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am gone already
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luciash: re
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tikiwiki: r13086 regression. Thanks Marc Laporte.
tikiwiki: Closes: #2569
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coaboa: hi all & good morning
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Hoenir: Hello
how i can display "wiki"-entrys automated on the Homesite?
e.g. Top10 readed or 10 newest entrys
coaboa: you can use pluginlistpages to gnerate all sorts of those listings
see doc.tiki.org/pluginlistpages
witth that plugin u can also specify to show the eg first 500 character from those pages
Hoenir: yeha thx
coaba thank you very mouch
bye
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John___: good afternoon
coaboa: hi
John___: i am searching for some help regarding the mime types
i get a mime type error when trying to open docx but i added it in the mimetypes of apache and added it to the libs of my local tiki
coaboa: sorry I have no idea
John___: :( maybe someone else
docx is not the only mime type but it is the most important one
nvm fixed it
coaboa: what was the problem?
John___: if you look in the DB
open tike_files and add mimetype application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document for already uploaded files
but you still have to add them in the apache mime.types and in the lib of tiki
in mimetypes.php and in mimeextensions.php
tike=tiki btw
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ricks99: hi all :-)
John___: hi ricks
ricks99: hi JOhn
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imbossok: Hi guys and girls I got a problem if any body could help
John___: what's ur problem
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imbossok: John just started with tiki using tiki for smarties got to poll in module and getting error message missing poll id for plugin poll yesterday it froze and had to reinstall it all again
ricks99: @imbossok: using 01{poll id=1} ? what tiki version?
imbossok: Hi ricks99 its 5.3
ricks99: so, u created a new module, added {poll id=1} to the module, then assigned the module?
imbossok: yes and get the error message
ricks99: what error msg?
imbossok: PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" and error missing poll id for plugin poll close the window
ricks99: what is the xact code u put in the module?
imbossok: {poll id=1}
chealer: polom
ricks99: try {POLL(pollId="1")}{POLL}
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imbossok: will do brb
lphuberdeau: {poll pollId=x}
imbossok: Nahh keeps going pearshaped on me
lphuberdeau: oh actually, in modules, it's not actually wiki syntax
{wiki}{poll pollId=x}{/wiki} might do it
imbossok: will give it a go
ricks99: @lphuberdeau: not needed if the 'use wiki syntax' option is enabled
lphuberdeau: {wikiplugin _name=poll pollId=x}{/wikiplugin} is actually a bit more efficient
oh, I didn't know about that option
ricks99: but that is NOT what the plugin helper adds
lphuberdeau: I have been trying to kill those user modules for a long time
ever since I learned about their existence while trying to get profiles to set-up a menu as a module, I hated them
imbossok: ricks99 that code you gave me suddenly worked
{POLL(pollId="1")}{POLL}
ricks99: y. working in my 5.3 (did u forget to clear the cache)
luciash: hi ppl
imbossok: thats me Mr forgetfull
but thanks for the help
luciash: btw, using polls for rating wiki pages seems broken on doc.t.o
imbossok: bye all
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luciash: try to rate e.g. http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-all_languages.php?page=Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery by clicking on the Rating button
it redirects after few seconds automatically to homepage without chance to rate anything
ricks99: odd
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amette: luciash: nanotek - yeah, I tried a long time ago, possible but tricky indeed - just as the others also said
luciash: nanotek left
amette: u worked on the freetags cloud ?
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luciash: going to http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-browse_freetags.php?tag=admin and trying to sort the cloud (e.g. by Size) doesn't seem to give a damn
amette: luciash: lighttpd
luciash: i know
amette: ok *g*
I just realized that you do ;)
I tried the freetag-cloud-search-thingy-interface, hated it and forgot about it.
luciash: ok, fair enough
amette: :)
-: luciash is getting frustrated Tiki has 1000 features integrated but none is 100% bug free :-/
amette: yeah, I know pretty well, what you mean...
... that side of tiki gives me a tough time getting back into the game again. :(
feels like you can't even build a basic website without hitting at least a dozen bugs (which will change with the next upgrade)
luciash: if i had days 24*1000 i would certainly fix them all :-p
amette: You find the solution to let the earth rotate slowlier and I join you in the bugfixing mission! :D
lphuberdeau: bugs, features, same difference
amette: hehehe - heya lphuberdeau :)
yeah, funnily that sentence crossed my mind two minutes ago, when I was typing here, too *g*
JoernOtt: amette: Maybe we should really consider some drastic changes for maybe 7.x or 8.x
lphuberdeau: I guess it comes naturally when you've been around tiki for too long
gosh, and I thought I was making pretty drastic changes, you mean more?
amette: yeah, I'm too wondering about what kind of drastic changes will bring _no_ regressions with them? :)
JoernOtt: hehe, things like making a plan to move tiki a bit more towards object-oriented stuff
amette: ouch
JoernOtt: and then having for example a few very extensively tested core objects
amette: that discussion is probably as old as tiki
JoernOtt: like the one for permissions
the one for rendering a text
lphuberdeau: well, the search is headed that way now
JoernOtt: exactly
but we still have many things like wiki pages/articles/forum posts/blog posts which have very similar core requirements
but differ at least a little bit
luciash: JoernOtt: it's the way to fork
lphuberdeau: it's always a matter of who's going to invest time in it and what the benefits would be
luciash: JoernOtt: it's called bitweaver now and i don't hear much about it around anymore
lphuberdeau: I don't think that "going object" is a good enough objective
amette: yup, sounds like "for the sake of itself"
JoernOtt: well, but maybe a more clear structure then
amette: that's all beautiful and I'm the last to object this...
JoernOtt: so, what is the difference between a wiki page and an article then?
amette: ... just realistically - how many man-hours do you need to rewrite the tens of thousands of lines to do that?
JoernOtt: there are a few things you have with the article, you don't have with wiki pages
amette: and how far has mainline tiki evolved in that time?
... f0rk..
or a complete stop of development for a year - misssing two versions
no one ever came up with a more feasible idea of really putting these ideas into practice...
lphuberdeau: one aspect at a time, and things go forward
amette: .. I think that's the ultimate problem with such a restructuring/-write/-factor
lphuberdeau: tiki is still miles ahead of where it was a few years back
amette: yeah, that sounds most feasible
that's true, too :)
lphuberdeau: either I got used to it, or the code is more tolerable than it was
JoernOtt: hehe, it definitely improved
luciash: lphuberdeau: i think both :)
JoernOtt: I still have my old accounting stuf, I hacked for our computer club for tiki 1.9 (I am porting it to 6.x now)
and tiki improved quite a lot
so, I could reduce large portions of my code
Do you think that storing (extended) HTML in the database instead of wiki syntax would make things easier (like WYSIWYG editors) if we would still have some HTML->WIKI-Syntax->HTML converters?
At the moment, this seems to be one of the things causing a lot of work to the developers to get things done properly
lphuberdeau: I'm still not convinced there is a good wysiwyg solution out there
JoernOtt: Yes, that is why we should keep the plain old simple wiki-Syntax editor as well
But with storing HTML, we might be able to implement different wysiwyg editors or upgrade the one we have more easily
lphuberdeau: someone already stored html directly in the table
JoernOtt: We could even think about interfaces to external editors (like m$ office ...brrrrrr...)
lphuberdeau: it had a huge ripple effect in the code
JoernOtt: yes, this is the problem
and I don't want to loose my non-wysiwyg-Interface, which is quite fast and efficient
luciash: JoernOtt: i already had the simmilar idea years ago (to store wiki pages as XHTML/XML) but the guys freaked out and told that it would be impossible to parse back to wiki plugins etc.
JoernOtt: Well, I want to keep the plugins
this is what I meant with "extended" HTML
luciash: JoernOtt: it would be definitely fast like hell to read the pages directly from db table and parse back to wiki syntax only for editing
JoernOtt: Those plugins will always be a PITA for integrating into any WYSIWYG editor
luciash: JoernOtt: but you'd need real parser and store history for diffs for both (generated page content VS wiki syntax used to create it)
JoernOtt: well, not really, but the parser must be reliably convert wiki syntax to html AND back
luciash: JoernOtt: so the editor (either wiki or wysiwyg) would know how to produce the syntax back in time of editing
JoernOtt: yes
so, if I choose to use the wiki-syntax editor, it must convert html reliably to that syntax
and back after editing
lphuberdeau: you're asking for the holy grail
many people tried to get the back and forth conversion working, everyone failed
JoernOtt: The worst thing that happens is if people mix html and wiki syntax to get the desired results
lphuberdeau: the syntax is just not understood enough
luciash: well, maybe one could store all that info how the tag was produced in a special attributes for that (XML) tag and just strip them out for normal XHTML output or use XSLT (as sept7 suggested too) - but that would be again slowdown
lphuberdeau: luciash, don't worry about performance until it works
JoernOtt: and besides, a wysiwyg editor would not produce those tags if it only knows HTML
luciash: lphuberdeau: it is just another kind of caching solution in fact (storing the pages as XHTML in tables)
lphuberdeau: cache shouldn't go in the database ;)
luciash: i don't know, but for sure parsing whole document wiki syntax just for display it is much more queries and computation than just one query to get the content already parsed
isn't it ?
JoernOtt: well, if you parse the {plugin} stuff later, there would still be parsing necessary
lphuberdeau: problem is that the parsing is user-specific
JoernOtt: which part of the "old" wiki-syntax is?
sylvieg: do we have a lib somewhere to do the header stuff to download a file or I need to headr(Content-type); header(authenticate...)
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lphuberdeau: if it's anywhere, that would be headerlib
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jonnyb: polom from the north (relatively)
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jonnyb: anyone seen Rodrigo lately?
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chealer: hi jonnyb
jonnyb: hi chealer
chealer: I didn't see Rodrigo today but few days ago
jonnyb: we have a bit of jQuery code for dynamic pretty trackers we'd like you to review to document what we did. please tell us when you have some time
jonnyb: seems the mediawiki importer isn't working (for me, anyway)
can have a look at the jq stuff now if you like
CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30408 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: Admin Users: display link to user information even if information is private if viewer is site admin.
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chealer: sorry jonnyb, I realize I'm not able to get to the code at the moment
thanks
luciash: how can i display articles after expiry date on wiki page called "articles-archive" ?
jonnyb: ok, chealer - gottagonowtoo
hi/bye luciash
luciash: jonnyb: hello :)
jonnyb: bye :)
chealer: bye jonnyb
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John_87: hey guys
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luciash: hi John_87
John_87: one question how do i add point to the correct answers?
vor the quizz
for*
luciash: point as in link ?
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John_87: http://tiki.org/QuizQuestionImport
if i do that how do i also give the points with it or do i need to fill in that manual
luciash: oh, you mean the "*" charater ?
*character
John_87: yes
luciash: you add it manually in the import text
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John_87: yes i know but i mean the amount of points for the right answer
luciash: only one is right and that is indicated by the point
in the example
or you can maybe have more than one right, then just add the asterisk character there too
John_87: sorry one sec i think i am not clear enough but i don't know how to say it in english(i am dutch)
if i add questions through the webinterface i can set an amount of point for each question that is right but i don't see this back in the import
luciash: ah, like "reward points" ?
John_87: yes :D
luciash: i don't know, maybe that is not implemented in the import feature
back to my question:
how can i display articles after expiry date on wiki page called "articles-archive" ?
i don't see it in the articles plugin as an obvious param
John_87: you can add a module with artickles archive
"artickle archives"
luciash: John_87: ah, good tip
John_87: thanks
John_87: no problem
found it?
-: marclaporte just had a strange thought when thinking of http://doc.tiki.org/Custom+Code+HowTo+-+jQuery
marclaporte thanks luciash for making this page
marclaporte: So....
luciash: John_87: yeah
John_87: i will try it in page using the MODULE wikiplugin
marclaporte: Custom code entry is part of Site Identity, and I consider luci as the "father" of Site Identity :-)
jQuery in Tiki, I consider Jonnyb as being the "father"....
luciash: marclaporte: yeah, and you still call it Site Identity ;)
marclaporte: So now, we have grand children!
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luciash: hahah
-: marclaporte is proud of the offspring of Jonnyb and luciash :-)
chealer: excuse Marc, he's drinking too much Cola
John_87: are you guys developers of tiki?
-: marclaporte is an a restaurant in Montreal, along with lphuberdeau and chealer....
marclaporte: There are bunch of devs here in IRC...
luciash: chealer: ROFL
marclaporte: greetigs there
John_87: what about the ages of the devs?
marclaporte: I am very excited that wiki syntax is getting more & more powerful and that via Site Identity/look & feel, we can now do amazingly powerful stuff, without changing a single file via FTP
John_87 : that is an interesting question, likely same demographics as most open source projects
got to go
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John_87: i am also a dev (not for tiki though) and i am using tiki for coordinate the other devs for what we still need and so ( i am 23)
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John_87: lawl
lphuberdeau: I guess the age around tiki goes from 20 to 70
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John_87: nice :|
the youngest in my team is 20 and i am the oldest lol (we are still students) and we are trying to make a mmo click game (with very nice features ofcourse) just to learn to work better with php
and we use tiki to keep track of the documents and communicate about problems
lphuberdeau: by the way, you can request commit access on Tiki if you ever feel like improving something
John_87: cool
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fifer: I have a fresh install of the latest tikiwiki and when ever I try to click the "Click here to confirm your action" button after making changes to a uyser, it does nothing
I have no issues confirming other actions, only this one.
Trying to find info on this issue online but nothing yet
John_87: and that is on every part of the website? or just at editting users
fifer: This is just editing a tiki wiki user using admin > users
Only when editing users, when I'm prompted to confirm things elsewhere there is no issue
It even asks me to confirm my navigation to the user edit page, which works
it is only when trying to save changes that the issue arises
John_87: yeah i have the some problem one moment
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John_87: :( i can't find it
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John_87: sorry fifer but i can't help you with this i can't find it eighter
luciash: chealer: web app gallery installations upgrades are not offered via the windows live update ?
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changi: polom
chealer: luciash: windows live update? is that the same as windows update?
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Trentin: hi everyone i am trying to upgrade my tikiwiki version from 3.8 to 5.3
the database upgrade ran fine but i now get an error when trying to use the tiki
lphuberdeau: what does the error look like?
Trentin: i get the following comment on the erro in the actionlog table "select data from sessions where sesskey = 'p46bh1bg5hsdlpeo9vepttulb1' and expiry > ?"
lphuberdeau: that does not look too nice
Trentin: the page itself doesn't give me any good info on the error
that is all i have been able to find
lphuberdeau: any more details than that visible?
Trentin: nope
checked the mysql logs and that is the last query run on the page
lphuberdeau: give me a sec, havn't updated my 5.x in ages
in the very short term, I would expect disabling database sessions will solve it
Trentin: how do i do that?
lphuberdeau: tricky as you can't access the site, I know :)
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lphuberdeau: found the bug
Trentin: is it a preference in the db?
k
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Trentin: so what is causing this issue?
lphuberdeau: error in the code actually
Trentin: yeah i just found it
lphuberdeau: luckily, that file was not modified between 5 and 6, so I'll just patch 6 quickly and point you to the file
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Trentin: tikisession-pdo.php it seems
lphuberdeau: should look like this:
33 if( $prefs['session_lifetime'] > 0 ) {
34 $qry = "select data from sessions where sesskey = ? and expiry > ?";
35 $bindvars[] = $prefs['session_lifetime'];
36 } else {
37 $qry = "select data from sessions where sesskey = ?";
38 }
just missing an argument
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Trentin: cool
thanx
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lphuberdeau: fixed for 6, thanks for reporting
really surprised this one did not show up before
John_87: there is also a problem with the confirmation screen after editting a user and i can't find what it is
can't confirm the changes but the other 2 buttons are working well
lphuberdeau: I don't really fix UI stuff
John_87: well i think it is script stuff though :S
try to edit a user password than u see what i mean
via admin console
lphuberdeau: works for me, at least in 6
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John_87: yeah i am running 5.3
chealer: John_87: see http://tiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.3#Regressions
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sylvieg: chealer: you have mail in the csv list
chealer: sylvieg: thanks, I'll deal with that
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chealer: sylvieg: I would put 'description' => tra('Wiki attachment:') . ' ' . tra('Used as link label
instead of the file name or file description'),
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sylvieg: ^^ hope it is ok this time
John_87: brb
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John_87: hey
how can i make users clickable in the userlist?
i can only click on admin
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John_87: hey deau
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chealer: John_87: their profile must be public, I think
John_87: they are public maybe the site cache one sec ill try
damn ok thnx but it was the cache
maybe an idea to make a module for the pms system
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chealer: sylvieg: thank you, perfect merge
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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30418 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: Installer: add label for checkboxes of failed upgrade patches
luciash: chealer: yes, the same
chealer: luciash: no, it's the different system. there's not even a concept of upgrade, you just install a new version over the last. they're very far from having Debian-like package management.
s/the/a/
luciash: haha, ok :-p
i just hoped, maybe ;)
i will give it a try (5.1 to 5.3)
what does one need to enable (alias(Foo)) feature ?
chealer: doc, dev down
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