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| gh0st3r | hey?
does anyone know how tikiwiki stores regular users passwords? | [02:32] |
| fabricius | hi
not really - a developer did explain it to me recently there is some algorythm as far as I know, no way to read them out ... what would be good in my opinion ;-) why you ask? | [02:39] |
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| gh0st3r_ | does anyone know how tikiwiki hashes its passwords?
its not with md5 or atlast where i could find this? | [02:58] |
| fabricius | perhabs somewhere at tiki.org? | [03:05] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: 503 error - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39553 | [03:32] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30781 10/branches/6.x/styles/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Align sharethis icon with other icons in div.actions and remove padding tikiwiki: (which is a property of the other .share implementation). (All the relevant CSS tikiwiki: should be looked at and refactored for a better long-term fix.) | [04:13] |
| chealer | gh0st3r_: in userslib I guess. which version do you use? | [04:19] |
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| gh0st3r_ | woop woop
found it thanks guys ;) | [04:55] |
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| pvfa | using version 6 with darkshine theme... getting theme background inside of WYSIWYG editor when trying to edit wikis... they display properly on a white background, just hard to edit them.. anyone have any ideas where to look? | [05:13] |
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| coaboa||away | hi & good morning all | [07:53] |
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| fabricius | polom coaboa | [08:15] |
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| fabricius | got the email? | [08:15] |
| coaboa | hi | [08:15] |
| fabricius | :-D | [08:16] |
| coaboa | reagarding "unserer deutschsprachigen benutzergruppe" ;-) | [08:16] |
| fabricius | yes exactly, regarding zur "deutschen Sprachsingens Benutzergemeinde"
Gruppe | [08:19] |
| coaboa | re: bbb sound we shoud use murmur with mumble ;-) | [08:19] |
| fabricius | what should not mean, that we take over this room with german now ;-)
murmur with mummmble - cool - tell me more streaming tool? or from mummmbling? | [08:20] |
| coaboa | a tool comparable with teamspeak but lgpl and works without delay even on the same server as bbb where asterix produces delays of ~10-20 sec
*asterisc but a client (mumble) and a server (murmur) has to be installed but then it works perfect | [08:22] |
| fabricius | bbb is fasing asterisk out - I guess in 0.71 it is just gone
does it work better than skype? far better? | [08:23] |
| coaboa | freeswitch is there...? coooooool | [08:24] |
| fabricius | lgpl is fine - perhabs better than proprietary skype, BUT
we need s.th without client for streaming and preferably for communication aswell | [08:24] |
| coaboa | DREAMES ARE MY REALITY säusel räusper ;-) | [08:25] |
| fabricius | hust hust
look, we only can people convince to regularly use a streaming tool and following the events, if it works and when they have kind of an extendet value if they just waste time, cause it never worked and never will work, there is no use and no demand on the other hand, it is the personal meeting of each other, talking, drinking beeretc. that brings things forward most important talks are most time far after the actual event often enough after lunch in the bar | [08:26] |
| coaboa | ++ I talk about a professional application where people have a real meating and they do not accept any delay > 0,5 sec. As I am a freqent mmorpg player: those gaming-audio-tools do not have any relevant delay | [08:30] |
| fabricius | I belive you ... but with what argumentation we could "force" people to download just another client application, weather it is good or better - we are just trying to offer a service
I´d say, it needs not to be perfect, but work stable at all and to a certain extend of audio quality eachone most understand the others without being bolloxed after 1/2 an hour but again - if any possible, without any need to download a client thats my 2 cent | [08:32] |
| coaboa | not forcing, offering ;-) It works. Will Install a bbb server for a custommer anyhow. with freeswitch it should be possible to have a mixed environment with mumble and streaming client!!! | [08:34] |
| fabricius | and sorry, if it´s maybe 5 cent - just a bit tired ... heading for coffee now | [08:35] |
| coaboa | get me coffe too ;-) | [08:35] |
| fabricius | I am definitely interested in your solution
fabricius hands a coffee to coaboa | [08:35] |
| coaboa | thx | [08:36] |
| fabricius | it´s just ... just ... would like to have it in the browser instead :-> | [08:37] |
| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3668 - - An image Wiki page require perm on "tiki_p_download_files" to be displayed - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3668 | [08:47] |
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| coaboa | fabricius: yes browser is preferable if it works. and as the vidio work well I have the hope that with freeswitch and the improved audio package handling it will work out well. I hope to join the wikifest london and maybe we can figure out something there | [09:12] |
| fabricius | I cannot be there, but I would be delighted, if you´d get something extended regarding to audio quality and us giving some opportunity taking part online
mind TikiFest Karlsruhe2011 u r not very far from me ~ 120 to 150 km thats good from the perspective of getting s.th done with hardware/software setup | [09:14] |
| coaboa | y, my mothers family comes from Karlsruhe | [09:16] |
| fabricius | ah so more opportunities are rising up the horizon
I have to do a restart ... mom | [09:16] |
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| fabricius | re
that was a long restart coaboa ;-) just came to chat with an old friend from ireand | [10:33] |
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| PhilBack | polom!
I have some weird things occuring with some installs. Nothing changed from the tiki side. Could it be that a new version of PHP or MySQL made it bomb? SQL queries with insert give problems. | [11:09] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | PhilBack: which PHP and MySQL versions you are using?
PhilBack: you have upgraded your Tiki recently? maybe you did and forgot to upgraded the database as well | [11:11] |
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| qoumaq | Hello, I would like to become a tikiwiki developer (I have some enhancements in calendar module). I have read all pages, I have an account in tikiwiki site and source forge, I can download current tikiwiki sources, but I can not commit my changes. What should I do? | [11:29] |
| xavi | qoumaq: hold on a sec...
xavi fecthing his ceremony hat qoumaq: ready for the ceremony? | [11:31] |
| qoumaq | Something has changed, but now I see
Error: Working copy 'D:DevSpacesourceforgetikiwikitrunk' locked Error: Please execute the 'Cleanup' command. I must leave now, I'll be back in 30 minutes, thank You | [11:36] |
| xavi | ok
xavi leaves the ceremony hat in the shelf again | [11:37] |
| yonixxx | what ceremony ? :)
yonixxx check trumpets... and triangle are ready in case of | [11:48] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30782 10/branches/6.x/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW][bp/r30622]add the possibility to display a set of wiki plugin parameters only if a specific value of another parameter is selected (using flash wikiplugin as an example). Thanks rodrigo_sampaio
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30783 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_file.php: [bp/r30623 & r30624]adding new param type and setting other params as children of one of the values of type param for wikiplugin_file.php + replacing four spaces with tab. Thanks rodrigo_sampaio | [12:12] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30784 10/trunk/lib/test/core/Search/Formatter/DataSourceTest.php: [MOD] Adding a test to make sure resultsets will always be a valid input | [12:26] |
| luciash | polom | [12:28] |
| lphuberdeau | polom | [12:30] |
| fabricius | moloq luciash
moloq lphuberdeau | [12:31] |
| luciash | hi guys | [12:31] |
| coaboa | hi | [12:32] |
| luciash | hi coaboa
luciash goes to grab his first coffee today, brb | [12:35] |
| lphuberdeau | very good idea | [12:37] |
| qoumaq | So I have executed clean command in tortoisesvn, now I don't see errors, but I stil can not commit, authentication does not succeed, I use user name and password same as I have to my sourceforge profile | [12:38] |
| luciash | :)
qoumaq: that's because you didn't finished the ceremony with xavi ;) | [12:38] |
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| xavi | hi luciash, do you feel like doing ceremony while you sip your first coffee? :-) | [12:41] |
| luciash | hmmm, i was hoping you will do that, but if you're overly busy :) | [12:42] |
| xavi | xavi half way backporting more things from rodrigo to 6x
no worries, I can do that. enjoy your coffee :-) qoumaq: are you ready for the ceremony? | [12:42] |
| qoumaq | Yes | [12:43] |
| xavi | xavi fetches the hat again (and removes the dust from his hat) | [12:43] |
| fabricius | wow | [12:44] |
| xavi | qoumaq: you have to answer a few questions in three steps | [12:44] |
| fabricius | fabricius feels honoured to attend a ceremony | [12:44] |
| xavi | first step: have you read and understood the basic 3 rules for developers? | [12:44] |
| fabricius | oops silent | [12:44] |
| xavi | http://dev.tiki.org/3rules
xavi hopes that he wrote the right link | [12:44] |
| qoumaq | I know the rules | [12:47] |
| xavi | mmm, sorry, but I need you to confirm if you understand what they mean | [12:49] |
| qoumaq | How can I confirm? I khink it is clear - I must respect the environment, commit my changes as soon as possible and make my modules optional | [12:53] |
| fabricius | qoumaq: it is a ceremony | [12:53] |
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| fabricius | you must be asked and then you must answer
;-) | [12:53] |
| qoumaq | I heva read the rules and I think I understand | [12:54] |
| xavi | ok, thanks, qoumaq
then we proceed with the second step... | [12:55] |
| qoumaq | ok | [12:56] |
| xavi | what's your sourceforge username? | [12:56] |
| qoumaq | qoumaq | [12:56] |
| xavi | ok
and the third and most important step of all.... xavi hears some drums in the background.... Welcome to Tiki Community!!! :-) | [12:56] |
| luciash | luciash blows his imaginary trumbet and welcomes qoumaq too :) | [12:57] |
| xavi | so here you are, you already have commit rights | [12:57] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03qoumaq * r30785 10/trunk/test.txt: just a test | [12:58] |
| xavi | :-)
now you know, qoumaq , respect the environment :-) (don't leave test trash out there) | [12:58] |
| luciash | luciash thinks qoumaq takes the commit early commit ofter rule seriously ;) | [12:58] |
| xavi | and welcome back! | [12:58] |
| fabricius | fabricius claps his hands and shouts hurray hurray hurray | [12:59] |
| xavi | yeah, so early! | [12:59] |
| qoumaq | Thank You, it works, the ceremony surprised a little bit | [12:59] |
| fabricius | thats the tiki way of live | [12:59] |
| xavi | xavi takes out the ceremony hat (luckily with lest dust on it right now)
yeah, it's the way it's been for years... :-) (traditional ceremonies, you know) | [12:59] |
| luciash | qoumaq: sorry to scare you a bit, it's just a little of fun we have here ;) and little of necessity | [13:00] |
| fabricius | even not beeing in the position to get a ceremony, because I am not a coder - I like that very much | [13:00] |
| xavi | with little variations depending on the person doing the ceremony | [13:00] |
| fabricius | it is not only fun luciash I guess | [13:00] |
| xavi | fabricius: every single commiter needs this sort of ceremony to get commit access (also for language translations the old way - svn) | [13:01] |
| luciash | fabricius: just joking | [13:01] |
| xavi | qoumaq: where are you from, btw? (just curiosity) | [13:01] |
| fabricius | ah cool - marc wanted to show me this ... perhabs we will not get there by time on saturday - we will see | [13:01] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03qoumaq * r30786 10/trunk/test.txt: test.txt was used to test my commit access rights, so I delete it now | [13:02] |
| luciash | xavi: yeah, i was tempted to ask instead of your last step ;) | [13:02] |
| xavi | :-) | [13:02] |
| fabricius | and xavi - I actually did my translation commits on i18n - no svn, no ceremony | [13:02] |
| xavi | ok, fabricius | [13:02] |
| luciash | qoumaq sounds like czech word "koumák" ;) | [13:03] |
| qoumaq | Czech Republic, Brno city | [13:03] |
| luciash | bingo " :D
! qoumaq: ahoj, tak to je paráda :) | [13:03] |
| fabricius | but actually, xavi, I will setup a svn account, at least for some little stuff and perhabs still necessary svn language commits (even if I think, maybe thats fixed already) | [13:04] |
| luciash | luciash sees 2011 as year of Czech Tiki when there Tiki will gain more czech users (and contributors) finally | [13:05] |
| fabricius | someday in future, I will be able to commit aswell some code ... until then, I might have enough other tasks here, not to seem kind of lazy ;-)
luciash: you should think about organising a TikiFest | [13:06] |
| luciash | fabricius: i think about it every now and then ;) | [13:07] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30787 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_file.php: (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [ENH]Option to have a popup to 'Pick a file' re-added to wikiplugin_file.php, tikiwiki: but this time working successfully, and a few params tagged as advanced to clear tikiwiki: the interface. Also, after agreeing with rodrigo_sampaio, set File from gallery" tikiwiki: as the option shown by default, to avoid two extra clicks for the common task to tikiwiki: select or add a file to a file gallery and link it from that textarea (wiki page tikiwiki: or wherever else in tiki has a textarea). thanks rodrigo_sampaio, and chealer | [13:07] |
| xavi | oups, sorry for the loong description in the commit message | [13:07] |
| luciash | xavi: now that was descriptive | [13:07] |
| qoumaq | It sounds like I intend, koumak is used by somebody else on google | [13:07] |
| luciash | qoumaq: i see :) | [13:08] |
| fabricius | luciash: how many Tikimembers there are in Czeck Republic? | [13:09] |
| luciash | xavi: thanks for having it fixed, tho i didn't notice it was broken | [13:09] |
| fabricius | you, qoumaq, ... | [13:09] |
| luciash | fabricius: me an qoumaq ? :D | [13:09] |
| fabricius | thats at leats two | [13:10] |
| luciash | i have some friends and clients for which i made Tiki powered sites, but not much | [13:10] |
| fabricius | Lets say some users from Austria and Germany, perhabs Poland would come, there could be a decent TikiFest with good Czeck beer | [13:11] |
| luciash | and they are just consumers mostly, barely having any idea what Tiki is | [13:11] |
| fabricius | oh, clients and friends ... and some devs and admins and users from other countries ....
interested people might be a good target audience aswell especially to get a software recognised in a country | [13:11] |
| luciash | fabricius: sure ! definitely, Marc would come too ;) you're welcome... it's a plan, but it has to be determined yet | [13:12] |
| fabricius | you would get some support by people from the community- especially for that task
important would be a good preperation | [13:13] |
| coaboa | ;-) | [13:13] |
| xavi | ok, next step for today: where are the tools for the default toolbar defined?
I don't get it.... | [13:13] |
| fabricius | lets say ... hmmm what time in the year would be good in Czeckia? | [13:14] |
| luciash | qoumaq: btw, if you want to discuss something in czech, feel free to hang on #tikiwiki-cz | [13:14] |
| xavi | rodrigo_sampaio: do you know where are they defined? (tools in the toolbar) | [13:14] |
| fabricius | Summer is quite full
Winter I guess would be continental weather | [13:14] |
| xavi | I mean, to add a new tool to the default toolbar in texareas | [13:14] |
| luciash | xavi: defined ? | [13:14] |
| xavi | well, I'm looking for a way to add a new tool (a proposal of new tool) for the default toolbar | [13:15] |
| luciash | ah | [13:15] |
| fabricius | xavi: default toolbar in texareas ?? are you meaning in the code? | [13:15] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | xavi: no I don't, but I'm about to check that for the changes I'm doing with the flash wikiplugin | [13:15] |
| luciash | toolbarlib something ? | [13:15] |
| xavi | linked to plugin file | [13:15] |
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| xavi | ok, I'll look for that, thanks luciash
yes, fabricius | [13:15] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | xavi: so it is likely that I will have the answer in a few minutes :) | [13:15] |
| xavi | :-) | [13:15] |
| luciash | xavi: jonnyb would be handy ;) | [13:16] |
| fabricius | luciash: so I guess more in autumn 2011 or early 2012 | [13:16] |
| xavi | xavi checking inside lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php
jonnyb is busy today with urgent things xavi talked to him on skype a while ago | [13:16] |
| qoumaq | luciash: thanks, I will look, I will try to integrate calendar reminder to current tikiwiki, we are using it in our company for a long time, but i must make it optional and merge with current source codes | [13:16] |
| xavi | s/talked/chatted | [13:16] |
| fabricius | should be discussed with marc, what do you think, luciash ? | [13:17] |
| luciash | fabricius: yes, next autumn sounds good | [13:17] |
| xavi | qoumaq: calendar reminder will be wonderful! :-) | [13:17] |
| luciash | qoumaq: sounds cool ! | [13:18] |
| xavi | please, consider adding to branches/6.x if you are able to commit before 6.1 is released
otherwise, you'll have to commit to trunk first, and backport if possible to proposals/6x (when it's created; I repeat, if this happens after 6.1 is released) | [13:18] |
| fabricius | in case of more customers and newbies there should be some presentations and talks, but also some coding like TikiHack and Socialicing like TikiBarCamp and TikiBeat
just as a tendency I´d say in what city you live luciash ? | [13:18] |
| luciash | fabricius: near Polička | [13:19] |
| fabricius | ^^ hmm do not kow too much cities in Czeckia - sorry
I´ll check maps.google.com | [13:20] |
| luciash | fabricius: nice little historical walled town with its own brewery ;) | [13:20] |
| fabricius | its own brewery - have of the effort of the TikiFest is saved | [13:21] |
| luciash | :) | [13:22] |
| fabricius | you should consider to organise it near big event and another TikiFest, so that its rewarding to come to Europe
like combining several events and good decent holidays or roundtrips | [13:22] |
| luciash | we have to plan Prague tour first I guess to do some "tourist stuff", then move to my country side...
we'll see next year maybe it will happen in Prague or Brno in the end, but that would be more difficult to organize place | [13:23] |
| fabricius | yes, but not too late - if you already have kind of a concept (alternatives perhabs) in mind, mention it ... then people might think about early and like to do it as part of a Czeckia-holidaytrip
and countyside need not to be a bad idea (every TikiFest is different) | [13:24] |
| luciash | yup, ok, back to work now
:) | [13:25] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | xavi: there is a preference called toolbar_global | [13:26] |
| fabricius | accommodation - kitchen - workspace/office/large room and a decent DSL | [13:26] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | xavi: and others like toolbar_blogs, etc | [13:26] |
| fabricius | if you would live in an old farmers house and have fast internet, that could be an even cooler event than in a huge city
Karlsruhe we´ll make in our house, if it will not become massively too much people | [13:27] |
| xavi | yes, rodrigo_sampaio , thanks. I'm looking for the way to add a new icon the the default toolbar to open the wikiplugin file | [13:27] |
| luciash | fabricius: that's what we do | [13:28] |
| fabricius | for 10 to 12 guests we have plenty of space
luciash: living in an old farmhouse? | [13:28] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | xavi: I guess you just have to change the default value of toolbar_global in lib/setup/prefs.php | [13:28] |
| xavi | xavi checking that default value | [13:28] |
| luciash | fabricius: kind of | [13:30] |
| xavi | wohooo, thanks rodrigo_sampaio , much easier than I expected! (I was getting half lost in the toolbarslib.php) | [13:30] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | :) | [13:30] |
| luciash | fabricius: is 5Mbit DSL enough ? | [13:31] |
| xavi | yay, it works! | [13:32] |
| fabricius | luciash: but thats damned cool ... farmhouse, old historical city with local brewery ... wow | [13:32] |
| xavi | xavi checking what happens to that icon if some settings are different, just in case... (file gals off, etc) | [13:33] |
| fabricius | luciash: I would guess it should be far enough ... we would not be 50 people streaming and downloading to an extent each
important is some decent conectivity to check servers, to commit code, to e-mail etc. | [13:33] |
| luciash | fabricius: yep, and we can make trips to the surrounding cities or have a walk in nature, climb rocks etc. ;) | [13:33] |
| fabricius | I´d say this would be enough for 20 people, if I remember to Berlin for ex.
I´d say a day or two for Prague before or after the Fest should be considered, just as when people come to Czeckia anyway | [13:34] |
| luciash | that's what i suggested | [13:35] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | lphuberdeau: now flash wikiplugin has support for youtube, vimeo and blip.tv. I would like to create aliases for flash wikiplugin to make it even easier to add videos using one of those services. you think it is a good idea to set default plugin alias and distribute them by default with tiki or in this case (having them as default in Tiki) for some reason the best would be to create new plugins (files) and in the plugin code simulate the alias (b | [13:35] |
| luciash | ok, bbl | [13:36] |
| fabricius | not like a guided tour, but some tips, where to go, where to eat, where to accommodate | [13:36] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | lphuberdeau: I'm asking this because I haven't check yet how plugin alias are stored | [13:36] |
| fabricius | jo, have to go anyway
nice talks guys bye ah my daily question | [13:36] |
| lphuberdeau | rodrigo: it's quite complicated to bundle them... they are stored inside preferences at this time and in kind of a weird format | [13:37] |
| fabricius | nearly forgit
forgot I have a problem at a community members site: tiki-admin_modules.php leads me to the appropriate admin area, while tiki-admin_modules.php?edit_assign=3#assign leads me to a white page. I already switched on the error messages | [13:37] |
| luciash | fabricius: memory_limit issue | [13:37] |
| fabricius | still white page
ah ok shure? | [13:37] |
| luciash | sure | [13:38] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | lphuberdeau: ok, so I will create new wikiplugins and call wikiplugin_flash inside them | [13:38] |
| lphuberdeau | rodrigo: easiest way to distribute them is really through profiles... there were discussions around bundling profiles with tiki, but I never took any actions on that | [13:38] |
| fabricius | I will have to mention to him, as I have no access at all to his server | [13:38] |
| xavi | rodrigo_sampaio: +1 on your approach with current tiki design
luciash: I need some help with icons | [13:38] |
| fabricius | in my cas some weeks ago it was not really a memory issue ... but it was some different than this one - just a bit similar | [13:39] |
| xavi | the icon I added to wikiplugin_file is shown all right in the default (non-wysiwyg) toolbar. so far, so good | [13:39] |
| fabricius | mom IDEA | [13:39] |
| xavi | but when I switch to wysiwyg, the icon is shown as in full size
instead of small, as the others | [13:39] |
| luciash | the icon must be 16x16 xavi | [13:40] |
| xavi | do I need to add the icon resized somewhere else, for the wysiwyg to use it properly? | [13:40] |
| coaboa | that why its called wysiwyg ;-) | [13:40] |
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| xavi | coaboa: :-)
luciash: ok, thanks, I'll do that | [13:40] |
| fabricius | hmm just checked - clear cache in browser did not work | [13:41] |
| luciash | xavi: iirc, better check the size of the others | [13:41] |
| ricks99 | hi all :) | [13:41] |
| luciash | might be 18x18, i am not sure
hi ricks99 | [13:41] |
| fabricius | maybe clear cache in Tiki might help? | [13:41] |
| coaboa | hi ricks99 | [13:42] |
| fabricius | ah ricks, hi ... did you get my notes? | [13:42] |
| luciash | fabricius: just cleared all cache on t.o | [13:42] |
| fabricius | perhabs a bit late, but no chance earlier on | [13:42] |
| ricks99 | @fabricius: y, just responded.
someone (i thought you) had added a bunch of stuff, so i sent it out sorry | [13:42] |
| fabricius | luciash: no, not on tiki.org - a members personal page | [13:42] |
| ricks99 | hi coaboa & luciash | [13:43] |
| luciash | fabricius: u need more than 64M from my experience | [13:43] |
| fabricius | ricks - if you can use it somehow, would be good enough - just some material for the next news perhabs ;-) | [13:43] |
| xavi | luciash: 16x16, you were right
hi ricks99 | [13:44] |
| ricks99 | yes, esp the german language group. will add to the post london wrapup
and hi xavi | [13:44] |
| fabricius | luciash: I have 40 and on the other server (shared hosting) even only 20 and I use Tiki 6 already | [13:44] |
| xavi | ricks99: you'll like my past few and next commits...
(oh well, I hope) it was low hanging fruit... | [13:44] |
| luciash | fabricius: it depends on how many modules you have assigned - more assigned, more memory it eats | [13:45] |
| lphuberdeau | not all modules are equal | [13:46] |
| fabricius | ah number of modules
but .... with the development of the use of huuuge sites with multidomain etc. this should not be an ongoing problem | [13:46] |
| lphuberdeau | last time I checked, assigning the calendar module was pretty much the worst thing you could do for your server | [13:46] |
| coaboa | fabricius: 20 MB? thats "knauserig" php default is now at 128 | [13:47] |
| fabricius | ore we will be limited by the capabilities of a shortening number of providers
there are different ways to put it up depending on the providers package that is booked | [13:47] |
| coaboa | maybe the german usergroup should think of a "huge" server for its own ;-) | [13:49] |
| fabricius | 40 to 64 should workout | [13:49] |
| lphuberdeau | what are those numbers based on? | [13:50] |
| fabricius | maybe that would be a real possibility, as we already look for related stuff - we will see
would you like to get a share, in case of we would opt for such a project? lphuberdeau: such numbers are just based on what people say, including support employees of some providers. I got several times the information, that I NEED 64, but I can work with 20 aswell but shure, somehow a lower limit drives a growing site to an extent and busts borders | [13:50] |
| lphuberdeau | each tiki is different, some will have more requirements but that does not matter much because they have less users, others need to focus on lean memory footprint because they have tons of users... it's a balance between power and resource usage | [13:52] |
| fabricius | B U T
I actually just work mostlikely with developmentsites with only very very few traffic and only a bit of content | [13:52] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30788 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH]Add the icon for wikiplugin_file in the default toolbar, with it's own tikiwiki: 16x16 icon, to ease the task to choose or upload new files for new users in a tikiwiki: similar way to what they can do with images. Thanks luciash and rodrigo_sampaio tikiwiki: for tips | [13:54] |
| fabricius | if I want to professionally operate a site with more than 50 local groups and 3000 members for a start, like I am developing and indeed the other guy aswell, than an extended limit caused by just some modules in the only activated default perspective cannot be any use | [13:55] |
| ricks99 | @xavi: did u see my email? | [13:55] |
| fabricius | so it must either be a bug or something else or a false server configuration | [13:55] |
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| xavi | ricks99: not yet
xavi goes to read email | [13:56] |
| fabricius | thats not a professional prooved testimony, but just a logical conclusion
when my (or his) 3000 members site works under permanent full throttle and then performance goes down, faults arise due to memory limits and people tell me to extend from 64MB to 128 MB, I can understand | [13:56] |
| xavi | ricks99: I did read it now, and I fully agree | [13:58] |
| lphuberdeau | the only way to support large sites, whichever technology you use, is to monitor it, profile it, and act based on that | [13:58] |
| xavi | I wouldhave preffered your addthis (it supports also sending to online pdf generation resouces, etc.) | [13:58] |
| fabricius | so in the end i need a professional or a very good book ... or both | [13:59] |
| lphuberdeau | or you can just begin, see where it goes, you might never hit severe performance issues | [13:59] |
| xavi | but I didn't know how to add myself, and it was not a priority for me. However, since I identified that adding sharethis to articles would be "low hanging fruit", and I gave it a quick try in my localhost and it succeeded, I did commit it to 6x
but again, if addthis usage was in tiki code, I would have preffered it over sharethis ricks99: ^ | [13:59] |
| ricks99 | would have preferred a generic text area that could be inserteed into the wiki-top-bar area | [14:00] |
| fabricius | or it grows to an extend, that I can hire people, who like to work with me, so that I learn a lot and the common jobs arise to an extent to even hire more nice people and support the community | [14:00] |
| ricks99 | this way, could use addthis, sharethis, etc | [14:00] |
| fabricius | the facebookfounder is 26 and made 7 billion this way :-D | [14:01] |
| ricks99 | i looked at your committs, looks good, but doesnt allow for much customization | [14:01] |
| lphuberdeau | yes, and he is 1 in 6 billion humans | [14:01] |
| xavi | ricks99: but not only wiki-top-bar area, but any tiki feature (blogs, articles, trackers, etc.)
he he, ricks99 , when I said that I hoped you would like it, I meant the improvements to the wikiplugin_file, and the addition of the icon in the default toolbar | [14:01] |
| fabricius | other good coders - indeed a higher number - are happy if they get a fixed rate of one or a few thousand | [14:02] |
| xavi | to add files (as end user) to a page with minium number of clicks, and intuitively in the same way that users can add images to file fals and textareas | [14:02] |
| fabricius | yes lphuberdeau 1 of a 100 guys in 6 billion
afk for some minutes | [14:03] |
| ricks99 | i meant custom center column area -- not wiki top bar
that's how it is on info.t.o | [14:03] |
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| xavi | ricks99: ah, ok, yes, better then this way, since it would allow deplying everywhere
ricks99: can you commit your improvements as optional? and after testing a while, we could decide which one is better, based on experience from users, etc. | [14:04] |
| ricks99 | what do u mean? i just added the addthis code as a dynamic content block on my sites, then added it where needed | [14:05] |
| xavi | I mean in an easy way for end users, as sharethis allows in tiki currently. Just enabling one setting in blog admini or article admin, and that's it
besides using pluginsharethis in textareas, as it can be achieved in trackers through static text field | [14:06] |
| ricks99 | y, but that's just the defaults. if you want to add link tracking, custom icons, analytics, bit.ly, etc. you need to do more customization
ricks99 not sure the best way to do this... | [14:07] |
| xavi | well, for end users, sharethis adds the default, which is a step forward for them, if they just want to allow their users to send links to soical networks easily | [14:08] |
| ricks99 | agreed
maybe the actual code should be externalized in its own TPL. we could have the default sharethis as the default, but if folks wanted different service, or additional customization, they simply edit 1 TPL | [14:08] |
| xavi | +1
or even have more than one tpl, and depending on user selection somewhere (social networks admin panel), they get one or the other tpl | [14:13] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30789 10/trunk/lib/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Allow to specify custom parameters to the smarty formatter | [14:21] |
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| xavi | c u all | [14:45] |
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| Mard_ | Please I need a small help. I am a newbie with TikiWiki. I like it use with czech texts. I installed it successfuly, but I am not able to enter czech text. When I try to put "pěl" I got "p?l". Can someboty to help me? | [14:53] |
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| ricks99 | @Mard_ check your database encoding. See the Release Notes for details | [14:55] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30790 10/trunk/ (db/tiki.sql installer/schema/20101119_categ_perm_tiki.sql): [FIX]categ: describe dependance of the categ perms | [14:56] |
| Mard_ | ricks99: THX | [14:57] |
| ricks99 | you're welcome | [14:59] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30791 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]tracker: stick the description to the textarea that is now in a div | [15:36] |
| sylvieg | ^^^ not the best commit - hox can I do a br with no height? | [15:40] |
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| lphuberdeau | CSS clear: both | [15:42] |
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| luciash | sylvieg: i will check
sylvieg: if you want it under textarea, you can add class="clearfix" to the textarea tag or put the description inside <div class="description">...</div> i don't understand what is $back from the commit email or what was the problem to fix | [15:43] |
| sylvieg | I do not like the br
I have a textarea that fits the 100% and the description is one line below now what not like that before... | [15:48] |
| luciash | sylvieg: what do you mean by "one line below"
sylvieg: what should it be ? | [15:56] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r30792 10/branches/6.x/ (fgal_listing_conf.php templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl): [ENH] completing the update of labels for various File Gallery parameters to clarify their usage
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30793 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Adding table formatting for basic results, syntax may still change | [16:05] |
| fabricius | mcca_mikebeary1: are you back? | [16:20] |
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| fabricius | mcca_mikebeary1: hi | [16:20] |
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| Xand1 | !help | [16:23] |
| honeygirl | help [<plugin>] [<command>] | [16:23] |
| Tiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot . | [16:23] |
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| chealer | polom | [16:25] |
| Xand1 | hey, i've got a lil problem with tikiwiki 5.3, maybe sb can help me out: i configured a bottom bar and want to make it visible to the anonymous group, but i dont know where to set this permissions. Maybe sb know? | [16:26] |
| fabricius | oops bottom bar ... I am not yet there ... still learning in the middle
But if you do not have a menu or in a customcode something like {if/group=admin} ... only just kind of... then I guess the bottom bar must be visible for everybody!? I guess you already activated the checkbox and inserted a custom Code? but as I said, I am not yet down so far in Tiki | [16:30] |
| Xand1 | y
ive inserted a login button the so i can remove the login fields @ the header | [16:35] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30794 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]tracker: rollback 30791 and put a div - thx luciash | [16:36] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30795 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_youtube.php: [bp/r30777][ENH] youtube wikiplugin support https URL. Thanks rodrigo_sampaio | [18:12] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r30796 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php:
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tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30798 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php: tikiwiki: fix vimeo param for flash wikiplugin and alphabetically order type param tikiwiki: options tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30799 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_blog.tpl: typo tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30800 10/trunk/db/tiki.sql: tikiwiki: differentiate blog post and forum post menu entries strings for easier tikiwiki: translations tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30801 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-list_posts.tpl tiki-list_posts.php): tikiwiki: [ENH] tiki-list_posts.php accepted param blogId to list only posts from tikiwiki: a specific blog tikiwiki: single blog tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30802 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_youtube.php: fix youtube wikiplugin broken after 30560 tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30803 10/trunk/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_youtube.php): refactor youtube wikiplugin to use $tikilib->embed_flash() tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30804 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] new wikiplugins vimeo and bliptv as alias for flash wikiplugin | [18:40] | |
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