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[08:29] <coaboa> good morning tikiverse
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[08:54] <talin> hello
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[09:02] <talin> !help
[09:02] <honeygirl> help [<plugin>] [<command>]
[09:02] <talin> honeygirl? what a nice name
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[09:24] <brankom> Can anyone tell off the top of the head if there are issues with TikiWiki and very long-title pages?
[09:25] <brankom> (or pages involving non-latin letters)
[09:38] <talin> i am trying to make backups of my tikiwiki content...
[09:38] <talin> on the server, there is a postgresql db and a mysql db
[09:38] <talin> they both appear empty to me... but the wiki is full of information
[09:52] <talin> i have read the documentation at doc.tiki.org
[09:52] <talin> and i have run mysqldump just like it tells me to
[10:18] <luciash> polom polom polom
[10:19] <luciash> brankom: nope
[10:21] <luciash> talin: tiki supports mysql only recently - appearing empty while tiki runs fine and is full of content usually means you look on wrong db
[10:23] <talin> luciash: is there a config-file where i can see what the name of the DB is? something to indicate where i might find it
[10:24] <luciash> db/local.php
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[10:26] <talin> thanks, that's all i needed!
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[11:28] <luciash> what time is the floss talk with marclaporte on twit ?
[11:36] <luciash> i see, 9:30am (NYC time I suppose)
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[11:39] <chaser__> is there any way to render different menu itmes if they have the same position?
[11:42] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31674 10/branches/experimental/xajax_removal/ (23 files in 8 dirs): 
[11:42] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 31557 to 31673
[11:42] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: (codemirror external manually fixed, part 1)
[11:50] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31675 10/branches/experimental/coe_fgal_relook2/lib/: [SVN] fix external before branchupdate
[12:04] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31676 10/branches/experimental/coe_fgal_relook2/ (32 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 31516 to 31673
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[12:24] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31677 10/branches/experimental/coe_fgal_relook2/lib/codemirror_tiki/: [SVN] add codemirror_tiki
[12:28] <ricks99> hi all :-)
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[12:52] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31678 10/branches/experimental/xajax_removal/lib/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] importing codemirror_tiki from trunk
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[12:53] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31679 10/branches/experimental/xajax_removal/lib/codemirror_tiki/: [SVN] oops, no dir for codemirror
[12:55] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31680 10/branches/experimental/xajax_removal/lib/ (codemirror_tiki.php css/ js/): [SVN] removing...
[12:56] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31681 10/branches/experimental/xajax_removal/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] importing codemirror_tiki from trunk again
[12:59] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31682 10/branches/experimental/coe_fgal_relook2/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] importing codemirror_tiki from trunk again again
[13:06] <ricks99> um... UTF issues on doc? http://doc.tiki.org/%C3%A5%C2%BF%E2%80%A6%C3%A8%C2%A6%C2%81%C3%A6%C2%9D%C2%A1%C3%A4%C2%BB%C2%B6%C3%A4%C2%B8%C5%BD%C3%A8%C2%AE%C2%BE%C3%A7%C2%BD%C2%AE
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[13:20] <GillesMM> hi 
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[13:21] <MacLeod> Any ideas on why Tiki v6.1 won't change to my perspective's designated home page when I switch to that perspective via the module?
[13:22] <ricks99> Sorry. I don't have experience with perspectives. :(
[13:25] <MacLeod> No worries, I think I just figured it out.
[13:25] <GillesMM> the twist theme seems to have problems in 6.0 and 6.1 in administration panel I can't navigate inside admins 
[13:26] <MacLeod> You have to turn off group homepages in the perspective.
[13:26] <ricks99> Ah yes. Group Home wil override the perspectives. Group = Global
[13:27] <MacLeod> I was using group homepages for one group that wanted their own workspace in v3.1, but now I can use Perspectives instead.
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[13:44] <GillesMM> on multitikiwiki the tiki-install.php knows only the first database ....
[13:45] <GillesMM> how can I upgrade each base ? by running mysql < installer/schema/*.sql  on each base ? 
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[14:43] <luciash> ok, marclaporte live interview on twit.tv at 9:30am PDT (PST) means UTC-8 hrs, so 17:30 in UK and 18:30 in Europe (CET)
[14:43] <ricks99> yup. 3 hours from now
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[16:09] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31683 10/trunk/tiki-searchindex.php: [FIX] Display no results unless search arguments are provided
[16:13] <chealer> polom
[16:23] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31684 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.escape.php: [FIX] Tiki has not used latin1 in years
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[16:37] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r31685 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.escape.php: [FIX] Smarty escape modifier: don't claim copyright
[17:04] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r31686 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Identifier matching to use exact matches
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[17:29] <ricks99> Marc's interview on FLOSS is about to start
[17:30] <coaboa||away> marc is a pixel guru ;-)
[17:30] <USlacker> Marc  looks different in real life!
[17:30] <ricks99> http://info.tiki.org/article125
[17:30] <ricks99> Looks like he's in super slow--mo
[17:30] <USlacker> too clean shaven
[17:31] <ricks99> lol
[17:31] <coaboa||away> he has to switch his ISP
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[17:32] <ricks99> Is his bandwidth too snow covered?
[17:32] <ricks99> ;-)
[17:32] <luciash> seems to start classicaly :)
[17:32] <lphuberdeau> I have the same ISP, it should be fine
[17:33] <luciash> mic problems always ;)
[17:33] <coaboa> should use cable instead delivery boy
[17:33] <USlacker> this is awkward, huh?
[17:33] <ricks99> :(
[17:33] <USlacker> perhaps Mrc needs the Fez
[17:33] <ricks99> lol
[17:35] <ricks99> I've never watched Twit b4
[17:35] <USlacker> it is an excellent produciton
[17:35] <USlacker> there are many shows and I listen to 3-4 of them
[17:36] * ricks99 envisions a weekly tiki-cast one day in the future
[17:36] <USlacker> that would be cool.
[17:36] <coaboa> with some improved quality
[17:36] <coaboa> ;-)
[17:36] <ricks99> we finally got a tiki book. one step at a time :-)
[17:37] <coaboa> congrats to that by the way
[17:37] <ricks99> tx. still have not broken into the new york times bestseller list... yet
[17:38] <USlacker> if all 900,000 downloads bought a copy...
[17:38] <USlacker> I'll be bummed if this doesn't pan out
[17:39] <USlacker> we've been waiting since April
[17:39] <ricks99> now *that's* an idea
[17:39] <ricks99> i wish they would give a bit of background about tiki instead of the b.s.
[17:39] <ricks99> or at least the tiki.org URL
[17:40] * ricks99 hopes the server can handle it
[17:40] <USlacker> I thknk they add the intro in post production
[17:40] <ricks99> ah
[17:41] <USlacker> I'm surprised they didn't test with him yesterday
[17:41] <coaboa> me not ;-)
[17:42] <USlacker> this podcast network is *very* well produced
[17:42] <ricks99> y. i was going through some of the older archived ones. good range of topics
[17:43] <USlacker> I've been listening to FLOSS since the forst episode
[17:43] <USlacker> first
[17:44] <ricks99> he *looks* much better now at least
[17:44] <USlacker> at the beginning it was Chris Debona from Google
[17:44] <coaboa> y
[17:46] <ricks99> woo hoo :)
[17:46] <ricks99> marc should have put the tiki banner thing in the background
[17:46] <USlacker> what did he say?  Did the engineer screw it up?
[17:47] <USlacker> there is a logo back there
[17:47] <coaboa> sabotage
[17:47] <coaboa> ;-)
[17:47] <ricks99> damn joomla community!
[17:47] <coaboa> lol
[17:48] <ricks99> let's get this show on the road
[17:48] <ricks99> does focus look odd for marc's cam?
[17:49] <USlacker> I think it is simply low bandwidth
[17:54] <ricks99> browser-based content publishing system
[17:54] <coaboa> ;-)
[17:54] <USlacker> I need a tiki shirt
[17:55] <ricks99> me too
[17:55] <ricks99> one day i'll be at a tikifest
[17:55] <USlacker> anyone following the floss IRC?
[17:55] <coaboa> come to boston, I'll probably there
[17:55] <ricks99> y
[17:55] <coaboa> *be
[17:56] <ricks99> i am seriously thinking of going up there
[17:57] <coaboa> maybe me and my brother come over (he is a C++ coder and joins our team for tiki development from february)
[17:58] <coaboa> cool marc made him forgett the others
[17:58] <ricks99> anyone joining me in the twit irc room?
[18:00] * ricks99 thinks should talk-up tiki's community aspect -- no commericial backing, 100% community, etc
[18:01] <coaboa> y
[18:01] <ricks99> think it is ok if i "feed" some questions on the twit IRC?
[18:01] <ricks99> or conflict of interest?
[18:02] <coaboa> try 
[18:02] <coaboa> we want it to be used, I see no conflict in helping find the right questions
[18:03] <ricks99> that's me :-)
[18:03] <coaboa> go rick go
[18:03] <ricks99> those who cant code, market. thats me :-)
[18:06] <coaboa> selfsponsored
[18:06] <ricks99> community sponsered rules
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[18:11] <ricks99> is the cat our tiki mascot? :-)
[18:13] <coaboa> from now on..
[18:16] <ricks99> testing? what's that? ;-)
[18:16] <coaboa> lol
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[18:26] <coaboa> last man standing
[18:26] <ricks99> lol
[18:27] <USlacker> Marc was there before me.  What?!?
[18:27] <ricks99> how long have u been?
[18:27] <USlacker> and he's done 1000x as much as me
[18:27] <USlacker> Jan 2003 my site was installed
[18:28] <USlacker> only as a hobby
[18:28] <ricks99> ah
[18:28] <USlacker> v 1.3 or 1.4
[18:30] * ricks99 searches the tiki forums to find his very first post
[18:34] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r31687 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: 
[18:34] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: set "to" field when sending email warning admins about plugins pending
[18:34] <CIA-76> tikiwiki: approval
[18:37] <ricks99> pretty good. can't way to see the polished result
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[18:40] <daniam> Great job Marc, well done at http://live.twit.tv/
[18:42] <USlacker> ricks99 - they don't edit much so far as I can tell.  They record the intro after the fact so have to edit it in
[18:43] <ricks99> ah. when does the final get 'published'
[18:43] <USlacker> I expect the show out in a day or two
[18:45] <ricks99> so they're doing the intro now.
[18:46] <USlacker> tiki is the swiss army knife of CMS
[18:47] <USlacker> http://www.uselog.com/2007/04/giant-army-knife.html
[18:48] <luciash> re
[18:48] <luciash> re-focusing on "our" channel
[18:49] <ricks99> welcome back :-)
[18:49] <luciash> :)
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[18:51] <luciash> the guys laughing a lot
[18:52] <luciash> drunk lot of whiskey  i suppose ;)
[18:52] <luciash> or was it brandy ?
[18:52] <lphuberdeau> scotch
[18:53] <luciash> heheh
[18:53] <luciash> still listening their live recording via ustream :D
[18:54] <ricks99> y. me too.
[18:54] * ricks99 doesn't find him as funny as he thinks he is
[18:54] <luciash> yeah... drunk ppl always think like that :)
[18:58] * USlacker likes FLOSS but thinks the hosts can be a bit pompus
[19:12] * luciash lacks pompus in his dict
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[19:23] <coaboa> will the recording be uploaded to tv.tiki.org?
[19:27] <ricks99> y.
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[19:38] <coaboa> cool, cause my brother switched off because of sound issues and missed it.
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[21:08] <Tiki|bot>  Info: Tiki 5.4 Mise à jour - http://info.tiki.org/article135-Tiki-5-4-Mise-a-jour
[21:08] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: How to configure Feedblitz mailing/RSS system with Tiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39933
[21:08] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: "Use different URL as homepage" doesn't work - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39932
[21:08] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Change the font of list wiki pages - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39931
[21:08] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3724 - - Features -> Ajax cannot be activated  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3724
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[21:32] <Raevn> Hello All: Embarrassing question but... Do I unlock the TW installer before upgrading to the next level? Separately, I'm getting error messages that tell me I need to run installer again but I'm not sure if the problems are related. Finally, I'm upgrading via SimpleScripts on a BlueHost server. ~Thanks. 
[21:35] <lphuberdeau> unlocking the installer is to access it once the files are copied over, I don't know what simplescripts does
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[22:05] <Raevn> THANKS! SimpleScripts did (does?) the install for me on Bluehost (hosting provider) in addition to the upgrades. I'll keep the two issues separate unless I get more evidence. Also want to plug Rick's book - helpful right out of the box. 
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[23:17] <chaser__> is there any way to show to menu items when they have the same postion?
[23:17] <chaser__> *to show two
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