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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r30002 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Changes for sheet to support pagination in history. Still needs a bit of debug, but links are there.	[01:05]
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chris345	Hi there! We're interested in using TikiWiki, but we have a couple of questions The most pressing one is, can we set who accesses and modifies particular articles? for instance, we might want to have an internal memo stored in tikiwiki without the public able to see it	[06:54]
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coaboa	good morning	[07:24]
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xavi	polom	[09:12]
JoernOtt	ola xavi	[09:13]
xavi	JoernOtt: I saw your comments yesterday... hi JoernOtt .. comments/questions about making a VM Ware applicance with Tiki, etc.	[09:13]
JoernOtt	yes	[09:13]
xavi	I had the same interested years ago, and moved to making an .iso which can be used as VM Ware thing, and Virtual Box, and/or others as well as being usable as LiveCD	[09:13]
JoernOtt	but what happens with the data/configuration stuff?	[09:14]
xavi	and convertible (easily) in LiveUSB for that, LiveUSB should be the way to go, imho even if that TikiLiveCD, built from Slax (in purpose, after searching and trying with MANY distros), you can use some net disk drive offered by Slax author afaik I haven't used that net drive, but it's there on the desktop	[09:14]
JoernOtt	well, I don't know slax very well (never heard of it befdore the tiki cd)	[09:15]
xavi	for my needs, I used to have TikiLiveUSB for people attending some course I taught on Tiki administration years ago SLax is a slackware modified distro to keep it small, with KDE 3.x, easily i18n and l10n	[09:16]
JoernOtt	Most of the target audience has vmware player, but getting an USB stick working or even booting from USB in VMWare is a PITA	[09:17]
xavi	^much easier to have in other langs differnt than english, than with DSL, DSL-N, or other small distros (Puppy Linux is getting closer) for VM Ware, you could use the ISO file	[09:17]
JoernOtt	At my old school we have a minimal gentoo with xfce4 working on a broad range of hardware the question with the VMWare stuff is where will the data be saved	[09:18]
xavi	:-) xfce: most common distros with xfce (like xubuntu or similar) are heavier than Slax with KDE 3.x, imho and I've tried a few in old ocmputers and very old ocmputers safest option, probabaly: in some net disk (dropbox, the one provided by SLax, or others)	[09:18]
JoernOtt	well, most computers at school qualify as very old ;-) and we got rid of SuSE/KDE because of the length of the boot process	[09:19]
xavi	:-) give our TikiLiveCD a go :-)	[09:20]
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chibaguy	polom	[09:20]
JoernOtt	I will, however I don't like NetDisks	[09:20]
xavi	currently based on Slax 0.6.x, but previous LiveCD's, were based on Slax 0.5.x, and I tried those on very old computers, and were impressive hi chibaguy	[09:20]
JoernOtt	Apart from having difficulties with slow internet connections and firewalls, I don't like storing data out of my control	[09:21]
xavi	that Slax distro, also has the option (in theory) to save changes in a file on disk, or on a usb key	[09:21]
JoernOtt	that sounds very good This weekend I will most definitely try it out	[09:21]
xavi	that save changes on file: was buggy after the second session, afaik. (with Slax 0.5). With Slax 0.6.x I haven't tried ok you know: http://tiki.org/TikiLiveCD	[09:22]
JoernOtt	hehe	[09:22]
xavi	the last version has very little documentation	[09:22]
JoernOtt	OFC	[09:22]
xavi	sorry for that	[09:22]
JoernOtt	well, maybe I'll add something to the doc then in the time saved for setting up a VM	[09:23]
xavi	but you can have a look at similar documentation (for the TikiLiveCD 0.5.x version) ok, nice :-)	[09:23]
chibaguy	hi xavi	[09:24]
xavi	xavi back to using trackers for work at uni	[09:24]
JoernOtt	JoernOtt back to testing the postgres cluster	[09:25]
xavi	btw, if anybody is successful migrating a jq carousel frmo 5.x to 6.x, please tell me what did you do besides the magic in thems.t.o, that it seems to work with no change (magic, since the syntax is still using $jq(...), etc) and I was not that lucky in one test I did on another server xavi missing some jquery masters in this channel xavi missing them also for "trackers & jquery" magic	[09:25]
JoernOtt	I am only a black magician, good at destroying things :-) and still learning jquery	[09:29]
coaboa	hi jörn and xavi hi chibaguy	[09:32]
xavi	JoernOtt: :-). hi coaboa	[09:32]
JoernOtt	moin Carsten me still waits for 30 tables à 100k lines in the test cluster I hate the test scenarios I designed myself	[09:32]
coaboa	:-) you know why!	[09:36]
luci	re :)	[09:48]
JoernOtt	wb	[09:51]
luci	thanks, hi everybody	[09:51]
coaboa	hi luci	[09:56]
chibaguy	hi coaboa and everybody	[09:56]
luci	chibaguy and Jyhem : hi gary (and jean-marc), could you please do these experiments with fixedwidth in layout/fixed_width.css or layout/layout.css instead of lite/lite.css next time ? thank you :-/	[10:08]
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fabricius	Polom! how r u everybody?	[10:14]
coaboa	hi fabricius	[10:15]
fabricius	my good morning question: let´s say I have two tiki-installations I have a tracker in one installation and want to show that tracker in the other installation is that possible? if yes: how and where I find the appropriate doc, respectively what is the name of the appropriate function/plugin?	[10:17]
chibaguy	luci, sorry about that. I guess it seemed natural to make the change in lite.css rather than add code to another file to override it. Everyone thinks of lite.css being just one file in Tiki rather than having a standalone existence, probably.	[10:17]
luci	chibaguy: now (besides your commit) i notice also nylothßs r29844 and the discussion about the change... i am not sure it was good idea to change lite.css fundamentally in the freeze mode, so i would rather see it as overrides in layout.css, than modifications to lite.css	[10:23]
chibaguy	The timing was due to some problems apparently due to body {display:table} so it was considered a fix, and so ok during the freeze, as I understand it.	[10:27]
luci	i am not able to react to the thread now... no SMTP for my sfATground account here in swiss yep, i still read the messages, sorry i did not notice it earlier as on travels	[10:27]
chibaguy	yes, it's hard to keep up when traveling, etc.	[10:28]
luci	i wonder, if the regression bug with layout on doc.t.o and tv.t.o is related to this	[10:29]
chibaguy	Which doc.t.o bug do you mean? I'm aware of the background image being missing, for one.	[10:30]
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luci	chibaguy: it is not missing	[10:31]
xavi	back	[10:31]
luci	chibaguy: it only looks a like	[10:32]
xavi	fabricius: check featured links (feature), or PluginIframe	[10:32]
luci	wb xavi	[10:32]
xavi	fabricius: or PluginSNARF	[10:32]
chibaguy	right, sorry, that's what I meant.	[10:32]
xavi	hi luci	[10:32]
fabricius	xavi: thx a lot, I´ll do that	[10:32]
luci	chibaguy: also notice the "post-it" note	[10:32]
xavi	fabricius: but they are not perfect solutions, since you will probably get the header and side columns from the site2 inside site1	[10:33]
chibaguy	yeah, hard to not notice that. ;-)	[10:33]
luci	chibaguy: it is aligned on the edge of the fixedwidth container instead of the body as on dev.t.o as it should	[10:33]
chibaguy	ah	[10:33]
xavi	unless you use PluginIFRAME in site1, fetching the tiki-index_p.php version of your wiki page where you show your tracker data, etc.	[10:33]
luci	chibaguy: so it is not only "the header background image is missing"	[10:33]
fabricius	xavi: I want exactly to prevent this! -> just include the textarea of the other Tiki site	[10:34]
xavi	fabricius: notice that I wrote tiki-index_p.php and not tiki-index.php	[10:34]
fabricius	xavi: noticed, thx	[10:34]
xavi	fabricius: and good luck (you can always hire some coder to improve what you get) bbl	[10:34]
luci	chibaguy: i have added the issue to http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki6#Regression_bugs	[10:35]
JoernOtt	fabricius: with snarf, you can use some regex	[10:36]
fabricius	xavi: I know, but privately I have no money at all by now and in our organisation we work all voluntarily => I will brake it down in the next weeks and if there still are some issues left, I hope my organisation will have some amount of money left, to support a coder for the certain issues JoernOtt: sorry for silly question, but what is regex? heard this word before, but have no clus ;-)	[10:37]
JoernOtt	if you have control over both sides, you can sneak in some invisible markers (like comments or a group of  )	[10:38]
fabricius	I indeed have control over both sites	[10:38]
JoernOtt	Regular Expressions are a very powerful (but also complex) way of filtering/replacing rules	[10:38]
fabricius	ok and with those regexes it would be possible, to include certain content, like trackers from one site to thze other?	[10:38]
JoernOtt	for a start, look at http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSnarf&structure=Documentation also use http://de2.php.net/manual/de/function.preg-replace.php	[10:39]
fabricius	ok	[10:40]
JoernOtt	and for learning regex: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ JoernOtt is still at the very beginning of his journey through the jungle of regex	[10:40]
fabricius	fabricius is just at the beginning of experiencing the Tiki Way of Live	[10:41]
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ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:00]
luci	heya rick	[11:01]
chibaguy	hey, doc.t.o seems ok now (bg image). hi ricks99 tv.tiki.org still not getting bg image tho.	[11:01]
ricks99	hi luci (new handle?) & chibaguy	[11:02]
luci	chibaguy: doc.t.o seems to be cutoff on sides still for me	[11:04]
coaboa	hi ricks99	[11:04]
chibaguy	luci: really? Oh, I just refreshed and now it's cut off again. weird.	[11:04]
luci	ricks99: abroad again	[11:05]
chibaguy	It was ok when I first viewed it.	[11:05]
luci	chibaguy: heh, weird	[11:05]
ricks99	hiya coaboa	[11:05]
luci	chibaguy: reloaded 5 times now, still the same logged off there, btw	[11:05]
chibaguy	yes, usually it's bad for me. I was really surprised to see it with the bg image.	[11:06]
luci	devilish things	[11:07]
chibaguy	branch 6 is ok for me, regarding fixed-width and fivealive. It seems the setup at doc.t.o is wrong somehow. oops. spoke too soon. I just changed fivealive theme options and none of them show the page background image. : - 0 But they did on first page load, on the first view of no theme option.	[11:09]
xavi	back just finished reading the thread about "Tiki and WebDAV" in t.o forums.... Phew! lots of activity there!	[11:16]
ricks99	& just sent email to dev list re task-based docs	[11:17]
xavi	thanks for your contributions to that thread, chibaguy, Joern\|f00d, etc	[11:17]
	mmmm, http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x doesn't exist anymore !!!? only demo.t.o/6.x it seems	[11:26]
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chibaguy	ah, I just remembered why fivealive's bg images are cut off. it's a fixed-width special case. I don't know why it broke exactly, but it needed an !important to fix it.	[11:43]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30004 10/branches/6.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] Page background images weren't going full-width (in this theme, div#fixedwidth is full-width to allow wide header and footer background images; divs #header-top, #tiki-top .wrapper, and #middle have width: 990px).	[11:45]
chibaguy	I guess this means you can't currentlly have a really full-width fivealive layout, unless overrides are written for the site. ah, actually there's a way: body.fixed_width #header-top {width: 990px}, etc. if we want this theme to behave just like the others.	[11:47]
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luci	chibaguy: hmm, you mean it is good or bad ?	[11:51]
chibaguy	I mean fivealive was designed to be fixed width, so no option was figured out to let the contents go full width, originally, but this could be added easily. a few changes in fivealive.css. about the problem we see at doc.tw.o, I don't know why things changed. I fixed it by adding !important to #fixedwidth {width: 100%}.	[11:54]
luci	eek, didn't we try avoid !important when not needed for browser specific hacks ? :) i have seen several importants by Jyhem too, i do not get exactly yet why they are needed but i will hopefully understand it soon	[12:03]
sylvieg	+10000 to avoid !important	[12:06]
chibaguy	I need to check the css changes regarding fixedwidth, but it seems an !important is needed to override some recent change.	[12:07]
sylvieg	yeh it is the problem when you begin to put one ... you need to put more...	[12:07]
chibaguy	Now I see that fixed_width.css has #fixedwidth {width: 990px !important}. I don't see why that is necessary. I'll do a little testing.	[12:10]
luci	thank you ! i am tempted to move the fixedwidth part from lite.css to fixed_width.css	[12:12]
ricks99	@luci: u don't like html emails: ;-)	[12:15]
luci	ricks99: i like them when done properly ;)	[12:16]
ricks99	lol. looks fine in my ms-exchange :-) fwiw, i thought tha all mail sent to the dev list was converted to plain text. didnt realize that the mail list actually could send as html	[12:16]
chibaguy	Hmm, fixed_width.css's 990px width won't dominate over lite.css's 100% width unless !important is added, in Opera. I wonder why. luci, did you give lite.css some special superpowers? ;-) then again, why does lite.css need to specify #fixed_width?	[12:17]
luci	depends when is fixed_width.css loaded (before or after ?) and if in lite.css is any !important for it (?) that is my question... you or nyloth added it ? seems nyloth, right ?	[12:18]
chibaguy	chibaguy looks for a place to hide....	[12:19]
luci	hahahah :D i don't have the revision commit mail open right now luckily ;)	[12:19]
chibaguy	actually the main thing about that change was to put the display:tably property on #fixed_width instead of body.	[12:21]
luci	ok, makes sense	[12:21]
chibaguy	but it wasn't necessary to also specify the width there, I think.	[12:22]
luci	bud #fixedwidth is Tiki themes layout specific, right ?	[12:22]
chibaguy	Yes.	[12:22]
luci	s/bud/butú *but goddamnit :D	[12:22]
chibaguy	heh, fingers too slow for brain.	[12:22]
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chibaguy	as long as I've got the files open, I'll move the fixedwidth stuff from lite to layout.	[12:23]
Joern\|f00d	7NICK jOERNoTT	[12:24]
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JoernOtt	grrr @capslock	[12:24]
luci	chibaguy: my suggestion is 1) i will add u as developer on the lite CSS project and we fix (backport) there or* 2) we rollback and keep lite.css "lite" and override all Tiki specific necessities (including display: block for body) in layout.css chibaguy: ok, +1 for your suggestion above	[12:26]
ricks99	Q: there's no collision avoidance for 2 usres editing an article, like we have for wiki pages?	[12:28]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r30005 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Changed the name of the history template, it was causing xajax to fail.	[12:28]
luci	chibaguy: will you move the display: block for body to layout.css too ?	[12:28]
ricks99	is it simply last to save, wins?	[12:28]
luci	ricks99: probably so ricks99: articles still need whole lotta love	[12:28]
ricks99	and i gess same with trackers, forum posts, everything	[12:29]
luci	yep, it is only for wiki asfaik	[12:29]
coaboa	:-)	[12:29]
ricks99	tx	[12:29]
fabricius	rehi	[12:30]
chibaguy	luci, probably lite.css shouldn't have Tiki-specific rules, thinking about these recent changes. Longer-term, I think it would be good to either fork it or move the rules in lite.css into layout.css and have one fewer stylesheet.	[12:31]
fabricius	I want to redirect the HomePage on www.workspace.vafk.org to perspective one respectively to the Home of perspective 1, but I do not get there {REDIRECT(url=http://workspace.vafk.org/tiki-switch_perspective.php?perspective=1) /} does not work any idea?	[12:31]
chibaguy	having the font and heading sizes in lite.css has always bothered me a bit, thinking about lite.css as a Tiki file alongside the other css files.	[12:32]
luci	chibaguy: probably yes... lite.css didn't need any changes for years, so probably it is not worth of it to keep it as external lib... i still wonder lite.css is so future proof without touching it for such many years amazing to myself	[12:33]
sylvieg	fabricius: try with "" around the url param (you have a = in the param vaclue)	[12:34]
luci	s/such/so/	[12:35]
fabricius	{REDIRECT("url"=...) ... or {REDIRECT(url="...") ... ?	[12:35]
sylvieg	url="..."	[12:35]
fabricius	thx	[12:35]
chibaguy	luci: that's true. My tests with moving rules to other files so far isn't getting good results but I'll keep trying. ah, ok, i forgot that display:table causes a div to shrinkwrap to its content size.	[12:35]
fabricius	sylvieg: argggl got the fault: I forgot to specify the HomePage for Perspective One different to default => so the redirect did work, but did point to itself	[12:39]
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luci	chibaguy: btw, i noticed in green blog theme that if you put the css menu on the right column, the expanded submenu gets cutt-off (maybe overflow hidden issue ?) too	[12:54]
chibaguy	luci, do you mean it goes off the right margin?	[12:55]
luci	it goes hidden "behind" the right column edge	[12:55]
chibaguy	That's true for all themes, afaik.	[12:57]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30006 10/branches/6.x/styles/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Alternative method to implement fixed-width without !important on widths, and moving rules so lite.css doesn't have Tiki-specific code. Please test again for Javascript and textarea errors.	[12:58]
chibaguy	suckerfish/superfish doesn't know about right margin.	[12:58]
luci	chibaguy: sorry, i mean when you have fixedwidth, not the right margin of browser viewport chibaguy: thanks for the commit :)	[12:59]
chibaguy	sure, I hope it works ok. ah, I didn't try a cssmenu in the right column in fixedwidth, I think. Some div must have overflow:hidden. seems to be the same in all themes (i tried about 5)	[12:59]
luci	aye	[13:03]
chibaguy	#col2 has overflow:visible explicitly set. maybe #col3 needs that.	[13:06]
luci	or maybe just the module	[13:06]
chibaguy	it's the column. I just tried.	[13:07]
luci	??? ok	[13:07]
chibaguy	#col3 { overflow: visible;} apparently set per-theme. (for #col2) maybe should be in cssmenus.css	[13:08]
JoernOtt	ricks99: I just noted that you fixed some stuff in the page_contribution form. You put the label around the input and the description text. Is that preferred over <label></label><input /> or <input /><label></label>?	[13:25]
ricks99	self labled fields are fully acceptable and compliant. plus less code.	[13:26]
JoernOtt	I know that it is compliant, I am just trying to learn/improve my style, thats why I ask if <label><input /></label> is preferred over <label></label><input /> and with less code, you mean leaving out the "for" tag	[13:28]
ricks99	6 of one, half-dozen of the either. purely style preferece.	[13:28]
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ricks99	it makes for less code to maintain. however, the html is less readable/documented without explicity using the id for each field	[13:29]
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ricks99	also, you cant self label form fields that are split among table columns	[13:30]
JoernOtt	thx btw, I am looking forward reading "Essentials" online and as a book	[13:33]
ricks99	tx. hopefully "in the stores for christmas" :-)	[13:34]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30007 10/mods/trunk/themes/smooth_tiki_5/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Smooth theme for Tiki 5	[13:35]
chibaguy	Recently I wanted to style a label with but the situation was complicated by input being contained in it, so this would be one reason to not nest them. But maybe only in such a specific case.	[13:37]
ricks99	true. for syle-specific issues, you would not want to nest them	[13:38]
JoernOtt	see, now I learned something new today and the day is not completely wasted un the frustrating cluster-testing :-)	[13:39]
chibaguy	:-)	[13:39]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30008 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30009 10/branches/proposals/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30010 10/branches/proposals/3.x/db/tiki-secdb_3.2_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file	[13:45]
luci	chibaguy: you could do label {color: red} label input {color: black}	[13:48]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30011 10/branches/6.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Correction of where display:table is placed (from body to #fixedwidth). Please test for Javascript and textarea errors.	[13:48]
luci	chibaguy: or what was the difficulty ?	[13:48]
chibaguy	luci, do you mean the errors?	[13:50]
luci	i mean the difficulty to style nested input in label	[13:52]
chibaguy	oh, I wanted to make the label text not display, iirc.	[13:54]
JoernOtt	hehe, making the input invisible as well then	[13:55]
chibaguy	yes	[13:57]
luci	aaah, yep, that is difficult then :) impossible i would say unless u had <label><span>My Label</span><input ... /></label>	[14:00]
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ricks99	i agree, not perfect,but its a nice shorcut i use all the time	[14:03]
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luci	yep, i like the "shortcut" too :)	[14:18]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30012 10/trunk/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_listpages.php): [NEW]LISTPAGES: possibility to select pages in a AND of categories or a OR of categories	[14:43]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30013 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl tiki-edit_languages.php): tikiwiki: [ENH] use find.tpl template for searches on tiki-edit_languages.php tikiwiki: [ENH] use can set number of translations to show on tiki-edit_languages.php	[15:24]
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luci	beta 1 is out but my alpha Tiki 6 still says latest newest is alpha	[15:43]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r30014 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_include_features.tpl: [FIX] Small layout fix for consistency.	[16:15]
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jonnyb	polom all	[18:44]
ricks99	hiya jonnyb	[18:44]
jonnyb	anyone about who knows about translation (and structures again)? ah, just the man! :) jonnyb expects ricks99 to dive for cover	[18:44]
ricks99	ZZZZzzzzz.....	[18:45]
jonnyb	the bug Marc's got me on is why the translate dropdown doesn't work for structures like it does for pages	[18:45]
ricks99	5 or 6 ?	[18:46]
jonnyb	6 but i think it's the same issue since 3.x apparently	[18:46]
ricks99	works perfectly in 5.	[18:46]
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jonnyb	even without the switch lang module on it seems broken here	[18:47]
ricks99	let me check my dataset on 6. one sec...	[18:47]
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jonnyb	and here http://demo.tiki.org/6x/Wiki+engine	[18:48]
ricks99	definately working on smarties (with no swithc-lang module)	[18:49]
jonnyb	hmm, sounds like a regression then...	[18:50]
ricks99	whats the issue ur seeing? seems ok with my smarties 6 test site	[18:50]
jonnyb	it sticks on english (there is a spanish version there)	[18:51]
ricks99	need to remove the swith lang module	[18:51]
jonnyb	done selecting espanol sends you to no_bl=y&page=motor+de+wiki but it actually shows you the english page again	[18:52]
ricks99	hm.. .can u pm me an admin login	[18:53]
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jonnyb	hi changi	[18:54]
ricks99	@jonnyb: u dont have a base lang assigned to the default (eng) page yet	[18:55]
jonnyb	the schedule was saying we should have done beta 2 a couple of days ago - i changed it for tomorrow (but there are a few bad things i should fix before we do b2)	[18:55]
ricks99	nvr mind	[18:55]
jonnyb	ah (i didn't set it up - will recheck)	[18:55]
ricks99	duh	[18:55]
changi	jonnyb: i can do it tomorrow	[18:56]
jonnyb	seems to be en (and there's fr and es) changi: i'll try and fix these nasties but might not get them all done for tomorrow so it might have to slip a little more	[18:56]
changi	jonnyb: no prob, someone else can do it it's not so difficult :)	[18:57]
ricks99	what is Language inclusion threshold:	[18:57]
jonnyb	ricks99: no idea - where?	[18:57]
ricks99	admin i18n	[18:57]
jonnyb	hmmm... 7 it's all Greek to me :)	[18:59]
ricks99	Huh? thought it was supposed to be spanish? lol	[19:00]
changi	nice	[19:00]
ricks99	ok. def. broken in 6. just verified it on my site but 5 works fine	[19:01]
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ricks99	hm.. i take that back	[19:02]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30016 10/trunk/ (lib/language/Language.php templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl): [ENH] display the author of a translation on tiki-edit_languages.php	[19:02]
ricks99	now workinging on my tiki6	[19:02]
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jonnyb	ricks99: i have some code fixes locally that seems to be partially working, it's odd as it really looks like it never worked fully	[19:04]
ricks99	dont know.... smarties is tiki5 and i can switch tanslations no issue. i have upgraded to tiki6 for testing and it doesnt always switch :(	[19:05]
jonnyb	hmmm, i'll check the 5.x code	[19:06]
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ricks99	maybe caching something somewhere?	[19:07]
jonnyb	it looks to me like there's no way it can find the translated structure if it's not the user's "main" language (like no_bl=y)	[19:08]
ricks99	its not the structure that is translated -- only pages within the structure	[19:09]
jonnyb	maybe you have your i18n prefs set up differently	[19:09]
ricks99	i can duplicate the issue on tiki6	[19:09]
jonnyb	indeed - but if you give it a french page in the struct it seems not to find the structure duplicate it working?	[19:10]
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ricks99	its failing for me even for pages NOT in a struture	[19:11]
jonnyb	ik it really doesn't look like the code has changed around these bits	[19:11]
ricks99	chk pm	[19:12]
changi	changi going crazy, webdav doesn't work for me does anyone get webdav to work on tiki6 ?	[19:19]
jonnyb	not recently changi tested it on trunk a while back and it was ok	[19:21]
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changi	for me, it does not work since the begining. :( i try on local with cadaver or nautilus and i always get a 401 does the user admin have the right to use webdav ?	[19:22]
jonnyb	should do trying on demo.t.o it asked for log in but now is just spinning... aha! joy :) slow, but mounted the file gals eventually http://demo.tikiwiki.org/6x/tiki-webdav.php seems to work ok although the little png i just uploaded seems to have 0 bytes	[19:31]
changi	do you have a user ? I create one, but it is disabled	[19:35]
jonnyb	admin changi: see pm	[19:36]
changi	connection is ok, put data are unusable, no , ?	[19:44]
jonnyb	same for me i think	[19:44]
changi	do we need to active htaccess to get webdav to work ?	[19:45]
jonnyb	don't think so	[19:45]
changi	ok fresh install of tiki6, just activate webdav on my localhost, and damned, it does not work	[19:46]
jonnyb	i have a server where i've never got it to work, i think it's a bit fragile	[19:47]
changi	php version ? maybe ? i use a 5.3 from my ubuntu	[19:47]
jonnyb	more likely to be something in apache i think the php doesn't do much afaik (there's not much of it anyway)	[19:48]
changi	but the doc does not speak about a specific configuration	[19:51]
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changi	really need to sleep, will have a look tomorrow, i really need it for the CoE	[19:55]
jonnyb	ok - bibi	[19:55]
changi	jonnyb: just send me a pm if you want me to do the beta2	[19:55]
jonnyb	you around at the weekend?	[19:56]
changi	only on sunday afternoon	[19:56]
fabricius	rehi	[19:56]
jonnyb	ok, i'll see how i go tomorrow hi fabricius	[19:56]
fabricius	had my first online workshop tonight	[19:57]
jonnyb	was nice?	[19:57]
fabricius	did show a new user some basics yes I like that years ago I did work in adults education	[19:57]
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fabricius	so I used the tiki-conference room and showed the guy how to set up menus and user modules and such	[19:58]
jonnyb	sounds good	[19:59]
fabricius	if the room is free, I´ll take it aswell to show the people of my organisation how things work really cool with that desktopsharing	[19:59]
jonnyb	the bbb "room" you mean?	[20:00]
fabricius	yes	[20:00]
jonnyb	did the audio work ok for you? seemed broken the other day i tried	[20:00]
fabricius	actually I gave up using audio in the bbb a while ago usually I use skype or telefone-flat no problem with national landline calls	[20:01]
jonnyb	shame - in NY it worked well for a while then went bad eventually (and we reverted to skype)	[20:02]
fabricius	ah btw - in our organisation we use a telefone-conference with international landline numbers maybe we could try that in berlin you can call it even fro skype it is called talkyoo	[20:02]
	yes, same problem than in barcelona had time to follow the Fest, but had to give up finally, cause I didn´t understand a word was hard enough with skype aswell even in new york	[20:15]
jonnyb	it's gradually getting (slowly) better though, i think	[20:18]
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fabricius	should be did you know, that the design is very similar to the adobe conference room?	[20:45]
CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30017 10/branches/6.x/lib/multilingual/multilinguallib.php: [FIX] multilingual: Respect pref feature_detect_language (from browser) when detecting languages. tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30018 10/trunk/lib/diff/difflib.php: cleanup: no need to define is_a() anymore since Tiki requires PHP5+	[20:49]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30020 10/branches/6.x/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [FIX] rankings: Use $multilinguallib->useBestLanguage() instead of outdated request params.	[20:55]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30023 10/branches/6.x/templates/translated-lang.tpl: [FIX] multilingual: Disabled translations menu when showing structures as it doesn't work. Use the switch language module as a work-around pending a proper fix after 6.0 tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30024 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]LISTPAGES: fix AND between categs and perspective	[21:13]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30025 10/trunk/ (lib/language/Language.php templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl): [ENH] tiki-edit_languages.php: show differences between original translation (on language.php) and new translation (on database) tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30026 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [ENH] tiki-edit_languages.php: show differences between original translation (on language.php) and new translation (on database) - (missing file)	[22:15]
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fabricius_	rehi hi sylvieg could you kick my alter ego, or will he disappear after a while automatically?	[22:58]
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fabricius	thx sylvieg	[23:27]
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jonnyb	i give in - more tomorrow	[23:39]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30027 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] log time of the last modification to a string when using interactive translation tikiwiki: [FIX] only show diff option if there is a difference between the original string and the new string	[23:43]
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daniam	hello all	[23:54]

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