + the data which are stored in the leafs
[15:47] <sylvieg> we have a jquery superfish - perhaps you can use it
[15:48] <luciash> karinqe: maybe you need jQuery treeTable ? → http://doc.tiki.org/treeTable&highlight=treetable
[15:48] <karinqe> hmmm
[15:48] <karinqe> I'll look at it\
[15:50] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28698 10/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] blog post excerpt
[15:50] <luciash> Sug4r`: enlight luciash doctwo PluginTrackerlist
[15:50] <Sug4r`> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTrackerlist
[16:10] <karinqe> hm, forget what I said before...imagine I have a table with 3 fields, (page selector, leaf name, data)
[16:10] <karinqe> I would be able to do point 2) without problem
[16:11] <karinqe> but how would I construct point 1), the tree with attached page selectors at the leafs
[16:11] <karinqe> ?
[16:12] <karinqe> kind of like SELECT page_selector FROM table WHERE leaf_name=current_leaf
[16:12] <karinqe> btw, the best way to think about such things is to ask :D
[16:13] <karinqe> writing the problem down is a great help...
[16:13] <luciash> itemlist type which will list all page selectors attached to the leaf and item link in the other tracker which will link page selectors to leafs
[16:14] <karinqe> huh
[16:14] <luciash> or the other way around, i am not sure what you exactly need :)
[16:16] <karinqe> hm, currently I need to construct some tree (doesn't need to be stored as a tracker or anything), that would just ask at each leaf the SQL command I wrote
[16:16] <karinqe> that not such a big problem anymore, hmmm
[16:44] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r28699 10/trunk/templates/attachments.tpl: [UI]'id' should be capitalized as 'ID'
[16:54] <karinqe> is there some plugin to show a structure like a javascript tree? So a part of it could be opened or closed using some + and - buttons
[17:03] <luciash> karinqe: FADE
[17:03] <luciash> karinqe: or the wiki syntax for H1 - H6 when you put + or - after ! 
[17:04] <karinqe> hmmm
[17:04] <luciash> like !!+ Nadpis H2
[17:04] <karinqe> but this would fetch the whole structure at once, wouldn't it?
[17:05] <luciash> yes, unless you use some AJAX magic
[17:05] <karinqe> :(
[17:05] <karinqe> that's what I was afraid of
[17:07] <karinqe> btw, are there some tracker filtering benchmars?
[17:08] <jonnyb> sorry - out of RAM - bibi
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[17:09] <karinqe> or - how fast/slow is it on a tracker with ~5000 items?
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[18:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Besides linking to tiki-admin_structures, is there a simple way to list structures for users ... - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38198
[18:18] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28700 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mediaplayer.php: [FIX]MEDIAPLAYER: allow other params like autoplay=1 for the js mediaplayer
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[18:23] <ricks99> Q: is it possible to embed a module or use wiki syntax in a tiki HTML page?
[18:23] <ricks99> if so, how?
[18:24] <sylvieg> ricks99: yes of course in fckeditor - I always use plugin
[18:25] <ricks99> ? can use fckeditor with tiki HTML page?
[18:26] <ricks99> im talking about tiki-admin_html_pages.php
[18:38] <luciash> nope
[18:38] <luciash> HTML is ust static HTML but you can use only the dynamic zones or something (DCS ?)
[18:39] <luciash> i am not sure what is it called there and even wonder the feature is still there
[18:39] <luciash> i mean HTML pages
[18:39] <luciash> s/ust/just/
[18:40] <luciash> it is very old and unmaintained feature
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[19:29] <ricks99> @luciash: sorry, got sidetracked... dynamic content zones can be included in Tiki HTML pages?
[19:43] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r28702 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletter_subscriptions.tpl: [MOD] admin newsletter subscriptions: deploy tabs into this template
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[20:46] <Bilal> hi everyone 
[20:47] <Bilal> Is Kaltura free software to use in TIKIWIKI ? I checked their website, they seem to be a paid software , please tell us do we need to buy it ?
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[21:04] <loobick> !help
[21:04] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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[21:09] <loobick> Hello. I use plugintabs in my wiki pages and looking for way how to access any of tabs on page directly from different page. is it possible? Example: I have "Page 1" and "Page 2". On "Page 2" are tabs "Overview" and "Details". I want to create link on "Page 1" to direct access "Page 2, tab Details". Is it possible or not?
[21:21] <luciash> hi
[21:21] <luciash> loobick: yes
[21:22] <loobick> luciash: i think it but can not find how to do it
[21:22] <luciash> add param &cookietab= to your URL
[21:22] <luciash> use number of tab you want to display
[21:23] <loobick> is possible to do it directly in wiki link? ((Page 2)) and add something?
[21:23] <luciash> nope, use internal link instead
[21:23] <loobick> ok. thank you
[21:23] <loobick> thats what i tried to find last two weeks
[21:24] <luciash> [Page+2&cookietab=2|Link to Page 2]
[21:24] <luciash> if you don't use SEFURLs, you have to put full tiki-index.php?page=... path
[21:25] <loobick> i know. thank you. that was great answer
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[21:25] <luciash> np :)
[21:25] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28704 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]tracker log: wysiwyg for logs in view item
[21:27] <luciash> ricks99: yep
[21:29] <coaboa> when using pluginrandominclude it diplays "random" as pagetitle. is there an option to display the correct pagetitle?
[21:30] <luciash> coaboa: see lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin-randominclude.php for possible params
[21:31] <coaboa> oki to obvious ;-) thx, way too this day,better go to bed now. 
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