#tikiwiki 2010-09-28,Tue

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fabricius	polom how is everybody? does anybody knows from what version on trackerfield url is implemented? 4, 5, 6? in 3 there is only mail working	[01:27]
	not so much important anyway -> checked now, that in 5 there is a field URL	[01:37]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29683 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_filelink.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] FILELINK: handle absence of label tikiwiki: oops	[03:19]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Converting tool latin->utf8 for a Tiki3 Database - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38729 New Forum Posts: Can't Display File Galleries List in Tiki 50 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38728 New Forum Posts: Converting tool latin->utf8 for a Tiki3 Database - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38727	[03:49]
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fabricius	Hey there - would need an admin of the forum: Double Forum post - accidentially would be nice, if someone could take out one of my posts (not both ;-) )	[03:54]
chealer	fabricius: done	[03:58]
fabricius	thx chealer	[03:58]
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chahn	Hi, all :)	[05:05]
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changi	good morning.	[06:47]
chahn	Hi Changi :) I wanted to contact a user gene203 who seems to be translating tiki into Korean. But there is no information to contact him in http://tiki.org/UserPagegene203. What can I do then?	[06:48]
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pip	tewt	[07:03]
coaboa	good morning tikiverse	[07:04]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3563 - - Plugin validation cannot be turned off, TW5.1 - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3563	[07:36]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29684 10/branches/proposals/5.x/templates/tiki-view_forum_thread.tpl: Homogenize titles in tiki-view_forum_thread and in tiki-view_forum tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29685 10/branches/proposals/3.x/templates/tiki-view_forum_thread.tpl: [bp/r29658]Homogenize titles in tiki-view_forum_thread and in tiki-view_forum	[07:51]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Module who_is_there usage - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38731	[08:43]
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josh	hello chat room, i have a tikiwiki problem that i can't seem to find an answer to is anyone actually here to try and help me?	[08:49]
coaboa	hi	[08:49]
josh	sweet! someone's here! ok, well here's my problem.... basic, files aren't actually downloading through the file gallery specifically, i'm just trying to upload pictures to wiki pages, but the images appear broken i've tried viewing the direct tiki-download_file.php link, but that doesn't work either (though no surprise there...) any ideas would be much appreciated...	[08:49]
coaboa	I am not sure but there was a discussion about that problem on dev mailing list. If images stored in db, try filesystem for stoarege and see if the problem persists. Could be a bug. if possible try a more recent version for tesing *storage	[08:53]
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xavi	polom	[09:09]
coaboa	hi xavi	[09:15]
xavi	hi Carsten	[09:15]
coaboa	a short question. have read that somebody want a printed version of the doc, but I thought a pdf is not needed anymore as the printing on doc.t.o should (or I'am wrong) works inbetween. That why I don't put any more effort in a pdf version	[09:17]
	xavi: If printing of a complete doc still don't work, I can produce a printed pdf for release with 6.0	[09:23]
xavi	well, coaboa, I have no idea myself can you try with current tiki6 alpha on doc.t.o?	[09:24]
coaboa	yes.	[09:24]
xavi	I saw the link you sent months ago about the process in mediawiki that would be awesome if ported/implemented in Tiki, for sure but I don't know of any coder working in that direction xavi thinks that a new pdf for Tiki6 would be (at least) nice in fact, we could set as a target that at least LTS versions have updated pdf documentation? we missed Tiki3.... but imho, we shouldn't miss Tiki6...	[09:25]
coaboa	;-) after bookfair. Is 6.0 now "frozen"?	[09:27]
xavi	kind-of, afaik	[09:28]
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coaboa	cant find a print structure at doc.t.o and print just "prints" the toc	[09:30]
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coaboa	I have one as of May 12th for tiki 5.	[09:36]
xavi	coaboa, I think it's a semi-hidden url try with this... http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-print_pages.php you'd better do that as logged in user since some plugins might be producing some content for registered users, different from anonymous, etc. even if I don't know about all those icons for editing (sections, etc).... you can report back your experience in the tikiwiki-devel list, I would say s/report back/share	[09:40]
coaboa	I'll test it. and give feedback.	[09:45]
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chibaguy	polom	[10:11]
coaboa	hi	[10:18]
chibaguy	hi coaboa. how are you?	[10:25]
coaboa	fine. somewhat busy as the bookfair comes closer and the customer won't stop me to change things ;-)	[10:27]
chibaguy	:-)	[10:28]
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yonixxx	Hi all... Mfff i recall they were a way to get the page title (or description) to be set as the metatag <title>	[10:54]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29686 10/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 29656 to 29683	[11:03]
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jonnyb	Poloms from London...	[11:07]
yonixxx	Herrr ? Is there a way to set that the metatag title contain specific title items (like wikipage title) and not the general website title ?	[11:13]
jonnyb	hi yonixxx - yes, i think so - try wiki admin? (or doc.t.o?)	[11:17]
xavi	hi jonnyb, chibaguy and all jonnyb, are you better? headache I mean	[11:18]
coaboa	hi jonnyb	[11:18]
jonnyb	hi all - yes thanks xavi - much better compared to yesterday...	[11:19]
xavi	fyi, I got accepted the communication for a conference, on using R in Tiki (PluginR), for biooinformatics	[11:21]
coaboa	cool	[11:22]
xavi	http://estbioinfo.stat.ub.es yes, glad to use Tiki for work, and see some results in terms also of communications to conferences, etc it's a work in progress, but good enough in that conference since many other people might be interested (from Bioinformatics)	[11:22]
jonnyb	yay! well done xavi! :)	[11:23]
xavi	luciash, sylvieg, and a few others who helped with PluginR are in the acknowledgements, of course :-) thanks :-)	[11:23]
coaboa	I "know" R from some work by stefan evert in the linguistic environment which could become for poiesipedia relevant in the future so great you improved that thx	[11:24]
yonixxx	jonnyb i'm checking every section of admin...	[11:25]
xavi	xavi back to work, and use jonnyb's tips to extend tracker magic with Jquery :-)	[11:25]
jonnyb	oh yes, sorry xavi i haven't managed to reply to your jquery challenge email... maybe on the plane!	[11:25]
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xavi	ok, no problem, take care first	[11:25]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:26]
xavi	when are you departing? xavi knows that there is some fest in the oven.... but doesn't remember when the party starts	[11:26]
coaboa	hi ricks99	[11:26]
xavi	hi ricks99	[11:26]
ricks99	hi coaboa & xavi	[11:27]
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yonixxx	i fear something is broken (tw5 trunk) about "title meta/Breadcrumbs /wiki title, etc... i got specific title only for admin page (not all) hi ricks99	[11:28]
ricks99	shalom yonixxx	[11:31]
yonixxx	moade le simkha ve hag sameakh :)	[11:31]
ricks99	been a LONG time since hebrew school for me ;-)	[11:32]
jonnyb	xavi: fly to NY tomorrow, Open Video thing for a few days the TikiFestNY6 (better pack soon)	[11:33]
yonixxx	happy soucot holidays :)	[11:36]
fabricius\|away	wow NY ... nice thing ... would like to be there myself ...enjoy big apple and the tikifest	[11:40]
ricks99	ricks99 will get to tikifest one of these days...	[11:41]
jonnyb	where are you ricks99? not as far from NY as me, surely? you even speak the language! :)	[11:41]
ricks99	~600 miles (in NC)	[11:42]
xavi	jonnyb, enjoy the packing and pre-departure tasks and enjoy that time travelling and working abroad, of course :-)	[11:43]
jonnyb	thanks - mustn't forget to pack...	[11:43]
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ricks99	@xavi: were you ever able to create a pdf of the entire doc.tw.o structure?	[11:47]
yonixxx	What a fight... i hace succefully inserted the page title as the meta title BUT i can;t get rid of the "site identity : Browser title:" (in general prefs) -> if empty it insert "Home" in the browser page title	[11:54]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29687 10/branches/6.x/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] ckeditor: Test for autosave feature before using it.	[11:58]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29688 10/branches/6.x/lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikiplugin/plugin.js: [FIX] ckeditor: oops	[12:00]
olinuxx	bye all	[12:02]
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coaboa	hi joern	[12:06]
JoernOtt	lo carsten	[12:19]
coaboa	does one know how I can replace the 'Back' in wikiplugin_back with an img src="". it either displays nothing or the the link is rendered as text. Tryed also $content = "img src="/pics/prev.gif";	[12:32]
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xavi	ricks99: sorry, it seems that if you prepend a nickname with @, this webchat from freenode doesn't beep ricks99: I was able in the 1.8 & 1.9 days :-) that was the source of the current documentation pdf	[13:05]
ricks99	right. still been unable to produce pdf for current, rit?	[13:07]
xavi	yes, still unable since Tiki 1.9 :-/ I wish we could hire some mediawiki coder (whoever did that solution) to do something similar for Tiki if inside our community there is nobody capable of doing that	[13:07]
ricks99	i think the process is more comples. lots of structure and i18n issues that mediawiki doesnt have	[13:09]
xavi	I know some of us have offered some money to have that fixed (At least MArc and me, afaik), but no success so far ricks99: I would say, step by step. First be able to take everything out without improvements...	[13:09]
ricks99	thought i saw somehitng on dev list a few ago that someone was looking ad pdf creation from structures	[13:09]
xavi	then go for phase 2: tabs, versions, langs, ... but we are stuck in phase 1 bbl (lunch)	[13:10]
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yonixxx	Nest step the keywords. in the admin->metatag-> keyword i checked "Include freetags" (on and i have set freetags for the targeted page). The keywords are empty, nada, zero, rek... :( any hints someone ?	[13:38]
ricks99	what tiki version? works in my 5	[13:40]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29689 10/branches/proposals/5.x/tiki-edit_wiki_section.php: Empty file on upgrades rather than delete for upgrades from Tiki 5 through overwriting	[13:49]
xavi	back thanks chealer! I dreamed about that commit last night! xavi is concerned of users upgrading through overwriting new files on top of old ones	[13:50]
chealer	hi xavi	[13:51]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29690 10/branches/proposals/3.x/tiki-edit_wiki_section.php: Empty file on upgrades rather than delete for upgrades through overwriting tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29691 10/trunk/tiki-importer.php: [ENH] set headtitle for tiki importer	[13:56]
luciash	hi	[14:06]
coaboa	hi	[14:11]
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fabricius\|away	polom	[14:33]
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coaboa	can I use {if}$page eq 'pagename'}"thistranslation" {else}"thattranslation"{/if} in a language php?	[14:42]
xavi	c u all (teaching time)	[14:43]
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jonnyb	ho coaboa - no, that's smarty syntax - you'd need php in a php file ;) ho/hi	[14:49]
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chealer	coaboa: you can do that, though it may not do what you expect hi jonnyb	[14:51]
jonnyb	hi chealer chealer: you're coming to NY aren't you? when?	[14:51]
chealer	jonnyb: yes :-) (flying to Newark, arrival September 30th 19:03, departure October 6th 20:50)	[14:55]
jonnyb	coolio - i'm off tomorrow	[14:55]
chealer	jonnyb: I'm eager to see you and everybody	[14:56]
jonnyb	me2 - should be a goody	[14:56]
chealer	I'm currently at Marc's place, but without the cats! looks like we'll be 9	[14:56]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Newbie Question: How to insert Chinese characters in an English document - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=38741	[15:15]
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jonnyb	hmm, chealer - i'm trying to fix the wiki syntax thing on the img and filelink plugin forms - any ideas?	[15:32]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29692 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (12 files in 12 dirs): Tiki version info removed from stylesheet into comment.	[15:37]
chealer	jonnyb: one moment jonnyb: do you agree it must be due to the change to list_file_gallery_content.tpl ? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/templates/list_file_gallery_content.tpl?r1=29114&r2=29471 chealer tries to understand exactly what the commit allows jonnyb: where was the selector used other that these plugins?	[15:38]
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jonnyb	sorry chealer - back yes, it was definitely that commit that broke it - just trying to work out how to do the other thing as well (i'd forgotten that it used the same filegal list in plugin edit)	[15:46]
chealer	jonnyb: but where is the selector used other than these plugins?	[15:50]
jonnyb	adding images to pages if you mean the filegals_manager? that's what it always used to do, before the plugin edit forms stuff	[15:50]
chealer	jonnyb: how can I see it working well?	[15:51]
jonnyb	edit a page, click the "choose or upload images" button	[15:52]
chealer	jonnyb: OK, I get it	[15:52]
jonnyb	initially i was going to add a new url param to say to use the fileId, but that filegals_manager one is in about 50 files (messy) so i think i might just make it work differently for "areas" starting "fgal_picker" use only the id	[15:53]
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coaboa	how can I open a banner url in a new window? Adding target="_new" to the banner click url doesnt work?	[16:13]
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coaboa	hi ricks99 do you know how to open a banner in a new tab/window	[16:21]
ricks99	tiki banner feature?	[16:22]
coaboa	y	[16:22]
ricks99	use html and simply add target="_blank" to the href	[16:22]
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coaboa	that ends up wit myhost.com/clickurl target="" and a page not fount	[16:23]
ricks99	leave the url blank in the banner definition. instead add the actual target within the html area if you want to track clicks, add the ? stuff within the <a href > in the HTML area	[16:24]
coaboa	ok thx a lot	[16:25]
ricks99	no prob	[16:25]
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chealer	jonnyb: I see what you mean. I don't quickly see a quick fix, except what you propose, which does not sound too bad.	[16:44]
jonnyb	i'm wrestling with it - fix coming soon (i hope!)	[16:45]
fabricius	for my big project I naaed a simple funcion, that we need for the preparation of a coference that happens in 5 weeks	[16:48]
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fabricius	question: what happens, if I setup a guest-user and several people login the same time with that guest account AND fill the same tracker with lets say adress files. will that bring tiki or the database into conflicts, or will that work? naaed -> need, sorry	[16:48]
ricks99	i believe concurrency issues are handled directly by msyql. not really a tiki issue	[16:58]
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HideMe	How do I stop sessions from expiring (forcing users to login again) after an hour?	[17:06]
fabricius	ricks - I have been loged in with the same name from two browsers aswell as fron two computers the same time before without problem ricks99: I think, that might be a sign for that it would work, er?	[17:10]
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ricks99	i have never heard of anyone having issues	[17:11]
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chealer	HideMe: use Remember me?	[17:21]
HideMe	chealer, yes, currently set to "always" and duration is "10 hours". The cookie is using domain.com, but I have both domain.com & domain.net in use. Could that be it?	[17:24]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29693 10/branches/6.x/lib/ (filegals/filegallib.php tiki-js.js): [FIX] fgals manager: fix syntax for when used as a picker from the plugin edit popup and fileId or the url is required. (thanks chealer)	[17:39]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29694 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [DB] Fix order for sefurl tiki-download_file.php without params (needs to happen after thumbnail, display etc)	[17:42]
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chealer	HideMe: yes	[18:13]
HideMe	chealer, Ok, well then how to I state domain.* ?	[18:15]
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chealer	HideMe: you can't (you can only do *.domain)	[18:20]
HideMe	Mmm ok... so "wiki.domain" will do the trick? vs wiki.doamin.com or wiki.domain.net	[18:21]
ttrimm	Just finished this. any ideas for an opening graphic?? http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Tiki-Wiki-Onto-a-Windows-Computer	[18:23]
chealer	HideMe: no, I mean you can't share cookies between different TLD-s only between different subdomains	[18:23]
HideMe	k	[18:23]
chealer	HideMe: was there a domain change?	[18:24]
HideMe	Nope... I just have both the .com and .net, was gonig to use both.	[18:24]
ricks99	why not simply forwrad the .net to the .com?	[18:25]
HideMe	because one is on my lan and the other is on the Internet. No biggie. I'll just use the .com	[18:26]
olinuxx	bye all	[18:26]
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changi	does someone know why there is a comment value on file ? there are no possibility to add one but you can choose to display it or not !! that's strange	[19:39]
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changi	chealer: any idea ?	[19:46]
chealer	changi: what file do you mean?	[19:48]
changi	file in file_galleries there is a column in tiki_files related to that comment, but no panel to set it so my opinion is that, 1/ maybe it is useless 2/ if it is use we need to add this field when editing file properties and third, maybe it is redundant with description	[19:49]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29695 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29620 \| sept_7 \| 2010-09-26 04:48:59 +0200 (Sun, 26 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [FIX/bp 29618] Sanitize input tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29696 10/branches/5.x/tiki-edit_wiki_section.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29630 \| sept_7 \| 2010-09-26 12:43:54 +0200 (Sun, 26 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [FIX/bp 29629] sanitize inputs... tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29697 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki.tpl: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29649 \| chibaguy \| 2010-09-27 06:02:18 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [FIX] Fullscreen button wasn't displaying (commit restores r27353 change that got reverted at some point). tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29698 10/branches/5.x/tiki-adminusers.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29653 \| chealer \| 2010-09-27 09:39:25 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [bp/r29651][SEC] Add authenticity checks and switch from ticketlib[1] to ticketlib2 tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29699 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29659 \| chealer \| 2010-09-27 18:36:30 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [bp/r29656][FIX]edit section: obsolete files tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29700 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29664 \| chealer \| 2010-09-27 19:34:25 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [bp/r29663][FIX] undefined $tikipath breaking JS with display_errors and when showing notices tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29701 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29669 \| sept_7 \| 2010-09-27 21:08:37 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [FIX/bp 29667] PHP notice and absolute include path tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29702 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29675 \| chealer \| 2010-09-27 21:52:46 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [FIX] tiki-jsplugin.php (reverts r29669) tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29703 10/branches/5.x/installer/schema/20100927_better_column_fix_tiki.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29676 \| changi67 \| 2010-09-27 22:00:41 +0200 (Mon, 27 Sep 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [bp/29672] ~FIX~ Fix missing column checking if they exist or not tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29704 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29679 \| sept_7 \| 2010-09-28 00:44:17 +0200 (Tue, 28 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: [FIX/bp 29677] typo :( tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29705 10/branches/5.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29682 \| sept_7 \| 2010-09-28 01:02:07 +0200 (Tue, 28 Sep 2010) \| 3 lines tikiwiki: [FIX/bp 29680] more sanitization of input variable to avoid varcheck error just tikiwiki: after.	[20:30]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29706 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-view_forum_thread.tpl: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29684 \| pkdille \| 2010-09-28 09:50:55 +0200 (Tue, 28 Sep 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: Homogenize titles in tiki-view_forum_thread and in tiki-view_forum tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29707 10/branches/5.x/tiki-edit_wiki_section.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r29689 \| chealer \| 2010-09-28 15:48:53 +0200 (Tue, 28 Sep 2010) \| 2 lines tikiwiki: Empty file on upgrades rather than delete for upgrades from Tiki 5 through overwriting	[20:36]
chealer	changi: it's kind of an edit summary, used when replacing a file	[20:42]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29708 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 5.3 release	[20:46]
changi	chealer: and where did you find the panel to set this comment ?	[20:53]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29709 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.3	[20:54]
chealer	changi: it asks you after you replace a file	[20:54]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29710 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.3 tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29711 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.3	[20:55]
changi	chealer: as replace you mean upload a new version ? chealer: maybe i missed something, because i can't find it. Maybe i will tomorrow, bye and thx for your time	[20:58]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29712 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.3_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 5.3	[21:03]
chealer	changi: yes. you'll see Replace in the actions context menu	[21:06]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29713 10/tags/5.3/: [REL] Tagging release	[21:07]
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CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29714 10/branches/6.x/css/jscalendar.css: tikiwiki: [FIX] Trackers: jscalendar fields popping up invisible or partly invisible due to lower z-index than tabs (0<1). Set global jscalendar z-index to 6. tikiwiki: Thanks Guillaume Hamel tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29715 10/branches/proposals/5.x/css/jscalendar.css: [bp/r29714][FIX] Trackers: jscalendar fields popping up invisible or partly invisible due to lower z-index than tabs (0<1).	[22:49]
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ttrimm	http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Tiki-Wiki-Onto-a-Windows-Computer	[23:38]
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