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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30402 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/freetags.php: [FIX] Freetags Editor: fix tag removal redirect loop with SEFURLs
 New Forum Posts: How can I edit the default login homepage? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39247
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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30403 10/branches/6.x/tiki-admin_include_login.php: typo
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 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3618 - - 5.3 crash - option "survey a page"  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3618
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3619 - - Editing page option "check orthography" crashes save  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3619
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30404 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_newsletters.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Admin Newsletters: key link to permissions page never showing
tikiwiki: r13086 regression. Thanks Marc Laporte.
tikiwiki: Closes: #2569
hi all & good morning
Hello
how i can display "wiki"-entrys automated on the Homesite?
e.g. Top10 readed or 10 newest entrys
you can use pluginlistpages to gnerate all sorts of those listings
see doc.tiki.org/pluginlistpages
witth that plugin u can also specify to show the eg first 500 character from those pages
yeha thx
coaba thank you very mouch
bye
good afternoon
hi
i am searching for some help regarding the mime types
i get a mime type error when trying to open docx but i added it in the mimetypes of apache and added it to the libs of my local tiki
sorry I have no idea
:( maybe someone else
docx is not the only mime type but it is the most important one
nvm fixed it
what was the problem?
if you look in the DB
open tike_files and add mimetype application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document for already uploaded files
but you still have to add them in the apache mime.types and in the lib of tiki
in mimetypes.php and in mimeextensions.php
tike=tiki btw
hi all :-)
hi ricks
hi JOhn
Hi guys and girls I got a problem if any body could help
what's ur problem
John just started with tiki using tiki for smarties got to poll in module and getting error message missing poll id for plugin poll yesterday it froze and had to reinstall it all again
@imbossok: using 01{poll id=1} ? what tiki version?
Hi ricks99 its 5.3
so, u created a new module, added {poll id=1} to the module, then assigned the module?
yes and get the error message
what error msg?
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" and error missing poll id for plugin poll close the window
what is the xact code u put in the module?
{poll id=1}
polom
try {POLL(pollId="1")}{POLL}
will do brb
{poll pollId=x}
Nahh keeps going pearshaped on me 
oh actually, in modules, it's not actually wiki syntax
{wiki}{poll pollId=x}{/wiki} might do it
will give it a go
@lphuberdeau: not needed if the 'use wiki syntax' option is enabled
{wikiplugin _name=poll pollId=x}{/wikiplugin} is actually a bit more efficient
oh, I didn't know about that option
but that is NOT what the plugin helper adds
I have been trying to kill those user modules for a long time
ever since I learned about their existence while trying to get profiles to set-up a menu as a module, I hated them
ricks99 that code you gave me suddenly worked 
{POLL(pollId="1")}{POLL}
y. working in my 5.3 (did u forget to clear the cache)
hi ppl
thats me Mr forgetfull
but thanks for the help
btw, using polls for rating wiki pages seems broken on doc.t.o
bye all
try to rate e.g. http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-all_languages.php?page=Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery by clicking on the Rating button
it redirects after few seconds automatically to homepage without chance to rate anything
odd
tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r30406 10/branches/6.x/installer/schema/ (2 files): [FIX] Does not need to be installed every time, superseeded by tiki.sql
luciash: nanotek - yeah, I tried a long time ago, possible but tricky indeed - just as the others also said
nanotek left
amette: u worked on the freetags cloud ?
going to http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-browse_freetags.php?tag=admin and trying to sort the cloud (e.g. by Size) doesn't seem to give a damn
luciash: lighttpd
i know
ok *g*
I just realized that you do ;)
I tried the freetag-cloud-search-thingy-interface, hated it and forgot about it.
ok, fair enough
:)
yeah, I know pretty well, what you mean...
... that side of tiki gives me a tough time getting back into the game again. :(
feels like you can't even build a basic website without hitting at least a dozen bugs (which will change with the next upgrade)
if i had days 24*1000 i would certainly fix them all :-p
You find the solution to let the earth rotate slowlier and I join you in the bugfixing mission! :D
bugs, features, same difference
hehehe - heya lphuberdeau :)
yeah, funnily that sentence crossed my mind two minutes ago, when I was typing here, too *g*
amette: Maybe we should really consider some drastic changes for maybe 7.x or 8.x
I guess it comes naturally when you've been around tiki for too long
gosh, and I thought I was making pretty drastic changes, you mean more?
yeah, I'm too wondering about what kind of drastic changes will bring _no_ regressions with them? :)
hehe, things like making a plan to move tiki a bit more towards object-oriented stuff
ouch
and then having for example a few very extensively tested core objects
that discussion is probably as old as tiki
like the one for permissions
the one for rendering a text
well, the search is headed that way now
exactly
but we still have many things like wiki pages/articles/forum posts/blog posts which have very similar core requirements
but differ at least a little bit
JoernOtt: it's the way to fork
it's always a matter of who's going to invest time in it and what the benefits would be
JoernOtt: it's called bitweaver now and i don't hear much about it around anymore
I don't think that "going object" is a good enough objective
yup, sounds like "for the sake of itself"
well, but maybe a more clear structure then
that's all beautiful and I'm the last to object this...
so, what is the difference between a wiki page and an article then?
... just realistically - how many man-hours do you need to rewrite the tens of thousands of lines to do that?
there are a few things you have with the article, you don't have with wiki pages
and how far has mainline tiki evolved in that time?
... f0rk..
or a complete stop of development for a year - misssing two versions
no one ever came up with a more feasible idea of really putting these ideas into practice...
one aspect at a time, and things go forward
.. I think that's the ultimate problem with such a restructuring/-write/-factor
tiki is still miles ahead of where it was a few years back
yeah, that sounds most feasible
that's true, too :)
either I got used to it, or the code is more tolerable than it was
hehe, it definitely improved
lphuberdeau: i think both :)
I still have my old accounting stuf, I hacked for our computer club for tiki 1.9 (I am porting it to 6.x now)
and tiki improved quite a lot 
so, I could reduce large portions of my code
Do you think that storing (extended) HTML in the database instead of wiki syntax would make things easier (like WYSIWYG editors) if we would still have some HTML->WIKI-Syntax->HTML converters?
At the moment, this seems to be one of the things causing a lot of work to the developers to get things done properly
I'm still not convinced there is a good wysiwyg solution out there
Yes, that is why we should keep the plain old simple wiki-Syntax editor as well
But with storing HTML, we might be able to implement different wysiwyg editors or upgrade the one we have more easily
someone already stored html directly in the table
We could even think about interfaces to external editors (like m$ office ...brrrrrr...)
it had a huge ripple effect in the code
yes, this is the problem
and I don't want to loose my non-wysiwyg-Interface, which is quite fast and efficient
JoernOtt: i already had the simmilar idea years ago (to store wiki pages as XHTML/XML) but the guys freaked out and told that it would be impossible to parse back to wiki plugins etc.
Well, I want to keep the plugins
this is what I meant with "extended" HTML
JoernOtt: it would be definitely fast like hell to read the pages directly from db table and parse back to wiki syntax only for editing
Those plugins will always be a PITA for integrating into any WYSIWYG editor
JoernOtt: but you'd need real parser and store history for diffs for both (generated page content VS wiki syntax used to create it)
well, not really, but the parser must be reliably convert wiki syntax to html AND back
JoernOtt: so the editor (either wiki or wysiwyg) would know how to produce the syntax back in time of editing
yes
so, if I choose to use the wiki-syntax editor, it must convert html reliably to that syntax
and back after editing
you're asking for the holy grail
many people tried to get the back and forth conversion working, everyone failed
The worst thing that happens is if people mix html and wiki syntax to get the desired results
the syntax is just not understood enough
well, maybe one could store all that info how the tag was produced in a special attributes for that (XML) tag and just strip them out for normal XHTML output or use XSLT (as sept7 suggested too) - but that would be again slowdown
luciash, don't worry about performance until it works
and besides, a wysiwyg editor would not produce those tags if it only knows HTML
lphuberdeau: it is just another kind of caching solution in fact (storing the pages as XHTML in tables)
cache shouldn't go in the database ;)
i don't know, but for sure parsing whole document wiki syntax just for display it is much more queries and computation than just one query to get the content already parsed
isn't it ?
well, if you parse the {plugin} stuff later, there would still be parsing necessary
problem is that the parsing is user-specific
which part of the "old" wiki-syntax is?
do we have a lib somewhere to do the header stuff to download a file or I need to headr(Content-type); header(authenticate...)
if it's anywhere, that would be headerlib
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30407 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW]tracker: export a tracker structure in the yaml format used in profile
polom from the north (relatively)
anyone seen Rodrigo lately?
hi jonnyb
hi chealer 
I didn't see Rodrigo today but few days ago
jonnyb: we have a bit of jQuery code for dynamic pretty trackers we'd like you to review to document what we did. please tell us when you have some time
seems the mediawiki importer isn't working (for me, anyway)
can have a look at the jq stuff now if you like
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30408 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: Admin Users: display link to user information even if information is private if viewer is site admin.
sorry jonnyb, I realize I'm not able to get to the code at the moment
thanks
how can i display articles after expiry date on wiki page called "articles-archive" ?
ok, chealer - gottagonowtoo
hi/bye luciash 
jonnyb: hello :)
jonnyb: bye :)
bye jonnyb
hey guys
hi John_87 
one question how do i add point to the correct answers?
vor the quizz
for*
point as in link ?
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http://tiki.org/QuizQuestionImport
if i do that how do i also give the points with it or do i need to fill in that manual
oh, you mean the "*" charater ?
*character
yes
you add it manually in the import text
yes i know but i mean the amount of points for the right answer
only one is right and that is indicated by the point
in the example
or you can maybe have more than one right, then just add the asterisk character there too
sorry one sec i think i am not clear enough but i don't know how to say it in english(i am dutch)
if i add questions through the webinterface i can set an amount of point for each question that is right but i don't see this back in the import
ah, like "reward points" ?
yes :D
i don't know, maybe that is not implemented in the import feature
back to my question:
how can i display articles after expiry date on wiki page called "articles-archive" ?
i don't see it in the articles plugin as an obvious param
you can add a module with artickles archive
"artickle archives"
John_87: ah, good tip
John_87: thanks
no problem
found it?
So....
John_87: yeah
John_87: i will try it in page using the MODULE wikiplugin
Custom code entry is part of Site Identity, and I consider luci as the "father" of Site Identity :-)
jQuery in Tiki, I consider Jonnyb as being the "father"....
marclaporte: yeah, and you still call it Site Identity ;)
So now, we have grand children!
hahah
excuse Marc, he's drinking too much Cola
are you guys developers of tiki?
There are bunch of devs here in IRC...
chealer: ROFL
marclaporte: greetigs there
what about the ages of the devs?
I am very excited that wiki syntax is getting more & more powerful and that via Site Identity/look & feel, we can now do amazingly powerful stuff, without changing a single file via FTP
John_87 : that is an interesting question, likely same demographics as most open source projects
got to go
i am also a dev (not for tiki though) and i am using tiki for coordinate the other devs for what we still need and so ( i am 23)
lawl
I guess the age around tiki goes from 20 to 70
nice :|
the youngest in my team is 20 and i am the oldest lol (we are still students) and we are trying to make a mmo click game (with very nice features ofcourse) just to learn to work better with php
and we use tiki to keep track of the documents and communicate about problems
by the way, you can request commit access on Tiki if you ever feel like improving something
cool
I have a fresh install of the latest tikiwiki and when ever I try to click the "Click here to confirm your action" button after making changes to a uyser, it does nothing
I have no issues confirming other actions, only this one.
Trying to find info on this issue online but nothing yet
and that is on every part of the website? or just at editting users
This is just editing a tiki wiki user using admin > users
Only when editing users, when I'm prompted to confirm things elsewhere there is no issue
It even asks me to confirm my navigation to the user edit page, which works
it is only when trying to save changes that the issue arises
yeah i have the some problem one moment
:( i can't find it
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30411 10/branches/6.x/installer/schema/20101028_p_invit_tiki.sql: [FIX]invite: sql error
sorry fifer but i can't help you with this i can't find it eighter
chealer: web app gallery installations upgrades are not offered via the windows live update ?
polom
luciash: windows live update? is that the same as windows update?
hi everyone i am trying to upgrade my tikiwiki version from 3.8 to 5.3 
the database upgrade ran fine but i now get an error when trying to use the tiki
what does the error look like?
i get the following comment on the erro in the actionlog table "select data from sessions where sesskey = 'p46bh1bg5hsdlpeo9vepttulb1' and expiry > ?"
that does not look too nice
the page itself doesn't give me any good info on the error
that is all i have been able to find 
any more details than that visible?
nope
checked the mysql logs and that is the last query run on the page 
give me a sec, havn't updated my 5.x in ages
in the very short term, I would expect disabling database sessions will solve it
how do i do that?
tricky as you can't access the site, I know :)
found the bug
is it a preference in the db?
k
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so what is causing this issue?
error in the code actually
yeah i just found it
luckily, that file was not modified between 5 and 6, so I'll just patch 6 quickly and point you to the file
tikisession-pdo.php it seems
should look like this:
 33         if( $prefs['session_lifetime'] > 0 ) {
 34             $qry = "select data from sessions where sesskey = ? and expiry > ?";
 35             $bindvars[] = $prefs['session_lifetime'];
 36         } else {
 37             $qry = "select data from sessions where sesskey = ?";
 38         }
just missing an argument
cool
thanx
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30413 10/branches/6.x/lib/tikisession-pdo.php: [FIX] Missing an argument causing an SQL error, also affects 5.x
fixed for 6, thanks for reporting
really surprised this one did not show up before
there is also a problem with the confirmation screen after editting a user and i can't find what it is
can't confirm the changes but the other 2 buttons are working well
I don't really fix UI stuff
well i think it is script stuff though :S
try to edit a user password than u see what i mean
via admin console
works for me, at least in 6
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30414 10/trunk/ (95 files in 63 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30341 to 30411
yeah i am running 5.3
John_87: see http://tiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.3#Regressions
chealer: you have mail in the csv list
sylvieg: thanks, I'll deal with that
sylvieg: I would put 'description' => tra('Wiki attachment:') . ' ' . tra('Used as link label
instead of the file name or file description'),
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30415 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_file.php: [FIX]merge: wrong merge - thx chealer
^^ hope it is ok this time
brb
hey
how can i make users clickable in the userlist?
i can only click on admin
hey deau
 New Forum Posts: Uploading files - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39258
John_87: their profile must be public, I think
they are public maybe the site cache one sec ill try
damn ok thnx but it was the cache
maybe an idea to make a module for the pms system
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30416 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-poll_results.tpl tiki-poll_results_bar.tpl): [MOD]poll: split poll result tpl - no modif
sylvieg: thank you, perfect merge
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30417 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_file.php: FILE plugin: improve description of remaining parameters
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30418 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: Installer: add label for checkboxes of failed upgrade patches
chealer: yes, the same
luciash: no, it's the different system. there's not even a concept of upgrade, you just install a new version over the last. they're very far from having Debian-like package management.
s/the/a/
haha, ok :-p
i just hoped, maybe ;)
i will give it a try (5.1 to 5.3)
what does one need to enable (alias(Foo)) feature ?
doc, dev down