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| jonnyb | (i thought it was going to be LDC - anyway, me too) | [00:03] |
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| luciash | re-polom | [00:29] |
| Tiki|bot | Info: Tiki 6.1 Beta 1 Now Available - http://info.tiki.org/article128-Tiki-6-1-Beta-1-Now-Available | [00:42] |
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| luciash | luciash needs some coffee, brb | [00:49] |
| fabricius | fabricius is not allowed to drink coffee at night time anymore | [00:53] |
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| luciash | re :) | [01:03] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r31288 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: [ENH] CSS: it is now possible to style the wiki pagination (the one when using ...page... syntax) and style it differently depending on its position | [02:45] |
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| luciash | that preferences search takes ages on my localhost :-p
which admin panel is the max results set for listings ? | [03:20] |
| fabricius | don´t know
say | [03:21] |
| luciash | finally some result came here ;)
but it's not among them lets check lookandfeel panel (searched for "max") yep, it is there... strange the preference search didn't find the maxRecords preference name | [03:22] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r31289 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: [MOD] Wiki page pagination: use style="text-align: center" instead of deprecated align="center" attribute for the wiki pagination
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r31290 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: [FIX] Wiki page pagination: little consistency fix to use the same tr string in the top position of the pagination as in the bottom | [03:32] |
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| luciash | the add page to structure doesn't work; instead just opens the page for editing | [03:59] |
| fabricius | I have a look at language.php
luciash: when I want to commit some translation, would you either recommend to commit short pieces and do it more often, or to translate first larger bits and than commit? | [04:01] |
| luciash | commit often | [04:02] |
| fabricius | 3 rules, yes
so even only a some minutes work for only some string would be fine nice so | [04:03] |
| luciash | i think so, because if you wait it can happen someone else translates via i18n.t.o and you'll get out of sync | [04:04] |
| fabricius | when I look at the commits in the svn list I see oftenenough justchanges of 1 or two lines | [04:04] |
| luciash | it is easier to debug and resolve conflicts | [04:05] |
| fabricius | I am mostly looking for that stuff, that is not possible in i18n
but right ... better often small bits - its a different way of thinking | [04:05] |
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| inspire | hello people. | [04:17] |
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| Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3703 - - add page to structure button regression - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3703
Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3704 - - usability issue: textareas misplaced on dev.t.o in Opera - cannot add details to bugreports - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3704 | [04:18] |
| inspire | Is anyone here a Tiki guru? I really need help if anyone is available
:( !help | [04:18] |
| honeygirl | help [<plugin>] [<command>] | [04:20] |
| Tiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot . | [04:20] |
| fabricius | I´d say the gurus are afk or sleeping | [04:21] |
| inspire | bummer. I'm stumped | [04:21] |
| fabricius | what´s the problem? if it´s not such a major thing, perhabs I can help
heading off soon, but still there luciash: still there? | [04:21] |
| inspire | Hmm.. thanks! I just moved Tiki to a new hosting space and anm getting this message now when I try to upload "Upload was not successful: The file you are trying upload was only partially uploaded" | [04:22] |
| luciash | fabricius: yep | [04:22] |
| inspire | nothing will upload anymore
(in file galleries) any ideas? | [04:22] |
| fabricius | so your tiki is running well so far?
despite that fault? | [04:23] |
| inspire | Have been using for over a year and has been great. Just when we moved away from, and then back to old host | [04:23] |
| luciash | inspire: check your upload limit, php execution time limit or switch from database storage to filesystem | [04:23] |
| inspire | luciash I am embarassed to say that I don't even know how to do that | [04:24] |
| luciash | (if you use store files in database) | [04:24] |
| inspire | yes we do store in the database | [04:24] |
| fabricius | filesystem would be recommended anyway I guess - especially, when the database size is limited | [04:24] |
| inspire | ok.. i'll check in PHP admin. Which setting am I looking at? | [04:24] |
| luciash | inspire: go to the File Galleries admin panel and try to switch to a directory storage
you'll need to move your files from db to filesystem storage too i guess | [04:25] |
| fabricius | yes and then the wiki-admin panel and elsewhere, but be careful - you should check out in a demo installation ... I would do so | [04:26] |
| inspire | i tried that too. Same message | [04:26] |
| fabricius | did you check the info.php? | [04:26] |
| luciash | hmm, then check your phpinfo what does the server report about the limits | [04:26] |
| fabricius | lol, same idea | [04:27] |
| luciash | if they're low you're out of luck other than asking the server admins to increase it | [04:27] |
| inspire | timeout 60 seconds. File limit 35mb | [04:27] |
| fabricius | or possibly with php.ini | [04:28] |
| luciash | inspire: you store in which folder now ? does the server have rights to write files there ? | [04:28] |
| inspire | if I choose a directory path say, "materials", create that, give full write privileges... and tiki is stored in the home/portal folder should the path set be simply "materials", or "/materials", or portal/materials?
yes write privileges are all good | [04:31] |
| luciash | if the materials is in home/portal, then the path should be materials/
if it is in home/materials, then ../materials/ | [04:31] |
| inspire | sweet. let me see if that changes the error message. I will set 777 rights to test | [04:33] |
| fabricius | I´d say it would be best to store files out of the tiki-root-folder, not make updates complicated
if the files are stored "outside" it should be easy to update with clean installs | [04:33] |
| inspire | yes same message regardless of whether it was attempting to post to directory or database. Weird | [04:34] |
| fabricius | if the files are stored "inside" all files have to be saved / removed and returned | [04:35] |
| inspire | i wonder if I should update Tiki and see if that fixes it? | [04:35] |
| fabricius | I´d advise to make a second installation with a copy of the database | [04:36] |
| inspire | Yes that's a great idea actually. | [04:36] |
| fabricius | solve the problem there, becaus in the meantime - while testing and changing things - you´d not interfere your running site | [04:37] |
| inspire | thanks for the ideas. So weird. Was fine until moved it and then moved back.
thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a go. | [04:37] |
| fabricius | see yu later
you | [04:37] |
| inspire | thanks fabricius | [04:39] |
| luciash | sorry, out of ideas | [04:40] |
| fabricius | didn´t help so much yet ... you´re welcome | [04:40] |
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| fabricius | bye, go to get a bit of a sleep now | [06:48] |
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| yonixxx | morning | [06:52] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Can't change admin password. - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39793 | [07:34] |
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| Ma1 | Good morning | [08:39] |
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| tikiwiki: 03killianebel * r31292 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Wiki pages can now be created, edited and deleted from a webdav client (like cadaver) | [09:19] | |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Installation on a web domain - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39794 | [09:26] |
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| yonixxx | hi, using right2left (rtl) is changing rules. i have replaced text with a picture for a tw menu. text-indent to hide the text is not working in this case (no matter if i use positive or negative i still see part of the text). The only trick i found is "font-size:0px" which is very dirty. Any ideas here ? | [09:47] |
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| PhilBack|afk | doc.t.w.o. seems down
How is i18n.t.o working? I registerd, now need some kind of access for translations... | [10:43] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | PhilBack|afk: what is your username on i18n.t.o? | [10:49] |
| PhilBack|afk | philippeback | [10:49] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | PhilBack|afk: I have added your user to the admin group
PhilBack|afk: now you can use Interactive Translation there | [10:50] |
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| PhilBack | thx
kind of you | [10:52] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | PhilBack: you are welcome :) | [10:54] |
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| rodrigo_sampaio | anyone using "session lifetime" (admin -> performance -> session) option? just checking if it works as I never tried it | [11:35] |
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| luciash | polom | [12:20] |
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| chibaguy | polom
doc.t.o seems to be down again | [12:40] |
| luciash | hi gary | [12:46] |
| chibaguy | hi luciash | [12:47] |
| luciash | ssh works
ping changi|afk | [12:48] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r31293 10/trunk/doc/unstable.version: [MOD] latest unstable version | [12:59] |
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| luciash | rodrigo_sampaio: got my mail about the external bug fix ? | [13:03] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | luciash: I saw you send it, but I haven't read it yet :) | [13:04] |
| luciash | ok :) | [13:04] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r31294 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: [MOD] Wiki page pagination: use .center class of the layout.css instead of inline style="text-align: center" attribute for the wiki pagination | [13:07] |
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| ricks99 | hi all :-) | [13:24] |
| yonixxx | hi all too :) i don;t know if it is the same for everybody but, yesterday i have install a tw6.1 and since then i have dozens of SPAMmers trying to register. there is others that suffer from that ? | [13:27] |
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| ricks99 | another tracker question from rick...
i have a tracker with the "1 iterm per user/ip" option enabled... how, using the TRACKER plugin, can i have message for users who have already completed the form? | [13:54] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Default number of rows for comment box - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=39797 | [14:00] |
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| lphuberdeau | ricks99, you do have a lot of tracker questions - I don't have any answers about them | [14:07] |
| ricks99 | how about this one... when using a EMAIL option for a tracker and i careate a custom email template, how can I specifiy tracker fields to be included in the email? | [14:10] |
| i can't seem to ge the EMAIL option to work at all... even *without* a custom tpl :( | [14:15] | |
| lphuberdeau | from the moment your question contains trackers, it gets to redirected to /dev/null in my brain, which contains just as much information on that topic | [14:17] |
| ricks99 | :(
ah... think i found it. error in the docs... | [14:19] |
| sylvieg | ricks99: was working 4 months ago last time I tested - mail to creator and validator | [14:22] |
| ricks99 | yes working fine. docs were misleading. | [14:23] |
| sylvieg | (doc written by non English speaker ;-) ) | [14:23] |
| ricks99 | how can i specify which fields to have in my email tpl? just use {$f_1} ? | [14:23] |
| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: thx for the explanation on the devel list - my question is why do yu send the perms description to lucene
ex: +((allowed_groups:tokenrpqtevrqrpatuytyuxdxwwwpbtaafzvt) (allowed_groups:tokenvqzucfytrvaeewccbtqwwyacuevybdrf)) +(job) | [14:25] |
| lphuberdeau | to filter the documents WYSIWYCA, and maintain pagination | [14:25] |
| sylvieg | so I missed something.. the perms are recorded in the lucene index
? | [14:25] |
| lphuberdeau | yes
said that like 3 times | [14:26] |
| sylvieg | sorry I miss this one
I hope it will not slow down too much lucene with my test - the less is in lucene database the better | [14:26] |
| ricks99 | @sylvieg: for the tracker with custom email tpl, i have foo.tpl in my templates/styles/mystyle/mail/foo.tpl but tiki doesnt seem to use it. i get a blank email "tracker was modified" as subject line | [14:28] |
| sylvieg | and what will happens with search engine that does not have a perm mechanism inside? | [14:28] |
| lphuberdeau | well, it's either we do it once when building the index or do it every time when listing documents
lucene does not have a perm engine, unified search converts the whole thing to full text search most fields are not stored in the index, which reduces the index size it does something very similar with categories same internal mechanism in fact | [14:28] |
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| sylvieg | so does it mean that if I change a perm on a apge - I have to reindex the page? | [14:30] |
| lphuberdeau | yes | [14:30] |
| sylvieg | :-( | [14:30] |
| lphuberdeau | well, for listings to be reflected
the page itself still verifies the live permissions | [14:30] |
| sylvieg | did you add all the calls to update the index of a page when changing perm? | [14:31] |
| lphuberdeau | not yet
there is also more to it, when you change category permissions, you also need to re-index bunch of things | [14:31] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg feels security hole | [14:32] |
| lphuberdeau | but that's only for incremental update, the best possible set-up remains periodic re-indexing (like every 15 minutes), even if it implies having a stale index for a bit
it's not a security hole, it's a temporary flaw in WYSIWYCA | [14:32] |
| sylvieg | when I did my lucene test - the whole indexation was already 30mn | [14:34] |
| lphuberdeau | depends on the data size | [14:34] |
| sylvieg | btw did you use a tool to look inside the licene index | [14:34] |
| lphuberdeau | yes | [14:35] |
| sylvieg | I think there is soem java tools | [14:35] |
| lphuberdeau | luke works well
terrible UI, but still helps in debugging | [14:35] |
| ricks99 | frak! no matter what i do, i cannot get tiki 6 to use my specified email.tpl in a tracker | [14:37] |
| sylvieg | ricks99: will ask Andre for a running example | [14:37] |
| ricks99 | d'oh! cleared cache.
now works! thank you sylvieg :-) | [14:39] |
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| ricks99 | Tik trackers work perfectly... once you know what you're doing. | [14:42] |
| sylvieg | the working example
email="info@xxx.com|24|demandeEnvoyee.tpl" | [14:43] |
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| ricks99 | yes, but that's not what is on doc. hence my confusion.
ricks99 will be updating doc page shortly | [14:44] |
| sylvieg | and the tpl is in tempaltes/styles/xxx/mail/demandeEnvoyee.tpl | [14:45] |
| ricks99 | yup. got it working now | [14:45] |
| sylvieg | sorry templates | [14:45] |
| ricks99 | hmm.. .but my {$f_1} info is not getting included in the mail tpl | [14:47] |
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| RavenC | I have an oddity (ok,really the site) ..... When I amd logged in as admin, in tiki-admin.php, I click on one of the icons.. lets say look and feel: sometimes nothing happens. If I click it again, it brings it up. Other times I click on something else, and it brings up what I clicked originally. This just happened when trying to attempt to load a profile. Any thoughts?
oh yeah... polom! :) this is my first attempt on a hosted server | [14:48] |
| lphuberdeau | ravenc, clear tiki cache and your browser's cache | [14:49] |
| RavenC | I also notice that I get this error on the bottom of the page frequently: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 516111312 bytes) in Unknown on line 0 | [14:49] |
| lphuberdeau | if the problem persists, disable AJAX
about the memory exhaust, it might be minify working too hard, try setting the javascript CDN to google | [14:50] |
| RavenC | strangely, all of the cached says o files / o Kb | [14:51] |
| lphuberdeau | make sure those folders are writeable | [14:52] |
| RavenC | 775 ?
errrr... 755 ? | [14:52] |
| Tiki|bot | Info: Tiki 6.1 Beta 1 est maintenant disponible - http://info.tiki.org/article129-Tiki-6-1-Beta-1-est-maintenant-disponible | [14:52] |
| lphuberdeau | that could cause tiki to work hard if it can't save it's caches
depends on the owner/group | [14:52] |
| RavenC | ok... something strange for certain. I will FTP in and take a look. Thanks for the help | [14:53] |
| lphuberdeau | 777 always works, but I'm the world's worst sysadmin | [14:53] |
| ricks99 | ping sylvieg: is it possible to specify field values to include in my custom tracker email? | [14:53] |
| RavenC | yeah, I am going to default everything to 777 just to make sure (for now) | [14:56] |
| lphuberdeau | well, not everything, please, just the folders that need to be writeable
temp/cache and temp/public for normal operations | [14:57] |
| RavenC | hehehe... that is what I meant, sorry | [14:58] |
| lphuberdeau | well, temp too actually | [14:58] |
| RavenC | ok, changed the dirs that were listed under tiki caches to 777. Disabled Ajax. The menu items list now when clicked, fatal error still persists | [15:07] |
| ricks99 | how much php memory do u have? | [15:07] |
| RavenC | http://www.ravenc.com/phpinfo.php
512M ? (memory_limit | [15:08] |
| ricks99 | should b plenty | [15:09] |
| RavenC | to think the Windows install locally was SO much easier! lol
anyone want to come in and take a look? Have guest admin..... | [15:09] |
| lphuberdeau | the problem persists after changing the permissions? | [15:10] |
| ricks99 | Are you using a shared web host? I've had issues with some in the past. They will overwrite your specified php memory amount with a much lower | [15:10] |
| RavenC | this is using Inmotion Hosting.... | [15:10] |
| lphuberdeau | ricks99: no amount of memory will do if tiki can't cache certain things | [15:10] |
| RavenC | yeah, after changing the perms on the directories, same thing | [15:11] |
| lphuberdeau | does the admin panel report content in those folders? | [15:11] |
| ricks99 | The installer will fail if the needed directories are not writable. i assume installation went fine? | [15:12] |
| sylvieg | ricks99: so far I know - no | [15:12] |
| RavenC | yes. They had 5.2 ( ? ) on Fantastico. I installed using that and then did an overwrite for 6 | [15:12] |
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| lphuberdeau | I have seen cases where the check fails and the directories were not writeable before | [15:13] |
| RavenC | temp/public is empty | [15:13] |
| lphuberdeau | that might be normal if minify is off | [15:13] |
| RavenC | minify is off | [15:14] |
| lphuberdeau | so that thing taking too much memory is something else | [15:14] |
| RavenC | temp/cache has 11 files
ok | [15:14] |
| chealer | something's wrong on info. I don't see any edit button on articles even as admin | [15:23] |
| RavenC | Ricks, would you suggest to nuke the whole thing and stay with 5.xx as per the Fantastico installer? | [15:24] |
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| RavenC | my "self install" was a miserable failure
RavenC is thinking about hosting it on home server with FiOS ..... | [15:25] |
| jonnyb | polom
what's FiOS? | [15:26] |
| RavenC | fiber internet connex
polom johnnyb | [15:27] |
| lphuberdeau | sylvieg: why bother providing the relevance as part of the resultset? it's a measure that only has meaning within the engine | [15:29] |
| sylvieg | because people want to see how far .... and it is optional in any case | [15:30] |
| chealer | nevermind | [15:32] |
| RavenC | well... that answered that! Nuked it all. Had Fantastico install the 5.2 .... same fatal error listed. -1 for hosting co. | [15:35] |
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| sylvieg | sylvieg trying to index with the new search unified my test database - the server is dead - was not dead with my lucene index test :-( | [15:40] |
| lphuberdeau | I did say nothing is optimized right? | [15:42] |
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| GillesMM | is multi tiki yet supported ?
hello all | [15:47] |
| lphuberdeau | supported is a complex word, but the code is still in there | [15:47] |
| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: I already explained .. I did a prototype - very simple - customer took too long to decide - they ask me to finish the day of your first commit ... myn implementation was very simple and easily switcheable with tiki search | [15:48] |
| lphuberdeau | I know that | [15:48] |
| sylvieg | nad now I do not know what to do .. finish my hack with no commit - or try to use the energy to help the unified search
... | [15:48] |
| lphuberdeau | I think there is a very obvious answer to this question | [15:49] |
| sylvieg | I will ned to negociate a report because there are too many things to do in the unified
it is not obvious for me what is the answer? yopur approach is very ambitoius | [15:49] |
| GillesMM | lphuberdeau: I don't find doc about multitiki on doc site | [15:49] |
| lphuberdeau | gilesmm, I don't use multitiki, but I know the code is still there | [15:50] |
| sylvieg | http://doc.tiki.org/MultiTiki
I use it - and it is working so far I know in 6 | [15:50] |
| GillesMM | ok thanks sylvieg and lphuberdeau
:) | [15:51] |
| lphuberdeau | well, forking functionality will cause trouble down the line, it's not like we've never heard this story before | [15:51] |
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| lphuberdeau | sylvieg: your project has very specific objectives, I don't have all of those and will focus on my objectives, which are stated on the dev page - the global search is not the most important piece of the puzzle to me | [15:57] |
| thraxisp | Is it possible for a {TRACKERLIST} to join information from a a tracker and the UserTracker? That is, tracker x has the userid in it, and I want the matching email from the User Tracker. | [16:00] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31295 10/trunk/lib/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Refactor index invalidation to accept arbitrary queries, like invalidate everything from a category for example | [16:20] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Categories - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39799 | [16:26] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31296 10/branches/6.x/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] wysiwyg: tikilink dialog - Finally a good clean fix for cross browser text selection in ckeditor (i hope - thanks to Nielsdv on cksource.com/forums) | [16:51] |
| tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31297 10/branches/6.x/ (tiki-download_file.php tiki-list_file_gallery.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Rollback r31200 (was fgals: Make the contents of galleries that are not "visible" also not visible to non-admin users) tikiwiki: Revert to previous behaviour where "hidden" fgals are just not listed in the parent gal, although the contents can be listed and downloaded according to perms (thanks Luci and all for the pointers) | [16:57] | |
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| lphuberdeau | lphuberdeau tests indexing on a doc.t.o db... there are way too many notices in the code | [17:19] |
| ricks99 | a good search for doc.t.o... my dream comes true | [17:20] |
| lphuberdeau | doc.t.o is one of the best stress tests you can use... if something can be done wrong in a page, it's somewhere in there | [17:21] |
| ricks99 | y. great way to catch regressions | [17:22] |
| lphuberdeau | I have a dozen notices fixes locally already
careless code award goes to plugin backlinks so far | [17:22] |
| ricks99 | ping jonnyb | [17:32] |
| jonnyb | pong ricks99 | [17:33] |
| ricks99 | testing out the 'use html in menu option' on info.t.o......
i enabled the option.... added <img src='..... ' /> to the DOWNLOAD menu option.... but nada it does *not* appear in the preview menu, real menu, or the Menu Options table on tiki-admin_menu.... but.... if I *edit* the option, I see the <img src.... ideas? | [17:33] |
| jonnyb | 1 mo ricks99 | [17:37] |
| ricks99 | no problem | [17:37] |
| lphuberdeau | good point so far: memory usage is relatively stable when indexing wiki pages | [17:40] |
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| RavenC | update: Nuked everything on hosting company. read where Fantastico isn't so fantastic and tried manual FTP upload, set directory perms, and ran installer. install showed 256MB from php. Installed 6.o without a glitch. Thanks for your patience and assistance!! | [18:03] |
| jonnyb | hi ricks99 - re | [18:08] |
| ricks99 | hi jonnyb | [18:10] |
| jonnyb | it's the other way round - unchecked is the current unescaped rendering, checked escapes it | [18:10] |
| ricks99 | oh. So you DISABLE the option to ALLOW html? | [18:11] |
| jonnyb | disabled is default
(unchecked) depends what you mean by "allow" | [18:11] |
| ricks99 | ok. so the label should be changed to "BLOCK HTML FROM MENU OPTIONS" ? | [18:12] |
| jonnyb | the pref is display_html_something_or_other | [18:12] |
| ricks99 | right. i want to use html in the display
do i enable or disable the option? | [18:12] |
| jonnyb | disable
which is the default, as seen in tiki since whenever | [18:12] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 thinks it is counter-intuitive that ENABLING an option DISABLES a feature | [18:13] |
| jonnyb | did i do it wrong?
(i thought chealer was going to do it) | [18:13] |
| ricks99 | right now, the label (which i edited) says "Allow html in menu options"
but this is wrong, correct? | [18:14] |
| jonnyb | i reckon so | [18:14] |
| ricks99 | it should be "block/strip/ignore html in menu options" | [18:14] |
| jonnyb | it makes and html tags you enter appear as escaped text on the menu (it's all html really :P ) | [18:15] |
| ricks99 | an end-user has no idea what "escaping"is. | [18:15] |
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| jonnyb | indeed | [18:15] |
| ricks99 | i want to have <img .... > in my menu option
thats all the option should be DISABLED, yes? | [18:15] |
| jonnyb | yup
if you want the image to show | [18:15] |
| ricks99 | ok. so i need to change the label to "Ignore HTML in menu options" (with the defualt = N (that is, do not ignore it -- show it)
got it now. i think i misunderstood originally | [18:16] |
| jonnyb | well, it doesn't ignore it
it shows it (as html markup) | [18:16] |
| ricks99 | ignore = do not render the HTML that the user epects
* expects if i put <img.... > i expect to see a picture to me, tiki ignored/stripped/stopped what i expected | [18:17] |
| jonnyb | but it also correctly encodes it so it validates - with the pref off (the old way) you have to do the escaping yourself to be valid
so if you enter "terms & conditions" your page is no longer valid - it should be "terms & conditions" | [18:17] |
| ricks99 | "escaping"?
that's just an html entity? or do u mean i need to type things like /"my text in quotes/" ricks99 confused | [18:18] |
| jonnyb | escaping/encoding is similar in this context
if you want a quote to appear in the menu you need to use the html entity for it - " | [18:19] |
| ricks99 | hm.. i turned off/disabled the option that you added, but my image stil doesnt appear in the menu option | [18:19] |
| jonnyb | oh? worked for me ok
on sections and options | [18:20] |
| ricks99 | ok. we need to add a note on the admin_menu_options page that states" if using html, all enties must be properly encoded" | [18:20] |
| jonnyb | yes please | [18:20] |
| ricks99 | am trying to add to a section0 on info.t.o | [18:21] |
| jonnyb | so having it checked is the easy/safe way to use them | [18:21] |
| ricks99 | (the DOWNLOAD option) | [18:21] |
| jonnyb | has it been updated? (svn) | [18:21] |
| ricks99 | ok. i got it now
nvr mind working as desgined ricks99 need sto change the menu label however | [18:21] |
| jonnyb | yes, looks like it | [18:22] |
| ricks99 | tx for the clarification | [18:22] |
| jonnyb | sorry for the obfuscation :) | [18:22] |
| ricks99: still no image for me :( | [18:28] | |
| ricks99 | info?
i see it r u looking at a cached page? | [18:28] |
| jonnyb | sorry, thought you said doc | [18:28] |
| ricks99 | ah...
nah.. .who needs docs when i have u on irc? | [18:28] |
| jonnyb | ooh, unusually high traffic sign
:D i want to add a way to customise the simple_error easily | [18:28] |
| ricks99 | +100 | [18:29] |
| jonnyb | was thinking of looking for an html file in the style dir and using that with the login box in there somehow
something like "closed.html" | [18:29] |
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| jonnyb | nope - can't get in... | [18:30] |
| ricks99 | can i add html coding to the "message to display when traffic" field too?
refresh. do u see the link to tiki.org/Home as a link now? | [18:30] |
| jonnyb | info still "busy" | [18:33] |
| ricks99 | hm... it looses all he html coding :( | [18:35] |
| jonnyb | odd - where are you now? | [18:36] |
| ricks99 | tiki-admin.php?page=general Navigation tab
Message to display | [18:38] |
| jonnyb | which site? | [18:38] |
| ricks99 | info | [18:38] |
| jonnyb | ok, i'm in - i see the little image :) | [18:40] |
| ricks99 | k. but when its busy, im trying to add html coding to the message | [18:40] |
| jonnyb | oh right - yes, that probably gets filtered out | [18:41] |
| ricks99 | even if the option is disabled?
ricks99 is now very confused | [18:41] |
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| jonnyb | me confused too - which option? which message? | [18:45] |
| ricks99 | the message that displays if the site is too busy | [18:45] |
| jonnyb | yes... and which option? | [18:46] |
| ricks99 | Message to display if site is to busy
I thought I would be able to include <b>message</b> but apparently not? | [18:46] |
| jonnyb | almost certainly filtered | [18:47] |
| lphuberdeau | Out of memory (allocated 594018304) (tried to allocate 367521862 bytes) ... that does look like a huge chunk of memory to allocate | [18:49] |
| ricks99 | even if the "allow html option" is disabled ? | [18:49] |
| jonnyb | the menu option one i put in yesterday? | [18:49] |
| ricks99 | y | [18:50] |
| jonnyb | it only affects menu options | [18:50] |
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| ricks99 | ah..
ok. | [18:50] |
| lphuberdeau | hmmm.. lots of our documentation takes images straight from fck's wiki... really not a nice thing to do | [18:59] |
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| jonnyb | lphuberdeau: coo, no - that's naughty | [19:11] |
| lphuberdeau | hmmm... Changelog 1.9.8 is one big page on doc.t.o... wonder what value it really brings | [19:13] |
| jonnyb | :) | [19:13] |
| lphuberdeau | lphuberdeau thinks about putting a hard limit on what I'm ready to cope with when indexing | [19:14] |
| jonnyb | limits are good but real people don't like them, sadly | [19:22] |
| lphuberdeau | yeah, well people don't like reality
I wish I could fly | [19:30] |
| jonnyb | you can't? | [19:30] |
| lphuberdeau | I need additional support to do it
planes and stuff | [19:30] |
| jonnyb | they usually work for me | [19:31] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31298 10/trunk/lib/ (22 files in 9 dirs): [FIX] Few notices all around | [19:37] |
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| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31299 10/trunk/lib/core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Reset the internal caches when they become too big | [19:48] |
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| inspire | hey guys! Hope you are all excellent. Hey, I am trying to install Tiki but have no idea how to run the setup.sh file to set permissions automatically. Can someone please help?
I know this is a shell command, but once it is up via ftp, how do you run it? | [23:43] |
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| inspire | :-? | [23:44] |
| lphuberdeau | can't via ftp
you need shell access | [23:44] |
| inspire | how do I get shell access? | [23:44] |
| lphuberdeau | not all providers allow it, does yours allow it? | [23:45] |
| inspire | i just looked it cpanel and it seems to.
how do I run it though? I have been on this so long I would be happy just to manually set permissions :-( | [23:46] |
| lphuberdeau | if you access the site, tiki will tell you which permissions to change | [23:48] |
| inspire | i have looked at hundreds of pages but none just tell you wich folders need to be set as what | [23:50] |
| lphuberdeau | tiki will detect it and tell you | [23:50] |
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| inspire | lphuberdeau. but it doesn't tell me anything | [23:56] |
| lphuberdeau | what does it do? | [23:56] |
| inspire | Tiki Installer cannot proceed | [23:58] |
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| inspire | then says either run setup.sh (which i don't know how to do) or to set directory permissions to 777, but doesn't say which ones
pity there is no "idiots guide to setting up tiki" | [23:59] |
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