#tikiwiki 2010-09-29,Wed

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chahn	Hi all :)	[01:52]
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chahn	fabricius: Thanks for the other day's help. You helped me escape from i18n configuring headache :)	[01:55]
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chahn	Now I am ready for another new headache :)	[01:57]
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fabricius	hey chahn so it did work out?	[02:04]
chahn	Yes, I was very happy :) thank you.	[02:05]
fabricius	cool I actually have an dumpDB import headache can take the dump from one DB, but do not get it in the other one table per table would work but he (the DB server) would not take the db under nocircumstances	[02:08]
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chahn	Even though I didn't understand why it worked like that. I am happy that I can be troubled later with that.... Is the DB server working on another person or company's computer?	[02:12]
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chahn	fabricius: Isn't because the dumped data is beyond phpMyadmin's max file size, if you are using it?	[02:22]
fabricius	checked no	[02:23]
chahn	Then it might be encoding problem. What do you think?	[02:24]
fabricius	you mean, a wrong encoded DB probably could not be imported? I thought s.th. about that, but not really can imagine	[02:28]
chahn	fabricius: Have you tried it in shell mode? Then what was the error message?	[02:29]
fabricius	the single table I can import shell: errormessage dbhost not foeund found	[02:29]
chahn	I once have similar experience but at that time I was upgrading Mysql from 3.x to 5.x.	[02:31]
fabricius	same managed hosting tarif tried with phpmyAdmin, with php script and with shell quatriple checked and talked to the night support - checked aswell several times	[02:32]
chahn	What did you type exactly in shell? oh.. you are using hosting service? Then how about trying to move DB to your MysqlServer running on your desktop computer first?	[02:35]
fabricius	hm superior idea and reorganise there!?	[02:38]
chahn	At least you can see if your way is wrong or their server is wrong.	[02:38]
fabricius	how can I get a MySQL DB / Server onto my Desktop? - I´d say that I should dfinitely have done a while ago	[02:39]
chahn	Do you know Xampp?	[02:39]
fabricius	jo - but never installed for windows?	[02:40]
chahn	http://www.apachefriends.org/ Here you can download Xampp ( Apache+PHP+Mysql) and can easily install it.	[02:41]
fabricius	kk thx	[02:41]
chahn	Windows and others too :) My pleasure	[02:41]
olinuxx	bye all	[02:42]
chahn	bye olinuxx	[02:43]
fabricius	bye olinuxx chahn: right now, while we talked, I just tried for good to export a nice utf8-Tiki5 DB and imported it in a new empty utf8 DB - worked perfekt just a few minutes altogether, like it should be I think, the DB must be broken somehow	[02:44]
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chahn	fabricius? Does it mean that your problem is solved now?	[02:50]
fabricius	not really, but I came nearer to the problem it self	[02:50]
chahn	Ok	[02:51]
fabricius	to solve a problem, you must know the problem, isn´t it? so your idea with xammp is beautiful - I already start to download and to read the installation	[02:51]
chahn	OK :) I am glad that I can help you.	[02:52]
fabricius	I am lucky, that you are online right now and I am happy whenever I can help, aswell most times, still I get more help, than I am able to give but learning every day :-D	[02:53]
chahn	:) You already did the same for me too. ..Where are you ?	[02:55]
fabricius	wouldn´t it be possible to install Tiki locally with xammp? Germany and you?	[02:55]
chahn	Korea	[02:56]
fabricius	here it is 5 in the morning ah sure :-D	[02:56]
chahn	Here it's 12. Noon. I am running my experimental Tikiwiki on Xampp in Windows.	[02:56]
fabricius	you asked me anbout i18n for korean and your name is chan ... but anyway you could also live in Germany or anywhere else in teh world kk I´ll try that now aswell	[02:57]
chahn	Right, :) But I've only been there long time ago. Ok	[02:58]
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fabricius	re just have been hanged new started	[03:18]
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chahn	fabricius, any progress?	[04:08]
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fabricius	not really ... xammp installed, but not yet through the documantation ;-) but luckily one of my admns woke up recently and he tries to connect to DB from his laptop and to repair the DB So helpü arrived and I have some time to get into xammp and local tiki ... ;-) perhabs I try the otherone aswell - tiki on pc or so I´ll let you know, when we have any news - good or bad	[04:10]
chahn	Ok good. Have a nice day fabricius. I will be back later bye :)	[04:15]
fabricius	chahn: c u soon and thx	[04:15]
chahn	fabricius: you re wellcome. See u :)	[04:16]
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fabricius	HELLO ADMIN => just realised right now, that the download link to 3.7 LTS on tiki.org leads to 5.2 ... perhabs sb could fix ? thx - (I go further to sourceforge meanwhile)	[05:11]
chealer	fabricius: that one? http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/TikiWiki%203.x%20-Betelgeuse-/Tiki%203.6/	[05:21]
CIA-69	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29717 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: add 5.3 to twversion file	[05:21]
fabricius	yes chealer actually ... ... yes	[05:21]
chealer	fabricius: 5.2 is mentioned, but also 3. it's true that 5 is prominent, unfortunately we don't have full control on SF	[05:25]
fabricius	for me it´s not so essential, as I have 3.7, 5.3 and 6branch now, but sb. who has control should change the link someday - just wanted to mention	[05:26]
chealer	fabricius: so how would you change it?	[05:28]
fabricius	if I would have control, I´d say I would now :-D really, I just wanted to mention it to an admin, as I guess, an admin mostlikely would know, who mostlikely would have access look, I am somehow still an AMSU in the community (ok, I do my best to learn asap) - so the leats I can do is to mention what I see and see then what happens least I meant chealer: sry, kind of tired again - another night with more DB-problemsthan sleep I found now, that some of my tiki3.6 tables have index-issues in 8 tables I have either index and unique, index and primary or two indexes in one column would probably an update to tiki 3.7 would fix that? anybody know? I´ll try anyway	[05:29]
chealer	fabricius: what do you mean by AMSU? fabricius: my question is how would you change the link?	[05:40]
fabricius	chealer: AMSU = assumingly most silly user chealer: how: assumed, somebody of the tikicommunity would have access to sourceforge as an admin editor with certain rights or kind of that and assumed I would be that person, I guess I would login to some kind of admin panel and correct the link by typing in another set of signs ... ... assumed i would not be that person, I would change the link by asking the appropriate person ... and assumed, I would not know, by asking for an admin who assumingly should know in the end of the day I have no idea, how the adminpanels of sourceforge look like and how to change the link over there assumed they do not work with tiki	[05:40]
chealer	fabricius: sourceforge just has the linked page. we can't change that page completely, we only control what is in the folder and I guess what is the recommended file to download	[05:45]
fabricius	ah - understand better now => I did "click" on that link, because I thought it was a misstyping ... so with this information I would try to find access to the folder ... ... and check the file there possibly it´s just the wrong file in there ??	[05:46]
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chealer	fabricius: the folder has several files, as the page shows fabricius: what's the problem with that?	[05:47]
fabricius	chealer: jupi, but I wondered, why I did download a 5.2 over there - I´ll try again, just to check	[05:48]
chealer	fabricius: do you mean you have 2 indices both on a single column?	[05:48]
fabricius	ok, checked again - is downloading 5.2 like written on the button - I do not know how to fix and I got 3.7 anyway chealer: to the database: I am pretty sure, that the database is corrupt, cause this specific db i cannot reimport after i took a dump and i found those index errors (after a long night) never have been into this mysql stuff a collegue of my orga did help me in the end but back to track yes, it seems, that those 8 tables have 2 indizes or at least two parameters in one row, they should not have wanna have a look? vafk.de/_torsten/mySQL-bund-20100929-001.jpg (german PHPmyAdmin) Whats, if I delete those files? before updating to 3.7 I think the 3.7 installer might fix that, isnt´t it?	[05:50]
chealer	fabricius: eh, sorry but I don't know German fabricius: what is the problem with having 2 indices in a table? what do you mean by parameter?	[05:55]
fabricius	chealer: I do not know ... the phpmyadmin says it would be a fault that should be strictly avoided - and the db I cannot import after having it exported => ?? chealer: I just try to find the fault ah parameter mom: Warning at the indexes of the table `tiki_comments` Warning the index types INDEX and UNIQUE should not be set for in the column `parentId` at the same time stuff like that I do not know if unique is an actual index (=> index type) or s.th. else ... it semms to be some parameter of the table, that is set wrong more understandable now?	[05:57]
	I guess I do not find the right words to explain the problem, because I neither understand mySQL nor the problem ... just cannot get out a dump, that i coul import to a new empty DB	[06:09]
chealer	fabricius: unique uses an index, yes	[06:13]
fabricius	and IS it an index?	[06:14]
chealer	fabricius: yes	[06:18]
fabricius	thx	[06:19]
chealer	fabricius: what indices do you have on that table? fabricius: I'm afraid there's something wrong with MySQL if it allows you to export data but not to reimport the dump	[06:22]
fabricius	for ex table tiki_comments -> index and unique in the column parentID I checked another DB, could export and import this one not	[06:23]
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Ma	Hello Anyone in? What is recommended memory limit?	[06:35]
fabricius	^^ I do not know, but I guess between 20 and 60 ??? I think I have 40 or so	[06:37]
Ma	:O I have 256M now And I get PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 4194304 bytes) in When I try to "edit templates"	[06:39]
yonixxx	hello ma 256m is A LOT...	[06:45]
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Ma	yonixxx: Yes. I know. But why cannot I access edit templates? Still with 256M...	[06:47]
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yonixxx	let me try to check with, i have a few minutes. which tw version ?	[06:47]
Ma	5.1	[06:47]
yonixxx	k	[06:48]
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yonixxx	Mfff it look wrong here too.	[06:52]
Ma	yonixxx: I just get a blank page. So do you?	[06:53]
yonixxx	no ok now, i have RE validated permissions and now i can see all the templates when clicking on "Edit template" may be you have a corrupted tpl ?	[06:54]
Ma	yonixxx: I installed tiki last week. I don't think I have	[06:54]
yonixxx	or something weird in your template folder	[06:54]
fabricius	hmmm anybody has an idea, why my tiki_link_cache is rising unbelievable massive?	[06:55]
yonixxx	i understand "rising unbelievable massive" ca veut dire quoi ? :D	[06:55]
Ma	yonixxx: but should it really load ALL templates on loading page....?	[06:55]
yonixxx	it does. i can't if it should :) it just load a list of template (link)	[06:56]
fabricius	ca veut dire approximativ ... 40 MB a deux ou trois heures ...	[06:56]
Ma	yonixxx: really..? how could I have the problem with not enough memory	[06:57]
fabricius	ou 60 MB dans quelques jour - ca depend	[06:57]
yonixxx	fabricius... wouao !	[06:57]
fabricius	jahuu - des problèmes avec le DB	[06:58]
yonixxx	ma; something is wrong there, what have you modified already ? theme	[06:58]
Ma	yonixxx: I've changed the swedish language file AND added a custom.css That's it	[06:58]
yonixxx	fabricius; j'avais pas mal de soucis de db aussi j'ai utlise tout ce que j;ai trouve sur le web pour optimiser msql, ca m'a beaucoup aide pour desbusquer les merdouilles ! ma; get back to english/basic css and check... may be	[06:59]
fabricius	yonixxx: merci	[07:00]
Ma	That couldn't be the problem..	[07:00]
yonixxx	Fabricius; 2mn je regarde ce que j'avais installe comme outils sur ma lenny ma; anyway it worth the test	[07:01]
Ma	The problem is reported in initlib.php on line 203 this $phpErrors[] = $back;	[07:01]
fabricius	lenny?	[07:02]
yonixxx	fabricius; debian, mais je suppose qu'on doit pouvoir trouver des outils similaires. Surtout ca t'evitera de chercher des heures ! mysqlsla-2.03, mysqltuner.pl, uning-primer.sh	[07:03]
changi	fabricius: c'est la stable de DEBIAN	[07:03]
fabricius	ahh ui	[07:03]
yonixxx	hello Changi	[07:03]
changi	yonixxx: salut	[07:03]
yonixxx	Changi; t'as pas envie d'apporter une ou deux ameliorations sur le module "Articles" par hasard :D :D :D j'ai essaye de voir ca mais je ne suis pas un codeur.	[07:05]
changi	changi: et tu penses que j'en suis un ? :) tiens au passage c'est quoi mysqlsla ?	[07:05]
yonixxx	ah merde :D :D :D... j'aurais bien aime disposer d'une option random (pour afficher les articles au hasard) et de corriger un bug lorsqu'on est en r2l (hebrew) = l'alignement ne se fais correctement (align right) Changi; mysqla (de memoire) traque les slow querry en creant une liste http://hackmysql.com/mysqlsla_guide	[07:06]
changi	yonixxx: cool yonixxx: pour le random je pense que l'option de la requete sql doit pas être complexe	[07:10]
Ma	changi: maybe you know about edit_templates?	[07:11]
yonixxx	Changi; je veux bien te croire... ;) Tu m'avais donne un lead y a pas longtemps mais j'ai pas tellement pu aller plus loin. Ma; have you tried reseting language and theme ? Fabricius; juste pour enfoncer le clous, j'avais sans arret des reproches au sujet de tw par mon admin server. depuis... la paix :)	[07:11]
changi	yonixxx: ce qui veut dire que tu as tunner a fond mysql ?	[07:15]
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xavi	polom	[07:16]
yonixxx	oui tout ce que je pouvais et depuis la machine respire et tw n'est plus un elephant. J'ai juste un probleme avec les articles (decidement) sur ma tw 5.1 le moindre edit ou traduction mouline a mort. :( Hola Xavi (it is an international chat day ! :D) yonixxx switching back to english anyway	[07:16]
xavi	:-) ah, ja veig	[07:17]
yonixxx	ich nichth spreach deutch but french :0	[07:18]
xavi	= ah, I see	[07:18]
changi	xavi: hello	[07:19]
yonixxx	Changi; i just followed the instruction of the scripts and recommandation. piece of cake, even for me :)	[07:19]
changi	xavi: sorry for that french session :)	[07:19]
xavi	hi changi, no problem there used to be a real-time translation machine with the mibbit chat interface... that was fun xavi using pidgin and irc directly today (from home)	[07:19]
changi	xavi: nice	[07:21]
yonixxx	Beside no need to be sorry tw is an international project... but of course english is a fair choice (even after Waterloo !).	[07:21]
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changi	yonixxx: LOL	[07:21]
yonixxx	Yeah :) Changi; i have some hours to kill today, can you send me back the lead about random-articles, may be i get luckier today.	[07:22]
Ma	yonixxx: theme is default	[07:25]
yonixxx	Ma; and still the error ?	[07:25]
Ma	yonixxx: yes 512M memory limit nu now*	[07:26]
yonixxx	Ma; ...	[07:26]
Ma	:P There is something wrong..	[07:26]
changi	Ma: 512 Mo, Ma: It's a lot	[07:30]
Ma	mo?	[07:31]
changi	oups french, Mb	[07:31]
Ma	changi: Yeah, and I still can't load edit templates page	[07:31]
changi	Ma: does server have LOAD ?	[07:32]
Ma	changi: no	[07:32]
changi	Ma: it takes 100% of a CPU ?	[07:33]
Ma	changi: I'll see	[07:39]
	changi: Maybe, it is a quad changi: In one sec I saw 23% CPU load And I guess PHP is single-threaded :)	[07:44]
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Artem	Hello there. I'm having problem with PluginEquation Can anyone help with this case?	[08:07]
Ma	Artem: please tell us about the problem, is there someone who could help I'm sure they will do.	[08:08]
Artem	Ok. So, I installed tikiwiki at hostgator. After this I enabled plugin from the admin panel. Now, when I'm entering {EQUATION()}e=mc^2{EQUATION} I'm getting "Unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula. Error 4" Chat ensured me that i have LaTex disrtibution prerequisites	[08:10]
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Artem	Any suggestions? I've googled already and there is nothing useful with this particular PluginEquation error.	[08:23]
xavi	Artem, no idea. I'm having a quick look at the code. Are you using tiki5?	[08:23]
Artem	yeah, 5.1	[08:24]
xavi	mmm, in latex, what does error 4 mean? well, the graph from the formula is not produced, for sure, looking at the code	[08:25]
changi	Ma: php is multi thread	[08:26]
xavi	but don't know why I'ev never tried this plugin, and I've neveer used latex	[08:26]
Artem	i have no idea what does error 4 mean	[08:27]
xavi	and is that formula syntax latex syntax?	[08:28]
coaboa	have you checked http://doc.tiki.org/pluginequation	[08:28]
xavi	oh, sorry, that's the formula used in the documentation mmmm, no idea myself. it looks like a bug, then	[08:29]
Artem	yeah, this is latex syntax	[08:30]
xavi	have you tried in your local machine? if so, and same effects, then there must be a bug, and should be fixed by some latex-skilled coder (not me)	[08:30]
Artem	yeah, same problem. and not only with this particular example	[08:30]
xavi	you can request help (if urget for you) to some other consultans, if you wish mmm, do you have the right permissions on those directories ? as stated at the documentation?	[08:31]
Artem	yeah, i talked with tech support and they assured that everything is fine	[08:32]
xavi	oh well, then something must be differnt from here: http://help.csregistry.org/tiki-index.php?page=LatexExample oh well, that last url comes from a tiki 4.0 site... so then, the hypothesis of a bug in 5.x is bigger	[08:32]
coaboa	but doc.tw.o is 6.x isn't it?	[08:34]
xavi	yes however, are you sure that that image in doc.t.o is produced in real time, or an image from somewhere else? :-)	[08:34]
Artem	tried last url samples - same error	[08:35]
coaboa	that would be nodoogfooding ;-)	[08:36]
xavi	Artem, or ask in the devel list. some other coders might have another answer for you (or even fix it quickly if small bug) my 2 cents	[08:37]
Artem	where is this list?	[08:38]
xavi	link to the devel list: see http://tiki.org/Support	[08:38]
Artem	and what list i need? oh, i see	[08:38]
Ma	changi: ok. Anyway, 23% I saw. But it is just for a sec, then the script is finished loading	[08:44]
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xavi	changi, are you used to "open_basedir restriction in effect" error messages? I mean, do you know tips to search for solutions to avoid this error message? I have this error in the error messages shown through the box at the bottom of Tiki pages and when I select "show php errors only to admin", then I used to have problems, because users were not able to see anything since then, I allow seing those errors to anybody, in order to keep the site alive but I wonder, what should I do to fix those open_basedir errors in my site the host is in safe mode, etc. the type of errors are: PHP (5.2.13) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/internals/core.get_include_path.php Line: 34 Type: is_readable() [function.is-readable]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/...server_path.../share/pear/lib/smarty_tiki//modifier.count.php) is not within the allowed path(s): (/...home_path.../data:.) (sorry for multiline error message , oups :-/ ) ^changi, or any sys admin, any tip? niclone, btw, do you know if plugin equation is working for you also in Tiki 5.x? niclone: this site: http://help.csregistry.org/tiki-index.php?page=LatexExample seems to be using pluginequation successfuly but running on tiki 4.x	[08:58]
yonixxx	Xavi : same here about "open_basedir restriction in effect" error messages	[09:09]
xavi	ok, yonixxx, if you ever know how to avoid that error, any tip wil be welcome :-)	[09:10]
changi	xavi: in tiki6 ?	[09:16]
xavi	yes and same in tiki5	[09:16]
changi	maybe it about the recent commit from sept since when you have this problem	[09:17]
xavi	"recent commit": nope, that problem is shown in that server since I moved to that server, using tiki5.0 and probably, due to some security modules in apache, or who knows and that migration was like 3 months ago or earlier	[09:17]
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xavi	I'm testing the upgrade to Tiki6, and I'd like to reduce the errors in the server as much as possible while documenting how to avoid them, if other users have those errors in their server (e.g., ynixx also has it, it seems, and maybe many more people) afaik, tiki runs, but you have to let anons view those errors which is not a perfect workaround if at least, those errors could be hidden from anons, while allowing them to see the site, that would be a better workaround, imho	[09:19]
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Ma	changi: any idea?	[09:34]
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yonixxx	Xavi ; same :) i know that there is such an option (able/disable inside my vhosts files)	[09:45]
xavi	able/disable what?	[09:45]
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changi	Ma: not at the moment.	[09:55]
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Ma	changi_lunch: damn	[10:05]
yonixxx	Xavi; sorry i was "distracted" :) by a fight in the 300's movie. Well as i have root access on my server i have seen the option "open_basedir restriction in effect" i can switch it off. My beleive is that it is not safe and it would better to check what is the bug or the problem in TW	[10:09]
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yonixxx	lunch here too cu	[10:20]
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talin	hello. when i upload PNG-images with transparent background, why do they appear as small images with black background? is this a known problem?	[10:21]
Ma	I guess the image is converted wrong during uploading. Sounds like the alpha-channel isn't following	[10:22]
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talin	Ma: yeah. i wish there was a way to not convert it	[10:25]
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xavi	talin: afaik, it's a problem in gd, not in tiki afaik, it happens in most php applications using gd	[10:41]
talin	ah, i see	[10:42]
Ma	Not really :P But some of them!	[10:42]
xavi	I'm afraid that thumnailing is converting image to jpg	[10:42]
talin	is there a way to upload the pictures without this converting thing? if i put them on another site and link to them from there, it works fine... but that takes ages	[10:42]
xavi	talin, what you can do in Tiki is to avoid using the thumb=y param	[10:42]
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xavi	the problem is asking the application (Tiki or others) to do the thumbnailing, since it converts to jpg, afaik and no transparency, then if you don't resize the image (png with transparency) on the serevr, everything is fine see all my png's with transparency in http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki6 , for instance	[10:43]
talin	xavi: oooh, removing thumb=y works now!	[10:44]
xavi	of course, it has always worked afaik I wish image resizing was done in png keeping transparency also... but... it's a known issue alive in Tiki (and in other apps) for years	[10:44]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[10:45]
xavi	hi ricks99	[10:45]
ricks99	hi xavi	[10:45]
talin	thanks xavi	[10:46]
xavi	welcome, talin. Feel free to add this tip in the documentation pages, wherever you would have expected to find it I mean, somewhere among: http://doc.tiki.org/Documentation ^ talin	[10:46]
talin	xavi: sure, i will do that	[10:47]
xavi	thanks talin! :-)	[10:47]
talin	i have to register through ohloh first?	[10:51]
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xavi	talin: ohloh first? nope. just use your tw account on doc.t.o I mean, register at http://tiki.org/register if you don't have a tiki account yet and use that account details at doc.t.o or any other *.t.o site	[11:14]
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chahn_	HI, TikiV6 seems to use more complicated Captcha form. It must be a progress. But if I still want to use Verion5.x's simple captcha, can I go back to older tiki captcha?	[12:05]
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auto	I need help :[	[12:46]
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auto	busy? Lucks can you help? ;[	[12:46]
ricks99	What is your question auto?	[12:48]
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auto	I added a ad to my Banner and now my content is not showing I published without Previewing :/	[12:48]
ricks99	Using the Tiki banner function?	[12:49]
auto	yea is there a way to disable it via FTP? Or even change the Code via FTP	[12:49]
ricks99	If you can access the database, you can delete the offending banner	[12:50]
auto	Can you explain how to?	[12:50]
ricks99	See http://bit.ly/brteem you will need to edit the tiki_banners table	[12:52]
auto	I'm not very experienced with phpmyadmin I'm looking at the Stucture for tiki_banners	[12:56]
ricks99	no structure. browse the content	[12:56]
auto	won't let me browse Table is empty	[12:57]
ricks99	then you dont have a banner	[12:58]
auto	.................. I have a banner. When you go to admin	[12:58]
ricks99	just to confirm, you added a tiki banner as shown in the docs: http://doc.tiki.org/banners	[12:58]
auto	if there was a ScreenShot I'd be able to confirm It places the banner on the top For all pages.	[12:59]
ricks99	pls see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Banner+Admin	[12:59]
auto	And you can choose permissions on who sees it Never seen that Sites ads and banners thats the one	[12:59]
ricks99	If you created a banner and bannerzone, it should be in the database table what Tiki version are you using?	[13:01]
auto	not sure to be honest	[13:02]
ricks99	you have a banner and your tiki_banners table is empty?	[13:03]
auto	that's what it shows http://proggie.org	[13:03]
ricks99	ricks99 is confused	[13:03]
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auto	There's gotta be a way to change the code via FTP it's stored somewhere.	[13:05]
ricks99	Try posting on the support forum, sorry. If you created a banner it should be in the tiki_banners table	[13:05]
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auto	maybe someone else might know if anybody else was talking ;/ So many people yet noones here :\|	[13:07]
ricks99	Still very early yet (at least in USA). I suggest posting to the support forum.	[13:12]
auto	Come to think of it there's got to be an alternative way to change permission for my bannerAd	[13:13]
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auto	I fixed it. Thank God for Opera8 <3 Correction Opera9 <33	[13:38]
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auto	thanks for trying to assist me ricks! I appreciate it	[13:41]
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xavi	chahn_: it sems not	[13:49]
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chealer	polom	[14:20]
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xavi	hi chealer & rodrigo_sampaio :-)	[14:29]
chealer	hi xavi	[14:30]
rodrigo_sampaio	hi xavi!	[14:31]
xavi	hi... rodrigo_sampaio, did I tell you that I was accepted the communication about PluginR to an international conference on Bioinformatics?	[14:33]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: great! xavi: where is the conference? ;)	[14:34]
xavi	in Malaga (Spain) see the pdf (with you cited also at the acknowledgements), linked from http://estbioinfo.stat.ub.es btw, sylvieg, many thanks also (you are also cited at the acknowledgements). See above ^	[14:34]
sylvieg	congrat xavi	[14:36]
xavi	thanks :-) I'm happy to see that this PluginR seems to be working for production so far in a few areas and it will be even more useful when the angle brackets are allowed in R syntax when used in smarty templates not urgent, but important. any news sylvie on that enhancement of the smarty or tiki parser?	[14:36]
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sylvieg	sorry xavi not yet	[14:42]
xavi	ok, no worries	[14:43]
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chahn_	xavi: If I still want the old Captcha and want to change it on code basis manually. Do you think it would ask me a lot of work?	[14:45]
xavi	no idea, chahn_, probably rodrigo_sampaio would know, I guess	[14:46]
chahn_	I see thanks for the comment :) rodrigo_sampaio, can you answer me?	[14:46]
rodrigo_sampaio	hi chahn_ chahn_: as far as I remember it is not hard chahn_: take a look at the svn history and see what I have changed chahn_: I suppose that svn revert will do the job for you	[14:50]
chahn_	hi, rodrigo_sampaio, OK, I will. thanks :)	[14:52]
rodrigo_sampaio	chahn_: let me know if you need more information	[14:52]
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chahn_	Ok, thanks. Oh by the way, is the former Captcha not enough for bot attacking?	[14:54]
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chahn_	I am totally ignorant if there are people who develop simple captcha images reading program and leave messages on other's website.	[14:57]
rodrigo_sampaio	chahn_: that is the main reason why we replaced the old captcha chahn_: was not strong enough, some scripts could understand the captcha chahn_: why you prefer the old one? chahn_: although there is no interface, it is easy to customize the new captcha customize its appearance	[15:04]
chahn_	I see. then I think I should use as I am given in version 6. Because my future visitors would include old people and disabled people. So sometimes I think it would be too difficult for them. How can I customize it? I tried with admin page but I could find it. sorry I couldn't find it rodrigo_sampaio, If I should look into the code would you tell me several php file names where I should start?	[15:06]
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Kimberlee	hello all :-)	[15:43]
chahn_	Hello Kimberlee :) fabricius: hi how was it?	[15:44]
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fabricius	hi chahn - fell asleep around 8:00 or so - the site is nearly completely dowm (still access to the admin panels)	[15:50]
chahn_	rodrigo_sampaio told me to look at svn history. Where can I see it? I searched for SVN. file in tiki installed directory but I couldn't find. And searching in tiki.org doesn't give the result.	[15:50]
fabricius	I build up new now chahn_ / chahn - using cvs export and such stuff to a new DB	[15:51]
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fabricius	chahn_ will have tobe prepared fo such situations when we go productive we will ;-)	[15:52]
chahn_	Ok good luck ! :) oh for us hehe	[15:52]
fabricius	so I fucked up, but good for learning - I hope that the people from the board will not freak out :-D	[15:53]
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chahn_	fabricius: if we still can enjoy then life would be ours :) It's 1 am here. I have to go to sleep. Bye fabricius and bye all.	[15:58]
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fabricius	by@all - c ya later	[16:07]
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xavi	molop marclaporte	[16:35]
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xavi	coaboa?	[17:43]
coaboa	hi sorry was afk	[17:49]
xavi	hi have you tried the socialnetwork integrtion in tiki? coaboa, I men the connection with Facebook in Tiki6 s/men/mean because I can't make it work it says: Enter <your site URL>tiki-socialnetworks.php as connect URL it says so at the tiki interface, to be added at the facebook configuration side but facebook complains that that url has no ending slash or ? at the url ... so I added / at teh end: http://mydomain.org/tiki-socialnetworks.php/ this way I could register that tiki site for facebook integration but later, when I validate that, I get an error from facebook saying that "Invalid redirect_uri: Given URL is not allowed by the Application configuration." I thought that it was you who had that feature requested to jörn maybe I'm wrong	[17:56]
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guide_pr	hello need some help	[18:00]
xavi	hi guide_pr	[18:00]
guide_pr	hi xavi	[18:00]
coaboa	yes it worked a while ago but since poiesipedia.com is stil closed (probably open from tomorrow)	[18:00]
guide_pr	i updated from 4.2 to 5.x and now my picture gallery page comes up blank	[18:01]
coaboa	I havent tried it so since then. Hopefully no regression.	[18:01]
guide_pr	pictures are there since they appear from forum posts (when linked in)	[18:01]
xavi	ok, coaboa, test in Tiki6 when you have an opportunity	[18:01]
coaboa	I'll chek I right away on another site yes we depend on it...	[18:01]
xavi	guide_pr: ensure that you run the upgrade process, while converting your db and tables (and content) to utf-8	[18:02]
guide_pr	did that	[18:02]
xavi	see http://doc.tiki.org/upgrade	[18:02]
guide_pr	interestinginly in control panel when I click file galleries the configuration page comes up malformed	[18:03]
xavi	I mean through tiki-install.php	[18:03]
guide_pr	xavi, i did the update of the database to the latin character set	[18:03]
xavi	there are three things that need to be changed to utf-8, and you can do them all if you run the upgrade from tiki-install.php	[18:03]
guide_pr	through the web-site	[18:03]
xavi	1 & 2: convert db and tables to utf-8	[18:04]
fabricius	guide_pr: where did you store the pictures and how did you update your tiki?	[18:04]
guide_pr	i guess the pictures were stored in the db	[18:04]
xavi	3: convert content from whatever chaset you had to utf-8 (that's allowed at the last step of tiki-install.php)	[18:04]
guide_pr	and i updated using the instructions and using the install script during the install it asked me to update to utf-8 and i did, which went without a problem	[18:04]
fabricius	did you update by overriding the old tikifiles, or by a new installation (what is recommended in the docs)	[18:05]
xavi	did you do (3) also?	[18:05]
guide_pr	check it out http://guide-pr.com and click on gallery	[18:05]
xavi	guide_pr: did you do (3) also?	[18:06]
guide_pr	i copied "update when newer" install over existing since i had data on the site	[18:06]
fabricius	install over existing is possible, but not recomended seems to possibly lead to problems I read in the docs	[18:07]
guide_pr	if i have the site backed up on my local computer (i.e., i copied it from the ftp) can I repeat the process? meaning copy old to the site and then re-copy new release files over it	[18:07]
fabricius	new installation seems to be better, but needs some preperation from start, if you want less work moving files out of the old inst and back in	[18:08]
guide_pr	should i try to remove the lock file and re run install script?	[18:09]
fabricius	did you make a backup (dump) of your db before upgrading?	[18:09]
guide_pr	my site makes a copy of the db automatically and periodically	[18:09]
xavi	guide_pr: did you do (3) also?	[18:10]
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fabricius	I would make up a new db, import the dump of before upgrading and check out again	[18:10]
guide_pr	xavi, did 3 but the install over existing	[18:10]
fabricius	and I would answer xavi s question ;-)	[18:10]
guide_pr	fabricious, the pictures are there	[18:10]
fabricius	loool	[18:10]
guide_pr	since they apear in the forum articles	[18:10]
fabricius	pics are in the db?	[18:10]
guide_pr	yes it is just that the gallery page does not come up	[18:11]
fabricius	but http://guide-pr.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse delivers a blank page	[18:11]
guide_pr	http://guide-pr.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse	[18:11]
fabricius	lol	[18:11]
guide_pr	empty --- plain white	[18:11]
fabricius	I see also+	[18:11]
xavi	yes, blank page, that's another story	[18:11]
guide_pr	also in the control panel	[18:12]
xavi	memory problem, probably	[18:12]
guide_pr	if i go to the file gallery configuration	[18:12]
xavi	please, apply the profile "debug mode enabled" (or similar)	[18:12]
guide_pr	that page comes up misconfigured and disfunctional	[18:12]
fabricius	#I would not recommend to save files in the databas anyway, because it leads to an awful big db	[18:12]
xavi	this will allow you to see the error message on the screen	[18:12]
fabricius	with my provider db size is limited to 100 MB	[18:12]
xavi	if you have never used profiles, guide_pr, see http://profiles.tiki.org	[18:13]
fabricius	I think that is usual with managed server hosting, aswell as with shared hosting	[18:13]
xavi	unless you know how to change manually how to show all php error messages and notices to users which are non-admin	[18:13]
guide_pr	if my pictures are now in the db is there a way to change that	[18:13]
xavi	guide_pr: read my comments, please	[18:13]
guide_pr	ok	[18:14]
xavi	fabricius: blank pages are (usally) memory problems fabricius: users need to enable error reporting to anons, usually, to see the error message in their screen	[18:14]
fabricius	thx xavi	[18:14]
xavi	fyi	[18:14]
guide_pr	wait i cleared all caches can you see the picture gallery?	[18:16]
xavi	coaboa, I'll send you a copy of the email I send to jörn with the screenshots of the problem I saw in Tiki6 in my recent test	[18:16]
guide_pr	i also enabled the error reporting	[18:16]
xavi	images are shown: http://guide-pr.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=18 nice places in PR, btw	[18:17]
guide_pr	perhaps the cache was screwing it up the cache was from before the upgrade? thanks xavi	[18:17]
coaboa	cool svn up takes for ever... test it asap	[18:18]
xavi	maybe no problem	[18:18]
guide_pr	thanks fabricious for now I'll keep the pictures in the database	[18:18]
	sorry guys if i move pictures to a directory what permissions should it have and how do i test if script can write to these damn, got to run, forgot that i have to teach :p	[18:23]
xavi	coaboa, email sent	[18:24]
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xavi	c u all	[19:05]
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Kimberlee	hello marclaporte - you missed quite a storm in florida yesterday. left for ny just in time. :-)	[19:24]
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marclaporte	thank you Nelson!	[19:59]
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guide_pr	anybody hello i'll try tomorrow, bye	[20:13]
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fabricius	polom	[21:48]
coaboa	hi	[21:48]
fabricius	hi coaboa	[21:48]
coaboa	fabricius, are you located in germany too?	[21:48]
fabricius	yes	[21:49]
coaboa	late ;-)	[21:49]
fabricius	Iasked you the same recently coaboa ... would you like to join teh german user group, that we are setting up now/soon	[21:50]
coaboa	sure I'll be for 100% in Berlin	[21:50]
fabricius	in t.o my username = Torsten - you? me too so let´s meet up there and discuss	[21:50]
coaboa	carsten.aevermann	[21:51]
fabricius	stefan mostlikely will come aswell ah you :-)	[21:51]
coaboa	coaboa is some kind of relict	[21:51]
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fabricius	actually I am restoring a tikisite db-crashed	[22:09]
coaboa	ups	[22:09]
fabricius	just some admin-access left	[22:09]
coaboa	but wit a recent dump you are back in a few minutes	[22:10]
fabricius	I will have to export the articles and the wikipages I have a recent dump - more than one - but they seem to be corrupt no way to import them I discovered that problem additionally to some tikisite-internal problems and trying to fix, I fucked up	[22:10]
coaboa	editing tables?	[22:12]
fabricius	deleting and reimport, such stuff some of my actions might have been silly so again it turns out, that I am halfway DAU or trnslated to english: AMSU :-D	[22:12]
coaboa	great potential for improving ;-)	[22:14]
fabricius	oh yes - great potential do you have an idea, how I can export the articles? didn´t find a function yet	[22:15]
coaboa	xml zip	[22:15]
fabricius	xml zip sounds good	[22:15]
coaboa	(wiki)	[22:15]
fabricius	it´s a tiki 3.6/3.7	[22:15]
coaboa	or Feature "Article" don't know excatly oldest ofmy sites running 4.2 should start with 3.0 as of : doc.tiki.org/XML+Import-Export have you seen that? fabricius: have to go, good luck with the xml export. Try to import it to a tiki running vm before deleting anything	[22:16]
fabricius	vm? whats that? virtual something?	[22:22]
coaboa	virtual machine (eg. vmplayer)	[22:22]
fabricius	ah kk thx have a nice time	[22:22]
coaboa	cu	[22:22]
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chealer	hi ttrimm thanks for the article on WebPI	[23:14]
ttrimm	No problem!!! I will probably have more. I write them as I do them. That way I know they are accurate	[23:14]
marclaporte	tks ttrimm	[23:26]
ttrimm	No problem. I like writing the articles. especially about wordpress and Tiki Wiki	[23:26]
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