polom I tried to translate tikiwiki page into Korean, but there is no Korean in language selection. In this case what should I do? Hello all. hello ttrimm :) Hi. How are you this day Fine, and you? all right. Thinking about writing another Tiki article and wondered what is something that gets asked a lot http://www.wikihow.com/Special:LSearch?fulltext=Search&search=tikiwiki Those are what I have written so far, as far as Tikiwiki goes Not meant to replace the irreplaceable Tiki for Smarties, but to break it down even further for those that need it ttrimm, do you know how to add language? I wanted to translate some page into Korean but I couldn't choose Korean from the language selection. NO, but let me see if I can figure it out with you ttrimm, excuse me I am slow, now I am reading your former message Would make a good idea for an article maybe jo meg? can't remember the other sisters unless one is named Amy! chahn: when you say Add a language, do you mean a Koran version of it?? Yes. I wanted to contribute by translate some pages of tikiwiki but I couldn't I am reading the articles of your homepage now let me know if there is anything I can do to make it easier...or something you would like me to write about. Have you registered on TikiWiki for smarties? http://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php that is where I would start looking. Sure, I am newbie here so I have to read all of them carefully :) they are looking for people to translate the smarties website me too. that helps my articles because I am doing them from the ground up chahn: did you read about i18n? I only registered on tiki.org. Thanks for the info. internationalisation =i 18 n internationalization? mom, I have a look I think I read before but I can't remember about that well. I will find it out now and read again. no problem. I like learning about this stuff myselfr Thanks fabricius. ttrimm, I will tell you more after I finish reading your articles. Thanks Great! Don't you hate when that happens!? do you know hot to ghost yourself? /ns ghost username password chahn - still there? OR you can wait it out fabricius: yes I am here http://doc.tiki.org/i18n&structure=Documentation Oh, thank you, I was searching that page. http://tiki.org/WhoWhat?bl=y Ok http://tiki.org/i18n+status?bl=y you should try to contact user ' gene203 ' - he/she seems to translate korean If you have any suggestions chahn_ you can put them on one of the discussion pages of one of those articles you mean the comments ttrimm?? I have written a few how to articles on TikiWiki and told him if he had any thoughts or suggestions he could put it on one of those pages. http://www.wikihow.com/Special:LSearch?fulltext=Search&search=tiki there... Ok. heading to bed now... from the infamous Arnold ... I'll Be Back! OK, thanks fabricius and ttrimm. Even though I am slow in reading english articles I will follow what you taught :) I will be back too! kk bye then - falling asleep tikiwiki: 03sdoh * r29589 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] Solve bugs of variables 'undefined is null or not object' at unloading of the page with IE tikiwiki: 03sdoh * r29590 10/branches/proposals/5.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [bp/r29589] [FIX] Solve bugs of variables 'undefined is null or not object' at unloading of the page with IE can I use tikiwiki as my PIM (addressbook? calendar?) can I use tikiwiki as my PIM (addressbook? calendar?) polom polom chahn__: still there ? yes luciash hi :) hi :) did u figure it out ? to create new language I am trying to figure it out and now I can see Korean in Language selection but this time the pages I translated show only ??? broken characters I checked my mysql database's character set but it is utf8. I don't know what is the problem. you can create new lang by two ways: 1) by copy and pasting existing one in lang/ 2) using Tiki 5 and creating new language going to tiki-edit_languages.php if you edit the language.php file directly in editor, make sure the encoding is set to UTF-8 you will also need to add your language in lang/langmapping.php i think I followed the first way. Yes, I made a mistake of not using UTF-8 editor so I changed to Ultra edit . So I solved it. Oh really? I didn't check it. Thanks luciash I will be back. is your lang code "ko" ? Oh, i made a mistake. I changed the file already. yes "ko" fine luciash: did you figure out the transition stuff if you can see the other languages like chinese or japanese characters correctly and edit yours in UTF-8, there should be no problem displaying it correctly in the Tiki sylvieg: hi, not yet, there is database error in a fresh install? or when appyling the profile? sylvieg: later, must run now ok see you sylvieg: both sylvieg: the error happens luciash, I think my present problem is from something else. I tried 'Japanese' which is already there. But after I input some charaters(Japanese) It was shown as '???' too. To me there is some problem in WebServer's configuration. I am using Xampp windows version. To me there seems to be some problem in Webserver's config, I mean. sorry for the typing error. polom-end luciash: I found that my problem didn't come from Webserver's misconfiguration. I installed two tikiwikis as tiki/ (DB: tiki) and tiki2/ (DB:tiki2) working on the same Xampp. Webpages from tiki/ let me translate into Japanese (it was not configured to Korean). It works fine. But Webpages from tiki2/ let me translate into Korean(I changed langmapping.php and copyied en/ to ko/) but the charaters are all broken as '???' . So I tried with Japanese. It shows also broken letters. Then is this possible because I misconfigured tikiwiki? not quite right.... Where does the configuration change get stored ? Is there any file such as LocalSettings.php? tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29591 10/branches/6.x/lib/transitionlib.php: [FIX]transition: missing changes in rollback 27986/28035 chahn__: db/local.php luciash: transition should be better^^^ soory sylvieg, thanks sylvieg, oh I mean, as an admin when I changed the configuration such as multilingual enabled then is it stored in a file or DB? tiki-admin.php?page=i18n Do you mean that I have to check such things only through webpage? I thought there might be some file which shows such things. Then the data is stored in DB, right? every preference is stored in the db table tiki_preferences + some in db/local.php I see. thank you, sylvieg. @chan__: you might find http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Updating+Tiki+Preferences helpful Oh, I see. thank you. ricks99. It is so nice, :) Thank you guys, fabricius, luciash, sylvieg, ricks99 and others. Have a nice day! See u later, bye re sylvieg: thank you ! tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29592 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]transition: transition can work only on group withno category luciash: but it seems to me that tiki-admin_transitions.php is broken in any way.... hmm, still in the svn up proccess, i will check the group transition is broken in admin - categ seems to work ... i still don't get how it works... what are the steps to create transition and the guards are no more displayed... or what does the "transition" means here at all in tiki-admin_transitions.php you should be able to say for instance id in this group , add or replace with this group is the guards are satisified transitional means something "in-between converting process" to me, so i don't get these "transitions" what guards ? where are the guards defined ? who is it ? transition is an engine to change an object form one categ to anothetr or a group to another - after checking guards a group ? (it is my problem I do not remember where guards are defeined) is it something like staging and approval for wiki pages ? but this one is for groups and categories ? like to approve the change (edit) of them ? (lph pushed me out about improving the transition and I was obliged to rollback to implement the todo table... stagging yes - except you do not have 2 version of the same page it is so confusing to me why isn't it called categories approval and groups approval ? why the term transitions ? so confusing :) ask lph it reminds me transition effect in video editing, that is probably why it is so confusing to me :-p bye all, good day the problem is that the admin interface is infinished imho, maybe catgory *transformation* is better than transition? ricks99: yes, maybe sylvieg: ah but it is the same code for category and group if everyone spoke english as native things would b easier to understand ;-P ricks99: true the comment localization is unfinished undocumented too :-( there should be link to transitions too from the Admin menu and maybe feature checkbox ? too late to rename now :( there is no feature for that but yes to add admin_tracnisiotns as it is rule by tiki_p_admin that is not the case for tiki_payments... tiki_p_admin_transitions ? nope, still the db error :( which one objectId? it needs sql fix i guess Unknown column 'objectId' in 'field list' The query was: INSERT INTO `tiki_transitions` ( `type`, `objectId`, `from`, `to`, `name`, `preserve`, `guards`, `batch` ) VALUES( ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ? ) I just did a fix in 6 when trying to apply the profile i just svn upped maybe it needs fix in the profile then ? in trunk or 6? INSERT INTO `tiki_transitions` ( `type`, `objectId`, `from`, `to`, `name`, `preserve`, `guards`, `batch` ) VALUES( 'category', NULL, '3', '4', 'Request Review', '0', '[]', NULL ) 6 ooooh, sorry i svn upped trunk but try on 6 so sorry :-p tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29593 10/branches/6.x/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] installer: use $TWV->getBaseVersion() to just get version number, not the text appearing after it as well sylvieg: thanks, it works now tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29594 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] version: 6.0 isn't 'stable' yet, so revert to unstable, add star for 6.x 'Rigel' (as discussed on IRC), and use getBaseVersion() to get numeric version value only. sylvieg: what does the module installed by the profile do ? there is radio button "Request Review" and [Apply] button sylvieg: it doesn't work corrctly with ajax on, right ? (the tiki-admin_transitions.php) which profile - I do not have a module? I never use ajax - yet - was too buggy in th old days the module appears only on one wiki page for me it is much better now, but i think not for these transitions ;) the xajax profile Category_Transitions_Demonstration ah, now when i edit one transition defined by the profile the Guards tab appears slowly getting to understand it, but still not there yet :-p tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29595 10/trunk/ (19 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 29559 to 29594 yes, i noticed transitions fails with xajax on (shouldn't stop you using ajax now though) jonnyb: yup, the admin UI just doesn't work properly yes, it's an LPH special :) should be ok with feature_ajax on though now? just not ajax_xajax (i guess) ok didn't test this combination yet i just think the groups don't work, really, at least not with this profile i don't see any group created Approved by DEV and Approved by QA it should be there, nope ? if i understand it correctly, or what members of Guards are ? i thought they're a group members or is it category members ? can users be categorized now ? it is categorization of page not user... try on a wiki page and the module catg and you will understand the apporve step - you will see the missing categs to be be approved Do I miss something? Fersh install I have one perm on anonymous ... but when I wnat to see which perms ... I have to open all the tabs. Is it a short way to see which perms? what is the guard then ? sylvieg: try the "Show only selected" checkbox a robot ? what if we remove the redundant "Home" links from menu completely ? are they still useful for anythng now ? sorry for switching the topic ;) jonnyb: thx works - should it be by default when looking for perms of a specific group I like the Home link really sylvieg ? sounds a bit odd... why? I am on admin groups - I see one perm but when I arrive in tiki-objectpermissions.php?group=Registered I have no idea where the eprms are? or perhaps the comment 'Show only selected' must be changed? tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29596 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_html.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] plugin html: Remove sanitisation introduced by nesting {HTML} in other plugins (thanks Xavi), parse data here using is_html (as it obviously is) or decode html. Simplify unnecessary variables used. tikiwiki: Remove old help function and some strange code referring to tiki 2.2 - please test. i see, ok i have some stuff to do in there anyway, so will try it sylvieg: ok, i see now how the category transitions module works tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29597 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki.sql: [ADD] missing Transitions admin menu item for fresh installs db/tiki_1.8to1.9.sql is correct to be in Tiki 6 ? and the two others ? good question luciash i'd have thought the only reliable upgrade would be from 3.7 or later but it might work from 1.x :) i just wonder if they re-slipped in in some merge process or if they really are useful i don't think they were ever KIL'ed ah, i just dreamed about then :) i thought they were not there for some release but i must be wrong ok then, if they're used can i remove information.tpl ? my grep says it is not used from anywhere I think we need them for old upgrades the tiki_1.8.... luciash: last commit was about a global missing ? yes, but did anybody actually test if it works ? i mean, there are mentions that is better to upgrade to 2.x first, then 3.x, etc. changi: ? my last commit ? luciash: r29597 changi: nope @luciash: last i understood, u can safely go from 1.9 -> anywhere in one shot ricks99: i'm not sure about this one ricks99: ah, cool ricks99: and from 1.8 ? :) luciash: at the CoE we use 1.8to1.9, 1.9to2.0 and 2.0to3.0 fodr that u need to migrate to 1.9 first (afaik) luciash: before using the upgrade system changi: you mean manually < *.sql ? luciash: yes ah speaking of upgrades, will there b a 5.1 -> 5.2 patch? so it is not done by the installer automagically luciash: and don't forget to use -f, or mysql will stop on first error luciash: about my first question, i was just thinking if that commit should have a sql in installer/schema for thos who upgrade changi: btw, i wasn't aware u r CoE gang guy too, until now :-p oops changi: i think it is not meant for upgrades, that's why i told for fresh installs in the commit message beause people often modify their menu 42 polom hi fabricius again a problem :-( -> I do not need a solution for it inbetween the next few days, but I would like to get an imagination, what the reason might be: changi: so how can i know what menu position should i put there for upgrades ? In my 3.6 Installation sydly still with latin1 allocation I can´t use certain PlugIns, like HTML, IFRAME, TAG all leads to a database query error changi: what if the menu is modified or deleted or changed completely ? right now I had to go into the phpMyAdmin and delete the TAG-PlugIn by hand, to get back access to the wikipage ricks99: +1 ricks99: => menu 42 => application menu? if yes, I would say so aswell well, thats what Smarties says, anyway. ;-) @fabricius: i use html and tags in 3.x with no issues. fabricius: what is the error ? maybe you need GPC quotes or sybase quotes off in php.ini or something I know that it works - I have another tiki3 inst for a subproject, that was used productive (first time official use) and there I used HTML and IFRAME without probs aswell even in that problematic future main site (will upgrade to Tiki5, once Template is finished) I tested that some weeks ago without any problems what are GPC quotes? ask google coffee time hehe lol I make a picture of the error message http://www.vafk.de/_torsten/tiki-error-dbquery-001.jpg anybody an idea? i actually did switch off pending and approvel two or three days before this is 3.6LTS? i recall an issue with plugin security in an earlier 3.x try re-running the installer. select the UPGRADE option to re-run the SQL and make sure the table is built properly. iirc this was fixed in a 3.x patch. I am pretty sure, that it is 3.6 ... but maybe it´s earlier and the other inst, where it works is (defenitely 3.6 hm,ok 99% that is the problem one problem, that I may not be able to fix in an easy way before the change to 5.x woulod be the allocation !? ah, no clue, ricks99 is prossibly right 1. check your tiki version for the "broken" site. 2. if at an earlier 3.x version, upgrade to 3.7LTS. should fix the issue thx ricks - so if I understand right, I will reinstall the tiki to the last (3.6) rerun the installer and upgrade the SQL I listen, ok 3.7 -> 3.7 :) thxs guys luciash and ricks99 : I agreed with marc, that I make a description of my project in the community somewhere in dev.t.o or in t.o I desided now, to attach a wikistructure to my userpage have startet with a page - could anybody make a structure out of it for me? should be more or less temporary, it´s just the fact, that my project is based on some different workspace szenario and with that pages I can make some stuff easier for all, when I request some help and bring my learned stuff back to the documantation ricks99: +100 about the menu 01@luciash & changi: maybe in Tiki 7: introduce new menu ID #0 as the Tiki-installed, full menu and allow *no* end-user modifications. in the end my goal would be to have my project running, perspectives and workspaces better documented in the t.os and perhabs a knd of szenario page - there is a list of those stuff somewhere, where I could add that This way no impact on exisitng sites (if they have modifications to menu 42) we already do similar: users cannot rename/delete the Registered or Anonymous group, etc. just a thought ricks99: ID #0 good idea from users point - i´d like that of course, #42 *is* the answer to the ultimate question of life, universe and everything else. :-) we know :-D ricks99: why not !! I´d say the number is not the major issue - more important seems to be (for me) the fixed standart meu not to be interfered by the user if it was 0 or 42 - 42 might be more kind of ... a short expression of the Tiki World problem with using 42 now is that it will impact any site that modified it. i think it is safer to start fresh. just my $0.02 USD you like the music tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29598 10/branches/6.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] pagehistory: Various fixes - use htmldiff for html pages, show is_html on history list, parse old and new html the same and allow horizontal scroll for wide lines. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29599 10/branches/6.x/tiki-objectpermissions.php: [FIX] objectperms: Use correct event to trigger from filter by text links tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29600 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_system.tpl: [FIX] xhtml strict re-fix: label is allowed when in p, div, etc. luciash: should we replace all