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[01:19] <chahn> hi all, which file should I change if I want to change title bar's message as I want (such as adding 'Wiki:' for all wiki pages)?
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[02:12] <chahn> I tried to download http://doc.tiki.org/files/Tiki19beta.pdf but the link is broken. Where should I tell it?
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[03:11] <yanick_> hi, I need to have a <table> inside another <table>, so I resort into using the HTML plugin in the editor, but all it says is "Plugin execution pending approval" ... .... ... O_o what does it mean?
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[03:22] <yanick_> this is lame.... I need to save the page, and approve the plugin to view it.... but of course it's not working, so I have to go back into editing..... why doesn't it just work in preview mode??
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[03:46] <nkoth> yanick_: so called "temporary approval" of plugins that need admin approval for preview purpose, or otherwise "auto approval of plugins if you are an admin "is currently not a feature but yes that might be nice to have.
[03:47] <yanick_> nkoth, I finally wrote the whole thing directly using inline HTML, it works...
[03:48] <nkoth> gn all :)
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[03:49] <yanick_> well... it worked in the preview... now the sanitizer screwed it up
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[03:54] <yanick_> stupid plugin security
[03:55] <yanick_> I approve, and it won't approve... I'm freakin' admin
[03:55] <yanick_> it show my HTML <table> element right in the preview, but when I save, it shows my HTML code on the page instead of formatting it
[03:55] <yanick_> damn borken thing
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[04:24] <chibaguy> polom
[05:04] <chealer> hi chibaguy
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[08:27] <luci|abroad> hi chibaguy :)
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[14:38] <changi> does anyone know how to change admin password when we lost it ? 
[14:44] <JoernOtt> I always did look at tiki.sql where the hashed password for admin is stored and set the admin password back to admin
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[14:55] <changi> that's what i do
[14:55] <changi>  :)
[14:55] <changi> JoernOtt: thx
[15:17] <chealer> polom
[15:37] <changi> a beautifull bug, in tiki6 you cannot change your admin password :)
[15:37] <chealer> changi: apparently not via admin users anyway
[15:38] <changi> the confirm action does not work
[15:40] <chealer> changi: right, that's exactly what I was looking at
[15:40] <chealer> changi: "Click here to confirm your action" does nothing? (JavaScript error)
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[15:42] <daniam> Luciash:  tks for the comment.  I will re-upload the BBB interview.
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[16:18] <changi> chealer: javascript:document.forms['confirm'].submit();return false; <= that's the problem
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[16:26] <jonnyb> polom (uk)
[16:50] <chealer> changi: right. I'm wondering why though
[16:50] <chealer> changi: document.forms['confirm'] is undefined
[16:51] <chealer> document.forms is right
[16:51] <chealer> hi jonnyb. maybe you can help with this JavaScript problem...
[16:51] <jonnyb> hi chealer 
[16:51] <chealer> confirm is the name of an existing form
[16:52] <jonnyb> which page?
[16:52] <chealer> jonnyb: the CSRF confirmation page, when clicking "Click here to confirm your action"
[16:52] <chealer> it must not do it everywhere, but I get it in 5.x and 6.x, in admin users
[16:53] <chealer> you may get it if you click a user
[16:53] <chealer> I was looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-HTML/html.html#ID-75708506
[16:53] <chealer> it seems we want method namedItem
[16:54] <jonnyb> indeed - that's a bit odd isn't it? i'm not really doing something that needs confirm?
[16:54] * jonnyb greps for document.forms['confirm']
[16:54] <chealer> jonnyb: right. that's a separate problem, but I noticed this JS error when trying to fix what you just said
[16:54] <chealer> jonnyb: confirm.tpl I believe
[16:55] <chealer> {button href="#" _onclick="javascript:document.forms['confirm'].submit();return false;" _text="{tr}Click here to confirm your action{/tr}"}
[16:55] <jonnyb> got it
[16:55] <jonnyb> no js error though
[16:55] <chealer> jonnyb: so for you clicking the button works?
[16:55] <jonnyb> yup
[16:55] <jonnyb> in safari
[16:55] <chealer> for me, nothing happens (unless I open the console, in which case I see the error)
[16:55] <chealer> jonnyb: are you in 6.x?
[16:56] <jonnyb> trying in fx (on branch/6.x)
[16:56] <chealer> yeah, I'm in Iceweasel
[16:57] <chealer> I get it in Opera too.
[16:57] <jonnyb> also ok in fx
[16:58] <chealer> if you go to a user, then click Save (even without changing anything), you get the CSRF confirmation
[16:58] <chealer> ?
[16:58] <jonnyb> ok, trying that too (with break on error enabled)
[16:59] <jonnyb> ok, got it
[17:00] <chealer> wow, even in opera I get 37 HTML validation errors
[17:01] <chealer> I don't understand, in the validation page, one of the errors shows the string Generate a password
[17:01] <jonnyb> $("form[name=confirm]") seems to find it ok
[17:01] <chealer> which I don't find in the HTML source of the page
[17:01] <jonnyb> why is it name and not id?
[17:01] <chealer> jonnyb: probably no good reason, but trying to change to id didn't help here
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[17:05] <jonnyb> this seems to work ok for me:
[17:05] <jonnyb> {button _onclick="$("form[name=confirm]")[0].submit();return false;" _ajax="n" _text="{tr}Click here to confirm your action{/tr}"}
[17:07] <chealer> jonnyb: what does _ajax=n do?
[17:08] <jonnyb> stops it adding all the loadComponent stuff in the onclick fn
[17:08] <jonnyb> but i don't think that was the cause of that error
[17:09] <jonnyb> however, now when i click on a user name to edit it, when i confirm i go back to the list
[17:09] <jonnyb> :(
[17:10] <jonnyb> i have xajax on
[17:10] <jonnyb> any idea why it's asking to confirm just to edit?
[17:11] <chealer> jonnyb: yes, that's a regression from a recent CSRF patching
[17:12] <jonnyb> ok, you on it? ping if i can help...
[17:15] <chealer> yes, but I'm still totally confused
[17:17] <chealer> 1. Why did it work but doesn't anymore? 2. Why is the validator showing code not in the source. 3. Why does {button href="#" _onclick="javascript:$('#confirm').submit();return false;" _text="{tr}Click here to confirm your action{/tr}"} not work, without any error, having switched to id?
[17:19] <jonnyb> you need $('irc://irc.freenode.net/#confirm')[0].submit()
[17:19] <chealer> could it be that the validation tool is sending the validator the previous page, before the confirmation form? in both Opera and Firefox??
[17:20] <jonnyb> i mean: $('#confirm')[0].submit()
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[17:20] <jonnyb> $('#thing') is the jQuery object, which is also an array of dom elements
[17:21] <jonnyb> which validator are you talking about?
[17:22] <chealer> jonnyb: OK. that one fails with "$("#confirm")[0].submit is not a function"
[17:22] <chealer> jonnyb: what do you use in Firefox? I use Web Developer's Validate local HTML
[17:23] <jonnyb> i never found one that would do localhost pages
[17:23] <jonnyb> so usually copy the source into validator.w3.org
[17:23] <chealer> jonnyb: and in Opera, the one I found in development tools menu, Ctrl+Alt+Maj+U
[17:23] <jonnyb> i don't have opera
[17:25] <chealer> jonnyb: yesterday I figured Firefox/Web Developer was buggy so I saved the page and uploaded it to the validator manually. then it failed with 100+ errors, instead of 37
[17:25] <jonnyb> :D
[17:25] <chealer> I really couldn't make sense of the errors
[17:25] <chealer> jonnyb: I wish we were debugging this side-by-side
[17:26] <jonnyb> how about http://live.tiki.org ?
[17:26] <jonnyb> i'm there
[17:26] <jonnyb> but just doing to make T - brb
[17:27] <chealer> I'm afraid I have no working microphone on Linux :-(
[17:30] <chealer> $('#confirm')[0] is defined
[17:31] <chealer> [object HTMLFormElement]
[17:32] <chealer> that should definitely have a submit method: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/HTMLFormElement
[17:32] <jonnyb> oh... not mic, shame (not much point doing bbb)
[17:32] <chealer> yeah :-(
[17:33] <jonnyb> a debian thing?
[17:34] <chealer> it must be Linux-related, works on Windows, I think it already worked on Debian too
[17:34] <jonnyb> ah well
[17:34] <jonnyb> back to the confirm thing - you have xajax on?
[17:35] <chealer> jonnyb: I turned all AJAX stuff off when I hit the problem
[17:36] <jonnyb> cos sometimes ajax stuff "happens" in a weird scope and you have to tell it to use window.document.forms etc
[17:37] <jonnyb> as you say then, why did it change?
[17:38] <chealer> jonnyb: why it's not working anymore? no idea...
[17:39] <chealer> I'm trying {button href="#" _onclick="javascript:var conform = $('#confirm')[0];alert(conform);conform.submit();return false;" _text="{tr}Click here to confirm your action{/tr}"}
[17:39] <jonnyb> you mentioned some confirm changes recently?
[17:40] <chealer> jonnyb: I fixed missing CSRF checks recently, see http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/6.x/tiki-adminusers.php?r1=29485&r2=29651
[17:40] <jonnyb> try:  _onclick="javascript:debugger; var conform etc
[17:41] <chealer> so it could be that Admin users is more buggy comparing 6.x to 4.x, but it would mean ticketlib2 confirmation screens would be broken everywhere
[17:43] <jonnyb> first thing i'd do is stick a breakpoint in $access->check_authenticity() and see what's in there
[17:44] <chealer> jonnyb: OK...what does debugger change?
[17:44] <jonnyb> it shouldn't change anything, just let you see why it's being called, and what it's checking
[17:44] <chealer> jonnyb: you think? it's PHP code... we're getting a JS error.
[17:45] <jonnyb> well the js looks ok - i'm sure doc.forms[formName] used to work
[17:45] <chealer> jonnyb: me too, but it's causing a JS error now, something is wrong in the HTML/JS now
[17:45] <jonnyb> i'd like to know why it wants confirm of just editing
[17:46] <chealer> jonnyb: because one $access->check_authenticity() (the last) is at the wrong place
[17:46] <jonnyb> the other thing i'd suggest is that all those $access->check_authenticity() calls should send some text to say what you're confirming
[17:47] <jonnyb> aha, hadn't got to the bottom yet :)
[17:48] <chealer> jonnyb: right, that would be nice. the corresponding parameter for key_check() has always been optional, so I let it that way. there's a lot of work to do on deploying ticketlib2...
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[17:50] <jonnyb> looks to me like key_check doesn't have a text param
[17:50] <chealer> jonnyb: sorry, it must be key_get() then
[17:50] <jonnyb> yup - key_get does - what's the diff?
[17:52] <chealer> jonnyb: first you get a key, then you confirm you're doing an authentic request by sending that key in the confirmation form, which calls key_check() to verify it
[17:53] <jonnyb> ok, makes sense
[17:55] <chealer> gah, I have no idea what the problem is.
[17:57] * jonnyb distracted by it not setting the right tab after you save
[17:57] <jonnyb> seems to work ok now for me here
[17:57] <jonnyb> (the confirm button)
[17:59] <chealer> jonnyb: without code changes?
[17:59] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29917 10/branches/6.x/tiki-adminusers.php: 
[17:59] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: [FIX] Admin users: CSRF check done when just visualizing a user
[17:59] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: r29651 regression, oops. Thanks Sylvie Greverend. ticketlib2/confirm.tpl still broken
[17:59] <jonnyb> no, with a little change to confirm.tpl
[17:59] <luci|abroad> re
[17:59] <jonnyb> the one i pasted here earlier i think
[18:00] <jonnyb> polom luci|abroad 
[18:00] <jonnyb> you still abroad?
[18:00] <luci|abroad> jonnyb: hey jonny
[18:00] <chealer> jonnyb: yeah, I'll try it
[18:00] <jonnyb> (relatively)
[18:00] <luci|abroad> jonnyb: again :-p
[18:00] <jonnyb> where now?
[18:00] <luci|abroad> switzerland
[18:00] <jonnyb> coo
[18:01] * jonnyb is glad to be back at home, but still in the wrong timezone
[18:01] <chealer> hi luci|abroad
[18:01] <luci|abroad> at vladi´s sister´s
[18:01] <luci|abroad> hi chealer :)
[18:02] <jonnyb> nice there? i only went through switzerland once on a bus - looked pretty
[18:02] <luci|abroad> yea, it was no much sleep for me before going too, but luckily i was not driving alone
[18:02] <luci|abroad> yep, nice, just cloudy today again
[18:02] <jonnyb> oh, and i had lunch in Zurich once
[18:02] <luci|abroad> trying to sort out the pictures from tkifest now
[18:03] <luci|abroad> *tikifest
[18:03] <jonnyb> i recorded the guy saying "stand clear of the closing doors please" on the subway to jfk
[18:03] * chealer is getting really angry at JavaScript
[18:03] <jonnyb> chealer: relax :)
[18:04] <chealer> I started debugging this stupid problem yesterday. why does it have to be so hard to debug a trivial JavaScript statement!
[18:05] <jonnyb> sometimes it's the trivial looking ones that are most evil
[18:05] <luci|abroad> jonnyb: lol, great :)
[18:06] <luci|abroad> jonnyb: hopefully we can make remix soon ;)
[18:07] <chealer> jonnyb: with your code, it works, but only because the onclick is truncated before the return false and it follows the href to tiki-adminusers.php, but it doesn't actually submit the form
[18:07] <jonnyb> i found the one i did with the artists and the car, but it's way too long - needs more mixing :)
[18:07] <jonnyb> ah, ok chealer - i'll recheck (properly)
[18:08] <luci|abroad> artists and the car ? where ?
[18:08] <luci|abroad> ah, @home u mean
[18:08] <jonnyb> not uploaded anywhere yet - i was rambling about it after the ovc remixing thing
[18:08] <jonnyb> yup
[18:09] <chealer> jonnyb: presumably some quoting problem
[18:09] <luci|abroad> yep yep
[18:09] <chealer> oh, right: _onclick="$("form[name=confirm]")[0].submit();return false;"
[18:09] <chealer> double quotes used for 2 things
[18:10] <jonnyb> oops
[18:10] <jonnyb> told you, disrupted sleep patterns :)
[18:10] <jonnyb> i'm reverting for a moment - maybe it's something else
[18:11] <chealer> luci|abroad: thank you, I'm impatient to see them :-)
[18:11] <chealer> jonnyb: hehe
[18:12] <luci|abroad> :)
[18:14] <jonnyb> hmm, there's something wrong with that form - it doesn't really have the name "confirm" (or any name)
[18:14] <chealer> jonnyb: huum. switching the jquery quoting to single quotes doesn't seem to work neither, although the JS seems fine
[18:14] <chealer> jonnyb: right...
[18:15] <jonnyb> in fact the 'name' is the first hidden field (user)
[18:15] <chealer> at this point, I would appreciate if somebody else could try to get the confirmation form somewhat validating
[18:16] <chealer> or explain why the validator is so unhappy
[18:16] <jonnyb> aha - the first hidden field's name is... "name"!
[18:16] <jonnyb> is that legal?
[18:16] <chealer> jonnyb: hum, I don't really see why it wouldn't
[18:17] <jonnyb> it seems to confuse firebug
[18:17] <jonnyb> if the form has a field called "name" as well as an attribute
[18:18] <chealer> jonnyb: I don't get the artists and the car
[18:19] <jonnyb> it's a silly video i started editing a while ago - never finished it
[18:19] <chealer> jonnyb: I think it's something bigger. most pages here have under 10 similar HTML errors, not 100
[18:19] <jonnyb> and at OVC is was wondering what a "video remix" was
[18:19] <jonnyb> is/i
[18:19] <chealer> OK
[18:20] <jonnyb> seems like i'd been making them for ages! :)
[18:20] <jonnyb> we used to call them "scratch videos"
[18:20] <jonnyb> i'm so behind with the times...
[18:21] <jonnyb> anyway, adminusers - i'm going to have a go at changing the name=name thing
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[18:30] <chealer> I tried another confirm screen in 5.3 - it has a single HTML validation error
[18:31] <jonnyb> ok - think i'd cracked it
[18:31] <jonnyb> it also had a field called "submit", which was overriding the confirm form't property (no strong typing... the dangers)
[18:32] <jonnyb> there might be lots more...
[18:32] <jonnyb> i'll commit this and start searching
[18:34] <chealer> the admin users edit form had 13 errors
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[18:36] <jonnyb> let's hope it helps
[18:36] <jonnyb> at least the js works now
[18:39] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29918 10/branches/6.x/ (templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-adminusers.php): 
[18:39] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: [FIX] adminusers: Can't use element attribute names as names for form fields (like 'name' or 'submit') when using check_authenticity confirmation.
[18:39] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: Also return to tab 1 after saving.
[18:40] <jonnyb> ok chealer - can you see if that helps?
[18:41] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29919 10/branches/6.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] tabs: tabstoggle was breaking tab layout. Removed padding and margin from contents.
[18:41] <daniam> can any one see the option at tv.tiki.org where we can use the embed script to place a video clip on a tiki page?    -   On the kaltura.com side, there use to be a menu where I could pick-up the code.  Can you try on your side to verify if you see the Chealer video clip at: http://kaltura.evocatio.com/p/102/sp/10200/raw/entry_id/0_jvebrere/version/0/0_jvebrere.mp4?relocate=f.mp4
[18:42] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29920 10/branches/6.x/styles/jqui/options/element.css: [CSS] jqui.element: Coloured links in centre section
[18:43] <jonnyb> yup, i see it - chealer looking good there daniam 
[18:44] <jonnyb> daniam: go to the list of entries
[18:44] <jonnyb> then rollover the blue (i) info icon
[18:44] <jonnyb> "Wiki plugin code" at the bottom
[18:46] <daniam> jonnyb: no I don't see the Wiki plugin code.  Chealer, can you see "Wiki plugin code"?
[18:46] <jonnyb> or go to change details - it's at the bottom of that
[18:48] <jonnyb> or the normal "view" page - it's in the middle there for some reason...
[18:48] <chealer> jonnyb: wah, that worked
[18:48] <jonnyb> http://tv.tiki.org/tiki-kaltura_video.php?mediaId=0_jvebrere
[18:48] <jonnyb> yay chealer 
[18:48] <jonnyb> now we have to find all the other forms in tiki that use stupid field names :)
[18:49] <jonnyb> well, only the ones that use check_auth
[18:51] <chealer> daniam: yes, I see it
[18:52] <chealer> is that really plugin syntax BTW?
[18:52] <jonnyb> yup - the new (4.x?) version
[18:53] <chealer> OK
[18:53] <jonnyb> hmmm, i get 157 hits for \$_(:?REQUEST|POST)\[['"]name['"]\] in php files - dull...
[18:54] <chealer> jonnyb: or understanding what's wrong there. I still get many validation errors
[18:54] <chealer> editing a user seems broken in 5.x
[18:54] <jonnyb> really - cos 157 is too many to change (and as you say it shouldn't really be necessary)
[18:55] <chealer> so it would be ideal to have a minimal backport
[18:55] <jonnyb> are there validation errors on the confirm form?
[18:55] <jonnyb> indeed
[18:56] <daniam> No, this is not what I'm looking for.  I'm looking for the embed code.  If I'm using the kaltura.com account, the path would be: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/kmc/kmc3#content|Manage
[18:56] <chealer> jonnyb: many, but as I said, it's totally weird. I get 37 on 6.x, over 100 if I save the page and manually make it validate, in which case the errors are completely strange
[18:57] <jonnyb> just trying v.w3.o
[18:57] <chealer> jonnyb: if I do the validation via Firefox or Opera, it seems to be validating code which is not actually on the page
[18:57] <chealer> (Firefox: Web Developer)
[18:57] * jonnyb notices it's 8pm here... feels like tea time
[18:58] <jonnyb> not tried that pluggin
[18:58] <chealer> jonnyb: I use it mainly for HTML validation and cookie visualization
[18:58] <jonnyb> no firecookie? (it's good)
[18:58] <chealer> jonnyb: it does much more, but the rest is largely superceded by Firebug
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[18:59] <jonnyb> validator is about the only thing missing from firebug these days
[18:59] * jonnyb makes tea anyway
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[19:00] <Deuns> hello
[19:00] <chealer> hi lindon_
[19:00] <lindon_> hey chealer
[19:00] <Deuns> Is there any way to import iCal to tikicalendar ?
[19:00] <lindon_> a bit lonely here now :)
[19:02] <jonnyb> hey lindon_ thanks for the smashing tikifest!
[19:03] <lindon_> my pleasure!
[19:03] <chealer> :-)
[19:04] <jonnyb> using my mousemat now (just around 120th and 7th at the moment ;) )
[19:05] <chealer> lindon_: I was just telling jonnyb I wish I was still with him to squash this CSRF confirmation bug. instead I'm getting mad
[19:05] <chealer> haha jonnyb
[19:05] <jonnyb> chealer: why don't you fix you mic and we can do bbb?
[19:05] <lindon_> I know what you mean, still have a few questions I forgot to ask jonny
[19:06] <chealer> jonnyb: sorry but I spent enough time trying to get the mic to work again, I was thinking I'd retry next reinstall
[19:06] <lindon_> jonnyb: guess you made the train?
[19:07] <jonnyb> chealer: ok, just seems like a necessity this century ;)
[19:07] <jonnyb> lindon_: yup - 3 minutes to spare!
[19:07] <jonnyb> Deuns: looks like calendar can only import csv at the moment - maybe there's a converter?
[19:07] <chealer> I agree, it's a shame
[19:08] <chealer> I'm going to take a break, bbl
[19:08] <jonnyb> ok bibi
[19:08] <Deuns> jonnyb, ok, I'll look in that direction then, thank you :)
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[19:09] <rahul> how to use banner in wili tiki
[19:11] <rahul> !help
[19:11] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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[19:11] <jonnyb> rahul - don't use them myself but have you tried http://doc.tiki.org/Banners ?
[19:12] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r29921 10/branches/5.x/db/ (tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql tiki-secdb_5.2_mysql.sql): delete useless files
[19:13] <rahul> yes but got no usefull results
[19:15] <jonnyb> how about trying rick's site - try search for "tiki for smarties"
[19:15] <jonnyb> http://twbasics.keycontent.org
[19:17] * ttrimm *loves* tiki for smarties* !
[19:17] <ttrimm> even though I obviously have trouble keeping focused!
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[19:24] <luci|abroad> hey, some of the pics from tikifest already up: http://picasaweb.google.com/mindbro/TikiFestNewYork2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCLq2qYupvZvFQA#
[19:27] * jonnyb sits back and enjoys the show
[19:29] <lindon_> great pictures - thanks luci!
[19:29] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: QUestion on Menu behaviour - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38940
[19:30] <jonnyb> indeed - nice one, thanks luciash 
[19:34] <ttrimm> wow. I think I would get vertigo in NYC!
[19:36] <luci|abroad> thank you :)
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[19:38] <luci|abroad> ttrimm: hehe :)
[19:38] <ttrimm> I am originally from Kansas...NOTHING there is that size!
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[19:40] <jonnyb> ttrimm: i was born and brought up in London, and even so sometimes NYC takes you breath away
[19:41] <ttrimm> Looking at that photoblog page, it is amazing to me how many photographers go with the default profile icon!!
[19:41] <ttrimm> http://www.photoblogs.com/?adly_id=403841899
[19:41] <lindon_> ttrimm: you should join us next time ;)
[19:41] <ttrimm> at the tikifest??
[19:41] <lindon_> yes
[19:42] <ttrimm> I would love to...finances suck at this point
[19:42] * jonnyb resists the link, recalling what ttrimm said about staying focussed
[19:42] <ttrimm> I couldn't even go to RCC this year
[19:42] <ttrimm> it is a photoblog link that marc sent out in FB
[19:42] <ttrimm> but there are like 16 or 20 profile pics but most of those are just a head silhouette...
[19:43] <ttrimm> I NEVER stick with those myself.
[19:43] <ttrimm> one of the first things I change
[19:43] <ttrimm> Hope to go to RCC next year in Boston
[19:44] <ttrimm> SHOULD be able to.
[19:44] <jonnyb> what's RCC?
[19:44] <ttrimm> Recent Changes Camp...I will find a link
[19:44] <lindon_> meanwhile, there's always BigBlueButton ;)
[19:44] <jonnyb> oh right, yes - heard of it
[19:44] <jonnyb> lindon_: i'm there...
[19:45] <ttrimm> this year it was in Canada. don't have a passport and no money for tickets
[19:47] <lindon_> jonnyb: me too now
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[21:40] <luci|abroad> good night and enjoy: http://tv.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=HD+Video+Media+Entry+Example
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[21:41] <luci|abroad|asle> eeep :-p
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[21:42] <jonnyb> nn
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[21:42] <jonnyb> goody - a bed time movie! :) thx
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[22:07] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29922 10/branches/6.x/templates/confirm.tpl: [FIX] confirm: xhtml validation - inputs can't be at the root of a form and forms don't have names anymore
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[22:41] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29923 10/branches/6.x/tiki-edit_perspective.php: [FIX] edit perspectives: Use cookietab
[22:46] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29924 10/branches/6.x/tiki-adminusers.php: [FIX] adminusers: Get user list after modifying, instead of before
[23:00] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29925 10/branches/6.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] prefs: Add some keywords and hints, and homogenise some labels with colons.
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