#tikiwiki 2010-09-22,Wed

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Who	What	When
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nkoth	sylvieg: re trackerfilter very nice	[00:01]
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fabricius	question: can I put in a link into a trackerfield, for that I can link to a website or an e-mail direct out of the tracker (best int a new tab / new window)	[00:34]
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luciash	fabricius: yes	[00:53]
fabricius	cool	[00:53]
luciash	url type	[00:53]
fabricius	in Tiki3.x aswell? ok, I`ll check	[00:53]
luciash	or e-mail type url in 3.x not sure	[00:53]
fabricius	e-mail type -> no link ahh that could be the reason	[00:54]
luciash	email is for email type link	[00:54]
fabricius	but e-mail type is ther -> but no link functionality ^^	[00:54]
luciash	hmm, should or maybe 4.x it was, not sure, too old ;)	[00:54]
fabricius	e-mail is there alright - just didn´t see the parameters - thx I have to work parallel on 3.6, 5.1 and from next wekk 6 too ;-)	[00:57]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29516 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] solution for correct position of the sitelogo img when there is secondary sitemenu custom code on top	[01:07]
fabricius	luciash: thx a lot e-mail working fine - url not yet in this version - looking forward to Tiki5 on this installation (will switch once the template is finished)	[01:08]
luciash	np	[01:08]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29517 10/branches/6.x/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29518 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: oops, wrong quotes tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29519 10/trunk/_htaccess: update htaccess revision, changing from Tiki version to Subversion revision. needs up-to-date check adaptation, coming soon...	[01:12]
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luciash	Tiki 6 and trunk CSS menus are broken in Opera :( were fine in 5.1	[01:28]
marclaporte	polom luciash: : I was just thinking you could help me :-) :-)	[01:28]
luciash	or is it just my localhost ? :-p marclaporte: hi, wassup ?	[01:30]
marclaporte	We now have a bunch of sites at 6.x still buggy can we warn ppl	[01:30]
luciash	still buggy ?	[01:31]
marclaporte	I tried something on http://themes.tiki.org/About 6.x is still buggy so we should warn about (in)stability and get people excited about upcoming 6.0 (they will say "what, already? Tiki 5.2 was just released") I was thinking of using the same css thing than the interactive translation (top thingy)	[01:31]
fabricius	ah hello marc	[01:33]
marclaporte	hi fabricius!	[01:33]
luciash	well, it's still alpha, not intended for upgrades yet in production	[01:33]
marclaporte	Right so I want visitors to know that so they don't get bad impression of Tiki	[01:34]
fabricius	good idea ;-)	[01:34]
marclaporte	For Tiki5, I had made annoying yellow post-it looking things, which everyone hated	[01:34]
fabricius	Ido not like bad impressions on Tiki	[01:34]
luciash	:D	[01:34]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29520 10/trunk/ (_htaccess tiki-admin_include_sefurl.php): complete r29520	[01:35]
fabricius	perhabs you should not switch info and doc before 6 is at least halfway stable	[01:35]
luciash	maybe we should wait with dogfood for at least beta or RC1	[01:36]
fabricius	better is that - i for myself will make a 6 inst asap (tried already without effort)	[01:36]
marclaporte	info will be last, but uprading doc is essential to catch bugs	[01:39]
luciash	couldn't it be dev instead of doc ?	[01:41]
fabricius	just an idea of an half-AMSU ;-) (me) fabricius sometimes feels like an AMSU	[01:41]
luciash	>whatis AMSU	[01:45]
Sug4r	Error: No factoid matches that key.	[01:45]
fabricius	Assumingly Most Silly User	[01:46]
luciash	ah :)	[01:47]
fabricius	In German we use this acronym a lot -> DAU -> Dümmster Anzunehmender User -> I just translated	[01:47]
marclaporte	luciash: yes, it could	[01:47]
luciash	never heard this one	[01:47]
fabricius	in english it´s may be new	[01:48]
luciash	marclaporte: might be better	[01:48]
marclaporte	well, too late now, but... luciash & fabricius: the upgrade schedule has been posted on dev.tiki.org/Tiki6 and is up for improvement Very soon, we'll be going through the same for Tiki7 :-)	[01:48]
fabricius	wow on saturday, perhabs I will have a big fight for our flight to TIKIEEEEEE	[01:49]
luciash	marclaporte: too late ? is it already upgraded ?	[01:49]
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marclaporte	yup	[01:50]
luciash	ah	[01:50]
fabricius	big national meeting and there is a conflict between the director (not the board) and me arising	[01:50]
marclaporte	Which is why I want to put a warning	[01:51]
fabricius	because I have a big concept for the hole lot with intranet and local-portal and collaborative involvement of local activists but the director wants a small site to absolutely only his personal interests	[01:51]
luciash	so put the same remamrksbox as is on dev pages marclaporte: ^	[01:52]
fabricius	many members and some of the board are much more than open to my ideas and it seems to becom e a huge discussion dir trying to sideline me and some groups supporting me	[01:52]
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fabricius	cross fingers please	[01:53]
luciash	marclaporte: like for example there → http://dev.tiki.org/Banner	[01:53]
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marclaporte	luciash: I was hoping something more visible like <div id="intertrans-indicator">	[01:53]
fabricius	so I need every help till friday night stefan of my team even is driving an hour to my house every day this week intertrans-indicator?	[01:54]
luciash	marclaporte: you can put it there in big letters and it will be visible ;)	[01:54]
fabricius	luciash: did you mean this 'note' thing?	[01:55]
luciash	big bold letters :) yep, that is remarksbox	[01:55]
fabricius	ah yes with the new coming {BIG()} PlugIn :-D	[01:55]
marclaporte	hehe, but how come the blue thing at the top of themes.tiki.org is getting overlapped by logo and title?	[01:56]
luciash	blue thing ? lemme check	[01:56]
fabricius	didn´t find it	[01:56]
luciash	aha, no idea marclaporte maybe z-index ?	[01:57]
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luciash	marclaporte: but then it would cover the menu	[01:57]
marclaporte	I don't understand why it doesn't push everything down	[01:58]
luciash	i think the remarksbox warning type would be better	[01:58]
fabricius	anyway ... the yellow PostIt notes from Tik5 Release have been ugly, but very helpful for me as user - I absolutely understood the necessity and just accepted it in the hope of a soon stable version for us all	[01:58]
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luciash	marclaporte: it must be the z-index	[01:59]
fabricius	perhabs a copy of the note-box / remarksbox but with an extra class and another colour (yellow rocks!) all over the place (in all theme options) marclaporte & luciash have a break, have a kitkat - brb	[01:59]
luciash	marclaporte: you know what ? because u put it in wrong place :-)	[02:01]
marclaporte	hehe	[02:01]
luciash	div cannot be in HEAD html head is only for title, styles and scripts and meta	[02:01]
marclaporte	duh	[02:02]
luciash	hth	[02:03]
marclaporte	so now, it hides the menu: http://themes.tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=look same problem as Interactive Translation	[02:03]
luciash	sure :) so why not to use the center column ?	[02:04]
marclaporte	I feel that is relevant for stuff in the site (special instructions about a feature, etc) but for a site-wide warning, I want post-it style thingie	[02:07]
luciash	if you want it "pinned" while scrolling, you can put it in <div style="position: fixed">...</div>	[02:08]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29521 10/branches/6.x/ (_htaccess tiki-admin_include_sefurl.php): [bp/r29519-29520] update htaccess revision, changing from Tiki version to Subversion revision.	[02:10]
luciash	marclaporte: want me to do it ?	[02:11]
marclaporte	yes, please!	[02:12]
luciash	ok	[02:17]
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luciash	marclaporte: sorry, my browser strikes :-p will do it bit later	[02:22]
marclaporte	two for tks oups thanks!	[02:24]
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marclaporte	marclaporte likes the post-it!	[02:41]
fabricius	fabricius loves them too fabricius has piles of ´em sticking all around	[02:55]
***	marclaporte changes topic to: Polom! Latest stable versions: Tiki 5.2, 3.7 (LTS) Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy!	[03:04]
marclaporte	fabricius : what wording would you put ( in post-its)	[03:06]
fabricius	hmm - you want people to recognise, that we are making necessary test to get a stable next version for them and you want to beg them pardon for all inconvenience? is that right? <= marclaporte marclaporte: kind of a first impression of what dogfooting means to grant best quality?	[03:08]
luciash	marclaporte: tee hee, it is draggable now ;)	[03:11]
fabricius	Dear User, due to our efforts for best quality and to get a new stable Tiki6 for you, we are doing the necessary test on our own productive platform. Eating our own dogfoot, we appologise for any inconvenience. s.th like that marclaporte and luciash ?	[03:13]
Kimberlee	thanks all and g'night.	[03:24]
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fabricius	>whatis polom	[03:29]
Sug4r	'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P, or (#5) (1 more message)	[03:29]
fabricius	thx Sug4r	[03:29]
	or marclaporte -> Testing Tiki6 for you - please be patient, we appologise for all inconvenience	[03:34]
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fabricius	hello jörn JoernOtt: ;-)	[06:23]
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JoernOtt	lo marc, are you awake? hi fabricius	[06:48]
fabricius	:-D you r from frankfurt, isn´t it?	[06:49]
JoernOtt	nope, coaboa is, I am from Bad Honnef (near Bonn)	[06:49]
fabricius	ah cool	[06:49]
JoernOtt	coaboa is from Hanau to be precise	[06:50]
fabricius	so coaboa is german, too?	[06:50]
JoernOtt	ay	[06:50]
fabricius	ah hanau	[06:50]
JoernOtt	Hope to see you in Berlin	[06:50]
fabricius	wouldn´t you like to join the german user group? jo definitely wanted to ask u right now ;-)	[06:50]
JoernOtt	why not,	[06:51]
fabricius	we didn´t set up anything yet	[06:51]
JoernOtt	getting in contact with other tiki ppl is a good thing well, we should start with a tiki site	[06:51]
fabricius	I am in the middle of a huge project and have a) to show my collegues the stuff i learned the last couple of month b) myself have to check out the workspaces now	[06:52]
JoernOtt	When my brother is back from Cannes, I will register a domain with him and set up a tiki 6.x site	[06:52]
fabricius	the group would use a workspace like the florida group - tiki6 site for testing purposes?	[06:53]
JoernOtt	hehe, the last 10 days (including weekend) I have been working 12-16 hrs / day	[06:53]
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JoernOtt	well, for whatever we need it for	[06:53]
fabricius	I am setting up testing site nearly every week or day	[06:54]
JoernOtt	Not a testing site	[06:54]
fabricius	tiki6 I did not get running so far, but I am looking forward	[06:54]
JoernOtt	more of a dogfood site	[06:54]
fabricius	(semi) productive I switch from 3.6 to 5.1 now	[06:55]
JoernOtt	using a up-to-date tiki to collect the community stuff I run 2 servers on trunk atm, and a few on 5.1 and our intranet still on a 4.x :-)	[06:55]
fabricius	marc and me agreed to use workspaces for the group, but why not test 6 aswell 4.x is not so bad thought	[06:56]
JoernOtt	nope, running stable for quite some time	[06:56]
fabricius	anyway, I more or less jump over it I would go for 4.x and be very happy, if the community would not be so fast and I needed some functions from 5.x and in the end from 6 aswell ;-) uhh I should not forget to ask for taking the teasers into account for the clipper function are you a coder?	[06:56]
JoernOtt	yup call me Tagelöhner :-) or better mercenary	[06:59]
fabricius	loool	[06:59]
JoernOtt	I code whatever my employers want me to even in MS VBA :_)	[06:59]
fabricius	i have no clue of coding - all I know from IT I did learn in the last year	[07:00]
JoernOtt	well, I started ages ago at the age of four, when my father had a book on his table with the title 1+1=10	[07:01]
fabricius	lol seems to be a good book and the calculation is damned right (binary seen) a question about a problem that turned out quite at the moment, while we are talking:	[07:02]
JoernOtt	a part of the old Siemens BS1000 books about binary/octal/hex and calculation on processors	[07:03]
fabricius	I did set up a tracker for contact details and stuff and it has two pages (tracker-view in wiki-page)	[07:04]
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fabricius	in my IE-checking screen, I see, that the IE is not taking the page turn over buttons seems to be problems with cache or so	[07:05]
JoernOtt	or javascript is there something like the web developer extensions or firebug for the IE?	[07:05]
fabricius	is there a known issue with trackers - or page turning with IE -> this installation has 3.6 as add on?	[07:06]
JoernOtt	I don't know, I havent checked at the bug tracker	[07:06]
fabricius	I should do that my IE is kind of naked - just to test how the site is looking as anonymous user and as IE user - so no plugins, if not out of the box I´m not a friend of different microsoft products than win xp or 7 -> all else I try to use open source and such stuff especially when open standarts r used ... so you mentioned java in context to trackers?	[07:07]
JoernOtt	nope JavaScript the ugly stuff running in a browser gotta go, some network stuff for a client	[07:12]
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fabricius	kk bye	[07:17]
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fabricius	btw. problem solved: was really the cash - just had to set the cache for that page to 0 - runs now even in IE	[07:25]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r29522 10/branches/experimental/coe_fgal_relook2/ (657 files in 115 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28979 to 29478	[08:17]
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luciash	polom	[08:38]
fabricius	bolow thx for info ;-)	[08:43]
luciash	np, could be still done better, to not leave the fragment of post-it when closed	[08:46]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r29523 10/branches/6.x/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ckeditor-icons/Specialchar.gif: [FIX]Add missing icon for special characters since branch 6.x has been created (I guess it was missing by mistake). Otherwise, add a different icon or fix url to other icon in tpl's	[09:17]
xavi	wohoo, doc.t.o running tiki6 alpha.... brave changi...	[09:18]
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chibaguy	poloom	[09:59]
Ma	Which sql-file does run on upgrade?	[09:59]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29524 10/trunk/ (24 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 29506 to 29523	[10:42]
chibaguy	luciash, I noticed menus don't work completely in Opera unless minify CSS is on; apparently when not minified, maybe not all the files get used/found or something.	[10:47]
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ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:07]
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chibaguy	hi ricks99	[11:11]
ricks99	hi chibaguy without any objections, i'm going to send public annoucements for 5.2 and 3.7 updates....	[11:12]
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chibaguy	ok, ricks99. apparently everyone trusts your good judgment. :-)	[11:22]
ricks99	scary	[11:23]
chibaguy	heh	[11:24]
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chibaguy	Ma asked earlier about what sql file is run during an upgrade. I kinda thought the installer runs all the schema files. Is that right? Or does tiki.sql get updated in the commit when a new schema file is added? I don't do db-related commits so am not sure.	[11:25]
Ma	I really got problems with tiki-upgrade	[11:26]
ricks99	do u mean tiki.sql?	[11:26]
Ma	No, the whole process	[11:27]
chibaguy	Ma: have you been editing the database outside of Tiki, or something like that? chibaguy is trying to think of past conversations	[11:28]
Ma	chibaguy: Yes I have The problem is NOT the sql queries :)	[11:28]
chibaguy	so probably that is causing a problem?	[11:28]
Ma	chibaguy: Nope	[11:28]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Info: Tiki 5.2 and 3.7LTS Now Available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article112-Tiki-5-2-and-3-7LTS-Now-Available	[11:29]
chibaguy	just asking because upgrades usually go smoothly. what kind of problems are you having?	[11:29]
Ma	chibaguy: Yeah, the problem is the collation/charset All my åäö just fucks up :P I'm thinking of restore my db copy and try doing it again Is the latin1 -> utf8 conversation good to run?	[11:30]
ricks99	charset issues are known issue. see rel notes	[11:31]
chibaguy	should be.	[11:31]
Ma	Because of some reason it looks like I have latin1 columns, tables etc	[11:31]
chibaguy	I currently have some japanese on a site and it survived upgrades ok.	[11:31]
Ma	BUT it is utf8-data in the rows.. And now I checked "force to use utf8 for database-connection" now I think it is using latin1 as db-connection. Almost I could guess it does	[11:31]
ricks99	@Ma: what is the carset definition in your db/local.php (see release notes for details)	[11:32]
Ma	latin1 in prev-version utf8 in new version	[11:33]
ricks99	did u convert the db to utf8 before the upgrade?	[11:34]
Ma	Nope	[11:34]
chibaguy	(luciash, it seems minify css is not always necessary for menus in opera, sometimes a page refresh fixes them, but minify seems to guarantee success)	[11:34]
ricks99	then u cannot use utf8. u need to keep latin. pls see release notes for details	[11:34]
Ma	ricks99: I tried, it works fine :)	[11:34]
ricks99	then wha tis the issue? ricks99 very confused	[11:34]
Ma	ricks99: I didn't know about that $client_charset ;) ricks99: it said converting to utf8 was experimental in installation-guide, could I use it to convert you think?	[11:35]
ricks99	y, it is covered in the rlease noes ymmv	[11:35]
Ma	What is required to run the tiki-installer?	[11:38]
chibaguy	just your web browser	[11:39]
ricks99	http://doc.tiki.org/Requirements	[11:39]
Ma	"Upgrading and running into encoding issues?" Could I try accessing the page and then go back and do that if it's wrong?	[11:41]
chibaguy	you can run the installer as often as you want, if that's what you are asking. but I'm not sure about the convert-tables tool.	[11:44]
Ma	Hm, now it is looking good :D	[11:47]
chibaguy	:-)	[11:48]
Ma	Is there any special cache for first-pages? The language is changed overall except there	[11:50]
chibaguy	what do you mean by first pages?	[11:52]
Ma	chibaguy: the one that I come to when I go to www.domain.com when I login the same meny-choice is correct	[11:53]
chibaguy	no special cache for that.	[11:54]
Ma	How could it be that it isn't correct name there then?	[11:54]
chibaguy	Maybe your browser cache should be cleared.	[11:54]
Ma	Done that	[11:54]
chibaguy	and tiki caches?	[11:55]
Ma	Yes As far as I login it works And when I go to another page as logged out It is juuuust the page I've set as firstpage	[11:55]
chibaguy	what if you edit it (or part of it) to correct the characters.	[11:56]
Ma	chibaguy: huh, it is in the menu chibaguy: that loads from the language-file	[11:56]
chibaguy	Oh, the menu's text is bad?	[11:56]
Ma	Yeah I replaced the langauge.php for swedish to my own custom	[11:56]
chibaguy	so the homepage text is from the language.php file?	[11:57]
Ma	chibaguy: the menu on the homepage, yes	[11:58]
chibaguy	can you correct its characters by editing it?	[11:59]
Ma	editing the page? no	[11:59]
chibaguy	does the menu's text come from the language file? I mean to try editing the text, wherever it is.	[12:00]
Ma	chibaguy: yes, it does	[12:00]
chibaguy	and the text is ok in the language file, but is wrong when displayed in the menu?	[12:01]
Ma	chibaguy: the text is ok in the language-file. It is ok in the menu when you login, when you go to another page, EXCEPT when going to domain.com.	[12:02]
chibaguy	strange	[12:03]
Ma	could it be memcache?	[12:09]
chibaguy	I don't know how that works really. also you could check about wiki page caching.	[12:10]
Ma	what is wiki page caching? Where do I check that?	[12:11]
chibaguy	In tiki-admin.php?page=performance, under wiki tab, in Tiki 6. I'm not sure about tiki 5.	[12:12]
Ma	chibaguy: it was memcache	[12:13]
chibaguy	oh, ok.	[12:13]
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Ma	Nice Thanks for the help =)	[12:18]
ricks99	Q: when using tiki intra-messaging system, is it possible to automatically have a message sent to brand new users? so that after verification, they have a "new user" message waiting?	[12:18]
chibaguy	Ma: you're welcome. ricks99: I don't know, but that'd be nice to have.	[12:31]
ricks99	looks like may have to use cusotm url for post validation/registration instead	[12:35]
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chibaguy	ricks99: Is there some kind of CRM coding surge coming up? Would this feature be relevant, and so could be added to that?	[12:38]
luciash	re-polom	[12:39]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[12:39]
ricks99	not sure. i think the internal messaging stuff hasn't been touched in ages	[12:39]
luciash	wow, chibaguy, i would think the opposite could make problems in Opera, not non-minified	[12:39]
chibaguy	http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Customer+Relationship+Management	[12:39]
luciash	i will try put css minify on	[12:39]
chibaguy	luciash, seems like the speed of getting the css info might be the reason. or sequence of loading, or something.	[12:41]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Problemas con imagenes - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=38628	[12:42]
luciash	weird	[12:45]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3555 - - Too much loading when going into edit mode - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3555	[12:46]
luciash	chibaguy: wow, enabling Minify CSS really fixed it... must be some little typo in the CSS for the menus maybe ?	[12:51]
chibaguy	maybe so. I hope so; would be easy to fix.	[12:51]
luciash	i will try to look through the css file	[12:52]
chibaguy	ok, thanks.	[12:52]
luciash	chibaguy: might be that opera doesn't like tabs in css definitions ? like display: block; ? i will try if it fixes it	[12:54]
chibaguy	but we always had tabs before. the menus stopped working correctly in opera fairly recently.	[12:55]
luciash	between display: and block ? r u sure ?	[12:56]
chibaguy	ah, no. I just mean before the property:value.	[12:56]
luciash	yes, that fixes it commit soon that also explains why minify fixed it	[12:57]
chibaguy	great. the 2% of us who are opera users will be happy. :-)	[12:59]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29525 10/branches/6.x/css/cssmenus.css: [FIX] Non-minified CSS Menus: Opera failed when there was a tab instead of space between property name and its value !	[13:05]
luciash	chibaguy: you know why i opened Opera yesterday again ? to have quick possibility to check validity in w3c validator via the right click menu :-p	[13:06]
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luciash	missing that in Chrome and FF default installs (though FF has it in Web Developer add-on)	[13:07]
chibaguy	I see.	[13:08]
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luciash	any idea where to fix php notice lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php(1934) : eval()'d code Undefined index: user ? i get it on HomePage in the alpha	[13:11]
chibaguy	chibaguy looks around chatroom, assuming luciash is not talking to chibaguy. ;-)	[13:12]
luciash	i get it only when anonymous btw :) chibaguy: nope, not talking to you directly, you are allowed to reply just "yes, I get that too. no idea" ;) goddamnit! i get the css menu weirdness again :-p	[13:14]
chibaguy	my reply is, maybe I should turn on error reporting. huh?	[13:17]
eromneg	Hi - I've just run the installer on a site still updating from trunk - but the installer says it is 6.0 SVN alpha 1 - ie the same as the new branch. Should trunk be Tiki7 now?	[13:18]
chibaguy	It was working here after I updated.	[13:18]
luciash	thought it was really it... but seems it comes and strikes back again :-/ reload fixed it too, but some other reloads, and i have it back page reloads i mean	[13:18]
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eromneg	I'll flag the installer issue to the devel list so it gets 'logged'	[13:23]
luciash	eromneg: yes, it should, but as it gets merged, maybe it got merged in trunk or it was there before branching	[13:30]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3557 - - Autolinks and italic clashes - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3557	[13:36]
chealer	chibaguy: you're right to think all schema files run on upgrade	[13:45]
chibaguy	chealer: ok, thanks for confirming that.	[13:46]
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luciash	chibaguy: can u cnfrm pls, that the Opera cssmenu oddity is still there ?	[13:56]
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nkoth	Recently there has been some talk about tracker-calendar integration. No real work done yet right?	[13:59]
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sylvieg	I did a trackerliost taht is diplayed as a calendar but I did not do the opposite calendar refers to tracker http://doc.tiki.org/plugintrackerlist#Tracker_as_calendar	[14:00]
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nkoth	sylvieg: this one only shows in a "small calendar" the mod_calendar_new, not the "big" calendar, right?	[14:03]
sylvieg	yes I did only the little one	[14:04]
nkoth	sylvieg: thanks.	[14:04]
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chibaguy	luciash, sorry, was away. I'm not seeing the menu weirdness in Opera now.	[14:09]
luciash	after several reloads ? with css minify off ?	[14:11]
chibaguy	that's right.	[14:12]
luciash	hmm, nice :) but wth i still get it on my Opera with localhost tiki6 branch i will try switch it off and on again (the browser) ;)	[14:15]
chibaguy	you're using linux, right? I don't know if opera is different on linux and windows, in some details.	[14:16]
luciash	10.62	[14:20]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29528 10/branches/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [MOD] img border strict markup validation (using style="border: none" instead of border="0" attribute)	[14:22]
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sylvieg	:-( allowhtml is not stored in the database for articles - strnge that it was never fixed snif when I edit an article in 6 - I do not have the body :'(	[14:51]
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jonnyb	polom-day	[14:55]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29533 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 29523 to 29531 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29534 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl: [FIX]article: do not need to confirm on preview ans save	[14:58]
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luciash	polom jonnyb	[15:04]
jonnyb	hi luciash - looks like you've been busy - are you winning?	[15:04]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29535 10/trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] fix branch setting in trunk	[15:06]
jonnyb	did we decide on a star for 6? we should have the Pleiades for 7, of course...	[15:07]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r29536 10/branches/6.x/styles/ (14 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Tabs-spaces cleanup: Hunt and remove tabs not on beginning of lines so as not to confuse opera (see r29525)	[15:16]
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sylvieg	Can you prefill a tracker text field with a value for a new item... I thought it was possible ...	[15:40]
luciash	jonnyb: epic win ;) jonnyb: Rigel sounds good but wasn't it already ? sylvieg: yes, should be	[15:54]
jonnyb	no, not set yet - rigel will do it means "the foot"	[15:54]
luciash	sylvieg: JS or in template or via url param or via tracker wikiplugin param ?	[15:56]
sylvieg	thx luciash the TRACKER plugin - I forgot about it...	[16:07]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29538 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (14 files in 11 dirs): [FIX] Tabs-spaces cleanup: Hunt and remove tabs not on beginning of lines so as not to confuse opera (see r29525). Also, fix some CSS2.1 validation errors.	[16:15]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3558 - - Forum post count in forum listing wrong (increases fast) - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3558	[16:20]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29539 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-site_header_options.tpl: style attribute CSS validation (reported by Opera error console)	[16:32]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29540 10/branches/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.menu.php: xhtml markup validation: replaced role attribute, will be re-introduced for Tiki 7 tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29541 10/branches/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.phplayers.php: xhtml markup validation: replaced role attribute tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29542 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] toolbars: Add most wysiwyg tools to toobars, and help to sheet's one. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29543 10/branches/6.x/tiki-admin_toolbars.php: [FIX] toolbars: Clear sheet view_mode if not in sheet section.	[16:52]
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chealer	polom	[17:06]
jonnyb	polom chealer	[17:06]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29544 10/branches/6.x/templates/styles/fivealive/tiki-site_header_login.tpl: xhtml strict markup validation: missing fieldset	[17:13]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29545 10/branches/6.x/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ckeditor-icons/ (5 files): [FIX] toolbars: Fix missing icons. Remove capitalised ones first. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29546 10/branches/6.x/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] toolbars: Fix missing icons. Use lowercase on ck only ones, use wiki ones for ck tools without ck icons. Add some exceptions for oddities in ckeditor css.	[17:15]
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jonnyb	hey luciash - are iframes allowed in xhtml?	[17:33]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29550 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-edit_help_sheet.tpl: [FIX] sheets: Add help doc - doesn't validate, TODO in external repo	[17:42]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29554 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-edit_help_sheet.tpl: xhtml strict markup validation: Shouldn't have frames in a non-frameset page. Replaced iframe with object.	[18:18]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29555 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [bp 29511][FIX]TRACKERFILTER: allow next/previous between items when using trackerfilter and a pretty tracker for each item (with param showpagination=y on the TRACKERLIST(itemId=, wiki= tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29556 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-edit_help_sheet.tpl: xhtml strict markup validation: Missing </div>	[18:34]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29557 10/branches/6.x/lib/perspectivelib.php: [FIX] PHP notice "Undefined index: 1" when multidomain_config contains empty lines, breaking sites displaying PHP notices using gzip compression	[18:44]
xavi	xavi wonders if today it's somebody's birthday.... (somebody present in this channel right now, he means)	[18:53]
sylvieg	if it is to have a present ... it can be mine ;-) - just joking	[18:55]
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xavi	:-)	[19:09]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29559 10/branches/6.x/lib/perspectivelib.php: [FIX] perspectivelib->get_domain_map(): if multidomain_active is not set, consider it takes its default value	[19:14]
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sylvieg	Happy birthday jonnyb	[19:17]
jonnyb	thanks sylvieg - off out shortly :)	[19:18]
xavi	xavi still waving at master jonny who is one years more-master s/years/year	[19:18]
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jonnyb	thanks xavi - more tomorrow (not early ;) ) bibi	[19:23]
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xavi	no problem enjoy7	[19:23]
fabricius	hi	[19:29]
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fabricius	can anybody tell me please, where in the admin Look and Feel to put custom JavaCode?	[19:33]
ricks99	in the custom javascript field? see miscellaneous tab	[19:35]
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fabricius	thx - last tab last field down - just did not open my eyes enough, thx very much	[19:39]
ricks99	note that you can always use the configuraiton search to find options, fields, and features. very handy	[19:40]
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sylvieg	can I really use a sheet like a tracker ... I mean I build a sheet reference and the users can input the value in this sheet reference to create their own sheet	[20:07]
xavi	? I don't get the question, sylvieg not that I know the answer, but I don't understand the question	[20:08]
sylvieg	In fact I need a computed field in tracker that iss if $f_3 >10 then $f_5 else $f_6 for instance tracker does not have this feature	[20:09]
xavi	:-) can't you do that with Jquery magic?	[20:09]
sylvieg	so I was thinking using sheets as it is - I hope - in tiki sheet	[20:10]
xavi	http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJQ using trackers	[20:10]
sylvieg	but I do not see how auser can create an instance of a sheet / compare how a user can create an item of a tracker	[20:10]
xavi	I managed to get something similar: conditionally show some tracker fields or some others, based on criteria on a previous tracker fields	[20:10]
sylvieg	oh! I am impressed	[20:11]
xavi	"an instance of a sheet": afaik, permission control is on a sheet basis, not on a cell range (or similar) basis on sheets "oh!, I'm impressed": so am I. Why do you think that I've been all day waving at jonnyb? :-) xavi has tired arms of so much waving you can see it in action... if you wish let me get a link...	[20:11]
sylvieg	cool and the doc is here...	[20:13]
xavi	http://161.116.82.31/tiki/BasicPipe+Seccio+13	[20:13]
sylvieg	at least I do not need to develop the prefill feature :-)	[20:13]
xavi	Yes, I added the documentation this morning	[20:13]
sylvieg	thx	[20:14]
xavi	yes, prefill also, something I learned a few days ago you need to click twice for some reason, instead of once, the first time, to get the fade in and fade out ... so there might some (tiny) thing else needed in that jquery syntax (or jq bug fixed, if any), but it's nearly perfect! (andimpressive)	[20:14]
sylvieg	cool	[20:16]
xavi	yes I also tried adding that jquery magic in a statictext-field, but the pluginJQ seems that it can't be validated (as a plugin call) when used inside a statictext field if the pluginJQ call could be validated when used in a statictext field, then we could use simple text prefill or text area prefill in trackers , without the need to use tracker plugin, or pretty trackers, etc. do you understand what I mean, syvlieg? sylvieg ^	[20:17]
sylvieg	not sure...	[20:20]
xavi	do you know that there is a tracker field of type "Static text"? you can add any wiki syntax there, and it's parsed as such	[20:20]
sylvieg	it displays the contwent in tracker???	[20:21]
xavi	so I tried adding a new field of static text... yes, of course :-) see the example in the same link as before: http://161.116.82.31/tiki/BasicPipe+Seccio+13 I'm using plugin code in that static text, with some example of R syntax where it says: Heading: "Secció 13: lmParameters" that's written in a field so when the tracker item is shown in the tracker interface, that part is also shown (at item view, for instance)	[20:21]
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sylvieg	xavi do you think that with JQ I can have the computed fields automatically updated when a component changes? I see your input... click .. I suppose I can have an input... change sylvieg needs to pick up her jq book	[20:31]
xavi	I don't know the answer. Jonny or robert might have the answer yes, I guess it's a questions to set the right criteria we need to take profit of the Jquery magic, as much as possible (at least the low hanging fruit)	[20:32]
sylvieg	should be something like $("input[name=track_113]").change(function(){	[20:33]
xavi	xavi is a jquery newbie still you can try also the jquery channel on irc but I tell you, it's very crowded! and my short experiecne there (lasted 45 min only, yesterday), was that jonny's comments and tips where far more effective than a few suggestions I received among the crowed conversations (phone here)	[20:33]
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