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CK is now known as Guest94182 Guest94182: Hi! I recently set up tikiwiki on my server; I am wondering how I can set up a module for articule submissions for members/admins ***: mohrt has joined #tikiwiki luciash: Guest94182: hi, have u searched for the module article submission keywords on doc.t.o ?
polom everybody btw Guest94182: doc.t.o? I read the tiki for smarties and some document luciash: http://doc.tiki.org Guest94182: Yeah, I did ***: Guest94182 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)
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yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki JoernOtt: is there a way in tiki 6 to make a blog the start page?
I tried to go via admin/General on the navigation tab rodrigo_sampaio: JoernOtt: to do that the only trick is that you have to set first the blog home page on Admin -> Blogs and after that set the feature blog as the home page on Admin -> General JoernOtt: ok
thx
well, after setting it in Admin->General, it always reverts to "Wiki" ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) JoernOtt: I just set tikiIndex in the tiki_preferences table manually to "blog1" and got the desired results ***: conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki
rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki rodrigo_sampaio: JoernOtt: I have the same problem, so looks like a new bug
JoernOtt: was working a few weeks ago, so probably a regression bug ***: conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) Tiki|bot: Info: Tiki Training Day in Quebec City on December 8th - http://info.tiki.org/article126-Tiki-Training-Day-in-Quebec-City-on-December-8th ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away
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ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: hi all :-) ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3691 - - Category Transition not working - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3691 JoernOtt: rodrigo_sampaio: I just set the value manually in tiki_preferences
There you could also use "blog35" even if another blog is set to your home blog ;-) ***: thraxisp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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I am fighting with UserTracker and the registration of users. The user tracker works fine when I edit items and view them when users are logged. But the registration form allows me to input the data but doesn't save. Ideas?
I mean, during the registration process. jonnyb: polom PhilBack_ - which tiki version? PhilBack_: 6.x
I am looking inside the code of wiki_plugin and registrationlib and tiki-register.php|tpl for a while now... Trackers are not that easy code-wise, given all the features :-) ricks99: i've got user-registration tracker workin on my tiki 6 sites. i haven't seen any issues PhilBack_: the tracker works inside the site, no issue.
The point is registering users at the start. ricks99: i mean, the tracker works during registration process just fine PhilBack_: http://tiki.socius.be/tiki-register.php isn't working for me. Fields do appear and I can fill them in. The user gets registered but not the values in the user tracker. ricks99: i assume that you have the "user information tracker" selected correctly and the primary field identifed with the userid, right? PhilBack_: The fields shown are a subset of all possible fields in the user tracker. May it be linked to it.
yes, the field is properly set. With 1 autoassign and all.
It's weird.
I use wikipage templates for the look. -: ricks99 didnt' realize that you can use a wikipage tpl for the registration form. cool! PhilBack_: Yes, it works. Hence my disappointment when it doesn't saves right... :-( ricks99: so no record created at all in the db?
or is there a record, just not attached to the new user? PhilBack_: Let me see. I guess, there isn't any. But want to be 100% sure.
No record. No trackeritem, No trackerfield values ricks99: do u have tiki error reporting turned on? any errors? PhilBack_: Well,lemme check that. jonnyb: most odd - PhilBack_ (and hi ricks99) - i have a 6.x one running fine, so no bugs there i am aware of
just found a big horror in 6.x - feature_wiki_protect_email seems very broken :( PhilBack_: I've got a bunch of notices.
but it tells me: You will receive an email with information to login for the first time into this site
and I get the mail. ricks99: so the rest of the registration process works? user can actually verify and login? PhilBack_: yes, sure ricks99: as with jonnyb (hi) i too have 6.x with user registration tracker and no issues.... PhilBack_: mmmh, well, ... ricks99: can you check the db tables and verify that none are marked as crashed (especialy the tiki_tracker_xx tables) PhilBack_: already did at least twice.
nothing. ricks99: hm. PhilBack_: indeed jonnyb: can anyone else please check if feature_wiki_protect_email is failing? I'm getting the javascript tag sanitised and it wrecks all the JS on a page :(
i'm fixing now... (not trivial) ricks99: as an experiement, can you create a new tracker, just simple, and use it as the registration tracker, but *without* the wikitpl PhilBack_: will do.
here, I've got username as field in my usertracker with userselector as type and 1 as parm (autoassign) ***: lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) PhilBack_: tiki-view_tracker_item.php?view=+user works perfectly once logged in... ricks99: @jonnyb: protect email seems to b fine for me PhilBack_: view/edit jonnyb: ricks99: hmm, seems to depend on the user pref - i have "Is email public? (uses scrambling to prevent spam)" = "no") ricks99: r u talking about a specific user's email protection? or the generic js that will protect any foo@bar.com on a wiki page? jonnyb: seems to be the generic one... ricks99: seems fine on my 6.0 jonnyb: hmm, ok - it's an allow_html thing - seems to get more sanitised then a page is html
(i.e. using wysiwyg) ricks99: ahh.... ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: works fine in tiki edtor jonnyb: ok, there was something else that broke like that - i'll redirect my debugging
hi lphuberdeau lphuberdeau: good morning PhilBack_: hi lphuberdeau JoernOtt: lo ricks99: hi lph lphuberdeau: I think this is more welcoming than average
what do you all want? jonnyb: :D PhilBack_: :-p -: ricks99 wants a perfect search :-) PhilBack_: I want usertracker fixed Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Tracker Email Field Validation REGEX - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39730 lphuberdeau: sorry phil, I can't fix what I can't wrap my head around PhilBack_: hehe ***: thraxisp has joined #tikiwiki PhilBack_: Debugging with Ajax is really an issue... How do you deal with that people? lphuberdeau: firebug jonnyb: sometime even that gets lost PhilBack_: Well, I mean at the PHP level. My debugger keeps at opening files that are in Ajax requests. I am debugging the PHP code. lphuberdeau: yeah, just avoid bugs in the first place jonnyb: last resort i hack - alert("here!") - commands in the scripts PhilBack_: I am looking for someone else's... lphuberdeau: console.log() works for me jonnyb: PhilBack_: are you using eclipse/aptana? There's an option to "break on first line" that's really annoying - switch it off
it's in the debugger options config thing PhilBack_: I am using NuSphere's PhpED. Yes, that's maybe the thing. It stops at every file.
Thanks jonnyb -: jonnyb googles PhilBack_: Ha! jonnyb: is money? (and Windows only?) PhilBack_: Windows.
Money.
But worth every cent. jonnyb: there isn't enough money to make me use Windows (well, not in the Tiki world! :) ) PhilBack_: Bah, I am pretty agnostic. Windows, Linux, Mac, all over me in this office. Even Blackberry OS. jonnyb: but i've been planning to spend some money on an IDE if i can find one that's better than Aptana (for Mac OS) PhilBack_: PhpEd works under Parallels and VMWare Fusion on my Mac
fair enough for me.
But I prefer to code under Windows, go figure. jonnyb: Me too - but in my own home, with my own money i don't tend to want to use it on microsoft products...
have parallels, but need a native thing (12 hours a day in an emulator is no fun) PhilBack_: Well, I have my own business and Microsoft Action Pack is a bargain. (Parallels no emulator, it runs native code in x86) jonnyb: each to their own ;) i was just checking... PhilBack_: tracker found properly in the code.
Mac is perfect for video and audio. Linux perfect for heavy lifting. lphuberdeau: I still don't understand what feature is missing in vi that pushes people towards those huge IDEs PhilBack_: Well, can use vim and even the PHP plugins but easier with PhpEd. Will do a vid to show. ***: redflo has left lphuberdeau: ricks99, you know you can help make it better by providing feedback early, right ? :) ricks99: been posting to the page on dev.t.o ***: mohrt has joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: about the popularity stuff, it does not seem impossible, but that kind of falls lower in priority - fuzzy stuff is hard to flag as completed
but most of the rating stuff can already be achieved with advanced ratings ***: conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31009 10/branches/6.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] parse_data: Don't parse inline syntax for ck_editor. Email protect JS gets sanitised and breaks the page.
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r31010 10/branches/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: Typo lphuberdeau: about range filtering, that's in. I don't keep track of expiry at this time... outside of articles, what else can expire? ricks99: calendar items
tracker items with date range lphuberdeau: calendar items right now are "left as an exercise to the reader" ricks99: ? lphuberdeau: not implemented ricks99: doing a site search should NOT find expired events (at least not as default) CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31011 10/branches/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [FIX] wysiwyg: Oops, committed debug setup, apologies (thanks Geoff) ricks99: or past events should b ranked lower
the other big thing ive been thinking about, is a way to show/filter search results to show items to which i have contributed
i = the searcher lphuberdeau: contributors are indexed when possible
all of em for wiki pages, only first/last for most of the rest ricks99: perfect. lphuberdeau: because the db does not keep em all ricks99: coud this be extended to "participants" in calendar events? lphuberdeau: I know nothing about calendars ricks99: when calendar is implemented? -: lphuberdeau hopes someone else will do it lphuberdeau: but essentially, about anything can be added to the index, it just becomes a matter of making a UI that makes sense to search in it PhilBack_: ricks99, something is failing in wikiplugin_tracker.php when the system tries to find if values have to be saved or something. That's where the issue lies with the UserRegistration tracker.
Will compare with latest code.
from 6.x ricks99: @PhilBack_: not sure. as i said, the registration trackers are working on my 6 sites :( PhilBack_: there is something in there. I've debugged step by step. The registrationlib->register_new_user succeeds and then tiki-register.php proceeds with the usertracker and.. well, fails. This is something with a test.
($_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME'], 'tiki-register.php') === false fails or something like that. the $_SERVER[...] value is "/tiki-register.php' at debug time. not tiki-register.php Maybe this has to do but not sure. CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31012 10/branches/6.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: Add conditional warning to feature_wiki_protect_email pref to warn about it not working in wysiwyg mode. jonnyb: PhilBack_: sounds feasible - what file/line?
only one i can find is in wikiplugin_tracker.php - and that uses strpos, so should match /tiki-register.php PhilBack_: lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php:314
yes but execution flow doesn't go in. Maybe strpos should test agains 0
That's when it should save. jonnyb: but strpos($_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME'], 'tiki-register.php') === false should me it's testing that we're NOT on tiki-register.php (no?)
strpos returns false if the string's not found
returns 0 if it's found at char 0 PhilBack_: Test wrong then. I"ll test. jonnyb: try tiki-register.php
(expect that's where you started :P) PhilBack_: yes jonnyb: line 70ish ***: conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) jonnyb: sorry, no - that's where it makes the form PhilBack_: thing is: the user gets registered using the registration lib, confirmation is given, but the tracker item values aren't written out during registration. The only place would be in wikiplugin_tracker. But it doesn't happens. CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r31013 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Accounting: Allow cancellation of entries in the journal lphuberdeau: JoernOtt: by the way, I gave a quick look at the code, everything seems standard jonnyb: PhilBack_: can't see where or how it creates the usertracker item - mysterious... PhilBack_: ah ah, I guess it doesn't
the mystery deepens ***: ricks99 is now known as ricks99|away JoernOtt: lphuberdeau, thanks, I am trying hard to jonnyb: well, it does on one site i have - but i never stepped through it - it just seems to work for me ***: xavi has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) lphuberdeau: I don't know much about accounting (just enough to be dangerous actually), so I can't really comment on the specifics JoernOtt: There are still many open points but the ones documented should work now lphuberdeau: I see that you manually set object permissions when creating some type of object PhilBack_: seeming to work as well here, but doesn't. I have to login, and then, fill in my user tracker data. But upfront, it doesn't goes well. But: I am not using ALL fields from the user tracker in the user tracker form. Could it be the issue? In fact, I do not want to ask everyting upfront, just the essentials. JoernOtt: this is the very special part, when creating a book
I create a group for this books "admin accountants" as well lphuberdeau: I think it's a nice usability touch, but I can't help to wonder if the management burden wouldn't be lower by using category permissions JoernOtt: and give the necessary objet permissions for that book to the newly created group
Theroretically you could set up an accounting company with tiki
for each customer you have one book (per year), none should see the others and different people are allowed to do different things lphuberdeau: and that really has to change from book to book?
or you could just have a category per client and manage permissions there? ***: conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki JoernOtt: of course, I would not want the computer-club people look into my companys finances
or worse one of the current "accountants" to book in there lphuberdeau: I see the need for permissions, trying to see if forcing the granularity and group creating is really mandatory JoernOtt: In the beginning I was planning on one book only, but the different books were a request on the accounting page jonnyb: PhilBack_: ok, i eventually get through to wikiplugin_tracker.php line 631 which seems to create the tracker item for me - you don't i guess?
called from tiki-register.php line 79 lphuberdeau: I guess I would like to see more categories used in there, because that's the binding point with other features... categorize books and items in there PhilBack_: @jonnyb: you mean the trklib->replace_item? jonnyb: yup JoernOtt: Take my company as an example: I am the owner, so I should be able to view, but I am not getting my hands dirty (in theory). My employee does not know much about accounting, but she has to type in all the paperwork, so she'll get book_stack permissions but no view permissions PhilBack_: about there, stepping... JoernOtt: and then we have an accountant who may book
so, for one book we already have 3 groups PhilBack_: never got there. lphuberdeau: oh, so the stack is some sort of buffer space JoernOtt: a sandbox
you can book transactions there and alter them
for the IRS, it does nor exist PhilBack_: @jonnyb: This is never triggered and I get the "You'll receive an email..." lphuberdeau: oh yeah, transactions, you seem to have dangling code about that in there JoernOtt: and the accountant reviews stuff in there and moves it to the journal lphuberdeau: (database transactions) PhilBack_: @jonny and $values are empty JoernOtt: "transactions" are booking transactions here jonnyb: PhilBack_: do you get into wikiplugin_tracker.php - and past line 355? PhilBack_: I do get into wiki_plugintracker.php but will check line 355. Breakpoint set. I've to encode the fields lphuberdeau: Actually, if you could make items categorizable, it would be really nice... you could attach expenses to projects or clients and then list those at different places
otherwise, the code seems ok to me PhilBack_: l 289: $values is NULL JoernOtt: well, a transaction is always at least two accounts and usually a client is an account PhilBack_: $_REQUEST contains all track_ fields
$itemId empty JoernOtt: so if I book EUR1000 from your account into profits, that means I charged you 1000 EUR CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31014 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 6.1 alpha 1 PhilBack_: Skipping: if (isset($_REQUEST['removeImage']) && !empty($_REQUEST['trackerId']) && !empty($_REQUEST['itemId']) && !empty($_REQUEST['fieldId']) && !empty($_REQUEST['fieldName'])) JoernOtt: and later when you pay, I'll book EUR 1000 from BANK to your account PhilBack_: got to 362 lphuberdeau: wouldn't it be nice to be able to list all transactions related to project XYZ, which is just one among many others with a given client? jonnyb: PhilBack_: hmm, the $tracker['start'] bit - not sure what that is but mine skipped straight over that bit JoernOtt: which I can easily do by assigning it an account number (this is what accountants usually do)
just wondered why large companies run with 12 or more digit account numbers? PhilBack_: inside if ($thisIsThePlugin) { jonnyb: on your tracker edit form do you have the checkbox "Items can be created only during a certain time" checked? PhilBack_: no lphuberdeau: sure, there is the classic way of doing it, but tiki has categories that can also do that, and if there are other documents in Tiki related to those projects, they could all be linked together jonnyb: what's the value of $tracker['start'] there? (and end) JoernOtt: if you are clever when planning your accounts schema, you can also group similar projects from different clients, because they al have 9** at the end lphuberdeau: ... or not have to be clever and use the existing hierarchy jonnyb: PhilBack_: looks like it must be line 361 that's failing for oyu PhilBack_: null jonnyb: and $tikilib->now ?
something in that line must be true PhilBack_: : long = 1291389765 jonnyb: sounds like "now" JoernOtt: I do not know what implications it would cause on my workload, implementing categrories and where to implement them jonnyb: PhilBack_: bizarre - i call these "1 equals 2 problems"... JoernOtt: At the moment, I am just trying to get the core functionality of an accounting software to work here PhilBack_: $ins_fields["data"][] look like okay jonnyb: PhilBack_: but it does the return on line 362? lphuberdeau: joernott, I get that, just discussing here and trying to understand where it's all going PhilBack_: can't see now, I've been back to the web okay page.
Well, brb10 my wife calls me... lphuberdeau: and maybe pushing a bit for it to be an accounting system within tiki rather than an accounting system on top of tiki JoernOtt: this is why I try to create things as modular as possible and with a lot of documented functions in the accountinglib
so that we'll have easy interfaces ***: conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw)
rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) PhilBack_: @jonnyb I get past that jonnyb: but not as far as where the replace_item happens? CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31015 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding category picker to build category filter query PhilBack_: indeed
$fields_plugin contains ALL plugin fields, not only the ones I have in the tracker. -: lphuberdeau is quite happy with the category query builder, but needs someone to make it pretty thraxisp: I'm having problems with the CSS menus on IE6/7. The theme is coelese. CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31017 10/branches/6.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] fgals: Change the default for gallery "archives" to 0 meaning unlimited, instead of -1 meaning none (it's the wiki way!) thraxisp: The text and icons underneath the menu show through or are on top of the menu. PhilBack_: jonnyb: found why: fields are not correctly compared. I do have a alphanumeric fields encoded under "Functie" which ends up tested against a "PostCode". Obviously not a numeric and that's the error I get on the field... jonnyb: PhilBack_: strange, is it a bug then? or a config issue? PhilBack_: bug Tiki|bot: New Forum Posts: WYSIWYG editor window Background issues? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39732 PhilBack_: The code works if you use ALL fields of the user tracker at registration time. If you use only a subset and want others to be filled later, it fails. jonnyb: not sure what "Functie" is? PhilBack_: $field_errors = $trklib->check_field_values($ins_fields, $categorized_fields, $trackerId, empty($itemId)?'':$itemId);
'Functie" is the label of one of my tracker fields meant for things like "Job or Position" jonnyb: hmm, if they're mandatory? or just not filled in? PhilBack_: no it checks the wrong fields. jonnyb: seems odd, i thought i have a similar thing but was ok PhilBack_: $ins_fields is 6 entries, whereas the tracker has more. I'll track it down now. jonnyb: (you just reminded me of a little usertracker bug - it shows "user: *" on the registration form but no field) PhilBack_: I'll be more knowledgeable about trackers for sure... jonnyb: brave man! :D thraxisp: jonnyb: I saw that (user: * with no field yesterday). The visibility was set to creator and admin.
Setting it to all and controlling access by groups allowed the field to show. jonnyb: yes, i just removed that field id from the user tracker fields list on the reg group properties - makes it disappear but it still works PhilBack_: jonnyb: the issue is not in check_filed_values but before because $ins_fields contains crap. ***: ricks99|away has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31018 10/branches/6.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] listpages: Do an exact match when exact_match is true PhilBack_: @jonnyb: I happen to love trackers :-) jonnyb: hurrah! someone who can code and loves tracker! :) lphuberdeau: I guess the love/hate relation you have with trackers depend on which side of the user/developer fence you are on jonnyb: there's a plan to do a very severe refactoring job on them for Tiki 7 or 8 - it's well overdue thraxisp: Is there a way to allow only the creating user (or admin) to edit the information they added? For example, let the user edit their UserTracker information without everyone else seeing it? PhilBack_: Well, there isn't much like that in other CMS/Groupware.
@thraxisp yes thraxisp: PhilBack_: pointer please ***: conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki
rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: thraxisp: i think as long as there's a user selector field with option "1" it just does it - oh, and check "Item creator can modify his items?" in the tracker properties CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31019 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding language filter to the UI
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31020 10/branches/6.x/lib/ckeditor_tiki/tikilink_dialog.js: [FIX] wysiwyg: tikilink jslint, change "Link Text" label and remove utf8 BOM PhilBack_: jonnyb: found issue: config mess by the user behind my back. Thanks for the help. Works all right now. He messed a {$f_xx} in the wiki template... Rhaaa ***: olinuxx has joined #tikiwiki thraxisp: jonnyb: I have that, but I also don't want others in the group to be able to see the information in the tracker. ***: redflo has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: PhilBack_: nice one, that's what users are for :P
thraxisp: have you tried removing the relevant view permission for that group from the tracker? ***: conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) PhilBack_: @jonnyb: anyway, keep in touch for trackers ... :-) ***: Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) thraxisp: jonnyb: I did, but then I can't list the tracker to edit the item (message "You don't have permission to use this feature") CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31021 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] Adding an empty character to help default selection jonnyb: thraxisp: odd - you're admin? thraxisp: yes. Admin can see and edit everything. I want the user to be able to edit their own record but not see other user's records.
The user (group Registered) sees the error jonnyb: hmm, i thought that was possible - not done it myself though CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31023 10/branches/6.x/lib/ckeditor_tiki/tikilink_dialog.js: [FIX] wysiwyg: Fill tikilink "Link Text" with selection when creating a new link. PhilBack_: I cannot disable "User Messages" in Admin/Community. How comeS? ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: PhilBack_: you're right - looks like a bug
worked 2nd time when i clicked the little green arrow thraxisp: jonnyb: I'll play with it some more. (I need to create a sandbox on a local machine).
my more pressing problem is the CSS Menus. tw.o has the same problem. jonnyb: PhilBack_: looks like feature_messages appears twice in admin/community CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31024 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] admin community: feature_messages appeared twice in the same admin page, so you had to click both to make a change. Removed the 2nd one (and added some missing dependencies for the other prefs)
tikiwiki: Thanks PhilBack
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r31025 10/branches/6.x/lang/de/language.php: German translations done on i18n.tiki.org (1140 new translations and 100 translations updated!) Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3692 - - Text shows through CSS Menu in IE7 - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3692 PhilBack_: @jonnyb: ok, will look
I'd like to bridge calendars and trackers for registering people to events. How to do this ? Insert a TRACKER in the event description? I'd like to have this in the right margin as a module. jonnyb: PhilBack_: it's a common thing - been a holy grail for a long time (non-trivial to do properly) ***: ttrimm has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: PhilBack_: The only thing existing now is http://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerList#Tracker_as_calendar thraxisp: Another tracker question. Is there a way to update a tracker based on a wiki page without user input? I want to add an "i've paid" flag to a tracker and have it set when the user comes back from the payments page (e.g. PayPal). lphuberdeau: I don't think you can actually rely on that page hit alone
if you use tiki payments, you can attach a behavior to update the tracker when the payment is received
not that the behavior is written for trackers, but there is a better hook for that chealer: polom jonnyb: hi chealer thraxisp: I see that there can be a button to prefill a tracker, so I'm looking for a way to do that without the button. PhilBack_: @sylvieg: Ok, I'll do some code then/ lphuberdeau: the problem is that you rely on something that may not be true - unless you change the value from the actual payment confirmation, which comes from paypal IPN, there is no way you can be sure you're not marking a payment as paid that is not thraxisp: lphuberdeau: that was the plan. Right now it needs to be correlated by hand. lphuberdeau: not sure it's much harder to add a behavior than to fiddle around tracker prefilter thraxisp: lphuberdeau: thanks. I'll look into it some more this weekend. changi|away: polom ***: changi|away is now known as changi chealer: hi changi, jonnyb changi: chealer: hi CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31027 10/branches/6.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 6.1alpha1 chealer: changi: tu te fais à l'idée de ne pas avoir de 6.1 pour ta fête? :-) ***: ricks99 has left -: chealer had 1.7.1 for his 18th birthday. But didn't have to release it. changi: chealer: oui tant pis CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31028 10/branches/6.x/lang/ (47 files in 47 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 6.1alpha1
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31029 10/branches/6.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 6.1alpha1
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31030 10/branches/6.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 6.1alpha1 changi: for ricks : Changelog updated with 167 new commits (revision 31025 to 30768), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits. jonnyb: hi changi
i'm (as usual) just about to do a little commit :)
(and don't care about the changelog - it's alpha anyway) changi: you have exactly 2 minutes :) -: jonnyb loves the pressure changi: just let me know when it's done. jonnyb: ok, let's alpha! :) changi: i'm going to eat something CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31031 10/branches/6.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] newsletters: Quick fix for the newsletter CSS problem (where it would include all the css in the emails).
tikiwiki: Adding the possibility to have styles/yourtheme/newsletter.css (and one for option too) which will be minified and written into the mail if found (otherwise follows previous behaviour of including everything).
tikiwiki: Added fivealive/newsletter.css and fivealive/options/grape/newsletter.css for testing purposes (need more work pls).
tikiwiki: Made minify_css() in headerlib public. jonnyb: 2 minutes you said :P
eating good, i'm off for that too - bbl changi: ok CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31032 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-secdb_6.1_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 6.1alpha1 jonnyb: thanks changi CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31033 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] When running the parser with stripplugins, preserve the body which may contain valid data ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31034 10/trunk/ (81 files in 63 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30996 to 31032
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31035 10/tags/6.1alpha1/: [REL] Tagging release
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31036 10/branches/6.x/tiki-view_blog_post.php: [FIX]blog: permission denied if post not yet published
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31037 10/trunk/lib/ (7 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Wiki-parse content to strip out syntax ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: nite nite)
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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r31039 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php:
tikiwiki: PDO: avoid prepared queries when there are no binded parameters
tikiwiki: thanks lphuberdeau
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31040 10/branches/6.x/ (lib/blogs/bloglib.php tiki-view_blog_post.php): [FIX]blog: do not show prev next of non published blog post if no perm sylvieg: oops sorry did not see some release was on chealer: hi sylvieg. are you available to discuss the password options again? there was still unclear parts after your commit. changi: sylvieg: no prob, it was an alpha :) sylvieg: chealer: ??? probably not finished...
with you I should always say work in progress ;-) chealer: sylvieg: I'm talking about http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=30718&view=rev
in particular that really old option I think sylvieg: I sent a mail now .. did I forget to commit it
the same mail to the user and the admin .. work on progress chealer: sylvieg: what does it mean to re-validate a user? sylvieg: an admin must checj the button in tiki-adminusers.php chealer: sylvieg: what does that button do? sylvieg: the user can log-in again chealer: sylvieg: what else does it mean? unsucessful_logins has 'description' => tra('After a certain number of consecutive unsuccessfull login attempts, the user will receive a mail with instruction to validate his account. However the user can still log-in with his old password.'),
sylvieg: BTW, unsuccessful has a single "l" -: changi alpha is on SF.net
changi please test ***: mohrt has left sylvieg: chealer: no more idea how to improve the explanation chealer: sylvieg: do you know what the option does? sylvieg: this one? it doesn not invalidate the login chealer: sylvieg: yes. so what does it do? do you know what re-validating a user means, if it's not about making it temporarily impossible for the user to login? sylvieg: the first option - a user can still log-in with the olf password
the second it is impossible chealer: sylvieg: OK, but what does the first option do? sylvieg: I suppose it is for not high security site
where spam is tolerated
s/spam/login attack chealer: sylvieg: do you know what re-validating a user means, if it's not about making it temporarily impossible for the user to login? sylvieg: will not answer on this one - because it is ambigous
it does not mean the same if it is an admin or a user chealer: sylvieg: then what does it mean in this case? sylvieg: which case chealer: sylvieg: the old option we're talking about - unsuccessful_logins (Re-validate user by email after: x unsuccessful login attempts) sylvieg: it means the description .. see above
tra('After a certain number of consecutive unsuccessfull login attempts, the user will receive a mail with instruction to validate his account. However the user can still log-in with his old password.'), chealer: sylvieg: what does validating an account mean? ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki
redflo has left chealer: hi jonnyb. it seems we have an alpha1 jonnyb: super - something to test?
found them (on sf.net)
interesting (?) only about 1000 downloads for 6.0 chealer: jonnyb: I'm seeing about 4000 for the tar.gz, the tar.bz2 and the .zip jonnyb: just tested the gz - unpacked and installed fine
ah, it was just this month
6000 in all of 6.x ever
66% on windows ;)
20% in Germany
China #3 downloader chealer: jonnyb: interesting, but it could be people uploading via FTP jonnyb: 117 countries in total - good stats on sf these days chealer: it would be nice to have longer term stats showing the increase with yeats jonnyb: indeed - only goes back to feb this year afaisc - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/stats/timeline?dates=1995-12-03+to+2010-12-03 PhilBack_: great! jonnyb: 83,000 downloads in total (that's quite a lot) PhilBack_: see you l8r. jonnyb: let's hope 6.1 can break 1000 on one day (965 july 1st) ***: PhilBack_ is now known as PhilBack|away chealer: jonnyb: ah, hadn't found these. interesting
I didn't think about looking in Develop
sylvieg: about the new option, I already asked, but is there a mechanism so that admin accounts cannot be disabled? IOW, is a DOS forcing a recovery from the database possible if that feature is enabled? jonnyb: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=64258&ugn=tikiwiki is good too (wow, we're using 5GB a day - that's not cheap - thanks sourceforge) chealer: odd, it seems we had nothing particular on July 1st ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki chealer: bbl ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)
rlpowell has joined #tikiwiki rlpowell: A plugin should always have {foo()} as its start, right? With the ()? Or did that change recently? sylvieg: {foo() /} did not work last week in trunk rlpowell: Ah, apparently there's a short syntax now, that broke many many of my pages. -_-
We were relying on {foo} not doing anything, you see.
Now it's errors aaaaallll over the place. sylvieg: in trunk or 6? rlpowell: In trunk.
*Should* {foo bar} be treated as a plugin? sylvieg: yeh.. I am afraid lph change a lot of things rlpowell: Because if not, that's a bug, cus it is.
lph? sylvieg: lphuberdeau: rlpowell: Oh, that's a person. I thought maybe it was a dev initiative.
Do you think that should be treated as a plugin?
You personally, I mean.
sylvieg: ^^ sylvieg: I do not know .. I do not know the plugin grammar now in trunk
can you switch back to tiki6 rlpowell: Sure. How? :)
I'm not good with svn tags and such. sylvieg: svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/6.x rlpowell: Thanks. ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb) lphuberdeau: syntaxes are:
{PLUGIN(...)/}
{PLUGIN(...)}...{PLUGIN}
{plugin ...} rlpowell: lphuberdeau: That last one means that any use of {...} anywhere on any page will suddenly break.
Since it's been possible to freely use {...} before, that's really bad; it's going to break a lot of pages, and not just on my site.
And it breaks very loudly. lphuberdeau: been like that for a bit now
few versions rlpowell: Apparently not, since the 6.x branch doesn't have this problem. lphuberdeau: trunk does not change much to the syntax, only the parsing rlpowell: Apparently it does.
Beacuse I switch to 6.x and the problem went away. lphuberdeau: I guess you can write unit tests to isolate your case rlpowell: What's to isolate? {foo bar} doesn't cause an explosion in 6.x, and it does in trunk. lphuberdeau: that's a feature to me
well, not the exposion
explosion
but the parsing rlpowell: Except for the part where many thousands of previously extant pages break. It's not just me; any discussion of coding or mathematics will have the same problem.
Breaking tons of things to save you a few characters is not a feature. lphuberdeau: that syntax was introduced many versions ago rlpowell: Then why does it cause no trouble in 6.x ? lphuberdeau: difference in the way it's parsed, might be a bit looser
{foo bar} does not explode for me
merely mentions the plugin does not exist rlpowell: *sigh* Whatever. I'm out of trunk. There's a problem. Y'all should probably fix it, or people will just come back and yell later. lphuberdeau: wow, nice attitude rlpowell: Yes, and when you've got *dozens* of "plugin does not exist" on one page, when instead the text used to be "{foo bar}", there's a problem.
lphuberdeau: You're telling me that dozens of my webpages suddenly becoming unsuable is a *feature*, and *I* have the attitude problem? I'm inclined to disagree.
Sorry, but I've been running tiki for ... what, 6 years now?, and every time I update something explodes. It makes me cranky. My apologies if I went too far. lphuberdeau: I don't like your tone. It's not like I intentionally break stuff. rlpowell: You told me that my problem was a feature; that sounded to me like "I don't care if it's broken for you, fuck off.". If that's not how you meant it, again, my apologies.
03-14:33 < Broca> ro do bo canda'a ro ko bo cande .e ca ta'a ro do bo cande -- example page, for what it's worth. In trunk, about half the text is replaced with "plugin not found", and the actual text is eaten.
Erm.
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section:+Miscellaneous+Notes+And+To-Dos -- *that*'s the example page. Sorry. CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31041 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: translate also the description rlpowell: In general, I don't think a single character should ever indicate any thing in any wiki syntax; it makes it too hard to just write normal text without thinking about markup. But that's a seperate discussion, I suppose.
(that is, it is fairly common for people to want to put things in (...) or [...] or {...}, so none of them should cause surprising things to happen) lphuberdeau: well, it improves readability a lot rlpowell: Only if you know it's going to happen in advance.
When you have a lot of users that aren't wiki experts, who just want to enter some text, it causes problems. lphuberdeau: but initially, the goal of the short syntax was to remove all the special handling in the parser
which used that precise syntax
difference now is that it reports the plugin missing of just writing back the syntax
svn up CIA-79: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31042 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Reverting back to previous behavior or indicating missing plugin by writing back the syntax rlpowell: lphuberdeau: Well, it certainly would be easy to change that last part. I had thought that it was a syntax change, not just an alerting change. lphuberdeau: and it is rlpowell: What? lphuberdeau: changed rlpowell: Which? lphuberdeau: the reporting rlpowell: Ah, OK. Thanks. I'm sorry again for my comments earlier; I thought you were saying something different than you actually were. lphuberdeau: I just hate reports saying "it's broken" rlpowell: Fair enough. lphuberdeau: especially when I spent dozens of hours fixing issues and it took 4 weeks for this detail to come up, hearing I broke everything is not really fun